honeric01:


Is the question too hard to answer?

https://www.nairaland.com/1338941/crimes

Please pay special attention to the case of 30 suitcases of cash that were taken out.

Also remember Buhari headed the PTF, pray tell what did he do with all the billions?

Daresh:


https://www.nairaland.com/1338941/crimes

Please pay special attention to the case of 30 suitcases of cash that were taken out.

Also remember Buhari headed the PTF, pray tell what did he do with all the billions?

It's easy to believe anything when you do not have a mind of your own, please have a neutral mindset before you go through this thread to see the truth in the lies leveled against the General.

https://www.nairaland.com/1966616/n2.8m-missing-53-suitcases-saga/3#27467247

ollyboy009:

This is why it will take centuries for nigeria to meet up with the 2nd worlds not to talk of the first. A country whose youths follow "them say" instead of inculcating a change mentality and take their destiny to their hands. I am sure you cant evidently say anything abt those two personalities. How old are you by the way? SMH

And people like you dont know that we have other options besides old men who should be carrying their grandchildren. What exactly did they leave behind that they are so eager to go back to? I have my own opinion and don't need to follow anyone elses. Atiku and Buhari have nothing new to offer just the same old bullshit. Buhari will probably try to make us an Islamic state. And FYI, my opinion is mine, my vote is mine.

honeric01:


It's easy to believe anything when you do not have a mind of your own, please have a neutral mindset before you go through this thread to see the truth in the lies leveled against the General.

https://www.nairaland.com/1966616/n2.8m-missing-53-suitcases-saga/3#27467247

I see you are a staunch supporter. Thank God we all have one vote. The dear general should go home and rest.He is almost 80 years old.

Daresh:


And people like you dont know that we have other options besides old men who should be carrying their grandchildren. What exactly did they leave behind that they are so eager to go back to? I have my own opinion and don't need to follow anyone elses. Atiku and Buhari have nothing new to offer just the same old bullshit. Buhari will probably try to make us an Islamic state. And FYI, my opinion is mine, my vote is mine.

@the bolded.....let me guess.....mummy told you so abi?? you see why someone was asking how old you are.

Daresh:


I see you are a staunch supporter. Thank God we all have one vote. The dear general should go home and rest.He is almost 80 years old.

Now that your lies about him being a thief debunked, it's his age you are now on?

Hopefully you have learnt, stop peddling lies, you're setting yourself up for a great fall.

Daresh:


And people like you dont know that we have other options besides old men who should be carrying their grandchildren. What exactly did they leave behind that they are so eager to go back to? I have my own opinion and don't need to follow anyone elses. Atiku and Buhari have nothing new to offer just the same old bullshit. Buhari will probably try to make us an Islamic state. And FYI, my opinion is mine, my vote is mine.

SMH for you,and where are the young men that can do it better? the likes of your presido?, lets assume the briefcases and PTF are true as you are brainwashed (2.3million in 1983 wen you were yet to b born), what would you say abt the $20b in d Min. of petroleum unaccountable for under our presido's nose?, the $15m arms deal and the shame it has brought to the nation,indiscipline and massive corruption that decorates Jona's administration to mention bt just a few,do you call those good governance? thank God you dont own more than one vote!

ollyboy009:

SMH for you,and where are the young men that can do it better? the likes of your presido?, lets assume the briefcases and PTF are true as you are brainwashed (2.3million in 1983 wen you were yet to b born), what would you say abt the $20b in d Min. of petroleum unaccountable for under our presido's nose?, the $15m arms deal and the shame it has brought to the nation,indiscipline and massive corruption that decorates Jona's administration to mention bt just a few,do you call those good governance? thank God you dont own more than one vote!

I am not a Jonathan supporter. My argument is, can't we get a credible canditate? Must we recycle past leaders? So no one of over 170 million is credible to rule? Why should we have to use Buhari again? The guy has his own shady past. Them 2.3mil was a big deal. Yes thank God no one has more than 1 vote. And I was born b4 Buhari came into power, why should he rule me now over 30 years later?

honeric01:



Now that your lies about him being a thief debunked, it's his age you are now on?

Hopefully you have learnt, stop peddling lies, you're setting yourself up for a great fall.

The way you pour your venom into this na how much GMB dey pay you. I stand by my words that he is a theif. How can Obasanjo, the father of all thieves call someone honest and you chop it. Seriously?

phantom:


@the bolded.....let me guess.....mummy told you so abi?? you see why someone was asking how old you are.

No my mummy didnt tell me. She doesnt have that kind of time. I read. I read a lot. You should try it.

CFCfan:
The recent body language of Lagos State governor, Babatunde Fashola, suggests he wants nothing to do with being a running mate to either Buhari or Atiku. Instead, Fashola may likely seek a Senatorial nomination; and he is a sure bet to win both the Senatorial primary and the February general election.

However, if the APC loses the presidential election, I wouldn't mind a Senator Fashola becoming the APC presidential nominee for the 2019 election. By then, his combined 8 years as a governor, and 4 years as a Senator should be adequate experience needed to run for the highest office in the land.

Fashola is smart if he sticks to this plan. Obviously APC CANNOT defeat PDP in 2015.

He should be looking to defect to PDP to achieve this dream as APC would be disbanded in 2016 at the latest!

honeric01:


Unintelligent comment IMO.

Buhari is a thief because?

Because he stole power from a democratically elected government!

APC CAN NOT defeat PDP in 2015

Fashola should go to Senate

2019 is a very strategic year to run for President.

If Fashola runs with Buhari, his brand will die and his political judgement will come under question forever!

mikeansy:
APC CAN NOT defeat PDP in 2015

Fashola should go to Senate

2019 is a very strategic year to run for President.

If Fashola runs with Buhari, his brand will die and his political judgement will come under question forever!

You damn straight about that. Fashola is WAY too politically savvy to associate in any way with a known terrorist sponsor and religious fanatic with a taste for innocent blood.

JosephsDestiny:
Going to the Senate in 2015 and then coming out to contest the presidential election in 2019 may be possible but still an herculean task. The shortest route to the Presidency and the wisest political move by Fashola and the APC should be him serving as the Vice President with Gen. Buhari as President, that is if they win the 2015 election. Then will he be able to tender a credential that is superior to any other candidate in 2019 because he most certainly will be the de facto President for the 4 years Buhari will serve as President, considering the age and intellectual depth of Gen. Buhari. It's still a long shot though, but I believe Fashola would be a great President if given a chance. What is needed is for various interests and power blocs within the APC and beyond to contain and set aside their interests for the collective interest. All in all, it should be a case of putting forward your best 'hand and brain' and I think Buhari and Fashola fit perfectly into these category respectively.

It is my utmost desire to see a Buhari-Fashola presidential ticket come to fruition, but anyone who takes the advice of Baba for granted is really not doing himself any good. Much as I don't think he's the kind of leader we desire, Baba's got vast experience within and without the Nigerian politcosphere and his input is always a nourishment to wisdom.

So, I think the Progressives, most likely due to Baba's caution, will shop for another vice for Buhari while it won't be bad having someone of Fshola's mould doing push-ups at the Senate.

mikeansy:


Because he stole power from a democratically elected government!

He stole no power, Nigerians as at then were even in jubilation when it happened, times without number, you guys have been schooled on how the coup happened and how he came to be the HOS.

I believe you are not 40 yet, so you still have hope of allowing education go through you.

Daresh:


The way you pour your venom into this na how much GMB dey pay you. I stand by my words that he is a theif. How can Obasanjo, the father of all thieves call someone honest and you chop it. Seriously?

GMB can't pay the caliber of people supporting him, rather the people supporting him are the ones raising money for him to win this election, even the past elections were funded mostly by his supporters. can you beat that?

If Obasanjo his main rival between 2003 and 2007 called him honest and you doubt it, then you have issues with trust and only liars doubt things unconsciously.

If Atiku becomes the APC candidate, would Fashola agree to be his running mate?

honeric01:


He stole no power, Nigerians as at then were even in jubilation when it happened, times without number, you guys have been schooled on how the coup happened and how he came to be the HOS.

I believe you are not 40 yet, so you still have hope of allowing education go through you.

He stole power!

Ignorant Nigerians or Africans jubilated when ever there was a coup but that is not to say it was not theft!

The law and the 1979 constitution provided for how the government can be removed. Coup de tat was not one of them!

Therefore Buhari stole power using guns, it don't matter who was jubilating!

The armed robber Aninih in The old Bendel in those days also had fans. To this day thieves, gangsters and terrorists also have fans.

mikeansy:


He stole power!

Ignorant Nigerians or Africans jubilated when ever there was a coup but that is not to say it was not theft!

The law and the 1979 constitution provided for how the government can be removed. Coup de tat was not one of them!

Therefore Buhari stole power using guns, it don't matter who was jubilating!

The armed robber Aninih in The old Bendel in those days also had fans. To this day thieves, gangsters and terrorists also have fans.

You can keep repeating lies, it won't make it the truth, do you know those who participated in the coup? if you do, can you please send us a link to their names? at least we know of those who took out Murtala and co. help us with the names of the coup plotters with verifiable links.

CFCfan:
The recent body language of Lagos State governor, Babatunde Fashola, suggests he wants nothing to do with being a running mate to either Buhari or Atiku. Instead, Fashola may likely seek a Senatorial nomination; and he is a sure bet to win both the Senatorial primary and the February general election.

However, if the APC loses the presidential election, I wouldn't mind a Senator Fashola becoming the APC presidential nominee for the 2019 election. By then, his combined 8 years as a governor, and 4 years as a Senator should be adequate experience needed to run for the highest office in the land.

and when will they give chance for leaders of tomorrow

CFCfan:
The recent body language of Lagos State governor, Babatunde Fashola, suggests he wants nothing to do with being a running mate to either Buhari or Atiku. Instead, Fashola may likely seek a Senatorial nomination; and he is a sure bet to win both the Senatorial primary and the February general election.

However, if the APC loses the presidential election, I wouldn't mind a Senator Fashola becoming the APC presidential nominee for the 2019 election. By then, his combined 8 years as a governor, and 4 years as a Senator should be adequate experience needed to run for the highest office in the land.

You're making permutations as if we don't know that that's not how Nigerians think. 4yrs from now, if he's not V.P, Fashola would be all but forgotten.

Acidosis:


But Your master Fashola and Buhari are Muslims; if religion isn't important, why can't he (Fashola) change religion for the sake of politics and vice-presidential ambition?

If religion is so important to you as you proclaim with every post on here you would know what Christianity stated about hypocrisy.

honeric01:


You can keep repeating lies, it won't make it the truth, do you know those who participated in the coup? if you do, can you please send us a link to their names? at least we know of those who took out Murtala and co. help us with the names of the coup plotters with verifiable links.

What has the names of the coupist got to do with anything?

Please which bit is a lie?

1. That there was a 1979 constitution?
2. That the 1979 constitution provided for democratic means to remove the then civilian administration?
3.that coup was not recognised by the constitution as a means to remove the government and hence is criminal?
4.that Buhari emerged head of state after the government was criminally removed?
5. That the wilful possession of criminal property is not a crime?
6. That Buhari being that he was not the most senior officer at the time would have emerged because he was complicit in the coup?

Which bit is a lie?

Buhari is a criminal and a common thief!

mikeansy:


What has the names of the coupist got to do with anything?

Please which bit is a lie?

1. That there was a 1979 constitution?
2. That the 1979 constitution provided for democratic means to remove the then civilian administration?
3.that coup was not recognised by the constitution as a means to remove the government and hence is criminal?
4.that Buhari emerged head of state after the government was criminally removed?
5. That the wilful possession of criminal property is not a crime?
6. That Buhari being that he was not the most senior officer at the time would have emerged because he was complicit in the coup?

Which bit is a lie?

Buhari is a criminal and a common thief!

Why not just do the needful like a learned person and not a beer parlor customer by listing the names of the coupists? we know those who masterminded the coup and how Buhari came to be the HOS at that period, but then people like you prefer the backdoor, love to erode truth with lies.

If he's a criminal like you want us to believe, why is he still walking free despite being in the opposition since 1999?

For those children on this forum, please find below reasons why IBB removed Buhari in 1985. The regime's 20 months was a disater to say the least! Please read!

Excerpt of Text of General Ibrahim Babangida's Coup Speech
August 27 , 1985

Fellow Nigerians,
When in December 1983, the former military leadership, headed by Major-General Muhammadu Buhari, assumed the reins of government, its accession was heralded in the history of this country.

... [b]Since January 1984, however, we have witnessed a systematic denigration of that hope. [/b]It was stated then that mismanagement of political leadership and a general deterioration in the standard of living, which had subjected the common man to intolerable suffering, were the reasons for the intervention. Nigerians have since then been under a regime that continued with those trends. Events today indicate that most of the reasons which justified the military takeover of government from the civilians still persist.

The initial objectives were betrayed and fundamental changes do not appear on the horizon. Because the present state of uncertainty, suppression and stagnation resulted from the perpetration of a small group, the Nigerian Armed Forces could not as a part of that government be unfairly committed to take responsibility for failure. Our dedication to the cause of ensuring that our nation remains a united entity worthy of respect and capable of functioning as a viable and credible part of the international community dictated the need to arrest the situation.

Let me at this point attempt to make you understand the premise upon which it became necessary to change the leadership. The principles of discussions, consultation and co-operation which should have guided decision-making process of the Supreme Military Council and the Federal Executive Council were disregarded soon after the government settled down in 1984. Where some of us thought it appropriate to give a little more time, anticipating a conducive atmosphere that would develop, in which affairs of state could be attended to with greater sense of responsibility, it became increasingly clear that such expectations could not be fulfilled.

Regrettably, it turned out that Major-General Muhammadu Buhari was too rigid and uncompromising in his attitudes to issues of national significance. Efforts to make him understand that a diverse polity like Nigeria required recognition and appreciation of differences in both cultural and individual perceptions, only served to aggravate these attitudes.

... And so it came to be that the same government which received the tumultuous welcome now became alienated from the people. To prevent a complete erosion of our given mandate therefore, we had to act so that hope may be rebuilt.

... As we do not intend to lead a country where individuals are under the fear of expressing themselves, the Public Officers Protection Against False Accusation Decree 4 of 1984 is hereby repealed. And finally, those who have been in detention under this decree are hereby unconditionally released.[/b] The responsibility of the media to disseminate information shall be exercised without undue hindrance. In that process, those responsible are expected to be forthright and to have the nation's interest as their primary consideration.

The issue of decrees has generated a lot of controversies. It is the intention of this government to review all other decrees.

[b]The last twenty months have not witnessed any significant changes in the national economy. Contrary to expectations, we have so far been subjected to a steady deterioration in the general standard of living; and intolerable suffering by the ordinary Nigerians have risen higher, scarcity of commodities has increased, hospitals still remain mere consulting clinics, while educational institutions are on the brink of decay. Unemployment has stretched to critical dimensions.

Due to the stalemate, which arose in negotiation with the International Monetary Fund, the former government embarked on a series of counter-trade agreements. Under the counter-trade agreements, Nigerians were forced to buy goods and commodities at higher prices than obtained in the international market. The government intends to review the whole issue of counter-trade.
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