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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by boujaye: 12:03pm On Nov 06, 2014
Neyova:
Hit like if you think the OP is high on local herbs.
Your comment is not on point, don't distract. Please face the debate raised by the OP. cool what is your point, tell us!!

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by OLADD: 12:03pm On Nov 06, 2014
BrosPeter:
OP datolee:
Very nice of you to disprove all the lies of this barcanista guy.

I think APC should withdraw their funding of barcanista, the money paid to the guy is a waste as proven here.
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He may not be a paid-agent but one of the mischief markers around.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Nobody: 12:06pm On Nov 06, 2014
boujaye:
Your comment is not on point, don't distract. Please face the debate raised by the OP. cool what is your point, tell us!!
They are doing you

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by chlowi(f): 12:07pm On Nov 06, 2014
BrosPeter:
OP datolee:
Very nice of you to disprove all the lies of this barcanista guy.

I think APC should withdraw their funding of barcanista, the money paid to the guy is a waste as proven here.

grin

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by OLADD: 12:07pm On Nov 06, 2014
nigerianvenom:


no,u are wrong on this.buhari has a lot to offer.
1. he'll ensure sharia is implemented across nigeria.
2.he'll ensure his boys(boko haram) ends their operation.
3 he'll ensure there is no freedom of information and journalist will be guage and jail at will.
4 nigeria's capital will be moved to daura(his home town).
5 he'll do more...

but all these will happen on his dreams
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Imagine someone that truncated democracy in 1985 coming to tell us he's a progressive and democrat in 2014. Shame of a nation suffering from memory loss.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by abacus(m): 12:07pm On Nov 06, 2014
barcanista:
We agree on the GDP per capita based on PPP and inflatIon. Thanks for that of the debt

First, I never said GMB operated surplus budget, except when you uplifted it fromm SR. Anyway, from my research, the Budget deficit under GMB was reuced by 21%, which implies 21% Growth in 1984. You should rather spell this out than shouting deficit deficit like it detoriated under him.

3.On Refinery.....
- they had the idea b4 GMB came to power in NNPC of building refinery

- It took a Buhari to implement the Idea and Signed the contract for both refineries under the leadership of Obj.

One Question:
Who built it? Who Signed it?

Thank you jare..

I also got this from SR.. This is also on Buhari

.. He maintained a vibrant foreign policy with Africa as its principal focus. Nigeria was already a failed state economically when he seized government from Shagari. We had a staggering foreign debt load of US$18 billion, so B[b]uhari stopped all further borrowing[/b], and in defiance of the IMF and World Bank, provided a home-grown alternative to the IMF’s SAP and pegged the exchange rate of the naira at one to the US$1.50. He stopped all further borrowing from abroad; instituted counter trade for essential or desperately needed commodities and put a ceiling (or an upper limit) on the amount of foreign exchange earnings to be used in servicing foreign debts. After sorting out and rejecting all the dubious and unverifiable foreign debts in our portfolio, he paid off nearly 50% of the genuine debts by the end of his regime in 1985.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Nobody: 12:11pm On Nov 06, 2014
First, you said Buhari played no role.

You later questioned how could a Refinery be signed in 77 and commissioned in '78

Later you said you don't know when the contract was signed.

And Now you are saying it could be the Minister.....

Let me Come In:

1. GMB was instrumental as it was during his supervision that the Refineries in Warri and Kaduna was signed/built.

2. I am sure you are clear

3. Buhari signed the dotted lines. It was entirely under his jurisdiction

4. GMB was the Petroleum Minister since 1976 and also NNPC Chairman(which he assumed in 77). He held both roles till july 1979(if I'm not wrong)

Thank Yoù
datolee:


I think maybe we should rewind to you initial statement which you presented as fact



I will ask you again, with the evidence provided, do you still stand by your fact that Buhari initiated the Warri and Kaduna refineries? Please, go through my post here, I have always highlighted the keyword, initiated.

My simple argument is that he did not initiate any refinery as NNPC chairman... Fact number 1

He did not sign the contract for Warri refinery ... fact number 2

The question of who signed the contract is subjective, I could say it was signed by the petroleum minister, that is if there was one then. Since we do not have the document, it is very difficult to say who signed the contract on-behalf of Nigerian government. Nowhere in the report did it say that the contract was between NNPC and CHIYODA CHEMICAL ENGINEERING & CONSTRUCTION COMPANY OF YOKOHAMA.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by lordOM(m): 12:13pm On Nov 06, 2014
For the learners supporters#APC support group,the best way to win the hearts of Nigerians is to rationally criticise the ruling party(PDP) and not trying to discredit their government.I for once have never seen any tangible thing done by the present CIC of Nigeria but its better to have a devil around you than a malicious saint.BUHARI and APC will fail in the upcoming polls cos you can't build a mansion on a swallow foundation.NGENE UKWENU pls detest from that propagandous and malicious lifestyle.Quote me as many times as u feel like.#truthhurts

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by kenex4ever(m): 12:14pm On Nov 06, 2014
lacasa:
Yawns!!!!


Op, na only u waka come.



There are those that believe that there is no God and yes! It's an opinion I guess.


So, enjoy ur two minutes fame, it's still BUHARI to Salvage wat Jonathief and his herd of militants and sycophants av feasted upon n devoured in the Nigerian state.


grin
am happy dat all d apc e-rats now see datolee as famous( in other words: they accepting defeat one by one). How can a totally blind man(barcanista-it's unfortunate he is my fellow barca fan) lead the one eyed(other apc e rats:berem, omenka, n co)? Only a blind man never accept defeat because he's got no eye to see it. His single eyed followers are already backing off in shame.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Nobody: 12:17pm On Nov 06, 2014
abacus:


Thank you jare..

I also got this from SR.. This is also on Buhari




Thank You very much bro, I had to ignore people that had no clue(attacking me). I wish I can access materials that talks indepth on the economic regime of 1984-85

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Firefire(m): 12:18pm On Nov 06, 2014
lordOM:
For the learners supporters#

APC support group,the best way to win the hearts of Nigerians is to rationally criticise the ruling party(PDP) and not trying to discredit their government.

I for once have never seen any tangible thing done by the present CIC of Nigeria but its better to have a devil around you than a malicious saint.

BUHARI and APC will fail in the upcoming polls cos you can't build a mansion on a swallow foundation.


NGENE UKWENU pls detest from that propagandous and malicious lifestyle.Quote me as many times as u feel like.#truthhurts

Formatted wink

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by lacasa: 12:18pm On Nov 06, 2014
kenex4ever:
am happy dat all d apc e-rats now see datolee as famous( in other words: they accepting defeat one by one). How can a totally blind man(barcanista-it's unfortunate he is my fellow barca fan) lead the one eyed(other apc e rats:berem, omenka, n co)? Only a blind man never accept defeat because he's got no eye to see it. His single eyed followers are already backing off in shame.


Comprehension is a big problem 4u
Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Carmal90(m): 12:19pm On Nov 06, 2014
I dey observe
Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Candyrain(m): 12:20pm On Nov 06, 2014
coldFLARES1:
I simply cannot get the delusion that makes people like the Op want to engage in e-war all the time. Jonathan is the best abi? A prayer was said for the supporters of GEJ yesterday and of all the raving crowd of GEJ supprters, only one said 'Amen' with conditions.
If you are doing your job, I would excuse you but if you are so paranoid as to be fixated on a sustenance of misrule, ineptitude and corruption, then you need redemption!
No one is saying GEJ is the best and neither is Buhari a saint. Just that GEJ is a lesser evil compared to Buhari. Thanks

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by TippyTop(m): 12:21pm On Nov 06, 2014
If there was an election in Nairaland today, I think datolee will win it hands down. This just shows many people knew barcanista was lieing but couldn't do anything about it.
VOTE DATOLEE FOR KANO STATE GOV 2015 grin grin grin

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Max24: 12:21pm On Nov 06, 2014
Neyova:
They are doing you
Typical Yoruba man. "Awon wo lo nse?" cheesy
Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Nobody: 12:22pm On Nov 06, 2014
Aksonman:


Abeg, u didnot check shi-shi, criminal like you. Are the links from CBN and DMO not verifiable? Omo Buhari oshi!
hey don't ever call me a criminal again. Be very careful.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Firefire(m): 12:22pm On Nov 06, 2014
TippyTop:
If there was an election in Nairaland today, I think datolee will win it hands down. This just shows many people knew barcanista was lieing but couldn't do anything about it.
VOTE DATOLEE FOR KANO STATE GOV 2015 grin grin grin

Is Dalotee from Kano ?
Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by secnelly: 12:23pm On Nov 06, 2014
People sef....we are really the architect of our problems. Buhari ,1985, still contesting for presidency 30years later and some people are proudly supporting him but when an old man is made the chairman of your town meeting, you revolt.

Some nigerians need to grow up.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Nobody: 12:24pm On Nov 06, 2014
lacasa:



Comprehension is a big problem 4u

Its only a blind man that will not see the progress of our economy made by the Buhari regime. Not even the OP could fault it, though he tried to unsuccessfully.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Nobody: 12:24pm On Nov 06, 2014
barcanista:
First, you said Buhari played no role.

You later questioned how could a Refinery be signed in 77 and commissioned in '78

Later you said you don't know when the contract was signed.

And Now you are saying it could be the Minister.....

Let me Come In:

1. GMB was instrumental as it was during his supervision that the Refineries in Warri and Kaduna was signed/built.

2. I am sure you are clear

3. Buhari signed the dotted lines. It was entirely under his jurisdiction

4. GMB was the Petroleum Minister since 1976 and also NNPC Chairman(which he assumed in 77). He held both roles till july 1979(if I'm not wrong)

Thank Yoù

You made me remember one joke by Dave Chappelle, He said that "women" will take argument everywhere just to win them.

Maybe I will have to remind you again what I wrote in the OP

It is on record that GMB initiated nothing, he only signed contract as NNPC chairman as the decision to build the 2 refineries was initiated in 1974 when Buhari was nowhere in the government. Here is extracts from NNPC website:

I will repeat again, and we can go over this as many times as you want today, The decision to build the two refineries wasn't taken by Buhari, He did not sign the contract for Warri refinery and the name of who signed the contract for Kaduna refinery is subjective because we do not have the document. Giving Buhari the accolade as initiator of those refineries is a slap on the face of those who made the initial decision.

One final question for you: Did Buhari initiate the construction of the two refineries as you wrote?, yes or no and we will move on.

Thanks for your time and all the best

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Awho(m): 12:25pm On Nov 06, 2014
Just imagine the type of man we want to vote as president...


Guys please vote for #Rokiatu in the ongoing miss niaraland pargent. She's contestant no.6. Voting starts by 10am-6pm daily. Thanks from #TeamRokiatu

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by ogaofficer(m): 12:28pm On Nov 06, 2014
nairaman66:


PDP TANoids are afraid of change! What has the PDP leg government achieved in the last 16yrs of democratic rule? It has been one hell of a bumpy ride for Nigerians- Colossal corruption, nepotism, jingoism and cabalism! This system must change and I don't see the PDP giving us this change!

Obviously Buhari is not a saint, but he definitely has the credentials to take us there!
even if he doesnt have the credential, y cnt we jst give change a chance. Pres jonathan lacks accountability and the worst of all is that he cant hold others accountable. When leaders dnt hold pple accountable, the opposite must be true (well look at what d corrupt minister under his admin did and they all went scot free) this wil create a sense of disappointment, inequity and insecurity and these are the thoughts of average NIGERIANZ nd nt this incogruent history which have natn to do with our present situation. I believe in CHANGE lets give the man a chance as we all have given to GEJ back in those days.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Firefire(m): 12:30pm On Nov 06, 2014
datolee:


You made me remember one joke by Dave Chappelle, He said that "women" will take argument everywhere just to win them.

Maybe I will have to remind you again what I wrote in the OP



I will repeat again, and we can go over this as many times as you want today, The decision to build the two refineries wasn't taken by Buhari, He did not sign the contract for Warri refinery and the name of who signed the contract for Kaduna refinery is subjective because we do not have the document. Giving Buhari the accolade as initiator of those refineries is a slap on the face of those who made the initial decision.

One final question for you: Did Buhari initiate the construction of the two refineries as you wrote?, yes or no and we will move on.

Thanks for your time and all the best

NO!!!!!!!!!!

There is an adage that says “a lie repeated several times seems to be true.” This is exactly the case of Gen. Muhammadu Buhari as regards to

the Nigerian refineries. Many Nigerians, maybe out of ignorance believe the lie that Buhari built our 4 refineries. This can be regarded as

the ‘lie of the century.’ If you are one of those that believed this repeatedly told lies, this special and well investigated report by NewsDay

Reporters will cure you of ignorance.

For the records, Nigeria has four refineries namely Port Harcourt, Alesa-Eleme (PH 1), Warri, Kaduna and PH 11 refineries.

In 1960, Shell and the then British Petroleum (BP) now African Petroleum (AP) came together in a mutual joint venture that gave birth to

Nigerian Petroleum Refining Company (NPRC). This process led to the construction of the now popular Alesa-Eleme (PH 1) in the outskirts of

Port Harcourt with a capacity of 38,000b/d. The construction started in 1963 and was completed in 1965 (in this period, where was Buhari? he

just joined the army in 1962). As the demand for local consumption increased rapidly, the refinery’s capacity was raised to 60,000b/d after the

FG acquired 60% equity in 1970 and the remaining 40% in 1978 through the 1977 decree 77.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Nobody: 12:30pm On Nov 06, 2014
barcanista:
Thank You very much bro, I had to ignore people that had no clue(attacking me). I wish I can access materials that talks indepth on the economic regime of 1984-85
you have done well in educating the ignorant mofos. leave them to continue wallowing in self denial all because they hate Buhari. Come 2015,Buhari is going to be the next Nigerian president. No lies and hate will stop him from occupying Aso Rock next year.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by lacasa: 12:30pm On Nov 06, 2014
barcanista:
Its only a blind man that will not see the progress of our economy made by the Buhari regime. Not even the OP could fault it, though he tried to unsuccessfully.


The Op's seeking his cheap two minute claim to Nairaland fame.


It's a cheap ploy!

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by najoke: 12:32pm On Nov 06, 2014
lacasa:



The Op's seeking his cheap two minute claim to Nairaland fame.


It's a cheap ploy!
^
Well said.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by OLADD: 12:32pm On Nov 06, 2014
Candyrain:
No one is saying GEJ is the best and neither is Buhari a saint. Just that GEJ is a lesser evil compared to Buhari. Thanks
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Unreservedly Seconded. So spot on.

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Firefire(m): 12:34pm On Nov 06, 2014
The Warri Refinery was awarded by Yakubu Gowon to Snamprogetti Spa Milan, Italy in 1975 (in this period, Buhari was the governor of North-

eastern state) at the cost of $478 million and commenced operation in 1978 (now he was a Petroleum. Minister). It had the design capacity of

100,000 b/d.


The Kaduna Refinery was awarded by Murtala Mohammed in 1976 and was built by Chiyoda Engineering and Construction Company - a

Japanese firm, at the cost of $525 million and was completed by Obasanjo in 1979 (Buhari's tenure as the Petroleum. Minister ended in 1978).

It had two refining streams (50,000 b/d fuels units) and (50,000 b/d lubes, waxes Asphalt plants).


Port Harcourt 11 was awarded by Gen IBB in 1985 with an installed capacity of 150,000 b/d and completed in 1989. Meanwhile in 1985, IBB

undertook an expansion of the capacities of the fuels units in both Warri and Kaduna refineries to 125,000b/d and 110,000b/d respectively. He

therefore added 185,000b/d capacity to the total 445,000b/d as at 1989. No further addition has been added till date.


So, when did Buhari build the four refineries?

Lets I forget, Buhari has no legacy as a former Head of State despite ruling the country with an iron-fist.


From:
http://www.newsdayreporters.com/what-s-hot/536-specialreport-muhammadu-buhari-did-not-build-any-refinery-for-nigeria-editorial-newsday-reporters.html

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by Max24: 12:36pm On Nov 06, 2014
barcanista:
Thank You very much bro, I had to ignore people that had no clue(attacking me). I wish I can access materials that talks indepth on the economic regime of 1984-85
You will have to wait forever to get those materials. I quite sympatise with ur predicament. Now you wished GMB had done many things in 1984- only if wishes were horses. Again, please accept my condolences(sic!)

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by rayamayo: 12:36pm On Nov 06, 2014
with your analysis, you want us to believe that Buhari is a liar but this cannot be as we all know GMB. Your write up, not withstanding, GMB is the best man for the presidency come 2015. You are using facts & figures to defend GEJ government that has no truth whatsoever. Nigeria has passed the age of one individual coming out with facts & figures on behalf of government to tell others who do not derive any benefit from the same government to follow him and rubbish the only hopeful aspirant. You are on your own. GMB is it.[/size[/size[size=8pt][/size]

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Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by secnelly: 12:37pm On Nov 06, 2014
post=27774395:
People sef....we are really the architect of our problems.
Buhari from 1985, still contesting for presidency 30years later and some people are proudly supporting him but when an old man is made the chairman of your town meeting, you revolt.

Some nigerians need to grow up.


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