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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 8:57pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
Did you watch the game?

Those guys were very tired. And they were robbed too.
Yea I watched the game

City don't have any excuses anymore jor. They've been in Europe for 4 straight years now and they have a very wealthy squad yet they're still failing. Save it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:01pm On Nov 06, 2014
barackohandso:
Yea I watched the game

City don't have any excuses anymore jor. They've been in Europe for 4 straight years now and they have a very wealthy squad yet they're still failing. Save it
On Wednesday evening, the Blues' showing was certainly not befitting of a team that has ambitions to be winning the competition. Fingers will be pointed at some poor officiating, but that can't excuse the shambolic display that saw the hosts lose to the supposed weakest team in the group and barely test the opposition goalkeeper.
http://www.espnfc.us/club/manchester-city/382/blog/post/2131329/player-ratings-nobody-stars-on-a-bad-night-for-manchester-city


* Don't forget the dubious penalty that saw CSK equalized in the first leg.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:03pm On Nov 06, 2014
barackohandso:
Yea I watched the game

City don't have any excuses anymore jor. They've been in Europe for 4 straight years now and they have a very wealthy squad yet they're still failing. Save it
it's a mental block!
it will take a while before they get used to playing in europe. they don't even have a hostile atmosphere to threaten their opponents like you would get at anfield, OT, allianz arena or the emirates.

chelsea were already a european powerhouse before roman took over in 2003. they had money to spend and the sudden boost was a plus to the european experience they already had. city were nobodies when the abu dhabi boys took over - you can't just expect them to buy here & there and become a european giant overnight!

PSG, malaga, monaco are also clubs that had a billionaire taking over them.....how many times has any of them won in europe despite the millions they have spent? i hate man city than lucifer himself but it's harsh to compare them to real madrid just because they are the biggest spenders in the EPL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:03pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
Bayern knows they can afford to relax because the whole world knows how the league will end. The news is not Bayern winning the league but when they lost it. So they can afford to conserve energy for the UCL.

Dortmund is also not putting commensurate effort to the league. So they have extra power to play the UCL.
City are exhausted after playing 10 men for 1hr LOL

WHat a useless excuse
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:06pm On Nov 06, 2014
coogar:
it's a mental block!
it will take a while before they get used to playing in europe. they don't even have a hostile atmosphere to threaten their opponents like you would get at anfield, OT, allianz arena or the emirates.

chelsea were already a european powerhouse before roman took over in 2003. they had money to spend and the sudden boost was a plus to the european experience they already had. city were nobodies when the abu dhabi boys took over - you can't just expect them to buy here & there and become a european giant overnight!

PSG, malaga, monaco are also clubs that had a billionaire taking over them.....how many times has any of them won in europe despite the millions they have spent? i hate man city than lucifer himself but it's harsh to compare them to real madrid just because they are the biggest spenders in the EPL.
PSG was bought after City, They have made the CL, they are topping the group that has Barca

Malaga was bought for a season and they made the quarters

Monaco is just making the CL this season and they already have more wins than CIty has managed in the last 6 games

WHy is this mental block not stopping Malaga, PSG, Monaco and other noveau riche clubs from making knockout. Its only SHitty that mental block affects
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:09pm On Nov 06, 2014
A host of City players confront referee Tasos Sidiropoulos at full-time, with captain Kompany leading the protests. The performance of the official is sure to be a topic of post-match discussion, but City must surely ask questions of themselves as well. They now sit bottom of the group and must now beat Bayern if there is a winner in the matchday five meeting between CSKA and Roma.

90' + 4' FULL TIME! Another penalty appeal from the hosts is turned down, and that will be that. Two goals from Seydou Doumbia prove enough to give CSKA Moscow a stunning win at the Etihad Stadium against a City side down to nine men by the final whistle. A remarkable evening, but an extremely painful one for Manuel Pellegrini's team.
90' + 2' CSKA are moments away from a famous victory. What a night this has been for them!

90' Yellow Card Sergio Agüero

90' While City may dispute the Fernandinho dismissal and lament the referee's failure to dismiss Wernbloom, there can be no denying that Pellegrini's men have failed to deliver this evening. To rub salt into their wounds, Aguero is booked for simulation after going down under a challenge from Ignashevich. The home fans are furious.


80' And now Eremenko goes into the book for delaying another City free-kick. CSKA certainly appear to have had a let-off with the apparent case of mistaken identity a few moments ago. Wernbloom certainly looked to be the guilty party as Aguero went down.
http://www.goal.com/en/match/manchester-city-vs-cska-moskva/1923655/live-commentary



Anyone who saw the match should know the unpardonable wickedness of the referee.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 9:13pm On Nov 06, 2014
coogar:
la liga is the only league better than EPL at this moment. i decided to keep mum about the debate cos it has been over-flogged.



chop what?
is it unexpected for city to win on their home ground after playing against 10 men for more than 60 mins?

are you sure a centipede didn't crawled up your rectum or why are you spewing nonsense this beautiful evening?
Why not direct that question to Rooney with his undeserved 300,000 Pounds weekly? tongue

Although you accept La Liga is better but to give the excuse of losing to a red card is unacceptable... angry

Na today, teams dey win with 9 or 10 players? undecided --- Should I go into archives? angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 9:14pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
On Wednesday evening, the Blues' showing was certainly not befitting of a team that has ambitions to be winning the competition. Fingers will be pointed at some poor officiating, but that can't excuse the shambolic display that saw the hosts lose to the supposed weakest team in the group and barely test the opposition goalkeeper.
http://www.espnfc.us/club/manchester-city/382/blog/post/2131329/player-ratings-nobody-stars-on-a-bad-night-for-manchester-city


* Don't forget the dubious penalty that saw CSK equalized in the first leg.
If this excuse flies for the CSKA match, how about the others? They're the EPL champions for pete's sake. I used to make the debutants excuse for them but it's seriously not flying anymore
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:14pm On Nov 06, 2014
The ref was just wicked. Wernbloom pulled Aguero for over 3 yards and when Aguero was about to enter the box, he pulled him down with power. The ref was right there. That should have been a second yellow and 10 vs 10 from there on.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:17pm On Nov 06, 2014
barackohandso:
If this excuse flies for the CSKA match, how about the others? They're the EPL champions for pete's sake. I used to make the debutants excuse for them but it's seriously not flying anymore
Robbed 3 points at away.

At least a point at home. Haba! To me it's three points sef. With 10 vs 10, City would have gotten their 2 goals.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 9:18pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
Now I know you didnt see the match.

Aguero was booked the first time which was rightly a dive. The second was a penalty.
Oga, how could I watch it when my team was playing as well? grin

But I did see the highlights & to my assessment, Man City should forget about any qualification including Uefa Cup, they are disgraceful... grin

Imagine a team with just 2 points in 4 matches n una dey here dey defend them... lipsrsealed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 9:19pm On Nov 06, 2014
coogar:
it's a mental block!
it will take a while before they get used to playing in europe. they don't even have a hostile atmosphere to threaten their opponents like you would get at anfield, OT, allianz arena or the emirates.

chelsea were already a european powerhouse before roman took over in 2003. they had money to spend and the sudden boost was a plus to the european experience they already had. city were nobodies when the abu dhabi boys took over - you can't just expect them to buy here & there and become a european giant overnight!

PSG, malaga, monaco are also clubs that had a billionaire taking over them.....how many times has any of them won in europe despite the millions they have spent? i hate man city than lucifer himself but it's harsh to compare them to real madrid just because they are the biggest spenders in the EPL.
Well the mental block excuse does sound plausible.

To be fair, malaga had a good run in their only run in the UCL, and PSG have been going out in the knockout stages not group stages like man city
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:21pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
PSG was bought after City, They have made the CL, they are topping the group that has Barca

Malaga was bought for a season and they made the quarters

Monaco is just making the CL this season and they already have more wins than CIty has managed in the last 6 games

WHy is this mental block not stopping Malaga, PSG, Monaco and other noveau riche clubs from making knockout. Its only SHitty that mental block affects
i doubt you have a cognitive reasoning.
do you just open your mouth absent wisdom? why are you making this look like city have never qualified from the group stage ever?

remind us again how many points city copped last season? what has the group stage gotta do with the pedigree of a club in europe? malaga, monaco & PSG made the q/finals? congratulations to them but so did spurs in 10/11.

spurs topped their group ahead of inter & a certain club in germany i am so ashamed to mention and they reached the q/finals at the expense of ac milan. it's not about getting to the q/finals or topping the group - it's about getting to the semis & above plus having a nice showing.

barackohandso:
Well the mental block excuse does sound plausible.
it's a mental block!
when english clubs were banned from european games between 1985 & 1990, it took 9 years for any of them to win the champions league again. meanwhile prior to the ban, liverpool were shytting bombs on all the teams in europe like no man's business.

To be fair, malaga had a good run in their only run in the UCL, and PSG have been going out in the knockout stages not group stages like man city
you can say the same for spurs in 10/11.
a newbie club can have a good run or strike fortunes with the loss of form of the other clubs in the group. would you ever have believed spurs can go to san siro of all places and win?

if they were from ukraine league, raumdeuter woulda used that example to back his false claims that english league is weak. you cannot rule out mental block in football. it takes a while to overcome it. liverpool are suffering from it as we speak - their long absence in the competition is the reason they have been hopeless this season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 9:24pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
Robbed 3 points at away.

At least a point at home. Haba! To me it's three points sef. With 10 vs 10, City would have gotten their 2 goals.
Would it have changed anything? Just a point at home. Everton would have done a better job I tell you

Let them stay in the 2nd tier
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 9:30pm On Nov 06, 2014
IYANGBALI:
yaya asked for the red card and he got,he behaved like a tout to get it
Honestly, yaya dey fumble sometimes, if na EPL, dem go free am.. lipsrsealed


Man city n other EPL teams except Chelsea dey f. Up big time... tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:31pm On Nov 06, 2014
coded01:
Why not direct that question to Rooney with his undeserved 300,000 Pounds weekly? tongue

Although you accept La Liga is better but to give the excuse of losing to a red card is unacceptable... angry

Na today, teams dey win with 9 or 10 players? undecided --- Should I go into archives? angry
go into archives and show us an example of equally matched teams where one of the team played 10 men for one hour and still won.

if you cannot find one example - you're in trouble!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:36pm On Nov 06, 2014
coded01:

Oga, how could I watch it when my team was playing as well?
grin

But I did see the highlights & to my assessment, Man City should forget about any qualification including Uefa Cup, they are disgraceful... grin

Imagine a team with just 2 points in 4 matches n una dey here dey defend them... lipsrsealed
This is why I said you should believe me when I said they were battle fatigued. They played like 45 years old men. Looking tired and immobile. When Nasri came on and they attempted to play better, then the red card came. But they didn't give up..... then the referee started frustrating them.

With fair officiating, they would be 7 points now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 9:37pm On Nov 06, 2014
IYANGBALI:
I pray so o, so that I can start wearing our jersey proudly in my area again,I can't remember when last I wore it ,no thanks to our boys
Smh... grin grin grin


Yet Rooney dey chop 300,000 Pounds weekly! tongue grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:39pm On Nov 06, 2014
barackohandso:
Would it have changed anything? Just a point at home. Everton would have done a better job I tell you

Let them stay in the 2nd tier
* 2 points denied City at away.

* 1 or 3 points denied denied them at Etihad. They were playing very well in the last 12 minutes. But In also blame Deko for missing a clear chance to round the goalkeeper for free. Aguero tried, he was trying to win it alone even at 9 men.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 9:40pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
This is why I said you should believe me when I said they were battle fatigued. They played like 45 years old men. Looking tired and immobile. When Nasri came on and they attempted to play better, then the red card came. But they didn't give up..... then the referee started frustrating them.

With fair officiating, they would be 7 points now.
Let's assume, you are right about the officiating, but 7 points for just 3 points? Wetin na? angry grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:42pm On Nov 06, 2014
coogar:
i doubt you have a cognitive reasoning.
do you just open your mouth absent wisdom? why are you making this look like city have never qualified from the group stage ever?

remind us again how many points city copped last season? what has the group stage gotta do with the pedigree of a club in europe? malaga, monaco & PSG made the q/finals? congratulations to them but so did spurs in 10/11.

spurs topped their group ahead of inter & a certain club in germany i am so ashamed to mention and they reached the q/finals at the expense of ac milan. it's not about getting to the q/finals or topping the group - it's about getting to the semis & above plus having a nice showing.



it's a mental block!
when english clubs were banned from european games between 1985 & 1990, it took 9 years for any of them to win the champions league again. meanwhile prior to the ban, liverpool were shytting bombs on all the teams in europe like no man's business.



you can say the same for spurs in 10/11.
a newbie club can have a good run or strike fortunes with the loss of form of the other clubs in the group. would you ever have believed spurs can go to san siro of all places and win?

if they were from ukraine league, raumdeuter woulda used that example to back his false claims that english league is weak. you cannot rule out mental block in football. it takes a while to overcome it. liverpool are suffering from it as we speak - their long absence in the competition is the reason they have been hopeless this season.
This is absolute poppycocks

Is mental block solely designed for City?. You even gave us an example of SPurs making the quarter finals in their first attempt

WHich other club has this mental block where you have a squad worth over 200m and fail to make knockout stage 3 times in 4 attempts or fail to win any of their last 6 CL games
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:44pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
The ref was just wicked. Wernbloom pulled Aguero for over 3 yards and when Aguero was about to enter the box, he pulled him down with power. The ref was right there. That should have been a second yellow and 10 vs 10 from there on.
Only losers complain about referee and officiating. When Milner dove at the Allianz arena to win a penalty why were they not complaining

When City got a weak penalty vs Roma at Etihad how come you were not complaining
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:47pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
This is absolute poppycocks

Is mental block solely designed for City?. You even gave us an example of SPurs making the quarter finals in their first attempt
that's because q/finals or topping the group like you are shouting about isnt a mark of greatness in europe. if you don't get to the last 4, it's a poor outing altogether.

the spurs example is just to show you that your success yardstick in europe is flawed. clubs that get their early bath in the round of 16 and the ones that came last in their groups are the same thing. 2% and 39% are both F

WHich other club has this mental block where you have a squad worth over 200m and fail to make knockout stage 3 times in 4 attempts or fail to win any of their last 6 CL games
this question is irrelevant!
i have proven there's a mental block. i have also given you an example of an english club that topped their group & beat ac milan against all odds - so your attempt to deride english clubs in europe has been mortally destroyed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:49pm On Nov 06, 2014
coded01:
Let's assume, you are right about the officiating, but 7 points for just 3 points? Wetin na?/ angry grin
I am adding the first leg. CSKM equalized from a dubious penalty.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by IYANGBALI: 9:53pm On Nov 06, 2014
coded01:
Smh... grin grin grin


Yet Rooney dey chop 300,000 Pounds weekly! tongue grin
its not about rooney but the love of the game
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:53pm On Nov 06, 2014
coogar:
that's because q/finals or topping the group like you are shouting about isnt a mark of greatness in europe. if you don't get to the last 4, it's a poor outing altogether.

the spurs example is just to show you that your success yardstick in europe is flawed. clubs that get their early bath in the round of 16 and the ones that came last in their groups are the same thing. 2% and 39% are both F
.
A club who made quarter finals performed better than one who crashed out of the groups thats basic common sense.

Its like saying last season Man Utd in the CL = Sociedad who crashed out in the group stage

SImilar Arab shiek clubs like PSG, Malaga and Monaco have been ding better, How come City who has been enjoying this wealth for close to a decade cant do anything meaningful in the CL yet dominate their weak league


this question is irrelevant!
i have proven there's a mental block. i have also given you an example of an english club that topped their group & beat ac milan against all odds - so your attempt to deride english clubs in europe has been mortally destroyed
How have you proven their is a mental block? When 2 times English champions out of 3 seasons is getting mortally destroyed by everyone in Europe
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:54pm On Nov 06, 2014
Logging out.

I am tired.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:54pm On Nov 06, 2014
elampiro:
I am adding the first leg. CSKM equalized from a dubious penalty.
And City scored from a dubious penalty vs Roma
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by IYANGBALI: 9:59pm On Nov 06, 2014
coded01:
Honestly, yaya dey fumble sometimes, if na EPL, dem go free am.. lipsrsealed


Man city n other EPL teams except Chelsea dey f. Up big time... tongue
yes o
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:00pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
A club who made quarter finals performed better than one who crashed out of the groups thats basic common sense.
failure is failure!
didn't you see how united rode on a tour bus last season just because they made the q/finals and city didn't? grin it's such an achievement that moyes even got knighted.

Its like saying last season Man Utd in the CL = Sociedad who crashed out in the group stage
it's the same or even worse sef!
man utd crashing out in the q/finals is a bigger disappointment than CFR cluj that failed to make it out of the group.

SImilar Arab shiek clubs like PSG, Malaga and Monaco have been ding better, How come City who has been enjoying this wealth for close to a decade cant do anything meaningful in the CL yet dominate their weak league
because city are in a top league & where 3 of their other league representatives were already seeded.....it then means city always got difficult groups of death. this is common sense na. there's no seeded team in france....only 2 seeded teams in spain. there are 3 seeded teams in england.

even a fool should know these little details. city will always get a difficult group because of.....their lack of european pedigree & the fact that they must avoid chelsea, arsënal & man utd in the group stage.


How have you proven their is a mental block? When 2 times English champions out of 3 seasons is getting mortally destroyed by everyone in Europe
•liverpool before the ban
•english clubs shortly after the ban.
•malaga + PSG + monaco
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:18pm On Nov 06, 2014
coogar:
failure is failure!
didn't you see how united rode on a tour bus last season just because they made the q/finals and city didn't? grin it's such an achievement that moyes even got knighted.
it's the same or even worse sef!
man utd crashing out in the q/finals is a bigger disappointment than CFR cluj that failed to make it out of the group.
Not everyone can win. 32 teams come only one can win

Its like someone saying Holland is the same as Togo since both havent won the World cup


because city are in a top league & where 3 of their other league representatives were already seeded.....it then means city always got difficult groups of death. this is common sense na. there's no seeded team in france....only 2 seeded teams in spain. there are 3 seeded teams in england.
even a fool should know these little details. city will always get a difficult group because of.....their lack of european pedigree & the fact that they must avoid chelsea, arsënal & man utd in the group stage.
•liverpool before the ban
•english clubs shortly after the ban.
•malaga + PSG + monaco
LOL

Dortmund has never been seeded yet they keep making it out of the group of deaths in regular fashion

So whats City's excuse

Malaga PSG and Monaco dont have a mental block, They all made it out of the groups at first attempt which City couldnt
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:29pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
Not everyone can win. 32 teams come only one can win. Its like someone saying Holland is the same as Togo since both havent won the World Cup
your lack of deductive reasoning is worrying. holland have played in a final of the world cup with several other semi-final outings. i already told your dïckhead only teams that make it to the last 4 can say they have done well.


LOL

Dortmund has never been seeded yet they keep making it out of the group of deaths in regular fashion

So whats City's excuse
your stupidity is worrying!
dortmund only have to avoid bayern - it means they can easily find themselves in any of the 7 groups remaining. their chances of getting a group of death is slimmer.

city must avoid 3 groups that contain arsenal, united or chelsea. they only have 5 groups left to slot in. their chances of meeting any of bayern, madrid, barca, etc is ridiculously high thus their poor showing in europe.

the fact that you are even comparing dortmund(champions league winner) to man city tells me you are not very good with cognitive reasoning. i still dunno how you made it out of secondary school with such low level brain power

Malaga PSG and Monaco dont have a mental block, They all made it out of the groups at first attempt which City couldnt
they have less groups to avoid. no french club is seeded. malaga has only barca & madrid to avoid. it's self explanatory but your foolishness isn't even letting you see. liverpool & city will always suffer because of their unseeded status.
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