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Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by honourhim: 10:58pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
plaetton: Do you know that Catholic church contributes to the development of this country in some ways? Ok it is when they support nonsense that you will clap for them? You dey try. |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by honourhim: 11:00pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
hifaif: lies |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by theunusualmoon(m): 11:00pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777:. ............. Bro almost everything is paradoxical. you immerse a seed into the soil but it yields a tree that grows out of the soil in the opposite direction You come into the world young and crying but you leave old and smiling You put good smelling appetizing food in your mouth but.......am sure you know how it leaves your body. One minute its raining,the next minute the sun is out. Even the evolution you are talking about is very very very paradoxical. One minute an organism is harmless to humans but in a thousand years it becomes deadlier than ebola virus. ................ This is not to say I am cool with you saying GOD is paradoxical but I just gave you the above to make you understand this your "paradixical claim" is not enough excuse for you to be an atheist. 1 Like |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:02pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777:Lol. This dude! Let me play with this statement a little before reverting back to the main issue. If no generation can notice any micro changes due to speed, and micro changes result in macrochange, and macrochange is not permanent but many micro changes, how then do we know that their is Evolution? |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:02pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
honourhim: Tell us the truth, then. With evidence. 2 Likes |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by honourhim: 11:04pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
hifaif: Where are the evidences of your own point? |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:06pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
honourhim:Very good. Never in the course of this argument loose track of the subject matter. A sure way to avoid it is by allowing the atheist prove his points without mentioning God. 1 Like |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by urheme: 11:10pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777: Inconclusive nonsence, complicated trash, evolution theory is vague and a fat lie. From the fossils you are talking about, can you in an orderly manner arrange the organisms, starting from the singlar cell,which one first and which is last for now. Evolution is the only aspect of science i totally dissagree with if not i love all. 1 Like |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by krayzieklay(m): 11:10pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
@Op.. Are you just realizing that now? Anyways,hope you slept well? Pls,don't forget to wake others ( honourhim, Reyginus, urheme e.t.c) sleeping and snoring beside you. Thanks. |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by urheme: 11:16pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777: Aren't you some beauty, Very inspirational |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:19pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Reyginus: Through fossils. I don't get What is it u don't understand or Ar u just playing intellectual pranks? |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:22pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
theunusualmoon: I saw this coming. Those things you call paradoxical are not paradoxical. They have scientific explanation for those things u call paradox. Paradox is When we have two conflicting attributes in a single entity simultaneously. Like a square circle. 1 Like |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:23pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
honourhim: The Enlightenment was a sprawling intellectual, philosophical, cultural, and social movement that spread through England, France, Germany, and other parts of Europe during the 1700s. Enabled by the Scientific Revolution, which had begun as early as 1500, the Enlightenment represented about as big of a departure as possible from the Middle Ages—the period in European history lasting from roughly the fifth century to the fifteenth. The millennium of the Middle Ages had been marked by unwavering religious devotion and unfathomable cruelty. Rarely before or after did the Church have as much power as it did during those thousand years. With the Holy Roman Empire as a foundation, missions such as the Crusades and Inquisition were conducted in part to find and persecute heretics, often with torture and death. Although standard at the time, such harsh injustices would eventually offend and scare Europeans into change. Science, though encouraged in the late Middle Ages as a form of piety and appreciation of God’s creation, was frequently regarded as heresy, and those who tried to explain miracles and other matters of faith faced harsh punishment. Society was highly hierarchical, with serfdom a widespread practice. There were no mandates regarding personal liberties or rights, and many Europeans feared religion—either at the hands of an unmerciful God or at the hands of the sometimes brutal Church itself. The Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment, however, opened a path for independent thought, and the fields of mathematics, astronomy, physics, politics, economics, philosophy, and medicine were drastically updated and expanded. The amount of new knowledge that emerged was staggering. Just as important was the enthusiasm with which people approached the Enlightenment: intellectual salons popped up in France, philosophical discussions were held, and the increasingly literate population read books and passed them around feverishly. The Enlightenment and all of the new knowledge thus permeated nearly every facet of civilized life. Not everyone participated, as many uneducated, rural citizens were unable to share in the Enlightenment during its course. But even their time would come, as the Enlightenment also prompted the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, which provided rural dwellers with jobs and new cities in which to live. http://m.sparknotes.com/history/european/enlightenment/context.html 5 Likes |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:27pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
urheme: Thanks |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:29pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
urheme: I am still studying evolution,not yet conclusive about it though. Even from my Op What I supported was abiogenesis not evolution. Although abiogenesis leads to evolution |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:33pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
krayzieklay: No one is sleeping beside me. |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by theunusualmoon(m): 11:34pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777:............ What is the scientific explanation for an organism that is harmless today but becomes harmful tomorrow.If not evolution? 1 Like |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Oduduwaboy(m): 11:38pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
@dapo777, religion has kept the black man subjugated to his environment whereas the other races have subjugated their environment through a proper application of scientific knowledge. While the European is landing space probes on comet Rosseta , the blackman is busy talking about a non-existent god and his afterlife! stop vexing yourself by discussing with these fake religionists, please! 2 Likes |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:40pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
theunusualmoon: Are u referring to Ebola? |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:41pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777:Let me help you here by making the question clearer. According to you, micro changes are responsible for macro changes which are not noticed because of the speed involved in the micro change. Also, by Evolution being continous, macro change keeps changing in the micro level before we get another change in the macro structure. In essence, we are witnessing NOW, a product of micro level change. Then you went ahead to suggest (you said all these things not me) that we will never witness the macro change a statement opposing your idea that what we are now is a biological change. So, I ask you, if no generation can witness any of this change then how then can we know that we are in an Evolution? You went ahead to suggest that it is through fossil records. The moment you said this, your entire began to shake again. You know why, if Evolution is continous, then as products of Evolution, we are witness to THIS evolution. I am still coming. Just handle this for now. |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:43pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Oduduwaboy: Abi ooo,just take a look at nairaland. We Nigerians are busy arguing on a paradoxical deity,instead of brainstorming together on how to effect a change. Anything that doesn't bring food to the table immediately isn't worth discussing in Nigeria. 3 Likes |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by theunusualmoon(m): 11:44pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777:.................... No! Not ebola but according to evolution metamorphoses is certain isnt it? |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by krayzieklay(m): 11:47pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777:Guy,clean your eyes wella now.. Three grown up men are still drooling and snoring beside you. A bowl of chilled water on their faces will do... lol 1 Like |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:49pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Reyginus: Ok I get you. Let me correct myself. We are witnessing evolution only on the micro level. The macro changes due to evolution is seen in fossils of predecessor of the modern animals we have now. Okay now? |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:52pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
theunusualmoon: Ok So your point is? |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 11:53pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
krayzieklay: Lol go to jokes section |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by krayzieklay(m): 11:55pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Dapo777: Looolz... Man gas wack na. But you sef follow indirectly o... See the fake news you put as your signature in other to generate traffic.. |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 12:00am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Dapo777:Let's move on from where we paused. Do you think that the evolution of every biological entity started together at a definite time or that they started differently? To even make it clearer, when it happens in a specie does it begin simultaneously or differently? Good Night. |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by plaetton: 12:01am On Nov 14, 2014 |
honourhim: And what exactly do they contribute that cannot be gotten without them? Is their so-called contribution to development a sort of blood money as a recompense for the havoc they have wrecked on our cultures and identity? 2 Likes |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 12:02am On Nov 14, 2014 |
krayzieklay: Na the way be that Na |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by Nobody: 12:05am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Reyginus: I am not in the right position to answer that question, whatever I give as an answer would only be speculative. |
Re: I Now Believe Religion and our mentality Is Hindering Nigeria Progress. by plaetton: 12:09am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Reyginus: Oh please! What are the countries of prosperity do you see this same religion practiced in the manner it is practiced in Nigeria? Our main concern here is why do we stubbornly refuse to let go when even those that brought the crap to us have relegated it to the realms myth ? I still cannot understand why an African adamantly believes that Jesus is real, died for him, loves him, and is coming back with his space rocket to take him to the darkside of the moon, while the jewish people whose forefathers witnessed the events of 1st century Palestine , say bullshyte. If the Jews don't buy the crap, no African should be buying it this post-enlightenment era. 4 Likes |
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