₦airaland Forum

princeomorh:
so after those dat are employed to assemble d stoves are tru and they are paid,wot will happen? Wunt they go back to dier house? Is dat employment?fG,FEC,PDP and all those behind dis idea all need deliverance!

InglishTeechar:
Yes they should go home and invest the money in trade or something, i know people like you are the ones that get paid and eat all your wages, then you look for someone to cry to when money finish, Foolish people.

InglishTeechar:
Only fools believe talking alone will bring change not action. To what benefit has your profession been to this nation? what have you done with ur said profession to the development of Nigeria? what innovation have u come up with? i believe you wont have an answer to this question because your idea and your fathers idea is to send you to school, graduate and become a slave to a company. After all u earn a salary that can feed ur little family...and that will continue for the rest of your generation, read the book "rich dad, poor dad" to get my point fool.

horpe132:
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Nigeria Economy is in Trouble................But sheybi they said Okonjo Iwela has PHD in Econs,,,,,,,,Can't she advise the FG that that Stove will/can never be well maintained by the target population................& that importation of everything is not good for us especially now d@ the dollar is murdering the Naira .........Those Stove are gona be imported From South Africa & Assembled here..........................When did FG start sharing STOVE ?......What happened to making our GAS affordable and accessible to those in the rural areas ?.................................Must we import ?.......Must we waste money ??..........Now how will those in the rural areas maintain this new technology when its even hard 4 them to maintain the conventional kerosene stove...................FG needs Deliverance !!!!

abbakacici:
Campaign money

skyp:
Campaign stove, share the stove for exchange of vote

symbian03:
Which headline is misleading? buying cooking stoves for people who can hardly afford to buy Garri? them go dey boil water drink abi? make
you reason abeg.

InglishTeechar:
And whose fault is that. Why wont they enrich their own economy when our useless youths would rather sit down and complain "jonathan dis, jonathan dat, ha his wife cannot speak english, oh he is clueless" and most of this useless youths cannot come up with something innovative to the onward development of this nation. Only action not words alone can change this country for the better.

Ask not wat your country will do for you, ask wat you will do for your country.

Haven said that, by now you should realize how stupid you are.

braine:
You still aren't making sense. I know what I've contributed personally to this country. Even if the youths aren't contributing/doing anything, what about the elderly ones? Everyone cannot be wrong at the same time!

You're actually the stoopid one here coz you haven't proven any point but to repeat the "Ask not wat your country will do for you, ask wat you will do for your country" bullshiiit. Even Life is about giving and taking; and not a one sided thing.

I should not even argue with you coz you're too myopic. Please Don't quote me again.

InglishTeechar:
What have u contributed moroon? nothing. Thats why you cant tell us. Useless people like you should be thrown to hell were your type belong.

Elcemento:
From an environmentalist's point of view,this gesture will reduce people's dependence on firewood,which in turn will reduce deforestation and put a stop to desertification.The beneficiaries are the poor people.If it's not well implemented is another case entirely.All in all,it's a nice gesture from the govt.

symbian03:
Hahaha... Bro, I don't have time for all these your big grammars. Do you not reside in Nigeria? we're talking about priorities here! 9BN for stoves? How about empowering those poor people so they can afford to buy and maintain a gas cooker instead? abeg abeg abeg

ypzilanti:
You are just a dimwit trying to sound smart and learned because u read one book.

Everyone lawful person in society contributes. Even though I am an entrepreneur not everyone is. Doctors contribute, teachers contribute etc. So long as you are doing your job well you are contributing to society.

Now tell me what the contribution of our rulers has been like and if this stove purchase is a good contribution.

Even the entrepreneurs are complaining so I dont think you are one.

horpe132:
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Nigeria Economy is in Trouble................But sheybi they said Okonjo Iwela has PHD in Econs,,,,,,,,Can't she advise the FG that that Stove will/can never be well maintained by the target population................& that importation of everything is not good for us especially now d@ the dollar is murdering the Naira .........Those Stove are gona be imported From South Africa & Assembled here..........................When did FG start sharing STOVE ?......What happened to making our GAS affordable and accessible to those in the rural areas ?.................................Must we import ?.......Must we waste money ??..........Now how will those in the rural areas maintain this new technology when its even hard 4 them to maintain the conventional kerosene stove...................FG needs Deliverance !!!!

ceaz4r:
GOD Bless you, please!!!

braine:
I will not reply you because of PROVERBS 26:4.

Ovamboland:
Countless stove and efficient cooking methods has been prototype by numerous indigenous companies, Addis Engineering, Techo-Quip, Advance -Tech and countless Nigerian fabricators and so many similar projects in polytechnics and universities.
Yet this clueless government will splash 9bn Naira to enrich the South African economy and leave our own designers, fabicators, and craftmen unappreciated.
What is in a stove? you can call a design contest by giving out specifications e.g design a stove that will use 50% less fuel ans produce 40% more heat and give out 95% less smoke. Same way US government will give specifications to it's defense contractors like produce fither planes that can active 100,000 Ft ceiling, top speed of mach 5 and range of 3000 miles while consuming 30% less fuel.

We know it is campaign material for PDP paid for by the FG, but is it too much to make it count? Call like 10 fabricator firms, attach a proffessor and researchers to each firm, give them matching grant of like 10 million naira, and 6 months time and see the wonder that will be produced plus the knowledge and know-how that will be resident in-country. The best 1 or 2 designs will then be standard specification to be masses produced by fabricators all over the country.That knowledge spurned by foresight will be available to develop other simple devices.
We keep displaying the fact that we are clueless people and are not hungry for development. I am sure even Ghana or Benin Republic will not throw away it's money like that.

Then 18000 wonder bags?! are we real ?

InglishTeechar:
entrepreneurs complain yet they still smile to the bank. would you start a house knowing you do not have the money to complete it.

i laugh at people like you because you seem to sound clueless. abi is it not this same country dangote became the richest man in africa and mrs alakija became the richest woman in africa? look around you and see people owning cars worth 1.5million yet we complain. if you want to see poverty first hand go to Sudan and you will thank God for being a Nigerian.

If you are serious about making it in Nigeria you will make it just like many young millionaires in this country because the opportunity is there, just dont expect a free ride. Think of it, if everybody makes it nobody will work for any reason. Gone are the days manna fall from heaven. Open your eyes and see opportunities and not failure.

Thank me later.

sholaeco:
These some of the review online. I think our government is sick
FALSE CLAIMS! Do not buy!
By Amy Carle - November 14, 2013
Amazon Verified Purchase
I cannot begin to tell you the magnitude of my disappointment in this product, the Wonderbag.
I had so much enthusiasm for this new product that seemed to be changing lives all over the world. I was even willing to pay the extremely expensive price for a product that was so dedicated and passionate about helping people. I try to be a very informed consumer. I like to make sure a product is high quality and economical, foremost. Since this company also claims their product is good for the environment and a worthy contribution to society, I believed I could not go wrong by the purchase of this product. In fact, the main reason for this purchase was to try it out, so that I could give them as gifts.
After making the purchase, I proceed to prepare for its arrival with all of the other necessary items I would need to create my first masterpiece of a meal, with joyful thoughts of impressing my large family. I imagined my family of seven all sitting around the table, savoring each bite of a delicious home cooked meal while discussing the possibilities of future meals and what a wonderful gift this product would make for our family and friends. It is good that I did try this product before giving it to anyone else. I would not want them to suffer the horrible events, physically, emotionally, and financially, that my family has suffered because of this product.
After reading many reviews on Amazon and visiting the company website to become more informed of this intriguing product, I finally made the decision to purchase the Wonderbag from Amazon on October 13, 2013. I did not own a pot that would be meet the appropriate requirements as quoted in the description of the product:
"Fits your home - Works with 2-9 Quart pots with short handles and lid; metal and cast iron work best"
Therefore, I also purchased an 8-quart stainless steel pot from Amazon on October 23, 2013. By this time, I had already received the Wonderbag. I was so excited to see it and looked through all the directions, following the guidelines for bringing the Wonderbag to life in 4 easy steps. Although I could hardly wait to use the product, I wanted to be sure I was doing everything correctly. I proceeded to search recipes and gather ingredients in anticipation of the inaugural meal using my incredible new Wonderbag! After reviewing the recipes in the enclosed Knorr pamphlet, I decide on the Homestyle Beef Stew. I had also purchased the Knorr concentrated homestyle beef stock, even though I felt the company is possibly teaming up with Wonderbag for their own profiteering agenda.
The day finally arrived when I had all the necessary ingredients for the first meal using my new Wonderbag. It was a perfect day, because we had a long weekend full of busy activities. After church on Sunday, November 3 2013, I washed my new stainless steel pot and lid. Then I carefully prepared the ingredients for our stew, following the recipe in the Knorr booklet, which came with my Wonderbag, exactly as described. I brought all the ingredients to a boil and then reduced the temperature to medium low. My family kept commenting on how good it smelled. When the 15-minute low simmer was over, I stirred the delicious smelling stew, replaced the lid on the pot, removed the pot from the stove, and placed it into the Wonderbag. Then, I place the Wonderbag cover on top of the pot and pulled the drawstring closed. Right away, I noticed a very odd burning smell. There were a few drips on the sides of the pot, so I assumed that a few drips landed on the stove top and that was where the smell was coming from. I checked to be sure I had turned off the stove, which I had. My family left the house for our afternoon activities, fully expecting to return to the house in about 4 hours with a delicious pot of home cooked stew waiting for us on our dining room table!
We returned home four hours later, expecting to smell delicious stew, upon entering the house. You cannot imagine our shock and dismay when we were overwhelm by the most disgusting burnt smell. It was so overwhelming that my family left the room while I proceed to investigate the cause. I first checked the stove to be sure nothing was left on. The stove was off. It was obvious the smell was coming from the dining room table. I carefully opened the Wonderbag to check on the food. The pot was still very hot and the food looked fine. I attempted to lift the pot out of the Wonderbag and shockingly it was stuck to the bottom. I pulled harder and the pot came loose. I could not believe my eyes at what I was looking at next! A giant whole, the exact size of the pot was burned all the way through the top layer of fabric and foam. The only thing left was the outer layer of fabric. When I lifted the Wonderbag up from the table a burned circle was left on my table! The fabric of the Wonderbag is melted to the bottom of my new stainless steel pot. The stew inside the pot was now burned on the bottom. I am still in shock over the events that have taken place! My husband I quickly examined all of the papers that had come with the Wonderbag and even the stainless steel pot. I did everything exactly has directed. There is not a single thing in the directions that warned us that this could happen. In fact, it is quite the contrary:
FALSE CLAIM:
"Because it is not on direct heat, it will never overcook or burn."
Even though the top of the stew looked fine, the burned taste had permeated the food and it was inedible. I had to throw out all the food, over $30 worth of ingredients. I had to open all the windows in my house to rid it of the horrible smell, wasting the electricity being used to heat my house.
FALSE CLAIM:
"It reduces toxic fumes which means less respiratory problems and other diseases, particularly in children."
I had to order take-out food for my famished family. This sounds so trite when I think of the poor families in underprivileged countries. The exact families I thought I was somehow helping, in my own small way. I had planned to help more. My dreams of buying more Wonderbags for families and friends is now squelched. My anticipation of spreading the word about this incredible new product is now ended.
"Buy One, Donate One: For every Wonderbag purchased in the US, one is donated to a family in need in Africa; Families in developing countries who use Wonderbags save up to 30% of their income otherwise spent on fuel for wood stoves."
All of the valuable time and resources invested, gone! My brand new stainless steel pot ruined! My dining room table ruined! My belief that I was going to help save my family money by investing in this product has actually cost me more.
FALSE CLAIM:
"No Plugs, No fuss - Cooks your food, unplugged, by retaining the heat from an initial simmer on the stove; Perfect for the holidays when stove, freezer and counter space are at a premium."
Everything that the Wonderbag website claims is false. There are no warnings about temperature of the pot.
I have attempted to contact the company but have received no response. This company is not based in the USA. The only contact information available for a USA purchase is an e-mail address. There is no phone number or mailing address!


I was excited to receive the bag, as we want to have as small a carbon footprint as possible. I also wanted to write a review of the product.

I prepared the bag as per instructions.

I followed the recipe book to cook beef stew, leaving out the vegetables for simplicity. I wanted to see if it would cook my regular recipe which I start on the stove top and finish in the oven. After 4 1/2 hours in the bag, I opened the bag to find a slightly warm pot containing partially raw beef.

No returns on this scam bag.



This is essentially a haybox, but more expensive, and less durable. Fifty dollars to purchase a couple pieces of foam seems like too much. I have a friend who bought one of these and it is not really something I can see standing up to hard use at all. I am also concerned about the possibility of plastics and related chemicals leeching into hot foods. Does this bag contain Bisphenol A?

I guess people will continue to buy them because it gives them the illusion that they are somehow helping the poor. Thinking you are helping is much better and easier than actually helping.


Following the instructions, I tried it on 2 occasions cooking the first meal & putting it in the wonderbag for about 9-10 hrs, & 7-8 hrs the second time. The meat wasn't fully cooked, & it was only luke-warm at best so to avoid salmonella we had to discard the food. I spent $57 on this, hoping to be able to use this in preparing meals, & at the same time help someone in Africa;.


I am a little annoyed with the marketing of this product. My grandmother cooked like this, for example rice, just by putting the pot with the rice in her bed for 2 hours. A bed is not as portable, but $50 cheaper
African people always used similar ways, for example by cooking and keeping things warm in holes. Maybe some Africans need an reminder of these very old techniques, but I do not think that they need some plasic insulated bag that will add to their garbage problem The "African" lady in this marketing picture has an electrical stove hmmm.



Is it a slow cooker that conserves heat? yes. Does it do its job well? again, yes.

The problem? Slow cooking is, inherently, an inefficient means of cooking. You may have been led to think it was some saving grace to all across africa that are afflicted with energy problems.

The problem is that a pressure cooker can cook the exact same meals FAR more efficiently than any slow cooker. In fact, it is already the primary means of cooking such dishes in africa, as well as other blooming countries like india.

It tries to fill in a niche that is already well taken care of. Frankly, the only reason I would recommend this product is if you wanted to help make some african woman's cliche dream of wealth come true.


glorified travel bag. Doesn't cook will keep it warm but cook? I would not trust my food in it. Not something I would spend my time with. Slow cooker is so much safer. But if that isn't an option, I guess this might be the answer for you but then again if you can't use a slow cooker, I wonder how you are using a computer to read this and order one just wondering.


we tried this in Uganda and it did not work. So sad because we thot this would be a good way for our young mothers and widows to cook and save money on charcoal.

Hay boxes are not a new invention. Indeed they've been around for at least a century by that name and longer in one form or another. Put hot food in the hay box, the insulation keeps the heat in and the food cooks without more heat. Virtually every person in the 3rd world could be taught to make one from materials to hand - some brick / plastic / wooden / cardboard for the box container and paper, rags, blankets, polystyrene, grass etc as the insulation to pack around the pot. It can be made from scraps.

This is the sort of self sufficiency that countries should be teaching people instead of waiting on handouts from companies who're guilt tripping Amazon customers who would be better off buying a slow cooker. If you have the electricity to be browsing Amazon then you have the electricity to run a slow cooker. It cooks food better. It's safer (food cooks at a high temperature). It stores in less space. It only costs cents to run.

Or build your own haybox. You could improvise one in about 5 minutes. e.g. take an empty cardboard box, stuff a pillow in the bottom, put the pot in, put another pill on top, make sure it's tight and snug and close the box. Voila, a "wonderbox".

This is fine of you are just transporting food from one place to another, but you have to do most of the cooking before you even put the food in the bag. By then you might a well finish it and just eat it.

Omooba77:
The Federal Executive Council on Wednesday approved the purchase of N9.2billion worth of clean cook stoves and wonder bags for rural women under the National Clean Cooking Scheme.

Wonder bag is a non-electric slow cooker invented by Sarah Collins, ‎a south African eco-entreprenuer, who came up with the idea six years ago during a power cut, when she decided to keep her dinner cooking by surrounding the pan with cushions.

The council also awarded a contract of N60.9billion to an indigenous firm, KaKatar CE Limited, for the provision of engineering infrastructure for Kyami District, Zone C, Abuja.

Supervising Minister of Information, Dr. Nurudeen Muhammed; Minister of Environment, Mrs. Lawrecia Mallam; and Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Senator Bala Muhammed, briefed State House correspondents at the end of the meeting presided over by Vice President Namadi Sambo.

Muhammed said the N9.2billion inclusive of Value Added Tax was approved for the procurement of 750,000 units of clean cook stove and 18,000 wonder bags.

He said the stoves are expected to be delivered by Messrs Integra Renewable Energy Services Limited within a period of 12 weeks.

He noted that the stoves which will be assembled locally, will provide jobs to Nigerians among other benefits.

The minister said, “The National Clean Cooking Scheme is an aggressive drive to engender clean cooking culture amongst the poor rural women, to reduce and possibly eliminate cooking with solid fossil which is detrimental to health.

“The scheme is expected to provide 20 million clean stoves over a five-year period at the rate of four million stoves yearly which will be distributed without charge.

“It will also reduce incessant felling of trees which exposes the country to ecological problems.

Source: http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-to-buy-cooking-stoves-with-n9-2bn/

InglishTeechar:
Then you dont have the right to be critical of what the government is doing.

You are not ashamed to admit you dont have anything positive to contribute to the development of this country yet you open your rotten mouth to abuse the government. Shame on you.

People like you should be thrown to hell, you are useless here.

omenka:
Even in the face of dwindling revenues, this government just can't put an end to its squandermania. Stoves for 9Billion and you say Jonathan knows how to run an economy!! I guess when the cloud of this shiitstorm they are gathering breaks and starts to rain, they wouldn't go looking for whom to blame.

This is just madness.

Ovamboland:
Countless stove and efficient cooking methods has been prototype by numerous indigenous companies, Addis Engineering, Techo-Quip, Advance -Tech and countless Nigerian fabricators and so many similar projects in polytechnics and universities.
Yet this clueless government will splash 9bn Naira to enrich the South African economy and leave our own designers, fabicators, and craftmen unappreciated.
What is in a stove? you can call a design contest by giving out specifications e.g design a stove that will use 50% less fuel ans produce 40% more heat and give out 95% less smoke. Same way US government will give specifications to it's defense contractors like produce fither planes that can active 100,000 Ft ceiling, top speed of mach 5 and range of 3000 miles while consuming 30% less fuel.

We know it is campaign material for PDP paid for by the FG, but is it too much to make it count? Call like 10 fabricator firms, attach a proffessor and researchers to each firm, give them matching grant of like 10 million naira, and 6 months time and see the wonder that will be produced plus the knowledge and know-how that will be resident in-country. The best 1 or 2 designs will then be standard specification to be masses produced by fabricators all over the country.That knowledge spurned by foresight will be available to develop other simple devices.
We keep displaying the fact that we are clueless people and are not hungry for development. I am sure even Ghana or Benin Republic will not throw away it's money like that.

Then 18000 wonder bags?! are we real ?