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Hndholder:
We already set up a committee.

Pls still help us send ur contribution to the secretary.

I promised

Hndholder:
I promised

any update?

House not settle but I have sent in

Hndholder:
House not settle but I have sent in

Ok sir. That's good.

No be mouth oooo
Can any one with BSC Challenge mi here?

Hndholder:
What is a Polytechnic?
Poly (many); Technique (method, system, practice, procedure, performance, skill).
A polytechnic, or polytechnic institute is actually a university by another name- a technological university.
The world’s first polytechnic, the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (1824) in Troy, New York, has focused precisely on this mission and this has enabled it to contribute significantly to America’s technological development. Polytechnics from their earliest progenitor, the Rensselaer Polytechnic, have aimed to turn out mostly technology, business, management and entrepreneurial graduates. Polytechnics use essentially a hands-on approach to learning, and focus on solving society’s pressing socio-economic-environmental challenges and exploring industrial and commercial opportunities. Another polytechnic worth mentioning in this regard is the Kiev Polytechnic Institute, the Ukraine (also known as Kiev National Technical University). This polytechnic was virtually responsible, through the pioneering efforts of its students and staff for launching the Old Soviet Union into space, by developing experimental gliders, aircraft engines, helicopters, planes, turbine and rocket technology, and aeronautics. In the process, it helped to make the Soviet Union and Russia dominant players in the space technology, a vital and profitable leverage that country still retains today. The name Dmitry Mendeleyev (inventor of the Periodic Table) is well known to all students of Chemistry, just as Igor Sikorsky is well known for the development of the helicopter; Sergei Korolev designer of Jet Engines. All of these high achievers came out of the Kiev Polytechnic.
Across the globe polytechnics have been invaluable in the development of the modern industrial economy. Polytechnic educational pedagogy emphasizes the training of the mind and the hands, and coordinated use of both in the teaching and learning process.

In Nigeria, we have erroneously set up an educational system with a self-contradictory philosophy pedagogy but this does not in itself make the path Nigeria will toe to become developed any different. On the one hand, it declares lofty ideals about creating a dynamic and developed economy, equal citizenship, etc whilst at the same time it places huddles in the way of a size able segment of its citizenry- those who choose to follow the technical education route to transforming the country. It indoctrinates one segment of the education system into believing that idle theorizing will lead to national development, and promotes this thinking to the zenith as a national policy. This is a great disservice that does not stand up to common sense.
what a person knows if one does nothing with that knowledge; what counts in the final analysis is what we do with what we know. This ability to take action is what separates men from the animal world. Education has one often unstated and under-emphasized purpose: effective action/usable results (Daniyan 2008).

Best post so far...this should explain and enlighten everyone

Oduleke:
Frm my perspective, syllabi is d cause.if u ask any1 wu has gone tru poly edu b4 dat of uni,(s)he is goin 2 tell u dt they are nt cmparable ONLY in term of syllabi structure, frm xperience,20pages of a lecture/course title note in a poly will turn to b of 50pages or more in a uni, ds is due to d xperience of d LECTURERS.(a prof/ph.doctor cmpared to an hnd/a b.sc hlder.MIND U,U CAN ONLY GV OUT WAT U AV&U CAN NT GV OUT WAT U DONT AV.
Am a student of poly ibd

We have lecturers with educational qualifications like those in universities in polytechnic also. Maybe syllabus/syllabi sha.

Not so it was a struggle for the available jobs then in the ministry.

I was in the polytechnic and university. I saw it all, nothing made the university more superior. You were born to meet this and made to see water down things. It is all politics.

Everyone was jumping for joy as if it is automatically that HND will get up to Grade Level 17 in the public service.Nigerians have grossly misunderstood the pronouncement made by the Federal Executive Council on the controversial HND and BSc dichotomy.This is despite wide held belief that the dichotomy has been abolished and the holders of the two certificates would henceforth enjoy same privileges.

The Head of the Civil Service of the Federation (HoCSF), Mrs. Winifred Oyo-Ita, disclosed this where she presented her three-year scorecard.

Kano govt. abolishes HND, BSc dichotomy
Gradually HND will become unpopular. If they like let them keep discrimination for ever Baruanah!

The reason for this discrimination not to have been abolish by fg is that there are people who are eating, feeding and earning millions of naira from this discrimination ..


for only ppl that knows.

The united kingdom that started the award of HND removed it in 1992 ..
What did do turned the polytechnic to colleges and universities. and abide the use of university curriculum how is that hard to do in Nigeria.

Check the facilities they have and the courses they can do with them .then remove the ones they can't ..

Polytechnic is just a waste of time for the student and waste of money for the Government.

BREAKING: FG terminates HND/Degree discriminationPublished 19 hours ago on May 14, 2019 By Felix Onajite

There was jubilation in some government agencies on Tuesday, May 14, as the federal government terminated the dichotomy between the Higher National Diploma and university degrees. The end of the discrimination affects all the services under the ministry of interior. The agencies affected are the Nigeria Security and Civil Defence Corps (NSCDC), Nigeria Immigration Service (NIS), Nigeria Prisons Service (NPS) and Federal Fire Service (FFS).

Daily Trust reports that before now, personnel with HND certificates were employed into the inspectorate cadre while those with Barchelor’s degree certificate are in the superintendent cadre. The new policy now has HND holders being in the same superintendent cadre like their counterparts from the universities. A statement by the secretary to the civil defence, fire, immigration and prisons services board, Al-Hassan Yakmut, confirmed the development adding that the approval came after a meeting on May 9 and 10.

“The board has constituted a technical committee to work out modalities for the implementation, including the harmonisation of ranks in accordance with the abolition,” he said.

polytechni:
HND/BSC
Nigerians are discriminating against themselves in every sector. There is no united vision at all. There is this feeling of someone, something inferior rather than doing something positive to improve all sectors concerned. If a problem arises, we should analyse the problems objectively. What brought about this problem or discrimination? What is the best way to remove the cause in the interest of the nation.
? Could there be a way of delimiting or correcting the inefficiency in the system or to bring it up to the expected level?

I am a Polytechnic graduate and I have had about 45% taste of the university, I have the belief that university is superior to polytechnics when we consider the levels of certificates that could be awarded e.g Msc, PHD. The polytechnics could only award HND as the maximum. It is not contestable that the higher degrees are beyond what polytechnics could award as at now, however improvements could bring about this in the future. The major issue is BSC VS HND. I don't consider this to be a problem at all. They both offer Nigerians the opportunity for manpower development. Employers are free to employ whoever they prefer

Why deceiving ourselves, both university and polytechnic graduates are Nigerians. No Nigerian should be prevented from reaching his/her full potential in academics. If a polytechnic graduate has the feeling of going for a degree course, let there be a fair entry point to continue without discrimination. Both of them are Nigerian institutions in which huge amount of money is being spent by the government yearly to maintain and improve.

Why running down ourselves and our institutions. Policy formulation comes into play here in that harmonization of courses to acceptable standards could be implemented and this will create fair and smooth transition/entry levels from any college or polytechnic to university. Even with better policy some polytechnics may be able to award degrees if they satisfy the required National standard.

We don't behave as if we are one at all. Whatever affects another person invariably should be taken seriously by the other. We are all selfish to the detriment of our national goals.

I as a person, want the integrity of our BSC degee to be retained , also HND should not be treated in isolation but be encouraged as the qualification of significant respect in Nigeria which the holder should be proud of, with open opportunities to take up gainful employment or proceed for a degree or Msc courses.

This should be the objective of our education policy in Nigeria today.


In UK you don't have to spend 4 years in the university to earn a degree. Most of the courses in polytechnics, colleges and vocational training and Diplomas count towards your obtaining a degree.

For instance, HND is a 2 year course which counts towards your obtaining a year 2 level for a degree in the said course. After your HND, you only need to study for a year[ level 3 degree courses] to obtain a degree. Sometimes there are subject for subject exceptions.

Also, a level 5 diploma in health and social course which you can obtain without going to a college or university but on the job assessment and training counts towards your degree. Hence for someone who has not attended the conventional schools but satisfies the national requirements could bag a degree after about a year of study in a university.

ACCA, CIB, CIMA members have specific one year courses tailored for their need which when such holder studies, he or she will be awarded a Msc


CONCLUSION: HND holders are Nigerians and the policy should address their concerns and needs among others. There is no point to compare HND to Degre or vice versa, they should be mutually inclusive. They should complement each other for the benefit of nigeria

For Bsc holders I say congratulations. For HND holders who feel confident enough I say congratulations. For the HND holders who are facing discrimination, I will say well done, you should realize you are a part of Nigeria and please don't forget neglect, mismanagement, discrimination, lack of national goal/vision, everyone for himself etc are common place in Nigeria today. Please brace up yourselves and look for available opportunities without letting yourselves down to any close system.. A NATION THAT IS DIVIDED AGAINST HERSELF

Thanks

God bless you

DESAMSAMO:
God bless you

You seems not to know the dichotomy about this deadly disease called HND