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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:30pm On Dec 05, 2014
elampiro:
If Moyes created injury crisis for Manchester United that is affecting us today,

1. How come Everton did not have injury crisis when Moyes left?

2. Everton players were the most energetic and athletic in the EPL during Moyes time there.
53 injuries in one calendar year under moyes. everton are the most energetic & athletic indeed. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 10:31pm On Dec 05, 2014
elampiro:
RIP.
cheesy grin cheesy grin

You dey craze I swear
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:31pm On Dec 05, 2014
coogar:
liar!
"david moyes has always had a fit squad at everton."

you must think this is facebook where you can lie to get likes. grin cheesy
Oga good night. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:34pm On Dec 05, 2014
elampiro:
Oga good night. cheesy
E no reach him bele o, e go still comment
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:46pm On Dec 05, 2014
elampiro:
Only RVP complained of Moyes training methods during his reign. Under Gaal many f the injuries were from training. Particularly at the early stage before we bought players.

In terms of injuries, Gaal has no excuse. He always had a decent starting XI as compared to Moyes. Any coach who has the luxury of keeping Mata, Herrera, Carrick, Falcao , Januzaj and Fletcher on th bench is a lucky coach.

I haven't the stat for Kean. I am not dispose for that now.
another big lie unearthed.
how many times can a nigga lie to sway points his way? grin cheesy only RVP complained about training methods last season?

haaaaa shocked shocked shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SetrakusRa(m): 10:48pm On Dec 05, 2014
elampiro:
RIP.
grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SetrakusRa(m): 10:51pm On Dec 05, 2014
Leyqute:
E no reach him bele o, e go still comment
For where? Just wait for some article in this argument criticize Rooney or Hazard, then, new batch of text book sized epistles will roll in.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 11:04pm On Dec 05, 2014
Elampiro dey burst my head for this thread ooo, carry on !!!!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:14am On Dec 06, 2014
elampiro:
RIP.
LMAO....e b like say u catch am for that one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:28am On Dec 06, 2014
elampiro:
Not disputing the fact that Gaal is better. I saw Gaal's team in the wold cup. I saw the Ajax of '95 and '96. I know he is technical guru. But my argument is different. My argument is not about who is the better coach. I stated this many weeks ago.

The fist argument some weeks back was about too many injuries in the team. The new issue which called me into this, is when some guys wont allow us hear word every time we won. There was no need telling us about how Moyes would probably have lost to Stoke blablabla. This argument was further prolong when some recent crisis were blamed on Moyes.
No elampiro.
You seem to be getting this mixed up.
After we lost to City, some United fans (which is actually ironic considering how intelligent I feel they are as compared to some other people) started jumping on the media band wagon because of the points tally compared to Moyes tenure at that point last year. Won't name names, they know themselves.
Some of us pointed out the obvious: our playing style was better, and with particular reference to that corresponding fixture last year a few of us them that there was clear progress.
The funny thing is that people from other clubs who cannot remember the last time they won a league title started talking about £160million. And those same United fans started jumping on that bandwagon.
The same United fans who were having erec.t.ions after the US preseason tour suddenly forgot the glowing tributes they paid then and started aligning with London via Poly.
Part of van Gaal's troubles have to be attributed to the injury crisis. I dont care what anybody says. He has been largely unfortunate with them because a good n u mber of them have been on the pitch rather than training induced as compared to Moyes. The only training injuries would be Falcao's and maybe Jones. Correct me if im wrong. You and I see the injuries that take place every other game. We start asking who will be next to succumb because it is really that bad. And to me that has been the issue.

Maybe ramdeuter/dayokanu can help clear this matter but I do not seem to remember anybody complaining about van Gaal's training methods. Correct me if im wrong.David Moyes is known to emphasize physical over tactical development hence some of the injuries during his tenure. We never saw anything positive arising from moyes tenure. I just pity those Sociedad boys. Dem go hear am.

I do not agree with van Gaal over some things, e.g. his double-standard in my view over the sending offs of Smalling and Rooney and how he chose to handle them as well as handing the captaincy to Rooney.He was severely criticized by a number of us who felt the 3-5-2 he was trying to impose was not working. So I dont get it when peeps say he is not getting criticized.

But trust the Niger Poly Kontangora crew who just want to type whether or not they are saying anything. Their coach went trophiless last year and their excuse is that he didnt come to win last year despite evidence to the contrary. A few positive results and suddenly their "mantra" has changed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist:
When I call starboard Mr Me-too or Captain follow-follow, he will come here and start crying like an Ashy during Ebola crisis....yet the guy is not even intelligent enough to think of his own 'insults'!!!

Poly this, Poly that...and the ediot doesn't actually even get the joke...but that's a different story.

Anyway, the facts are very clear.

1. Van Gaal has only 3 points more than Moyes at this stage of the season

2. The 4 match winning streak has been the best run of form so far this season, yet the FANS HAVE COMPLAINED BITTERLY ABOUT THE STANDARD OF PLAY THROUGHOUT

3. David De Gea has been the Man of the Match TWICE in the last 4 games. That alone is a damning indictment on the 'improved play' movement. Unless of course, you want to attribute the individual brilliance of DDG to Van Gaal's tactical acumen.

4. Van Gaal's less than sterling performance has been attributed to injuries. Elampiro has now shown that Moyes actually had more injuries to cope with during his tenure.


Starboard has been looking for my attention on this thread, like a Festac girl flashing her white pant whenever 2baba drives by.

I have said severally that I can't argue with the table, and Ive hardly commented here recently, but whenever I browse this thread, I notice starboard throwing shade in all his recent posts.

The sad thing is starboard is too stuppid to argue against the articulated points up there, and will come and give us another dose of his pregnant-woman style emotional rants again.

I don't blame him though. Starboard's brain is like a car built by a roadside mechanic; he couldn't afford a full gearbox, so the car only has Gear 1 and Reverse

The implication of this is that, when you see starboard making sense, he is surely repeating someone else's logic, and when that logic is challenged he can't elevate the debate with a clever counter(Gear 1) or he reverts to parroting the same unoriginal line(Reverse)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 5:34am On Dec 06, 2014
All this re'tarded chelshit and ass_nal fans should get outta here!


We no win una dey complain


Now we are winning u say its just luck


Well I guess its all because u are re'tarded!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tval(m): 6:54am On Dec 06, 2014
mcfarlin:
All this re'tarded chelshit and ass_nal fans should get outta here!


We no win una dey complain


Now we are winning u say its just luck


Well I guess its all because u are re'tarded!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 6:54am On Dec 06, 2014
mcfarlin:
All this re'tarded chelshit and ass_nal fans should get outta here!


We no win una dey complain


Now we are winning u say its just luck


Well I guess its all because u are re'tarded!
One would think this thread got this far from sensible discussions held here but when you really follow the thread.. ull discover the aim of this thread has been lost and a bulk of the pages, most especially of recently are a bunch of useless arguments by supposed ppls fathers.. bunch of glory hunters claiming man u fans since the 18th century arguing about things that add no knowledge to them or anyone else around them.. off to bleacher report or dailymail. ill be back when one of the sensible ones comment again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:37am On Dec 06, 2014
joeace2020:
One would think this thread got this far from sensible discussions held here but when you really follow the thread.. ull discover the aim of this thread has been lost and a bulk of the pages, most especially of recently are a bunch of useless arguments by supposed ppls fathers.. bunch of glory hunters claiming man u fans since the 18th century arguing about things that add no knowledge to them or anyone else around them.. off to bleacher report or dailymail. ill be back when one of the sensible ones comment again.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:48am On Dec 06, 2014
Nihilist:
When I call starboard Mr Me-too or Captain follow-follow, he will come here and start crying like an Ashy during Ebola crisis....yet the guy is not even intelligent enough to think of his own 'insults'!!!

Poly this, Poly that...and the ediot doesn't actually even get the joke...but that's a different story.

Anyway, the facts are very clear.

1. Van Gaal has only 3 points more than Moyes at this stage of the season

2. The 4 match winning streak has been the best run of form so far this season, yet the FANS HAVE COMPLAINED BITTERLY ABOUT THE STANDARD OF PLAY THROUGHOUT

3. David De Gea has been the Man of the Match TWICE in the last 4 games. That alone is a damning indictment on the 'improved play' movement. Unless of course, you want to attribute the individual brilliance of DDG to Van Gaal's tactical acumen.

4. Van Gaal's less than sterling performance has been attributed to injuries. Elampiro has now shown that Moyes actually had more injuries to cope with during his tenure.


Starboard has been looking for my attention on this thread, like a Festac girl flashing her white pant whenever 2baba drives by.

I have said severally that I can't argue with the table, and Ive hardly commented here recently, but whenever I browse this thread, I notice starboard throwing shade in all his recent posts.

The sad thing is starboard is too stuppid to argue against the articulated points up there, and will come and give us another dose of his pregnant-woman style emotional rants again.

I don't blame him though. Starboard's brain is like a car built by a roadside mechanic; he couldn't afford a full gearbox, so the car only has Gear 1 and Reverse

The implication of this is that, when you see starboard making sense, he is surely repeating someone else's logic, and when that logic is challenged he can't elevate the debate with a clever counter(Gear 1) or he reverts to parroting the same unoriginal line(Reverse)

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:06am On Dec 06, 2014
Another £200m for January Transfers. Hehe. GGMU.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 11:28am On Dec 06, 2014
suxxman:
Another £200m for January Transfers. Hehe. GGMU.
If you believe this , you also believe your mom knows who fathered you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 11:34am On Dec 06, 2014
leggo:
If you believe this , you also believe your mom knows who fathered you.
huh
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 12:18pm On Dec 06, 2014
leggo:
If you believe this , you also believe your mom knows who fathered you.
please speak in Swahili.. i don't understand English

Actually tabling such amount for January is possible... the only impossibility is Strootman, Hummels, Robben and Godin all signing the paper at once. All i know is that the 'gaalaticos' train is moving and the fare is affordable.... just play exceptionally well and we'll come get u. Maybe oneday we wud unite messi and Ronaldo.. that will be orgasm1c
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:35pm On Dec 06, 2014
1. Van Gaal has only 3 points more than Moyes at this stage of the season
points don't matter, the positions on the table is the key. a mere 80 points won united the title in 10/11 season. a season later, 89 points did not win them the league title.

van gaal is 5 places above moyes' team at this stage last season. position is the key not the number of points. different number of points can win you the title, only one position guarantees you the league title.

2. The 4 match winning streak has been the best run of form so far this season, yet the FANS HAVE COMPLAINED BITTERLY ABOUT THE STANDARD OF PLAY THROUGHOUT
no fan has complained bitterly - fans have complained more on the injuries & the lack of consistency in the team selection forced by injuries.

3. David De Gea has been the Man of the Match TWICE in the last 4 games. That alone is a damning indictment on the 'improved play' movement. Unless of course, you want to attribute the individual brilliance of DDG to Van Gaal's tactical acumen.
de gea is an employee of man utd. he's paid to make saves. it doesn't matter who wins MOTMs....its a matter of opinion, no statistical facts are used to award MOTMs. why didn't de gea perform the same way for moyes?

4. Van Gaal's less than sterling performance has been attributed to injuries. Elampiro has now shown that Moyes actually had more injuries to cope with during his tenure.
nothing could be more untrue....

on the contrary, elampiro lied moyes' team has always been fitter throughout his managerial career in england. i was the one that brought the facts to the table that moyes had more injuries at united as at december 2013.

StarBoard: The same United fans who were having erec.t.ions after the US preseason tour suddenly forgot the glowing tributes they paid then and started aligning with London via Poly.
i want to know - who is the poly-londoner? grin cheesy nyabingo went to OAU/LAG for his first/second degrees and those 2 schools aren't polytechnics - besides, nyabingo has never seen the insides of a plane to even be the main suspect.

my friend, can you reveal this mystery man?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 12:57pm On Dec 06, 2014
Coogar I agree that the position in the log is key, and to be honest I have no interest in any silly argument when the table shows manyoo in 4th place...and I said as much many moons ago

But when Baba Go-Slow aka Captain Me too insists on constant shade throwing and ad hominems, then I have to come with it....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:04pm On Dec 06, 2014
Nihilist:
Coogar I agree that the position in the log is key, and to be honest I have no interest in any silly argument when the table shows manyoo in 4th place...and I said as much many moons ago

But when Baba Go-Slow aka Captain Me too insists on constant shade throwing and ad hominems, then I have to come with it....
nice!
over to the chelsea thread then....ayoze is waiting to impregnate your defence.

christ - chelsea named the same back 5 for the 10000th time this season & yet that nonsense airborn laser would tell us injuries are part of the game. remove ronaldo, bale & rodriguez from madrid & let's see if they won't feel their absence & drop to 6th position.

i envy chelsea's clean bill of health.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:07pm On Dec 06, 2014
leggo:
If you believe this , you also believe your mom knows who fathered you.
Better than you who your mum doesn't even know who fathered you.
Well, I'd pass on this one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:10pm On Dec 06, 2014
Na wao! I only said Moyes 18 injuries in 14 games on the average at Everton was decent. This has been twisted and twisted and re-twisted. I also said Everton was the most athletic team playing a very high tempo football. I said this since 2013 summer and I have often repeated it. Look at the pace of Distin at 36. He can play 38 EPL matches.

At this time last season, Moyes had played 14 EPL matches and 5 UCL matches. If we said he had more injuries while he executed these 19 matches, it further justifies any criticism of Gaal at this time (in the season).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 1:15pm On Dec 06, 2014
Louis van Gaal is set to allow his Man United players to have Christmas dinner with their families, before having them meet at the Red Devils’ team hotel for their Boxing Day clash with Newcastle United, report the Daily Mail.
Van Gaal, 63, recently revealed he was not happy with the traditional British festive football period, as it doesn’t allow him to see family and friends. However, according to the Mail, Van Gaal has organised training sessions around the players, so they are able to spend time with their families.

The Mail report that a number of Man United players are pleased with this decision, the report understands that Red Devils skipper Wayne Rooney is very happy with Van Gaal’s Christmas decision.

Man United face a tough Christmas test, with Van Gaal’s men facing Newcastle at Old Trafford on Boxing day, while two days later, they will travel down south to play Tottenham at White Hart Lane. Then on the first of January, the Red Devils have a tough away clash with Stoke City.
Read more at http://www.squawka.com/news/reports-louis-van-gaal-set-to-organise-christmas-day-training-around-man-united-players/239660#L7vOpsGBXfLdaSwv.99
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:39pm On Dec 06, 2014
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:41pm On Dec 06, 2014
Moyes had always done well in terms of injury. Martinez is doing poorly.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:47pm On Dec 06, 2014
The 2012/2013 table above is half season.
2014/2015 is updated to December 3.
2010/11 is full season. Updated May 22nd
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:21pm On Dec 06, 2014
Chai grin
leggo:
If you believe this , you also believe your mom knows who fathered you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:29pm On Dec 06, 2014
joeace2020:
One would think this thread got this far from sensible discussions held here but when you really follow the thread.. ull discover the aim of this thread has been lost and a bulk of the pages, most especially of recently are a bunch of useless arguments by supposed ppls fathers.. bunch of glory hunters claiming man u fans since the 18th century arguing about things that add no knowledge to them or anyone else around them.. off to bleacher report or dailymail. ill be back when one of the sensible ones comment again.
We are on page 1256. Show us any sensible post you have made from page 0 to now. After you have learnt so many things you never knew from soccer over several augments and pages, you come back to criticize.

It was arguments that brought out how transfer fees are arrived at. It was arguments that brought out how opta arrived at their players and team ratings using hundreds index. I know for sure that over 80% of the arguments have brought out something new for sure. It was from argument we knew how injury cheated us in the title chase of 2009/10 and 2011/12

Your post above is just an ITK.

If I may ask, what is the main of the thread?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 2:39pm On Dec 06, 2014
coogar:
points don't matter, the positions on the table is the key. a mere 80 points won united the title in 10/11 season. a season later, 89 points did not win them the league title.

van gaal is 5 places above moyes' team at this stage last season. position is the key not the number of points. different number of points can win you the title, only one position guarantees you the league title.



no fan has complained bitterly - fans have complained more on the injuries & the lack of consistency in the team selection forced by injuries.



de gea is an employee of man utd. he's paid to make saves. it doesn't matter who wins MOTMs....its a matter of opinion, no statistical facts are used to award MOTMs. why didn't de gea perform the same way for moyes?



nothing could be more untrue....

on the contrary, elampiro lied moyes' team has always been fitter throughout his managerial career in england. i was the one that brought the facts to the table that moyes had more injuries at united as at december 2013.



i want to know - who is the poly-londoner? grin cheesy nyabingo went to OAU/LAG for his first/second degrees and those 2 schools aren't polytechnics - besides, nyabingo has never seen the insides of a plane to even be the main suspect.

my friend, can you reveal this mystery man?
Brilliant, do not mind these foolish moyes sympathisers I almost died of heart attack last season. Below is a comparison
Etoo scoring a hat trick. Ivanovic panickingand getting sent off as we draw with the league leaders


Man city destroying us home and away. Man city beating us 1-0 and still cowering in fear of 10 men, how many teams have forced City to defend a 1 goal lead this season.

A fourth position maintenance for 2 mins. We have been fourth for three weeks and come monday we may be third.




My opinion though. grin
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