AugustineAgain:


Chibok is 30 minutes drive from Chad and Cameroon
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So are you telling me that NAF didn't have any Jets or Helicopters equipped with Thermal or Night Vision on stand by, just in case something extremely f*cked up happens.

The North is an obvious hotstop, I don't mean to sound like and expert on everything but you guys had plenty of helicopters back then, making sure that a couple of you S.F members are always on stand by and to have one or two choppers ready two provide support would be the most logical thing to do in an area like that.

Henry120:


I've posted multiple news sources on the ground, Reuters and all, and none of them corroborates that story.

All news sources on the ground in the CAR say you waved the white flag.

Consult the archives.

How deadly CAR battle unfolded:
By Helmoed Römer Heitman (a Janes correspondent, as i have it you Nigerians claim that Jane's is the most credible of all websites.)
www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-deadly-car-battle-unfolded-1.1493841#.VIoSVNKUfIS

AugustineAgain:


South African SF involvement in Lesotho coup plotting civil unrest? Is that a war? Lesotho?

Nigerian MOPOL police sqaud with their BTR-3U APC and 14.5mm guns can easily handle that !
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Lesotho is more powerful than Boko harm.

ActivateKruger:


Rolands are obsolete crap, prone to the Gripen's EW... your fairytale T-72s would be all chowed with easy.

SANDF could not last one day facing outdated Seleka rifles, canon, and rusted RPG.

Sure you won't go near a T-72 war zone, SANDF has learnt it's lesson for life !
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AugustineAgain:


You said SF, not SAP TF
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Did anyone mention the SF in Lesotho besides you... these Nigerians.

jln115:

Lesotho is more powerful than Boko harm.

If that is true, there won't be any South Africa existing today. Ordinary Rhino horn thieves defeated you 50 million man population of cowards
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jln115:

How deadly CAR battle unfolded:
By Helmoed Römer Heitman (a Janes correspondent, as i have it you Nigerians claim that Jane's is the most credible of all websites.)
www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-deadly-car-battle-unfolded-1.1493841#.VIoSVNKUfIS

Old story bursted here in 2013. Propaganda.

Reason why Janes magazine did NOT attach itself to it, they put the South African writers name there to show source.

Was the Helmot man on that battlefield in Bangui?

Let him show us Seleka dead bodies, or Seleka funeral, or Seleka graves, or names listed of Seleka men who died.

ZERO evidence of a single dead Seleka. 100% evidence of 15 dead SANDF.

We know about South African army white flag made with a white pant tied to barrel of R4 rifle, waving flag....I love that song
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AugustineAgain:


So that the Alpha jet can bomb all the Bokos and the 300 Chibok girls together right? Then BBC will come and video burnt bodies of the girls right? Then Amnesty International will give NAF best performing air force award right? Surely President Goodluck Jonathan will win 2014 Nobel price for Common Sense, right?

See the damage South African education has done to your already naturally low I.Q.

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Dude you really do like letting your emotions cloud your judgement to the point that you can't even think straight.

Where did I say that your jets should have bombed them, I merely mentioned jets and Helicopters using thermal vision to track them, @ActivateKruger said that you couldn't even track down 300 girls, and I responded by saying that I was shocked when it happened because the heat produced by more then 300 hundred people would be clearly visible when using Thermal vision if you tried to track them using a jet or a chopper.
Dude are you so slow that we need to break down everything to its most fundamental aspects just for you to understand.

You keep bragging about having a higher form of intellect, and how superior you are, yet you can not even comprehend the most simplest of comments, you seriously lack the ability to understand what you're reading, you jump to conclusions without trying to understand what we've written.

AugustineAgain:


Old story bursted here in 2013. Propaganda.

Reason why Janes magazine did NOT attach itself to it, they put the South African writers name there to show source.

Was the Helmot man on that battlefield in Bangui?

Let him show us Seleka dead bodies, or Seleka funeral, or Seleka graves, or names listed of Seleka men who died.

ZERO evidence of a single dead Seleka. 100% evidence of 15 dead SANDF.

We know about South African army white flag made with a white pant tied to barrel of R4 rifle, waving flag....I love that song
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www.africandefence.net/five-things-you-never-knew-about-the-south-african-military/

"44 Parachute Battalion and Special Forces fought thousands of rebels in the CAR and survived
During the March 2013 attack and subsequent coup by Seleka rebels in the CAR, SANDF soldiers were involved in a rather famous battle in the capital city of Bangui. This much is well-known. What is less well-known, however, is that although 15 soldiers died in the battle, enemy casualty estimates range from a low 600 to a high 2000.
Briefly-captured soldiers reported seeing a warehouse full of bodies soon after the battle. By its end, the paratroopers and Special Forces involved in the Battle of Bangui had fought overwhelming numbers and not only survived, but effectively brought Seleka to the point where the only feasible way of continuing on to the presidential palace was through negotiating a truce with SANDF commanders on the ground."

Go search for the dead bodies yourself im not posting it.

AugustineAgain:


If that is true, there won't be any South Africa existing today. Ordinary Rhino horn thieves defeated you 50 million man population of cowards
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How many civilians have rhino poachers killed and how many have BH killed?

Centrifude:


Dude you really do like letting your emotions cloud your judgement to the point that you can't even think straight.

Where did I say that your jets should have bombed them, I merely mentioned jets and Helicopters using thermal vision to track them, @ActivateKruger said that you couldn't even track down 300 girls, and I responded by saying that I was shocked when it happened because the heat produced by more then 300 hundred people would be clearly visible when using Thermal vision if you tried to track them using a jet or a chopper.
Dude are you so slow that we need to break down everything to its most fundamental aspects just for you to understand.

You keep bragging about having a higher form of intellect, and how superior you are, yet you can not even comprehend the most simplest of comments, you seriously lack the ability to understand what you're reading, you jump to conclusions without trying to understand what we've written.

So after the Alpha jet tracks them what will the jet do? Nothing.

Body heat, the whole people in Chibok town produce body heat, the animals in the bushes and desert produce body heat.

Then Boko Haram is more intelligent than all you dullard South Africans, so they split up the girls into several smaller groups and headed in different directions and destinations.

No wonder they say South Africa as a nation has no modern COIN war experience, you think terrorists are stupiiid people that cannot think?

Rainbow Nation breeds people with rock bottom I.Q. No wonder you are only good at photography, snap a still object's image with SONY camera, no brainwork required
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jln115:

How many civilians have rhino poachers killed and how many have BH killed?

Rhino poachers are after your Rhinos NOT your civilians you Domingo Dullard, the kill Rhinos NOT people, and they beautifully achieve their objective in South Africa, do you want me to post data of how many of Mandela's Rhinos they kill with impunity? They even kill Rhinos on SANDF owned land under your incompetent army's flat noses
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AugustineAgain:


So after the Alpha jet tracks them what will the jet do? Nothing.

Body heat, the whole people in Chibok town produce body heat, the animals in the bushes and desert produce body heat.

Then Boko Haram is more intelligent than all you dullard South Africans, so they split up the girls into several smaller groups and headed in different directions and destinations.

No wonder they say South Africa as a nation has no modern COIN war experience, you think terrorists are stupiiid people that cannot think?

Rainbow Nation breeds people with rock bottom I.Q. No wonder you are only good at photography, snap a still object's image with SONY camera, no brainwork required
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"desert produce body heat." and you say South Africans have dull brains!!!

AugustineAgain:


Rhino poachers are after your Rhinos NOT your civilians you Domingo Dullard, the kill Rhinos NOT people, and they beautifully achieve their objective in South Africa, do you want me to post data of how many of Mandela's Rhinos they kill with impunity? They even kill Rhinos on SANDF owned land under your incompetent army's flat noses
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SANDF dont own any land with Rhinos buddy, BTW poaching is SANparks responsibility not that of the SANDF who are there to protect the people of South Africa, and they are doing their job a 1000x better than Nigeria.

AugustineAgain:


South Africa's burning desire for OPVs and IPVs proves you woke to realize that Nigerian navy was smart to build a powerful patrol force and you dream of copying us now....but you cannot, you invested your money into missile frigates and submarines which have not added any value to your economy or serve any purpose except photography for @THIZA

Shaldag speeds up to 50 knts I suppose. Show me proof of your old rust bucket Warrior class boat.

You don't know what pirate interception is, no South African navy boat can catch a pirate once they are 10km ahead of you, Lynx helicopter will fly above the pirate but you cannot stop them unless you fire torpedoe on a civilian vessel

To intercept high speed pirates you need to catch up side by side, overtake and make it impossible for him to keep sailing .

The Europeans and Israelis that build high speed sea interceptors are not fools, they have more helicopters and OPV than South Africa.

Different equipment are built for different challenges.

South Africa does NOT have a balanced navy, deal with it !
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Frigates and Subs were purchased when there was no threat from Piracy and to maintain capabilities South Africa has had since our navy was formed

You are right we arent copying you, we are overtaking you with a collossal order for 3 OPV's and 6 IPV's

What proof do you want of the warrior class?

Super Lynx can intercept the Pirates with ease and stop them easily

South African Navy is a Navy
Nigerian Navy is a customs police

AugustineAgain:


Okay in 2013 US sailed around the world in an obsolete ship?

America does not deploy obsolete equipment overseas.

We don't need to drag this thread back, I posted full upgrade and regular modernization of the ships here few few months ago, I won't repeat it.

All American ships in that Hamilton class were stripped of missiles and CIWS many years ago during active service and America used them like that for many years without missiles

The rest of your post is just lies busted before on this forum

Thank Botswana for doing what SANDF failed to do
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Hamilton Class is obsolete and was retired from the USCG

Hamilton Class was not missile armed

Hamilton Class was stripped naked before it was handed over to Nigeria

In South Africa, poaching is on the decrease

In Nigeria, piracy is on the increase

AugustineAgain:


I did my math before I said both are $2 Billion navies.

12 Shaldag, OCEA and Eagle crafts alone cost $100 million.

2 stealth OPVs alone cost about $250 million

2 Endurance cutters Value is about $400 million

We have over 300 new patrol boats various sizes, all brand new.

4 Valour frigates and 3 Heroine submarines cost about $300 million each.

Nigerians think before they talk. Reason why the white man fears us more than they fear you South Africans
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These numbers and values are ludicrous

White man doesnt fear Nigeria, he has been raping it for 200 years

AugustineAgain:


Your navy doesn't have basics like :

- High speed high sea interceptors
- Long endurance ocean patrol cutters that can sail around Africa
- Stealth OPV
- Stealth MPV
- Stealth IPV
- LUH helicopters

South African navy will be dribbled and defeated by high speed pirates at sea or on coastline
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lol, 0/10

Not even worth replying to, apparently everything in the Nigerian Navy is "stealth"

They must really be stealth though, because no one ever sees the Nigerian Navy at sea

AugustineAgain:


I proved my $2 Billion value. You should be honest enough to admit that.

Define blue water navy from dictionary and lets see where NNS centenary, NNS Unity, NNS Thunder and NNS Okpabana will stand after sailing from Lagos to Australia without refuelling, I guess the deep ocean is not blue from Lagos to Australia, it's all brown swamp river water according to South African educational textbooks
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Blue Water is reliant on the ability to project force

It has nothing to do with the color of the water

Your Hamilton Class are not force projection assets, they have no force to project.

Thus, you are not blue water

Henry120:


Piracy isn't done in Nigerian waters. The seas are militarised. Most attacks this year took place away from Nigerian waters.

Like Nigeria has consistently shown, if the need arises we would buy if we want to.

You wasted money on Frigates, now you're looking to buy OPV's, seeing your dead beat frigates can't undergo long endurance patrols.

The United states military and coast guard regularly upgrades their equipments. In many respects NNS Thunder and NNS Okpobana are more modern ships than your Frigates.

Each both undertook an 8 million dollars up-grade.

What is obsolete is your Sub which spent 7years at the docks. Another predictable South-African waste.

Our Frigates have a range of 15 000km, they can undergo long endurance patrols

Hamilton class is obsolete (hence it was decommissioned) and it was stripped by the americans before they handed it over

Type 209 sub is faaar from obsolete

Henry120:


1997- 2015 = 18 years.

2015 would pass by, aand you'd still be dreaming of some fairy tale Frigate.

Tenders released

7 frigates

Deal

with

them

feels

AugustineAgain:


So after the Alpha jet tracks them what will the jet do? Nothing.

Body heat, the whole people in Chibok town produce body heat, the animals in the bushes and desert produce body heat .

Then Boko Haram is more intelligent than all you dullard South Africans, so they split up the girls into several smaller groups and headed in different directions and destinations.

No wonder they say South Africa as a nation has no modern COIN war experience, you think terrorists are stupiiid people that cannot think?

Rainbow Nation breeds people with rock bottom I.Q. No wonder you are only good at photography, snap a still object's image with SONY camera, no brainwork required
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Can somebody please explain to this M0ron that a jet can be used for surveillance and keeping track keeping track of a target without engaging.

AugustineAgain there are plenty of uses for a jet they are not just used for the sole Purpose of combat, they can be used as an eye in the sky, they can be used to follow targets and help coordinated an attack or rescue without being directly involved.

Dude the fact that you think a jet is only used for combat and that the desert is warm then the human body at night *which is when the girls were kidnapped* just shows how EXTREMELY R3TARDED you are, LOL dude you are a hopeless case of perpetual st*pidity.

The jet or Heli would have been able identify them because it would be a very large convoy moving towards the border, its not like they stayed in Chibok After kidnapping the girls.

Lmfao busy talking about animals in bushes like a normal person can't tell the different between animals in a bush and a convoy of more than 300 people.

Henry120:


NN geared towards Nigeria's threats. Smart Navy, Smart defence procurement.

With the Gripen, you bought fighters you cannot afford. The effects of buying like a "mumu" is more than half the fleet in storage, and only 8 pilots to show after 15 years.

The Mexicans have inquired about the Gripens, I hope Zuma acts intelligently and sells the Mexican airforce the Gripens.

South Africa has no threats, we are geared at self defence.

As the Type 209 showed NATO (and the rest of the world), Naval actions in our waters will be very costly for the agressor

This is a deterrent, same with our stealth frigates

We have the money to have all 26 Grip in the air, but it would be a waste, since we have no enemies, so we operate at minimum operational standards

You want South Africa to sell Gripen because it hurts your feelings that we operate such advanced equipment

Henry120:


The T-72 does for the Nigerian army, what the Nigerian army requires of it. This is the only thing that matters.

The chinese are the 4th largest weapons exporter, deal with that. Turkey, Europe's 6th largest economy and one of NATO's larger partners is buying the HQ-9 ADS.

You cannot afford the Gripens you bought. You could not afford them when you bought them, you cannot afford them now, so why bother buying them?

Turky is buying from the Chinese as their system costs a BILLION DOLLARS less than its competitors - because China sells cheap

We can afford and did afford all our gear

AugustineAgain:


American commandos were in South Africa helping you to fight local Rhino Poachers. LOL !
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On private land, for a tv show

They were not deployed, unlike the Marines who had to deploy Nigeria to secure your capital

jln115:

"desert produce body heat." and you say South Africans have dull brains!!!

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lmfao I laughed so hard when I read that, AugustineAgain is an Idiot.

Henry120:


Nigeria has the Aradu, 5 corvettes and missile corvettes to wade of any external agression.

This is the Nigerian Navy as of today.

The Nigerian navy if the threats are real, would convert NNS thunder, NNS okpobana, NNS Centenary and NNS Unity into missile ships. We are very well prepared.


The Gripens are stored because you lack money. Simple.

Same as your A109's.

None of those vessels are operational

Because you lack money, skills and facilities

Simple

Henry120:


Incase you missed the memo, ALL SAAF A109's are GROUNDED.

Temporarily, awaiting their paperwork to be sorted out

We arent some fly by night airforce like you

No maintenance paperwork = no time in the air

Found this while browsing the Net.

An opinion piece from a civilian who was given the opportunity to see how the SAAF operates

"My first visit was 85 Squadron (Combat Flying School) were pilots are introduced to jet aircraft and then trained on the Hawk to become fighter pilots. Students at this squadron mainly come from AFB Langebaan where they first completed their initial pilot's training and then passed a selection process to be trained as a fighter. I was extremely impressed by the members of this unit. It is sometimes said that there is no discipline in the defence force today and if I use 85 Squadron as a gauge of measurement, this is as far from the truth as can come. Although discipline in the military is usually a result of pressure, at 85 Squadron it is a result of absolute professionalism and respect for one another."


http://www.pilotspost.co.za/arn0000089

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[size=16pt]Currently active Special Forces in Africa :

Nigeria's highly experienced Special Forces battle inside Balmo Forest this week

"The Nigerian Army has discovered a plan by the Boko Haram insurgents to attack 25 communities and villages spread across five states in the troubled North-East zone.

A credible security source, who confided in our correspondent on Thursday, said that the Boko Haram hit list was recovered by Special Forces during an operation at the Balmo Forest.

According to the source, the targeted communities are spread across five states of Adamawa, Borno, Bauchi, Gombe, Yobe.

The source said, “There are 25 towns and communities mentioned in the Balmo Forest hit list of the sect recovered by the troops.


http://www.punchng.com/news/bharam-army-uncovers-plot-to-invade-five-states/

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mzilakazi:


SA do not want to do teaching anymore, many people see it as a low paying job. Besides, South African brilliant teachers are only found at private schools.

Okay South Africa is a foolish society where the adults don't want to be school teachers to educate and raise their own children in schools and build the future of your nation.

No wonder your country is full of block-headed Olodos .

So those jobless Soweto men in their millions consider teaching to be a low paying job and decided to sit down at home every day of their lives demanding ANC government free food free housing and cash handouts.

Wow ! What a foolish nation South Africa is, and you want to be leader of Africa? Who will follow your foolish example ?
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jln115:

"desert produce body heat." and you say South Africans have dull brains!!!

Go read my comment again, halfwit, I said:

"Body heat, the whole people in Chibok town produce body heat, the animals in the bushes and desert produce body heat "

Mumu Southie dullaard, there are no school teachers in Johannesburg to tell you that there are animals in the desert and they emit body heat !

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