AugustineAgain:


Gripen flown on ferry range fuel, means no weapons armed. Fool

All your Arguments about the Gripen are irrelevant, because Nigeria only has old F-7 jets, that you yourself proved are old and needed to be replaced.

jln115:

How deadly CAR battle unfolded:
By Helmoed Römer Heitman (a Janes correspondent, as i have it you Nigerians claim that Jane's is the most credible of all websites.)
www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-deadly-car-battle-unfolded-1.1493841#.VIoSVNKUfIS

Another South-African Propaganda.

I said news sources on the ground in bangui, was helmoed heitman on the ground when your troops were brushed aside by a bunch of farmers and children?

Reuters, AFP, Aljazeera, AP all internationally recognised agencies do not corroborate your fraudulent bangui stories.

They all say, you begged for mercy, raised the white flag, begged the french and we're humiliated.

jln115:

South Africa existed from 1837 as the South African republic, the Union of South Africa from 1903 and Republic of South Africa after being granted independence in 1948

South-Africa is we know it only began to exist in 1994.

Henry120:


It is Apartheid defence industry, definitely not South-African.

because Apartheid was in Nigerian.

AugustineAgain:


Feel sorry for your South African over-diluted education, I went to a local Nigerian school, yet I can use mach 2 and the combat radius to mathematically calculate the combat flight time and recce endurance time of a Gripen jet.

Your ANC republic does not deem it fit to educate you up to basic maths and science standards that can help you compete with other Africans.

Togolese are smarter than you Southies.

Gripen jet maximum travel time in the air is 20 minutes with heavy load, including time to travel to and fro the target location, so real time for combat operation above battlefield is about 3 minutes

$50 million dollar jet becomes poor value for money, news report says an Asian/European country was also bribed by Sweden's SAAB to buy the worthless over-priced Gripen jet.

Gripen needs bribery to sell most of the time, because it is a bad jet for the price.

Gripen jet proves that Quality IS NOT EQUAL to high price
.

Why are you avoiding the question?

Why would the grip allways fly at max speed if it does not need to?

Why would it not fly at a more economical speed?

Your argument has gone from " i have proof of 40min max loiter time" to "by my calculations"

You response is long and pointless, a vain attempt to avoid the question

Just answer the queation

Henry120:


Another South-African Propaganda.

I said news sources on the ground in bangui, was helmoed heitman on the ground when your troops were brushed aside by a bunch of farmers and children?

Reuters, AFP, Aljazeera, AP all internationally recognised agencies do not corroborate your fraudulent bangui stories.

They all say, you begged for mercy, raised the white flag, begged the french and we're humiliated.

Posted an international source last night, and your sources stated that 36 SANDF soldiers died, and its impossible to conceal only one soldiers death in SA let alone 21,it could be possible in Nigeria but not in SA.

Henry120:


South-Africa is we know it only began to exist in 1994.

because everyone in South Africa was born in 1994

Henry120:


South-Africa is we know it only began to exist in 1994.

And Nigeria from 1960:

AugustineAgain:


I know that there are no qualified teachers in South African schools, my own local Nigerian teacher thought me to read well.

See the bottom of the image, it CLEARLY says Valkiri-Bateleur.....

You need to come to a Nigerian school and learn how to read

Anyway, Igirigi is more beautiful than your ugly faced South African Valkiri

If you live in a glass house don't throw stones !
.

Agaugust you were dubbed my friend. Valkiri is a bit smaller and is no longer in use. Yet the bateleur took its design but a bit bigger and more powerful.

nguvumali:

i agree with what u stated,apart from South Africa army , Tanzania Army so far has the most powerful army in southern Sahara

Algeria has the most modern military in Africa, Ethiopia is one of the most deadly. Both are missing from that list mister morooon

Henry120:


South-Africa is we know it only began to exist in 1994.

SA existed long before the could be a country called Nigeria. 1994 was only the first democratic elections of SA and Nigeria's first democratic elections came later. So, should we say Nigeria started to exist only in 1996 or 98?

jln115:


My Friend you obviously did a basic Financial Accounting Diploma, because if you did a Bcom Accounting degree you would know that to become a CA you have to understand the Tender processes to audit it! thats why in Management Accounting/Cost accounting you learn to deal with Tenders for example you have to calculate which of the Tenders will be best for the company in terms of cost and quality of the product, and also in Financial Accounting you have to consider how you will be able to finance the choices you are able to choose thus which tender will be the most difficult or easiest to finance.

Do you even know what ifrs stand for!

Please bring a South African professional accountant here to face me, I have been asking since 2 years ago, no Southie accountant dared to accept my challenge o !

We accountants know NOTHING about product quality, how many will we know in this world? Cars, food, machines, aircraft, guns, furniture, building materials, chemicals, medicine/pharmaceuticals....etc You must be insaane to think accountants will judge tenders for all kinds of product quality world wide.

It is the job of purchasing and supply professionals and the technical experts in each field of the products being purchased.

Ever seen where accountants judge quality of chemicals and engines in this world? Full time fool, you Southie guys start an argument, trap yourselves in a tight corner of big error, and struggle to lie your way out of it, becoming more and more foolish and embarrassed in the process, instead of backing out of a wrong opinion when you still have some honour left....fools

Fool of Pretoria where there are no qualified teachers in the fine painted schools
.

patches689:


South Africa has no threats, we are geared at self defence.

As the Type 209 showed NATO (and the rest of the world), Naval actions in our waters will be very costly for the agressor

This is a deterrent, same with our stealth frigates

We have the money to have all 26 Grip in the air, but it would be a waste, since we have no enemies, so we operate at minimum operational standards

You want South Africa to sell Gripen because it hurts your feelings that we operate such advanced equipment

Type what, the same Sub that was in the docks for 7 years?

You carried out a naval exercise with a couple NATO ships sailing very old vessels, nothing to be proud of brother.

Deterrent you say, how are they achieving this deterrence from the freezer, with no funds to activate them if I may ask?

They are more like Mandela monuments.

Now, here's how you hold an exercise.

In 2014, Nigeria held Africa's single largest Naval Exercise.

Exercise Obangame Express 2014 had a total number of

40 ships (German, turkish, Italian, spanish, british, brazilian , Nigerian Frigates and corvettes in attendance)

8 helicopters ( 2 Nigerian A109s, 1 nigerian naval bell)

2 Fixed wing assets ( 2 ELINT compliant ATR-42, from the Nigerian Airforce)

This is how you hold an exercise. Not 1 sub against some rust bucket European vessels.


Mexico wants your Gripen so they can save you the embarrassment of continually storing them in a freezer. Not like you even have the pilots to fly them after 15 years.

What is the use of keeping them?

AugustineAgain:


Algeria has the most modern military in Africa, Ethiopia is one of the most deadly. Both are missing from that list mister morooon

Algeria cannot even build a radar, my answer is South Africa.

jln115:

Citation....

Simple mathematics, combat radius vs speed vs payload.

Maths that South African teachers can NEVER teach you, we know it in Nigeria

AugustineAgain:


Please bring a South African professional accountant here to face me, I have been asking since 2 years ago, no Southie accountant dared to accept my challenge o !

We accountants know NOTHING about product quality, how many will we know in this world? Cars, food, machines, aircraft, guns, furniture, building materials, chemicals, medicine/pharmaceuticals....etc You must be insaane to think accountants will judge tenders for all kinds of product quality world wide.

It is the job of purchasing and supply professionals and the technical experts in each field of the products being purchased.

Ever seen where accountants judge quality of chemicals and engines in this world? Full time fool, you Southie guys start an argument, trap yourselves in a tight corner of big error, and struggle to lie your way out of it, becoming more and more foolish and embarrassed in the process, instead of backing out of a wrong opinion when you still have some honour left....fools

Fool of Pretoria where there are no qualified teachers in the fine painted schools
.

@agaugust, stop fooling yourself, you are not a professional charted accountant. Such professions will hardly find time to engage in military talks. What they do they mean business 24/7.

AugustineAgain:


Simple mathematics, combat radius vs speed vs payload.

Maths that South African teachers can NEVER teach you, we know it in Nigeria

The lower the combat radius the heavier the ordnance of a fighter.

jln115:

All three subs are operational, one will be upgraded soon so yes then obviously we will only have 2 operational, as for the Augusta's they are grounded due to paper work not funding, and we will afford new ships thanks to the budget increase recommended by the defence review, thus its simple maths BIGGER BUDGET=MORE MONEY=MORE SHIPS ,understand know?

Do you even know how you paid for those Gripens you have no money to fly?

You had no money when you first ordered them, you still cannot afford them 15 years later.

You got upto 40% in unpaid loans, you think any bank would grant you a fresh loan to purchase a fresh number of boats you cannot afford?

If you believe you're getting new boats, you must still be stuck in lala land.

AugustineAgain:


I know that there are no qualified teachers in South African schools, my own local Nigerian teacher thought me to read well.

See the bottom of the image, it CLEARLY says Valkiri-Bateleur.....

You need to come to a Nigerian school and learn how to read

Anyway, Igirigi is more beautiful than your ugly faced South African Valkiri

If you live in a glass house don't throw stones !
.

What should I do with this guy? He thinks the Igirigi is beautiful.. I give up on you, you can no longer be saved by the salvation of logic.

jln115:

And Nigeria from 1960:

Nigeria in it's current definition began in 1914, when it was amalgamated.

We gained our independence in 1960, dropped the union jack, a flew our colour.

We've always had large notable empires in Nigeria, which pre-date the british.

Benin empire
Kanem-bornu empire
Sokoto caliphate etc etc

AugustineAgain:


Please bring a South African professional accountant here to face me, I have been asking since 2 years ago, no Southie accountant dared to accept my challenge o !

We accountants know NOTHING about product quality, how many will we know in this world? Cars, food, machines, aircraft, guns, furniture, building materials, chemicals, medicine/pharmaceuticals....etc You must be insaane to think accountants will judge tenders for all kinds of product quality world wide.

It is the job of purchasing and supply professionals and the technical experts in each field of the products being purchased.

Ever seen where accountants judge quality of chemicals and engines in this world? Full time fool, you Southie guys start an argument, trap yourselves in a tight corner of big error, and struggle to lie your way out of it, becoming more and more foolish and embarrassed in the process, instead of backing out of a wrong opinion when you still have some honour left....fools

Fool of Pretoria where there are no qualified teachers in the fine painted schools
.

Yes Accountants dont judge quality, but in Management Accounting we use the information given by Professionals who do, plus information we calculated our selves to make a decision on which tender will be chosen, and in Financial Accounting we calculate by which means different tenders can be Financed and which are the easiest to finance.
So yes an accounting degree(a proper one), has very much to do with Tenders.

Do you Know what does ifrs stand for.

FighterPilot:


SA existed long before the could be a country called Nigeria. 1994 was only the first democratic elections of SA and Nigeria's first democratic elections came later. So, should we say Nigeria started to exist only in 1996 or 98?

We have empires which predate you south-africans.

Nigeria's first election brought in tafawa belewa as prime-minister of Nigeria in the early 60's.

South-Africa on the other hand only began to exist in 1994.

Your flag proves it.

Henry120:


Do you even know how you paid for those Gripens you have no money to fly?

You had no money when you first ordered them, you still cannot afford them 15 years later.

You got upto 40% in unpaid loans, you think any bank would grant you a fresh loan to purchase a fresh number of boats you cannot afford?

If you believe you're getting new boats, you must still be stuck in lala land.

Lies!! Lies!!! Lies!!!


SA has money to operate griffins, the only problem is that the prioritization of budget vote is focused elsewhere. The defense review will remedy the situation.

As far as the bank loans is concerned your claims are unfounded because the griffin jets and everything else were bought on cash. The only items which were bought through bank financing were the submarines reason being there were reservations with their serviceability. SA, thus did not want to gamble with the tax payers money since the bank also approved insurances for them.

Henry120:


Nigeria in it's current definition began in 1914, when it was amalgamated.

We gained our independence in 1960, dropped the union jack, a flew our colour.

We've always had large notable empires in Nigeria, which pre-date the british.

Benin empire
Kanem-bornu empire
Sokoto caliphate etc etc

Yes and SA as current definition began in 1837, and got its independence in 1948.

Henry120:


Nigeria in it's current definition began in 1914, when it was amalgamated.

We gained our independence in 1960, dropped the union jack, a flew our colour.

We've always had large notable empires in Nigeria, which pre-date the british.

Benin empire
Kanem-bornu empire
Sokoto caliphate etc etc

So, when did you had your first democratic elections?

jln115:

Posted an international source last night, and your sources stated that 36 SANDF soldiers died, and its impossible to conceal only one soldiers death in SA let alone 21,it could be possible in Nigeria but not in SA.

Somehow you believe that fraudulent poorly thought out propaganda report which claims you killed between 1000- 3000 seleka, yet Seleka took over the capital a few short hours after they had an encounter with your troops.

jln115:

Yes and SA as current definition began in 1837, and got its independence in 1948.

SA got her independence in 1994.

Henry120:


We have empires which predate you south-africans.

Nigeria's first election brought in tafawa belewa as prime-minister of Nigeria in the early 60's.

South-Africa on the other hand only began to exist in 1994.

Your flag proves it.

Ok so know a flag determines when a country began, so Nigeria began in 1960,according to you.

Henry120:


SA got her independence in 1994.

No in 1948.

jln115:

Yes and SA as current definition began in 1837, and got its independence in 1948.

SA gained its independence from Britain in 31 May 1910. Apartheid started in 1948 through National party after it won national elections.

FighterPilot:



Lies!! Lies!!! Lies!!!


SA has money to operate griffins, the only problem is that the prioritization of budget vote is focused elsewhere. The defense review will remedy the situation.

As far as the bank loans is concerned your claims are unfounded because the griffin jets and everything else were bought on cash. The only items which were bought through bank financing were the submarines reason being there were reservations with their serviceability. SA, thus did not want to gamble with the tax payers money since the bank also approved insurances for them.

What a comic relief of a response.

Nobody is approving any more loans for you. You SANs should wake up from your hallucinations.

jln115:

No in 1948.

1994.