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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by osahons9(m): 7:01am On Dec 15, 2014
@profojah sorry for the delay. I agree absolutely with @repsin. I want to add something too. I think if you don't have experience in ur intended major, then your application sounds desperate. you just rounded up your nysc, probably you were teaching there or something. They know it's difficult to get a job in nigeria but that doesn't mean you shouldn't look for a job say within one year from when you rounded up nysc. Applying for visa immediately after nysc is a sign of desperation. I have seen so many denials to back this up.

From my experience, you need to show them you know what you want from experience/training and even if you are not working, you are not idle.

My 2kobo cos dollar don too high grin

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by repsin(m): 8:47am On Dec 15, 2014
Exactly he should create a link with work experience related to his intending course of study. My brother I dey fear to change my naira to dollars oo.
osahons9:
@profojah sorry for the delay. I agree absolutely with @repsin. I want to add something too. I think if you don't have experience in ur intended major, then your application sounds desperate. you just rounded up your nysc, probably you were teaching there or something. They know it's difficult to get a job in nigeria but that doesn't mean you shouldn't look for a job say within one year from when you rounded up nysc. Applying for visa immediately after nysc is a sign of desperation. I have seen so many denials to back this up.

From my experience, you need to show them you know what you want from experience/training and even if you are not working, you are not idle.

My 2kobo cos dollar don too high grin
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by MsNas(f): 9:08am On Dec 15, 2014
repsin:
@profojah. Your interview transcript was a good one but I have to point out some things on it.
Firstly, you need to build a link between your UG degree and your intending MS major. The VO wanted to help fill up that space reason why he asked what your project was all about.
Secondly, you don't give a VO what he has not or did not ask it's simply a sign of desperation and I guess you were indisposed.
My recommendation: Apply to a course related to what you studied. It makes your case easier with little or no explanation. Americans love continuity and consistency.
What about people who switched majors and got their visas on their first trial without breaking a sweat at the interviews? How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Almost all the Americans in my graduate class did something entirely different for undergraduate. So, where did that theory come from?

I agree he needs to give a reason for his switch to forensics via work experience. But saying he should drop that for something along the lines of his undergraduate degree doesn't sound right to me. Also, applying for a visa right after NYSC is no crime.

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 10:20am On Dec 15, 2014
MsNas:

What about people who switched majors and got their visas on their first trial without breaking a sweat at the interviews? How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Almost all the Americans in my graduate class did something entirely different for undergraduate. So, where did that theory come from?

I agree he needs to give a reason for his switch to forensics via work experience. But saying he should drop that for something along the lines of his undergraduate degree doesn't sound right to me. Also, applying for a visa right after NYSC is no crime.


No one has a good explanation for his denial; I guess we re all just guessing and suggesting. VOs can be funny. They r unpredictable. The fact that you were given a visa for different program from Ur undergraduate doesn't mean they would give someone else. Every applicants' case is peculiar. You guys should let that guy be and let's move on!

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by repsin(m): 10:36am On Dec 15, 2014
Each applicant's case is different. I also have lot of friends that changed major but almost all of them had some supporting things. One just got his visa on friday, he changed from Biochemistry to mechanical engineering but hey this guy has been to the US seven times in five years. In projorah case, he had a very good GPA and the VO might not be comfortable with him changing this area that he's good at.and there was nothing to back up his point.
MsNas:

What about people who switched majors and got their visas on their first trial without breaking a sweat at the interviews? How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Almost all the Americans in my graduate class did something entirely different for undergraduate. So, where did that theory come from?

I agree he needs to give a reason for his switch to forensics via work experience. But saying he should drop that for something along the lines of his undergraduate degree doesn't sound right to me. Also, applying for a visa right after NYSC is no crime.

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by owoleo: 11:24am On Dec 15, 2014
owoleo:
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 11:42am On Dec 15, 2014
@repsin @sabiguy
Please because you got your visa doesn't give you any right to pontificate on why the VO denied profojah
What's even worse is the fact that your assumptions are completely baseless.

So everyone has to do a masters in a related field to get a visa?
Absolute hogwash.

Americans like continuity in education?
Are you kidding me??
I've seen people switch from dance to nursing.
If there's any country that believes in horizontal education and not vertical education. It is America. So that statement is not only fallacious it is downright ignorant.

Visa is favour and likeablility.
Simple.
Don't say things you don't know especially to a downcast applicant.

#Out

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 11:52am On Dec 15, 2014
ebdib, out to where? Lol. I spent my money buying this phone but auto-correct would be dragging the keyboard with me angry

How have you been bro? Guess you're preparing for the Xmas break?

Profojah would definitely get his visa. No need for back and forth.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by bbdd: 11:53am On Dec 15, 2014
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osahons9:
@profojah sorry for the delay. I agree absolutely with @repsin. I want to add something too. I think if you don't have experience in ur intended major, then your application sounds desperate. you just rounded up your nysc, probably you were teaching there or something. They know it's difficult to get a job in nigeria but that doesn't mean you shouldn't look for a job say within one year from when you rounded up nysc. Applying for visa immediately after nysc is a sign of desperation. I have seen so many denials to back this up.

From my experience, you need to show them you know what you want from experience/training and even if you are not working, you are not idle.

My 2kobo cos dollar don too high grin
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by nedum360: 11:55am On Dec 15, 2014
[quote author=udeyokay post=28880983][/quote]

I had a smiliar experience with the guy @window six. Was he the one u met?
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by bbdd: 11:55am On Dec 15, 2014
slimmy05:
ebdib, out to where? Lol. I spent my money buying this phone but auto-correct would be dragging the keyboard with me angry

How have you been bro? Guess you're preparing for the Xmas break?

Profojah would definitely get his visa. No need for back and forth.

Slimmy you got mail
Pls I want to ask you something
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 11:59am On Dec 15, 2014
slimmy05:
ebdib, out to where? Lol. I spent my money buying this phone but auto-correct would be dragging the keyboard with me angry

How have you been bro? Guess you're preparing for the Xmas break?

Profojah would definitely get his visa. No need for back and forth.

Out to nowhere
Sup with your applications??

Could you pm me so we could talk?
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 12:05pm On Dec 15, 2014
ebdib:


Out to nowhere
Sup with your applications??

Could you pm me so we could talk?
Yeah sure.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by warpedlogician: 12:12pm On Dec 15, 2014
Hello guys
I'm new here.

Please is it a red flag if you don't have a relative in the US??
Thank you
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 12:27pm On Dec 15, 2014
warpedlogician:
Hello guys
I'm new here.

Please is it a red flag if you don't have a relative in the US??
Thank you
No
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 12:32pm On Dec 15, 2014
ebdib:
@repsin @sabiguy
Please because you got your visa doesn't give you any right to pontificate on why the VO denied profojah
What's even worse is the fact that your assumptions are completely baseless.

So everyone has to do a masters in a related field to get a visa?
Absolute hogwash.

Americans like continuity in education?
Are you kidding me??
I've seen people switch from dance to nursing.
If there's any country that believes in horizontal education and not vertical education. It is America. So that statement is not only fallacious it is downright ignorant.

Visa is favour and likeablility.
Simple.
Don't say things you don't know especially to a downcast applicant.

#Out


Young man. The only difference between phantom and Phantom is the capital and small P. Well you re speaking 'phantom' and if you read my previous posts well, you'll know where I stand and by the way, I am yet to pick up my visa plus if you care to know; I was denied F1 twice in 2008 for undergraduate cuz I couldn't even face the VO; I was young and naive with no confidence. Went to Malaysia to get my Bsc (software engineering), currently doing NYSC before trying to refire for my masters. My point is that I have known better now and I know not to determine why someone else didn't get their visa but we could only guess and suggest (if u read my last post). That being said, you need not to cause any obfuscation regarding the issue. We are all here to learn from each other! Less I forget, If you have an UG in law and going for MS in Medicine with no tangible back up or experience as to your decision in change of profession, you could be taken UNserious by VO except if u have a good story to tell about it. Whoever switched profession and got visa has done their homework right before the interview.

PS: How am I supposed to be convinced that your analysis is correct when we are all here to learn! You ain't a VO... Are you
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Bibbzy(m): 12:45pm On Dec 15, 2014
profojah:
Visa denied on Friday 12th at d Abuja consulate..this is d second time in 2months..but I believe that's how God wants it...really appreciate Slimmy , innovativeame, dotman, walspring and Ctemi for dose encouraging advise and calls...I appreciate u guyz much

VO- gudmorning
Me- hi how is it going
Vo- I'm gud, you're going to university of Baltimore for?
Me- Msc in cyber forensic and counterterrorism
Vo- why cyber forensic and counterterrorism
Me- really wanna be a forensic analyst and the rise in technology related crime in Nigeria today from criminal cases, employee misconduct ,civil disputes to d act of terrorism has generated an urgent need for a new type of investigator who can combine the field of information technology with forensic sci with d art of investigating and critical thinking..and this profession isn't enormous in Nigeria cos there's lack of professionalism
Vo- (nods)OK yes its true...which skool did you graduated from and what course?
Me- unilag, enviromental botany and palynology
Vo - can I see ur transcript
Me- my school don't issue transcript to student but I have my cert and my final ur statement of result
Vo.- can I see it
After given him, he saw all my final yr with As (4.54/5.00) cgpa and he was pointing to my project result which I had an A
Vo- what was your project topic about?
Me- Forensic Palynology :
Vo - nods .thats very good
I was even happy. Thought d man go give me
Vo- I really love your project topic
Me - smiles
Vo- who is your sponsor
Me - my uncle
Vo- what does he do
Me- he's the Commander of Police mobile force 49squadron and the former lagos state police relation officer PPRO
Vo- can I have his statement of account
Me- I gave him and also the letter of sponsorship with mobile police letter head paper and logo
Vo- typed for like 3min....after which he said I'm sorry blah blah blah and gave a white sheet

But on d paper he gave ...it states that I don't have a ties to my country but he didn't ask me about that cos I've already prepared for that questions
But I know Man proposes God disposes. School resumes jan26th

seriously your interview was cool,i dont know what's wrong there...because you answered well
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by MsNas(f): 1:04pm On Dec 15, 2014
sabiguy:



No one has a good explanation for his denial; I guess we re all just guessing and suggesting. VOs can be funny. They r unpredictable. The fact that you were given a visa for different program from Ur undergraduate doesn't mean they would give someone else. Every applicants' case is peculiar. You guys should let that guy be and let's move on!
I was talking to repsin and profojah. And they weren't complaining too.

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 1:17pm On Dec 15, 2014
sabiguy:



Young man. The only difference between phantom and Phantom is the capital and small P. Well you re speaking 'phantom' and if you read my previous posts well, you'll know where I stand and by the way, I am yet to pick up my visa plus if you care to know; I was denied F1 twice in 2008 for undergraduate cuz I couldn't even face the VO; I was young and naive with no confidence. Went to Malaysia to get my Bsc (software engineering), currently doing NYSC before trying to refire for my masters. My point is that I have known better now and I know not to determine why someone else didn't get their visa but we could only guess and suggest (if u read my last post). That being said, you need not to cause any obfuscation regarding the issue. We are all here to learn from each other! Less I forget, If you have an UG in law and going for MS in Medicine with no tangible back up or experience as to your decision in change of profession, you could be taken UNserious by VO except if u have a good story to tell about it. Whoever switched profession and got visa has done their homework right before the interview.

PS: How am I supposed to be convinced that your analysis is correct when we are all here to learn! You ain't a VO... Are you

Bottom line :
You don't know
I don't know

But I didn't come here to analyse like I'm an expert pls
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by kwenu: 1:23pm On Dec 15, 2014
sorry to hear prof ojah, God is on your side,
You see this is one reason i said in one of my post, that people should provide more evidence/information on concerning thier visa pursuit right from day one when they apply to the university of thier choice, so as to help others.there are many of us here who are good at judgement or research, i believe with good research we can guess the VO's mind on wether one will be issued visa or not , if not 100% sure , at least 80% -90%, these guys (VO's) are humans and they can be mastered.

1 guys it will be helpful if you tell us how much is in bank statement of account
2 how much was deposited to the school u applied to
3 for your own safety dont give us school names u applied to but tell us the total ammount of tuition
4 tell us if your documentation were good enough (i know a Childhood friend who didnt have good documentation but he was granted visa, it 5 was VO'S birthday, the day he was intervied and so VO was laughing all though happily ) guy is now in A & M TX
6 State the course studied at your undergraduate level and which one u now intend to study at the new university u re applying to
7 exams written such as (gre sat, toefl, ssce,neco, gmats, etc)
8 try your possible best to post whatever conversation between you and the VO.
9 How many times u have been denied the US visa
10 Tell if your passport has been disvirgined before applying for the visa
11 Tell if you were given scholarship or grants, etc if full scholarship please specify or part scholarship , pls specify
12 Tell if your score meets the school requirement and your overall docs.


please whatever information u feel its not safe for you to disclose on here, then try to keep it secrete, dont bother telling the part u feel is not safe for you to disclose

its likely that a guy like prof ojah continues to spend money on these visa application process if he does not do stuffs like seek knowledge so as to get a different result next time, there are other applicants in his shoes who are likely to face thesame crisis. so u see the need as to help him now, seeing he has applied this 2nd time. i am not wishing him evil, but just saying so as u all can see reasons for doing more to help others

I will post more later

To add to this post , are we to say that the vo's have a certain number of visas available every year to be given to student. and so we see no need to bother/ ask why a qualified candidate for thier visa was refused. and if that be the case. we then should not say that the us Govt care not about student investing in thier economy through education

please bear with my use of words(unfit)


[quote author=udeyokay post=28880983][/quote]
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by repsin(m): 2:05pm On Dec 15, 2014
Please don't turn this into something else. We are all here to learn from situation like this. It is left to you to take or discard the advice depending on how it fits you. You don't say people's assumptions are completely baseless, it's rude.
ebdib:
@repsin @sabiguy
Please because you got your visa doesn't give you any right to pontificate on why the VO denied profojah
What's even worse is the fact that your assumptions are completely baseless.

So everyone has to do a masters in a related field to get a visa?
Absolute hogwash.

Americans like continuity in education?
Are you kidding me??
I've seen people switch from dance to nursing.
If there's any country that believes in horizontal education and not vertical education. It is America. So that statement is not only fallacious it is downright ignorant.

Visa is favour and likeablility.
Simple.
Don't say things you don't know especially to a downcast applicant.

#Out
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Gbenge77(m): 3:17pm On Dec 15, 2014
profojah:
Visa denied on Friday 12th at d Abuja consulate..this is d second time in 2months..but I believe that's how God wants it...really appreciate Slimmy , innovativeame, dotman, walspring and Ctemi for dose encouraging advise and calls...I appreciate u guyz much

VO- gudmorning
Me- hi how is it going
Vo- I'm gud, you're going to university of Baltimore for?
Me- Msc in cyber forensic and counterterrorism
Vo- why cyber forensic and counterterrorism
Me- really wanna be a forensic analyst and the rise in technology related crime in Nigeria today from criminal cases, employee misconduct ,civil disputes to d act of terrorism has generated an urgent need for a new type of investigator who can combine the field of information technology with forensic sci with d art of investigating and critical thinking..and this profession isn't enormous in Nigeria cos there's lack of professionalism
Vo- (nods)OK yes its true...which skool did you graduated from and what course?
Me- unilag, enviromental botany and palynology
Vo - can I see ur transcript
Me- my school don't issue transcript to student but I have my cert and my final ur statement of result
Vo.- can I see it
After given him, he saw all my final yr with As (4.54/5.00) cgpa and he was pointing to my project result which I had an A
Vo- what was your project topic about?
Me- Forensic Palynology :
Vo - nods .thats very good
I was even happy. Thought d man go give me
Vo- I really love your project topic
Me - smiles
Vo- who is your sponsor
Me - my uncle
Vo- what does he do
Me- he's the Commander of Police mobile force 49squadron and the former lagos state police relation officer PPRO
Vo- can I have his statement of account
Me- I gave him and also the letter of sponsorship with mobile police letter head paper and logo
Vo- typed for like 3min....after which he said I'm sorry blah blah blah and gave a white sheet

But on d paper he gave ...it states that I don't have a ties to my country but he didn't ask me about that cos I've already prepared for that questions
But I know Man proposes God disposes. School resumes jan26th

The Co will not ask you directly about your ties to your country.He will consider some factors viz a viz,professional,cultural,financial,social etc before deciding whether or not you have enough ties to your country.Also,he will look at your specific intentions,family situations,long range plans and prospects.All this will help him make a decision whether or not to grant you a visa.In addition,its vitally important that you don't sound or appear desperate during an interview.In fact ,that's the reason for the interview.To seperate the wheat from the chaff.The genuine from the desperate.This is quite a difficult job,but that's what they are trained to decipher.Of course a few mistakes might occur,where the CO mistakes the genuine for the desperate,these cases are few and far between,considering that they get their decisions right more often than not.They don't consider documents as vitally important,considering the number of fraudulent docs that have been presented previously.They don't even trust Nigerian docs again.And its funny when you see some applicants go with ashipload of docs,trying to impress the CO.They are quick to produce the docs,even when the CO hasn't asked for it.That might suggest desperation to the CO.
In the final analysis,en sure your intentions are genuine,display a positive body language,don't fret.Maintain a calm mien,to suggest that even if the visa is not granted,heavens won't fall.That's the kinda attitude they wanna see.An applicant who demonstrates the above traits has a fantastic chance of getting a visa.
Over and out!

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 3:27pm On Dec 15, 2014
repsin:
Please don't turn this into something else. We are all here to learn from situation like this. It is left to you to take or discard the advice depending on how it fits you. You don't say people's assumptions are completely baseless, it's rude.

And you didn't think it's rude to just parse someone's interview and give advise out of your hat?
Nigga please.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 3:28pm On Dec 15, 2014
Gbenge77:
The Co will not ask you directly about your ties to your country.He will consider some factors viz a viz,professional,cultural,financial,social etc before deciding whether or not you have enough ties to your country.Also,he will look at your specific intentions,family situations,long range plans and prospects.All this will help him make a decision whether or not to grant you a visa.In addition,its vitally important that you don't. Sound or appear desperate during an interview.In fact ,that's the reason for the interview.To seperate the wheat from the chaff.The genuine from the seperate.This is quite a difficult job,but that's what they are trained to decipher.Of course a few mistakes might occur,where the CO mistakes the genuine for the desperate,these cases are few and far between,considering that they get their decisions right more often than not.They don't consider documents as vitally important,considering the number of fraudulent docs that have been presented previously.They don't even trust Nigerian docs again.And its funny when you see some applicants go with ashipload of docs,trying to impress the CO.They are quick to produce the docs,even when the CO hasn't asked for it.That might suggest desperation to the CO.
In the final analysis,en sure your intentions are genuine,display a positive body language,don't fret.Maintain a calm mien,to suggest that even if the visa is not granted,heavens won't fall.That's the kinda attitude they wanna see.An applicant who demonstrates the above traits,has a fantastic chance of getting a visa.
Oer and out!


Well balanced advice. Good job.
You've said it all
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 4:16pm On Dec 15, 2014
MsNas:

I was talking to repsin and profojah. And they weren't complaining too.

Well, i thought i'd let you know, but Ok... Just let it go.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 4:22pm On Dec 15, 2014
ebdib:


Bottom line :
You don't know
I don't know

But I didn't come here to analyse like I'm an expert pls


You make me laugh. I can't even believe I was taking you serious. #OkBye
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 5:17pm On Dec 15, 2014
sabiguy:


You make me laugh. I can't even believe I was taking you serious. #OkBye

That's your biz.
Don't go around saying things you're not sure about and misleading people.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 5:26pm On Dec 15, 2014
ebdib:


That's your biz.
Don't go around saying things you're not sure about and misleading people.


I notice you r sorta a rude kid. Your manner of putting words together sounds childish so I'll just leave u ranting and exhibiting your garrulous character! Now, I know you would do Ur thing (talk trash) again but, this is the last comment you r getting from a brother
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 5:33pm On Dec 15, 2014
bbdd:


Slimmy you got mail
Pls I want to ask you something
i didn't get your mail
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by Nobody: 5:37pm On Dec 15, 2014
sabiguy:


I notice you.........

let's stop the back and forth. You would only make profojah feel bad with the rift. Let's look for how to assist in anyway possible.

I just have this advice. Your interview starts with your DS160. Try to take extra care in making sure it is properly filled.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by imperiouxx(m): 5:45pm On Dec 15, 2014
Lot of rude and harsh talks on this thread nowadays. Where is the brain and courtesy? I guess that's not common anymore.

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