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Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m): 10:21pm On Dec 25, 2014
Vibra:
I don't understand
[b]you don't break lines in poetry, the reason must appeals to the readers....

For example:

Line 1. With his own sword, (we use sword to cut, so that causes the line break,).
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m): 10:24pm On Dec 25, 2014
[b]capital letters in poems
Playing with capital letters and punctuation can be fun. These are both important ingredients in a poem.

The great thing about writing a poem is you get to choose what you want to do.

Some poets begin every line with a capital letter.

Some poets never begin a line with a capital letter.

Some poets use capital letters in a poem like they do in a story to show the beginning of a sentence.

If you use capitals down the side all the time it can stop the flow of the poem. Nowadays poets are less likely to do this.

Sometimes young poets give a capital letter to a word in the middle of a line. This can make it stand out. Think about why you want to do this.

Think about why you use capitals down the left-hand side. Do they look good? Do they shout a bit at the reader? Do they add to the rhythm? Do they stop the flow?

Be consistent. Once you make a capital-letter choice it helps the reader if you stick with that choice throughout the poem — unless you want to write a poem that misbehaves with punctuation (some poets do! although not that often).



[color=#000099]While poets can choose what rules they choose to ignore and those they don't in there own work, it is important to know what tradition dictates too.[/quote][/b]
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by Nobody: 10:25pm On Dec 25, 2014
Okay...now I do understand
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m): 10:31pm On Dec 25, 2014
So far so good, tonight, we've covered white space, line breaks, stanzas and capitals at the beginnings of lines,

And remember i said the “rules” can be broken, but it’s very very important to know the conventions of poetry well.

So does anyone has any question before I go?
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by Samguine: 10:31pm On Dec 25, 2014
What have I missed? Sorry I came late. Merry Christmas to my fellow students and teachers wink
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m): 10:40pm On Dec 25, 2014
[b] Since no more questions, I wish the NPC Merry Xmas and a blissful and prosperity New Year in advance!
Till I'm back from Senegal next year Jan.
Goodnite!
Walks out of the class unhappy because few students attended the class.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m): 10:41pm On Dec 25, 2014
Since no more questions, I wish the NPC Merry Xmas and a blissful and prosperity New Year in advance!
Till I'm back from Senegal next year Jan.
Goodnite!
Walks out of the class unhappy because few students attended the class
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by Samguine: 10:43pm On Dec 25, 2014
cisse7575:
So far so good, tonight, we've covered white space, line breaks, stanzas and capitals at the beginnings of lines,

And remember i said the “rules” can be broken, but it’s very very important to know the conventions of poetry well.

So does anyone has any question before I go?
What do we use to distinguish line breaks? Commas, colons or instincts?
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by youngcrysta(f): 10:44pm On Dec 25, 2014
cisse7575:
Since no more questions, I wish the NPC Merry Xmas and a blissful and prosperity New Year in advance!
Till I'm back from Senegal next year Jan.
Goodnite!
Walks out of the class unhappy because few students attended the class
pls Dont go yet... still having issue with "line breaks"
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by Samguine: 10:45pm On Dec 25, 2014
cisse7575: Walks out of the class unhappy because few students attended the class.
You wouldn't blame us. You decided to hold your class on Christmas day tongue
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by youngcrysta(f): 10:57pm On Dec 25, 2014
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Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by youngcrysta(f): 10:58pm On Dec 25, 2014
According to one of your posts, The ends of lines or where a line stops is a Line break.

From your example
With his own sword,
which he did wave against my
throat, have ta'en
Are there any other line breaks apart from 'sword'? hope you understand my question?
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m): 11:53pm On Dec 25, 2014
Samguine:
What do we use to distinguish line breaks? Commas, colons or instincts?
[b]Some people believe poetry shouldn't be
punctuated and others are still taught to
put a comma after every new line. So
where is the balance? What does one -
especially one new or growing in poetry -
do? Well, that's simple: a poet must
punctuate with purpose!
In order to punctuate with purpose,
however, a poet must understand two
things: what she wants to achieve with the
poem and what a piece of punctuation can
achieve in a poem. This means a poet must
understand more than the common rules of
punctuation; she must know the effect that
certain punctuation points can have on a
reader or in a text.
This overview tackles punctuation in poetry
from a practical standpoint, but it's
important to note that while there are
"rules" for punctuation, and while there are
even some "rules" for poetry, there are no
set-in-stone conventional rules for
punctuation in poetry. There are schools of
thought, and linguistic philosophy runs
amuck, but there is nothing definitive to say
"This is right!" or "This is wrong!"
With that in mind, please approach the
following as a general guide for making
better decisions about writing.
Remember : real writing doesn't begin until
you stop writing from instinct and start
making decisions.
To Punctuate, or Not to Punctuate: that is
the Question
No Punctuation
When first learning to perform Shakespeare,
many students are (or should be)
introduced to the concept of end-stopped
lines and run-on lines. A good teacher will
explain that his sonnets and plays, though
often (but not always) bound by meter, are
meant to be acted and understood by
following the punctuation - not
(necessarily) the line breaks or rhyme
schemes. It's a difficult concept to grasp,
when beginning to read Shakespeare aloud,
because the end of a line seems like a great
place to pause or take a breath; it feels
natural, based on the way we read prose.
The concept works like this: an end-
stopped line is a line where there is a
punctuation mark or point at the
end. When reading these lines, the actor or
student should pause with the punctuation
- some sort of "stop" at the end - before
moving on to reading or performing the
next line.[/b]
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m):
youngcrysta:
According to one of your posts, The ends of lines or where a line stops is a Line break.

From your example
With his own sword,
which he did wave against my
throat, have ta'en
Are there any other line breaks apart from 'sword'? hope you understand my question?
There are two line break examples in the given passage. The first line break is ta'en. Another line break is used in the fourth line, “I” being a person has an absolute meaning. These line breaks are determining the visual shape of this text.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by texanomaly(f): 1:44am On Dec 26, 2014
Wow...nice class. Sorry I didn't make for the live version. I was traveling.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by Michaeldinho: 7:34am On Dec 26, 2014
I would love to join as a student....Hw can I join??
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by youngcrysta(f): 7:45am On Dec 26, 2014
cisse7575:
based on how you arranged it here:

Sword
My
Taken

Are the ends of lines
Alrightie... Thanks
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by McSterling(m): 8:14am On Dec 26, 2014
cisse7575:
So far so good, tonight, we've covered white space, line breaks, stanzas and capitals at the beginnings of lines,

And remember i said the “rules” can be broken, but it’s very very important to know the conventions of poetry well.

So does anyone has any question before I go?
In the poems you posted in your lecture, do the line breaks only occur where the font is blue?
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by McSterling(m): 8:18am On Dec 26, 2014
texanomaly:
Wow...nice class. Sorry I didn't make for the live version. I was traveling.
Ma, I need your attention here

www.nairaland.com/2059904/crude-poems

Please, tell me how you really feel. I won't be offended.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by cisse7575(m): 8:34am On Dec 26, 2014
youngcrysta:
Alrightie... Thanks
Please I reanswered ur question, it was firstly misunderstood, thus, wrongly answered. It has beeb corrected. Please scroll up to see.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by DeeMain(m): 11:56am On Dec 26, 2014
Late. Just joined!! Register me! Na Lagos traffic hol' me o.

Read all fiaam! Great work teachers!


Having some challenges fully grasping Cisse7575 class.

Can someone else explain the line break concept with more clarity please? I can see from the questions ayam not alone on this.

cc:Laykorn, texanomaly, everestdebliu, donifez.

Thanks a bunch in advance.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by donifez(m): 12:28pm On Dec 26, 2014
DeeMain:
Late. Just joined!! Register me! Na Lagos traffic hol' me o.

Read all fiaam! Great work teachers!


Having some challenges fully grasping Cisse7575 class.

Can someone else explain the line break concept with more clarity please? I can see from the questions ayam not alone on this.

cc:Laykorn, texanomaly, everestdebliu, donifez.

Thanks a bunch in advance.
Line break is that point where a poet creates an ambiguos meaning or creates a more visual picture of what he is saying. It is mostly situated at the left but not in all cases. e.g
with is own sword,
which he did wave against my throat,i have
ta'en
his head from him.
I am absolute;
Twas very cloten.

In the first line break :The word ta'en emphasizes the cutting off of the head.

In the second line break :'I am absolute' has a meaning on its own,but the line break there suggests it can also mean 'I am absolutely sure it was cloten'....so a line break is mostly understood as that point that creates an ambiguos meaning.
And also adds more visuality.

I hope you get my point?
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Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by heayey(m): 12:59pm On Dec 26, 2014
I'm signing up
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by youngcrysta(f): 3:35pm On Dec 26, 2014
cisse7575:
There are two line break examples in the given passage. The first line break is ta'en. Another line break is used in the fourth line, “I” being a person has an absolute meaning. These line breaks are determining the visual shape of this text.
Now I have a little understanding of what you're trying to say... Thanks Tisa Donifez and cisse
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by texanomaly(f): 4:31pm On Dec 26, 2014
McSterling:
Ma, I need your attention here

www.nairaland.com/2059904/crude-poems

Please, tell me how you really feel. I won't be offended.
Done. Sorry it took so long. There are so many poems for review. Btw...I'm no expert.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by McSterling(m): 5:01pm On Dec 26, 2014
texanomaly:
Done. Sorry it took so long. There are so many poems for review. Btw...I'm no expert.
Understood, Ma. But you do seem like an expert. smiley
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by DeeMain(m): 5:59pm On Dec 26, 2014
donifez:
Line break is that point where a poet creates an ambiguos meaning or creates a more visual picture of what he is saying. It is mostly situated at the left but not in all cases. e.g
with is own sword,
which he did wave against my throat,i have
ta'en
his head from him.
I am absolute;
Twas very cloten.

In the first line break :The word ta'en emphasizes the cutting off of the head.

In the second line break :'I am absolute' has a meaning on its own,but the line break there suggests it can also mean 'I am absolutely sure it was cloten'....so a line break is mostly understood as that point that creates an ambiguos meaning.
And also adds more visuality.

I hope you get my point?
Yep! Now this is much much better. Many thanks man.
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by 1miccza: 8:32pm On Dec 26, 2014
McSterling:
Sir, I tagged you, texanomaly, laykorn, donifez and everestdebliu to a poem...still no feedback.
Sorry I didn't see it how do I get to see it?
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by McSterling(m): 9:08pm On Dec 26, 2014
1miccza:
Sorry I didn't see it how do I get to see it?
I guess you're leki10. Here's the link:
www.nairaland.com/2059904/crude-poems#29220149
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by 1miccza: 11:35pm On Dec 26, 2014
McSterling:
I guess you're leki10. Here's the link:
www.nairaland.com/2059904/crude-poems#29220149
Nope I am 1miccza should I still check it out?
Re: Poetry Classes For Beginners - NPC (Signup Thread) by texanomaly(f): 2:05am On Dec 27, 2014
McSterling:
I guess you're leki10. Here's the link:
www.nairaland.com/2059904/crude-poems#29220149
1miccza is a wonderful poet. He can be of great help to you, and all the other students.
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