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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:13pm On Dec 29, 2014
Obi1kenobi:
The analogies you've made don't apply at all. The displaced people were forcefully usurped by superior foes. Here, you have the simple case of a tribe demanding greater inclusiveness in the very lop-sided politics of a state which they contribute a lot to and populate immensely. Nigeria and Africa will eventually evolve past this irrational, antiquated phase, where ethnic origin seems to matter much more than your place of birth or assimilation and productive contribution to the place. We're obviously still caught up in rabid ethnocentrism for a long time to come. These are overrated, unproductive sentiments accorded too much importance. People pretend these sentiments matter more than they actually do, but such fervent ethnocentrism, rather than the positive glue that holds together our identity is just a useful tool for the ruling class - just like religion, that opiate of the masses. The greatest civilizations the world has seen manage to surmount such small-minded ideals. It's no wonder the most backward, sh.it-hole continent on the planet is the most fragmented and tribalistic.
How is Lagos lop-sided, but all the other states in Nigeria aren't? Nah, Nigeria and Africa need to get back to the basics, and study how Europe was able to turn tribalism into something positive, by creating systems that cater to the tribal differences. That's something you and your ilks will never be able to understand cos you're stuck on reaping where you didn't sow - and you have no fundamental understanding of why culture should have always be left intact. You don't force yourself on people, you assimilate and help in the growth. It has to be symbiotic, with mutual respect - not with threats. Too deep for your mental scope, no?

I guess you were alluding to your region in the country since it's the most tribalistic and clannish region. Hence growth has been elusive to the same region. Charity must begin at home.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 29, 2014
grin grin grin grin sir shymex is a true yoruba man,pls tell ur brodas the truth, they would soon label u igbo grin grin grin grin
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:17pm On Dec 29, 2014
aderonila18:
You telling your boy to allow it instead of taking the man on shows you did the same thing you are accusing others of. Why ask the boy to backdown when you are clamoring for Yorubas not to take such statements lying down huh That's hypocritical ,if Igbo people or any other tribe know that saying such things to a Yoruba person will get them a beating that would be more effective . Infact you yourself showed cowardice by letting some say such about your tribe and you didn't take home on . The man will say it to his people that I even said it to their faces and they need nothing undecided. So you are perpetuation the perception
That was just loose talks, and he got the message. Obviously, he didn't know we would take it that seriously since we're not the typical Nigerians. And he was basically talking about some next Yoruba people, he had an argument with at some bar. Anyway, he got the message.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:20pm On Dec 29, 2014
docsholz:
patience bro, there's always a plan
shatap which plan? the plan in an average yoluba mind is owambe and amala, una no fit do anything
[size=48pt]lagos is
a no man's land![/size]
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by VirginFinder: 5:20pm On Dec 29, 2014
waternogeteneny:
U mean people like me dat are already boss. Nigga, i will find u and put u in a box. U will receive virgins at the other side, u need not search no more.

w.t.f!
You are a bastard!

Who dashed you boss?

Only in your deluded mind!!
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:21pm On Dec 29, 2014
sukkot:
and i repeat, its time to come home so you can be deprogrammed from this council estate turf war mentality. wink grin
When they give Yoruba folks their own country, I might think about it. I'm not a big fan of all the whole Nigerian nonsense. The country has destroyed the progression of the Yorubas - it's a bad experiment.

But I don't have a problem with other Nigerian ethnic groups - I fvcks with everyone. Especially Edo/Urhobos and Igbos. I just want to see Yorubas act like they've got balls. Right now, they look like pushovers. Heck, I rate the Itsekiris more than the Yorubas.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by VirginFinder: 5:22pm On Dec 29, 2014
Neplusultra:
Pffttt!! Try again! undecided
Ashewo oshi!
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by docsholz(m): 5:24pm On Dec 29, 2014
ANAMBRA11:
shatap which plan? the plan in an average yoluba mind is owambe and amala, una no fit do anything
[size=48pt]lagos is
a no man's land![/size]
who is this one that is barking grin
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by sukkot: 5:25pm On Dec 29, 2014
SirShymex:
When they give Yoruba folks their own country, I might think about it. I'm not a big fan of all the whole Nigerian nonsense. The country has destroyed the progression of the Yorubas - it's a bad experiment.

But I don't have a problem with other Nigerian ethnic groups - I fvcks with everyone. Especially Edo/Urhobos and Igbos. I just want to see Yorubas act like they've got balls. Right now, they look like pushovers. Heck, I rate the Itsekiris more than the Yorubas.
why do you care anyway ? you are in england and i remember you saying you can never live in nigeria again. so why you stressing over sumtin you aint concerned with anymore ? undecided
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by sukkot: 5:27pm On Dec 29, 2014
ANAMBRA11:
shatap which plan? the plan in an average yoluba mind is owambe and amala, una no fit do anything
[size=48pt]lagos is
a no man's land![/size]
nigga shut your hairy, isi ewu eating, new yam festival celebrating, i have my container on the high seas, a-s-s up before i beat yo a-s-s
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:30pm On Dec 29, 2014
sukkot:
why do you care anyway ? you are in england and i remember you saying you can never live in nigeria again. so why you stressing over sumtin you aint concerned with anymore ? undecided
I said I can never live in Nigeria, with no "again" there. I've never lived there, and based on how it's constructed, with no identity whatsoever - I can't live in a shiithole like that. The country is stuck in abyss, and that's the way it's going to be.

However, you don't want to visit a place Lagos, where you're meant to get a first-hand experience of ya culture, and meet some diluted shiit with all kinds of primitive cultures. Who the hell celebrates Yam? You've got folks clamouring for new yam festival. Next, it's going to be apple festival and all kinds of primitive junk. Just leave the place as it's.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by VirginFinder: 5:31pm On Dec 29, 2014
SirShymex:
So, with all the money they have looted, while turning the whole state into a private estate - he still couldn't resist whatever meagre amount they gave him? Especially when the premise for that is a compromise with a condescending image, no? A lot of these Yoruba folks are Esau/Judas - they'll sell their souls for a plate of porridge. Greedy fvckers! grin Not shocking since Awolowo was betrayed as well.

Oh, so all those cries from Nigeria during the Lagos deporta
Didnt I agree with you that older Yoruba folks(our parents) are far less tribally conscious(you call it softer) than we are? Didn't I use my parents' magnanimity as an example?
However, we the younger generation of Yorubas especially those of us born in Lagos are not!

Thanks to NL. The awareness is on the rise.

Keeping ibos shut out of Lagos politics is a task that must be done!!
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by aderonila18: 5:32pm On Dec 29, 2014
Some of the requests are just foolish huh Asking Lagos state to fund your festivals undecided you don't want government to interfere in the markets undecided all markets are supervised by the government and begging for political positions. They are begging for political positions from APC while they call the Igbos that join APC traitors huh
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:34pm On Dec 29, 2014
VirginFinder:
Didnt I agree with you that older Yoruba folks(our parents) are far less tribally conscious(you call it softer) than we are? Didn't I use my parents' magnanimity as an example?
However, we the younger generation of Yorubas especially those of us born in Lagos are not!

Thanks to NL. The awareness is on the rise.

Keeping ibos shut out of Lagos politics is a task that must be done!!
Nah, the parents aren't. If they were, most of them won't have a problem with folks marrying outside their ethnic group. You can't go to an Igbo house out there, without them changing the language from English to Igbo, once they discover you're Yoruba.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by superstar1(m): 5:36pm On Dec 29, 2014
SirShymex:
How is Lagos lop-sided, but all the other states in Nigeria aren't? Nah, Nigeria and Africa need to get back to the basics, and study how Europe was able to turn tribalism into something positive, by creating systems that cater to the tribal differences. That's something you and your ilks will never be able to understand cos you're stuck on reaping where you didn't sow - and you have no fundamental understanding of why culture should have always be left intact. You don't force yourself on people, you assimilate and help in the growth. It has to be symbiotic, with mutual respect - not with threats. Too deep for your mental scope, no?

I guess you were alluding to your region in the country since it's the most tribalistic and clannish region. Hence growth has been elusive to the same region. Charity must begin at home.
Shymexx baba, where have you been?
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by VirginFinder: 5:40pm On Dec 29, 2014
500GP:
VIRGINFINDER, KEEP THE GOOD WORK. KEEP BASHING THE IBOE. THEY ALWAYS GO BEYOND THEIR BOUNDARY...
Thanks bro!

We must keep these ibos in their rightful place as visitors/strangers/outsiders in Lagos at all cost.

We cant continue to ignore their rants/lies.
When a lie is repeated severally, it becomes the truth.

Shymexx already has a wrong impression of his people just because of the empty boasts he hears from ibos daily.
This is a sad development which must not be allowed to thrive/continue.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:42pm On Dec 29, 2014
superstar1:
Shymexx baba, where have you been?
What's good, bro.? I've been about - just been avoiding threads like this one. Wanted to tell my nygahh "all4naija" to shut up about the nonsense he was spouting everywhere, till I got dragged into it. And I had to just ride that wave.

These folks are funny. Rather than enjoy the peaceful environment they thrive in, they're trying to push whatever agenda they have on everyone. About new yam festival? - GTFOH. grin Who the hell celebrates yam?

Questioning the Eyo festival that represents the history of Lagos is unacceptable.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by 500GP: 5:46pm On Dec 29, 2014
VirginFinder:
Thanks bro!

We must keep these ibos in their rightful place as visitors/strangers/outsiders in Lagos at all cost.

We cant continue to ignore their rants/lies.
When a lie is repeated severally, it becomes the truth.

Shymexx already has a wrong impression of his people just because of the empty boasts he hears from ibos daily.
This is a sad development which must not be allowed to thrive/continue.
I AM VERY SURE THAT YORUBA IN LAGOS; YORUBA INDIGENE AND NON INDIGENE WILL NOT WELCOME THE IDEA THAT IBO SHOULD RULE LAGOS IN ALL RAMIFICATIONS. THE SAME AWARENESS GOING ON NAIRALAND WILL ALSO BE GOING ON IN LAGOS...

YORUBA ARE TOO MEEK. IBOE CAN'T TRY THIS TRASH IN ANY NORTHERN STATES.....
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by lokoloko84(m): 5:47pm On Dec 29, 2014
SirShymex:
I'm not even going to lie, that picture cracked me up. And the fact that he kicked of his campaign with it, shows how weak these folks are. They pander to them too much, hence the sense of entitlement. If he's going to do that with Igbos - he might as well do it with all the other non-Yoruba groups in Lagos, to create a balance.

Yoruba leaders are the problem. They're all rogues who only care about political gains, and selfish interests.
God bless you.The real Yoruba leaders are no more.The likes of Awolowo and Akintola were those leaders.The current leaders are crooks,are just being tolerated because of the present faulty unitary structure.
Even the traditional stools are also part of the problem. They wine and dine with these shameless leaders.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by MrTeymee(m): 5:51pm On Dec 29, 2014
oduastates:
Go and practice that in your own state.
Yorubaland will never be used for "one Nigeria" experiment.
Lmao!!!
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by IgrigiMercenery: 5:52pm On Dec 29, 2014
lowgeorge:
if the gullible Yoloba re soft....pls lettme prove to u Dat I'm ready for anything.....all I need is ur blood on my platter...just a walk in to my barrio...maybe u shall know Dat not just ibos but non youbas ré all sitting on time bomb.....foolish nematode son of a locust.....I don't talk brag or rant like other person lily livered Yolobas Dat sell dere life for porridge....amigo I kill nd I like it.....if you wanna be my prey pls tell me
**grins** Ezekiel Aluko the weed-head. Why didn't you wait when NDLEA came chasing after you in your crackjoint?. We thought you were a Superman. **LMAO**
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by VirginFinder: 5:54pm On Dec 29, 2014
SirShymex:
Nah, the parents aren't. If they were, most of them won't have a problem with folks marrying outside their ethnic group. You can't go to an Igbo house out there, without them changing the language from English to Igbo, once they discover you're Yoruba.
A number of my relations - male and female married non Yorubas.
Nobody resisted them!

Relax bro. Things are NOT that bad.

ibos suffer from long throat, no doubt, and Yorubas know how to deal with them.

A Yoruba woman, Grace Funmi Bent, was a senator in Adamawa between 2007 and 2011. Did Yorubas make any fuss about it? Did they threaten anybody before getting it? Did they have to make up '60%','80%','90%' of the population and 'control' Adamawa economy to get it? Did they poke Adamawa people in the nose and beat their chests as the new 'owners' of Adamawa after getting it?
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

There lies the problem of the ibos!!
It's genetic, honestly.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Neplusultra(f): 5:54pm On Dec 29, 2014
VirginFinder:
Ashewo oshi!
IYANLA IYA E ni ASEWO OSI!! Ndi abulu onu ka unu bu, Umu Esau! Umu oseaka!! Ogaghi adili unu mma!!! undecided
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 6:10pm On Dec 29, 2014
VirginFinder:
A number of my relations - male and female married non Yorubas.
Nobody resisted them!

Relax bro. Things are NOT that bad.

ibos suffer from long throat, no doubt, and Yorubas know how to deal with them.

A Yoruba woman, Grace Funmi Bent, was a senator in Adamawa between 2007 and 2011. Did Yorubas make any fuss about it? Did they threaten anybody before getting it? Did they have to make up '60%','80%','90%' of the population and 'control' Adamawa economy to get it? Did they poke Adamawa people in the nose and beat their chests as the new 'owners' of Adamawa after getting it?
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

There lies the problem of the ibos!!
It's genetic, honestly.
Well, that's ya family. But that doesn't negate the fact majority of parents, based on what I know, still have reservations about certain ethnic groups within Nigeria. Heck, once you look at some of the cultures and all the primitiveness involved - you wouldn't even want to be part of that shiit. grin Anyway, I just cited that as an example. Regardless, women marry out, and men marry in. However, if you're a man, marriage doesn't mean you should lose ya identity. Even personally I'm not too fussed on whoever I marry, cos my identity will remain intact - and my kids will have the same identity.

Whatever you lot do, just leave Lagos out of it. The place represents a lot, and it has no place for new yam, apple, orange or whatever primitive crop festivals. And the language has to be left intact.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Obi1kenobi(m): 6:14pm On Dec 29, 2014
SirShymex:
How is Lagos lop-sided, but all the other states in Nigeria aren't? Nah, Nigeria and Africa need to get back to the basics, and study how Europe was able to turn tribalism into something positive, by creating systems that cater to the tribal differences. That's something you and your ilks will never be able to understand cos you're stuck on reaping where you didn't sow - and you have no fundamental understanding of why culture should have always be left intact. You don't force yourself on people, you assimilate and help in the growth. It has to be symbiotic, with mutual respect - not with threats. Too deep for your mental scope, no?

I guess you were alluding to your region in the country since it's the most tribalistic and clannish region. Hence growth has been elusive to the same region. Charity must begin at home.
Tribalsim had absolute Bleep all to do with advancements in Europe. On the contrary, unifications of fragmented tribes into nation states created a more stable, more ambitious, wealthier, more resourceful imperial Europe, rather than the small-minded African petty tribalistic mentality. Did you say forcing ourselves on people? A demand for social justice isn't forcing yourself on anyone. It's like saying the demand for Black equality in the civil rights movement is forcing themselves on people. Must of all the platitudes about culture people ramble on about are just emotive sentiments peope whip up to create some elusive sense of purpose and being in a hopeless country and continent. on a national scale, it does far more harm than good. Greater transparency, cooperation and unity in tribal relations doesn't mean you have to discard your culture. It's just paranoid nonsense.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by MASCOTECH: 6:17pm On Dec 29, 2014
We sure have a long way to go when it comes to our Religious, tribal/ethnic and Regional sentiments.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Neplusultra(f): 6:20pm On Dec 29, 2014
[b][/b]
Obi1kenobi:
Tribalsim had absolute Bleep all to do with advancements in Europe. On the contrary, unifications of fragmented tribes into nation states created a more stable, more ambitious, wealthier, more resourceful imperial Europe, rather than the small-minded African petty tribalistic mentality. Did you say forcing ourselves on people? A demand for social justice isn't forcing yourself on anyone. It's like saying the demand for Black equality in the civil rights movement is forcing themselves on people. [b][Must of all the platitudes about culture people ramble on about are just emotive sentiments peope whip up to create some elusive sense of purpose and being in a hopeless country and continent.[b][/b]on a national scale, it does far more harm than good. Greater transparency, cooperation and unity in tribal relations doesn't mean you have to discard your culture. It's just paranoid nonsense.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by brutef0rce101: 6:44pm On Dec 29, 2014
IgrigiMercenery:
**grins** Ezekiel Aluko the weed-head. Why didn't you wait when NDLEA came chasing after you in your crackjoint?. We thought you were a Superman. **LMAO**
Welder, all your life you have never make sense. The madness in your blood is now 98%. Rest in pieces
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by dabossman(m): 6:48pm On Dec 29, 2014
sukkot:
i think its too late for that. i am sure the white british dont like going to a place that reminds them of nigeria but hey, they are stuck with peckham grin
Just Peckham? Sometimes it feels like most parts of London. You walk down the streets of Fulham and you begin to wonder if anyone speaks English. Indians, Pakistanis and other nationals everywhere.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by waternogeteneny: 6:48pm On Dec 29, 2014
SirShymex:
Well, that's ya family. But that doesn't negate the fact majority of parents, based on what I know, still have reservations about certain ethnic groups within Nigeria. Heck, once you look at some of the cultures and all the primitiveness involved - you wouldn't even want to be part of that shiit. grin Anyway, I just cited that as an example. Regardless, women marry out, and men marry in. However, if you're a man, marriage doesn't mean you should lose ya identity. Even personally I'm not too fussed on whoever I marry, cos my identity will remain intact - and my kids will have the same identity.

Whatever you lot do, just leave Lagos out of it. The place represents a lot, and it has no place for new yam, apple, orange or whatever primitive crop festivals. And the language has to be left intact.
SirShymex(m): 5:21pm

When they[b] give Yoruba folks their own country[/b], I might think about it. I'm not a big fan of all the whole Nigerian nonsense. The country has destroyed the progression of the Yorubas - it's a bad experiment.

But I don't have a problem with other Nigerian ethnic groups - I fvcks with everyone. Especially Edo/Urhobos and Igbos. I just want to see Yorubas act like they've got balls. Right now, they look like pushovers. Heck, I rate the Itsekiris more than the Yorubas.
Marry from your Yoruba tribe. The children are certain to be yorubas but anything else is not.


If u hate people becos they dont speak ur language then stick and marry people that speak ur language.



Wat is difficult about that or are u just a nuisance? The yoruba that will come to my door for marriage will most certainly be lynched becos something tells me, they are the bigots like shymexx and dayokanu.



They love inter-tribal marriage but not inter-tribal cohesion, but rather seek the subjugation and domination of other ethnic groups.



We know that thing that u think u know better.The fight for igbo place in the governance of Lagos continues.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by VirginFinder: 6:50pm On Dec 29, 2014
Neplusultra:
IYANLA IYA E ni ASEWO OSI!! Ndi abulu onu ka unu bu, Umu Esau! Umu oseaka!! Ogaghi adili unu mma!!! undecided
Egba mi o!

Weren't you the one who told me you were an ashewo by bringing it to this discourse?
Now you are denying your trade.

Ashewo ni e jor!!
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 6:51pm On Dec 29, 2014
Obi1kenobi:
Tribalsim had absolute Bleep all to do with advancements in Europe. On the contrary, unifications of fragmented tribes into nation states created a more stable, more ambitious, wealthier, more resourceful imperial Europe, rather than the small-minded African petty tribalistic mentality. Did you say forcing ourselves on people? A demand for social justice isn't forcing yourself on anyone. It's like saying the demand for Black equality in the civil rights movement is forcing themselves on people. Must of all the platitudes about culture people ramble on about are just emotive sentiments peope whip up to create some elusive sense of purpose and being in a hopeless country and continent. on a national scale, it does far more harm than good. Greater transparency, cooperation and unity in tribal relations doesn't mean you have to discard your culture. It's just paranoid nonsense.
Your retort isn't shocking because you've always shown that you have no knowledge of history. And you're no different from the educated illiterates who decided to model a country like Nigeria, after America.

If tribalism never helped in the advancement of Europe, why do you think systems of governments in Europe were created to recognise the tribal fault-lines, with autonomy/semi-autonomy for everyone? Ukraine is that last bastion on continental Europe, hence it's going through whatever it's going through now. And that's the problem with Africa, and Nigeria in particular, with the fictitious borders - and the utter useless system of government that doesn't give room for self-governance.

I honestly don't know why you're citing illogical examples to buttress your point. What's the correlation between the civili rights movement and indigenous folks co-existing within the same space? So, the struggle between two immigrant groups after the indigenous folks were destroyed can be equated to to this one, no? What rights and social justice are you fighting for in Lagos, questioning the language and tradition of the people, when you have your own region within the same country? How about start with your region, and show others how it's done? Oh, you still have intra-ethnic squabbles you can't fix - but when it's claiming other people's possessions, that's when the inconsequential American junk becomes applicable. It's basically greed and a case of trying to eat ya cake and have it at the same time.

The continent is hopeless cos it's populated by you and your ilk. And rather than analyse the structural problems on the continent, and proffer solutions based on that- you keep adding more problems to it with innate greed. Supreme minds understand the foundation of problems and proffer solutions based on that, while shallow minds copy and paste look for quick fixes everywhere.
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