₦airaland Forum

abbey621:
How's Nigeria modeled after America? Why do you people love bashing the United States, have you all forgotten that the same Britain colonized both countries. You made a lot of sense in you post but abeg leave America out of it.....USA! USA!!USA!!!!

SirShymex:
Bruv, why are your folks always trying to cause trouble in Nigeria?

Aren't they happy with the peaceful co-existence/relationship they enjoy with the Yorubas, cos it seems they only try all these stuffs with the Yoruba. I think certain Igbos group are indigenous to Delta state, yet the state is controlled by the Urhobos. And I'm yet to see Igbos go against them. Ditto Rivers and how the Ikwerres and Ijaws control everything.

However, in far away Yorubaland wh

whitecat2:
Lagos is to Yoruba what Enugu is to ibos. Ibos can't have a say in our local politics. National politics is game.

SirShymex:
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You're a stark illiterate and your idi.otic retort is no different from the emotional impulses which induced the useless letter by your folks. A tree doesn't grow far from its roots after-all. All symptoms of lack of deep-rooted culture, and history.

So, in your obtuse mind - African American immigrants which have their history ingrained in slavery, fighting against social injustices from European immigrants, with an history ingrained in being slave owners can be correlated with a tussle between two indigenous groups, within the same country, no? I think I know a lot about Yoruba history, and I believe Yorubas never owned Igbo slaves. And Lagos wasn't built with slave labour. So, the onus is on you to provide academic proofs that Igbos were once slaves in Lagos, and the place was built with slave labour. Failure to do that would only show how much of an airhead you're.

Also, if you ever passed through the four walls of a school, don't have a fundamental problem with simple English words, and a dissonance with reality and jejune tales - I believe you would know that "immigrants" and "indigenous" aren't interchangeable. Two completely different words. Again, what's the correlation between the tussle in Lagos and the idi.otic example you cited?

Assignment for you, resident airhead:

- List the number of English MPs in the Scottish Parliament, National Assembly for Wales, and Northern Ireland Assembly.

ProfCorruption:
@Remarkable fool,

You can't quote my comment properly. You don't know the difference between apartheid and democracy. Also, you can't differentiate between lying and lieing. Your IQ is too low to warrant a response from me.

Profcorruption ignores an obvious fool.

Obi1kenobi:
You compared the Yoruba situation with Egypt and Native Americans. Again, you didn't apply your pedantism to that analogy, but assume my African-American one must be 100% similar to the situation of Igbos. I'm comparing the rights of the 2 groups to be represented and fully participate in political decisions that govern them and you're comparing their slave status? Who said or implied in anyway that "immigrants" and "indigenes" are interchangeable. Did you see that written or did you come up with it in your convulsive rant just to feel clever?

You mention the word "emotion", but lack the self-awareness to see that all your pathetic, inane rheoric about culture are totally devoid of any reason at all and just based on the same type ofemotions that drive religious nutjobs. As I said before, just a sad, pretentious, delusional poser. The most hilarious kind of idiots are the arrogant ones with no self-awareness.

pazienza:
Ibadan is to Yoruba, what Enugu is to Ndiigbo. Ibadan was the capital of the western region and not Lagos.

VirginFinder:
You are a dullard!
Lagos has always been the melting pot(default capital) of Yorubas long before the Brits came.

pazienza:
You need a brain transplant surgery. Ibadan is the centre of Yoruba civilization both pre colonial and post colonial, it was built solely by Yorubas and is a reflection of Yoruba capabilities. It is the capital of Yorubaland, just like Enugu to Ndiigbo.


Lagos was a British creation that was and continues to be developed by resources from all parts of Nigeria, human and mineral.

SirShymex:
Lol, you're just a blinkered schmuck with the IQ of panda. A perpetual duffer with absolutely no understanding/knowledge of anything, apart from spouting utter ridiculous tripe, all in the urge to satisfy ya innate ethnic greed - and the need to always reap where you didn't sow. If at your age, you can't differentiate between "immigrants" and "indigenous" - how can you even discuss the need for territorial integrity, for peaceful co-existence?

1). I referenced both ancient Egyptians and Native Americans (the historical examples based on timeline that I cited to buttress my point) because the two groups were/are indigenous to their respective lands, just as Yorubas are to Lagos - before they were pushed out by other civilisations. And it was in context of my post.

3). Since you believe in your obtuse mind that the struggle between slave immigrants vs. slave owners is applicable here. How about tell us the period in which Igbos were enslaved in Lagos - and how slave labour was used to build the place?

2). I asked you to name the English MPs in Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland - since you asserted that the British system wasn't built based on tribalism, and the need for tribal self-governance. Just as it's everywhere else in Europe. However, you've refused to answer that. All I got back was an emotional rant like a biitch on her period.

You and your ilk are the reason why progression has been elusive to Nigeria. And it's just a matter of time before it blows up in ya faces, with another xenophobic ethnic cleansing.

Obi1kenobi:
There are very massive differences between Yorubas and ancient Egyptians and very massive differences between the Yoruba situation and native Americans. You keep trying to show why my analogy wasn't perfect even though my context was very clear. And yet, lacking the self-awareness you do, you can't spot why your analogies would not hold up under the same scrutiny. Your 2nd point which you titled as no. 3 is a ret.arded regurgitation that I had already addressed. You

Obi1kenobi:
There are very massive differences between Yorubas and ancient Egyptians and very massive differences between the Yoruba situation and native Americans. You keep trying to show why my analogy wasn't perfect even though my context was very clear. And yet, lacking the self-awareness you do, you can't spot why your analogies would not hold up under the same scrutiny. Your 2nd point which you titled as no. 3 is a ret.arded regurgitation that I had already addressed. Your British example is a load of twaddle. A man with English parents born and raised in the Scottish community would have no crude ethnic-driven obstacles whatsoever in contesting for a parliamentary spot. They would qualify easily as Scottish and wouldn't have to refer to themselves as "English".

Greedy people with small-minded ethnocentric sentiments who whip up the same emotions in their following sheep are one of the greatest obstacles to progress in Nigeria.

And good lord, do you ever read your posts? You sound like a 12-year-old or a ret.ard - except you can muster up good spelling. You sure have a lot of growing up to be. An utterly juvenile cretin.

SirShymex:
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You're a stark illiterate and your idi.otic retort is no different from the emotional impulses which induced the useless letter by your folks. A tree doesn't grow far from its roots after-all. All symptoms of lack of deep-rooted culture, and history.

So, in your obtuse mind - African American immigrants which have their history ingrained in slavery, fighting against social injustices from European immigrants, with an history ingrained in being slave owners can be correlated with a tussle between two indigenous groups, within the same country, no? I think I know a lot about Yoruba history, and I believe Yorubas never owned Igbo slaves. And Lagos wasn't built with slave labour. So, the onus is on you to provide academic proofs that Igbos were once slaves in Lagos, and the place was built with slave labour. Failure to do that would only show how much of an airhead you're.

Also, if you ever passed through the four walls of a school, don't have a fundamental problem with simple English words, and a dissonance with reality and jejune tales - I believe you would know that "immigrants" and "indigenous" aren't interchangeable. Two completely different words. Again, what's the correlation between the tussle in Lagos and the idi.otic example you cited?

Assignment for you, resident airhead:

- List the number of English MPs in the Scottish Parliament, National Assembly for Wales, and Northern Ireland Assembly.

superstar1:
Shymex, you have really changed the rule of the game with these fla.thead.s.

they are airheads, therefore civility does not exist in their lexicon. What they understand are insults and outright denigration.

SirShymex:
What's good, bro.? I've been about - just been avoiding threads like this one. Wanted to tell my nygahh "all4naija" to shut up about the nonsense he was spouting everywhere, till I got dragged into it. And I had to just ride that wave.

These folks are funny. Rather than enjoy the peaceful environment they thrive in, they're trying to push whatever agenda they have on everyone. About new yam festival? - GTFOH. Who the hell celebrates yam?

Questioning the Eyo festival that represents the history of Lagos is unacceptable.

all4naija:
You are a primitive person. That clearly defines your entire life. Yoruba people can as well celebrate the Eyo festival in USA if they want to but have to let the government know about it. I don't know why you are so high when you hear anything about gangsta life. Please, try to change your way and embrace a civilized life. Jeez! I am not impressed by your barbaric nature.

SirShymex:
Vacuous rant by a primeval village git. So, English people born in Scotland are automatically Scottish, no? I guess Tony Blair must be Scottish then, yes? Typical of a gift that keeps on giving. You're a stark illiterate! Stick to ya village fables, with ya fellow primeval dunderheads like the ones who wrote this idi.otic letter.

Also, Yorubas being indigenous to Lagos is different from native Americans and ancient Egyptians being indigenous to their respective lands, no? You brain dead bonobo - you need a brain transplant.

Isn't it shocking that you can't even correlate one example with all the emotional spiel you posited, you half-baked oaf. Anyway, I'm still waiting for the history of Igbo slaves in Lagos, and the answer to my assignment, little crying freeman.

SirShymex:
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Suck ya mum's pink pum, since that ish took ya identity away from you, you mixed breed neanderthal with recessive genes.

VirginFinder:
You are a dullard!
Lagos has always been the melting pot(default capital) of Yorubas long before the Brits came.

Obi1kenobi:
Yes, identity in civilized climes is a personal choice. An English man raised in Scotland who feels Scottish can identify as Scottish and vice-versa, just like an English man raised in America, Australia, or New Zealand or Canada can identify with those countries. Tony Blair is whatever the hell he identifies himself as depending on his feeling. Yorubas are not getting conquered by an invading colonial force like the native Americans or Egyptians. Can you really not see how the analogy is far from a perfect one you utterly delusional clown? You're nitpicking at the similarities that suits your argument and ignoring those that don't. Yet, the clown keeps going on about slavery in comparing African-Americans with Igbos and can't see any similarities at all in campaigns for equal opportunities. You can't pick and choose the boundaries of the argument as you like. The moroooon will still regurgitate his fatuous comparisons and distinctions with no sense of irony. Like banging your head against a brick wall.

There is no history of slaves in Lagos and no one said they was. It's not my fault you're impervious to reason in a clearly expressed point.

SirShymex:
So, identity is a personal choice, no? Do you even know what an identity is?

In as much as you lack basic understanding of the drivel you're spewing, but are the Igbos in this letter, despite being in Lagos identifying Yorubas? Or are they trying to shove their own identity/culture down their throats, on their in their own territory? (Don't run from this one again).

Fvcking start illiterate, what don't you understand in my comparisons between one indigenous group, to the other? Are you that brain dead that you don't understand what context is?

And oh, Tony Blair can pick and choose whatever identity suits him. However, when he was campaigning for PM - he made sure he emphasised his English identity, and being born by two English parents - in Scotland. Though he was adopted and raised by a Scottish family. Like I told you earlier, this is far too broad for ya limited mental scope. Stick to ya village fables with ya fellow primeval yokels.

Basically, your folks weren't slaves, but you just wanted to throw the slave immigrants vs. immigrant slave owners in there, no?

Anyway, when are you going to start preaching equal opportunities in ya region? You can't even practise equal opportunities within the same ethnic group - go to bed.

all4naija:
Yolk! Now I know you are living a thug life in Peckham. Stay away from guns and drugs so that you might live long. That is my only advice to you. You have nothing good to offer Nigeria than troubles! Buzz off, you housefly!

SirShymex:
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Tell ya pops to stick to eating amala and stop breeding confused mixed fvckers everywhere with no identity whatsoever, you albino plonker and trailer trash dwelling piece of shiit.

And tell ya trailer trash mum to stay off crack.

all4naija:
Leave my family out of this and stop being a sisi. Talk to me as a man that you are! You've just proved you have no good home-training with this your post. That is sad thing to know about you. Thug life is not going to change anything about the situation in Nigeria, gangsta! I don't find that interesting, mister!

SirShymex:
So, identity is a personal choice, no? Do you even know what an identity is?

In as much as you lack basic understanding of the drivel you're spewing, but are the Igbos in this letter, despite being in Lagos identifying Yorubas? Or are they trying to shove their own identity/culture down their throats, on their in their own territory? (Don't run from this one again).

Fvcking start illiterate, what don't you understand in my comparisons between one indigenous group, to the other? Are you that brain dead that you don't understand what context is?

And oh, Tony Blair can pick and choose whatever identity suits him. However, when he was campaigning for PM - he made sure he emphasised his English identity, and being born by two English parents - in Scotland. Though he was adopted and raised by a Scottish family. Like I told you earlier, this is far too broad for ya limited mental scope. Stick to ya village fables with ya fellow primeval yokels.

Basically, your folks weren't slaves, but you just wanted to throw the slave immigrants vs. immigrant slave owners in there, no?

Anyway, when are you going to start preaching equal opportunities in ya region? You can't even practise equal opportunities within the same ethnic group - go to bed.

Obi1kenobi:
Yes, it's a personal choice. At least, it is in civilized climes. Many who identify themselves as Americans, Aussies, Canadians etc are first or 2nd generation citizens. Your family could spend 3 generations in a place in Nigeria and you amd your descendants would never be assimilated into any culture that is not of your ethno-linguistic group. The difference is very clear, however much you insist in your ret.arded parallels and analogies. I understand what context is. Your failure to see the parallels in my own analogies betrays your total lack of context. And your loose cobbling up of history to suit an argument, with your unique distortions and lack of context betrays this too.

You keep abusing my people and their culture. More signs of a juvenile, uncultured tw.at. The British have a greatly respected education sector but it clearly can't help you. You're clearly hopeless.

lowgeorge:
if the gullible Yoloba re soft....pls lettme prove to u Dat I'm ready for anything.....all I need is ur blood on my platter...just a walk in to my barrio...maybe u shall know Dat not just ibos but non youbas ré all sitting on time bomb.....foolish nematode son of a locust.....I don't talk brag or rant like other person lily livered Yolobas Dat sell dere life for porridge....amigo I kill nd I like it.....if you wanna be my prey pls tell me

SirShymex:
So, identity is a personal choice, no? Have you ever heard about nationality, and the differences between an identity and a nationality? And why are you citing immigrants in America, Canada, and Canada to buttress your point? Why not cite Basques, Sicilians, Catalonians, Scots, Welsh, Irish etc..?

You're an idi.ot and there's absolutely no correlation in what you cited and what's being discussed. The only parallels there are like parallel lines that will never meet.

Anyway, you just dodged another simple question I asked you.

I reiterate: are the Igbos in this letter, despite being in Lagos identifying as Yorubas? Or are they trying to shove their own identity/culture down their throats, in their own territory? (Don't run from this one again).

Pillock, you can call other folks all kinds of name just because they want to maintain their territory integrity/culture. However, when I asked you to tell ya own people that charity begins at home, and you should go sort out ya intra-ethnic squabbles before preaching tolerance and equality to other folks.You started crying wolf. Not shocking cos it's ingrained in ya DNA - throw stones, hide ya hands, and play the blame game. About culture - do you even know what a culture is? Oh, you celebrate yams, isn't it? Just STFU about being cultured - you wouldn't even know that is, even if I were to smack ya face with it.

Aldrickay:
I tot u igbos said lagos is no mans land, why complaining of maginalizatn in lagos state by the yorubas??

Hav also said dat d igbos are nt wise bt greedy.

instead of writtin jona and ur south east governors to help frm out ur biafra frm darkness were ojukwu kept it ur ar here draggin anoda mans property wit him!! Shame to you igbos.

Did any body beg u to invest in lagos?
Why nt invest in ur biafra.
Or dnt u wana hv ur biafra anymore?
even if ur biafra is landlock cnt use ur so call wise brain to mk something out of it, or ar u igbos no wise as u claim?

i pity yoruba pple na dem dey allow ana get mouth to dey talk all dese nonsence.

You igbos should come to port harcourt (ikwerre land) and make dis silly statement and see wat the ikwerres and oda ethnic group xpecially d ijaws and ogoni pple will do to you. Metcheeeeeeeew.

think!!!!! igbos think!!!!
Nigeria is no more stable are u think.
Back to ur state and develop it 4 ur children nd stop insultin ur selfs. Thanks.

Obi1kenobi:
Do you know the ethic make-up of the Catalan or Basque or Sicilian governments or are you simply presuming it's like the Lagos situation? I already asked you before and you keep bleating about it: who is shoving their identity or culture down your throat and how are they going about doing this? Is asking for greater participation in governance akin to asking that you discard your culture and identity? What elements of this culture and identity have you been asked to discard? You keep mentioning irrelevant crap about my people. If a similar topic comes up about Yorubas in the SE, I'd still be making the same points. My purpose was never to vilify any tribe, and I never did so, but to question why any Nigerian cannot fully participate in the politics of his residence. I'm not a juvenile reprobate like you and I have no time for stupid Igbo vs Yoruba e-battles.

We celebrate yams?! Oh, the shame! You must really feel clever with that line, eh? I guess all the food festivals around every corner of the world celebrating everything from artichoke and asparagus and garlic and mushrooms to beer and wine - like the highly popular Tomatina festival in Spain (where they just throw tomatoes)- are all acts of a savage human civilization. Who cares about centuries old traditions where people celebrate the harvest of a significant staple in their culture? I guess if an irrelevant street thug and internet warrior says so, it must be true. As I said before, an utterly uncultured, crude degenerate. You have a lot of growing up to do.