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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 3:05pm On Dec 31, 2014
cjrane:


Nigeria and doing things haphazardly. I totally understand the need to start with a few stations for now. But, instead of having just one coach, the could have 2. One will be the express train going from Enugu-PH non-stop, while the other will stop at every train station. Stopping at every train stain helps build up loyal clientele and will help evacuate agricultural produce, which boosts the local economy.

Anyhow, i still thank God that they have finally started plying the route again. They should make the train line dual carriage, so that trains can move in both directions at the same time. Instead pf waiting for one train to reach PH and return before boarding a second trip from Enugu-PH.

We used to have the express trains and the local back in the days. The express trains even stop at Nomeh station in the eighties to collect farm produce to PH.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 3:08pm On Dec 31, 2014
From the front of the truck.....

Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 3:10pm On Dec 31, 2014
Road resurfacing at New layout Enugu, near Edinburgh road this week. .......

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 3:10pm On Dec 31, 2014
spyder880:
From the front of the truck.....

Only God himself prevented people from dying in this disaster.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 3:11pm On Dec 31, 2014
biafrandream:

This might sound stupid but I think this guy is making a lot of sense. If our villages are so wonderful, why don't we live in them. I want our villages to be completely overhauled. Modern agriculture should be adopted to create jobs. Americans, Brits and every developed world live in their villages, but we abandon ours to abroad and return there seasonably. It is a clear evidence that our system is not working and should be changed. If I have my way, all our villages should be fumigated against deadly reptiles like snakes and scorpions and then I will introduce, harmless animals like antelopes to move freely in our grasslands. That was what the whiteman did to make their land look like paradise. I thank God, people are thinking.
the guy makes no sense..people are nit living much in their villages due to mordern economic issues of trying to 'live better life' and at times the belief that the grass is greener on the other side..eliminate snakes?part of the ecological system?are you willing to also eliminate all the rats and frogs that these snakes help to reduce their population?replace them with antelopes? From where?when you say antelopes do you mean local variety like mgbada that prefers thick vegetation to open grasslands or do you mean the Sudan or sahel savanah types that probably would not survive out tropical rain forest region?why these type of thinking?have all the diamond back rattlesnakes being eliminated from rural Texas and surroundings before Americans settled there?would Americans even think of it ?where are there conservation efforts to maintain and increase numbers of endangered or decreasing numbers of animal species no matter how deadly and poisonous they are?I wonder where you get the idea that that is what oyibos did but I can tell you oyibos are regretting some past actions they did...

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 3:12pm On Dec 31, 2014
cjrane:

Only God himself prevented people from dying in this disaster.

God is good, nobody died.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 3:12pm On Dec 31, 2014
spyder880:
Road resurfacing at New layout Enugu, near Edinburgh road this week. .......

So Sullivan nwa Mama is still working for Enugu state? Even after they frustrated his senate ambition?

Chai, this man is a COMPLETE BLESSING to Enugu state!

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 3:16pm On Dec 31, 2014
asha80:
the guy makes no sense..people are nit living much in their villages due to mordern economic issues of trying to 'live better life' and at times the belief that the grass is greener on the other side..eliminate snakes?part of the ecological system?are you willing to also eliminate all the rats and frogs that these snakes help to reduce their population?replace them with antelopes? From where?when you say antelopes do you mean local variety like mgbada that prefers thick vegetation to open grasslands or do you mean the Sudan or sahel savanah types that probably would not survive out tropical rain forest region?why these type of thinking?have all the diamond back rattlesnakes being eliminated from rural Texas and surroundings before Americans settled there?would Americans even think of it ?where are there conservation efforts to maintain and increase numbers of endangered or decreasing numbers of animal species no matter how deadly and poisonous they are?I wonder where you get the idea that that is what oyibos did but I can tell you oyibos are regretting some past actions they did...

Thank you for your points, I wonder how we could be thinking of killing snakes and replacing them with antelopes, the village neighbours will just eat them up. cheesy Please leave the villages as they are to develop on their speed.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 3:21pm On Dec 31, 2014
spyder880:
Road resurfacing at New layout Enugu, near Edinburgh road this week. .......
The roads are usually free this period of the year when people have moved to the villages. That's why spyder had the gut to take this pic at the centre of the road wink That's Edinburgh road tho', Ogui New layout.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 3:25pm On Dec 31, 2014
biafrandream:




This might sound stupid but I think this guy is making a lot of sense. If our villages are so wonderful, why don't we live in them. I want our villages to be completely overhauled. Modern agriculture should be adopted to create jobs. Americans, Brits and every developed world live in their villages, but we abandon ours to abroad and return there seasonably. It is a clear evidence that our system is not working and should be changed. If I have my way, all our villages should be fumigated against deadly reptiles like snakes and scorpions and then I will introduce, harmless animals like antelopes to move freely in our grasslands. That was what the whiteman did to make their land look like paradise. Our villages should be made economically viable instead of leaving it in it's pristine cosmetic state. I thank God, people are thinking.


I don't think the guy was making any sense suggesting the demolition of villages.
It is like saying bleach everyone's skin so that we all look white and you will stop racism.

Sometimes children should be ignored.A good 40-50% of Nigerians still live in the rural areas. Most of the retired teachers that taught you in primary and secondary schools have left Enugu and returned to their country homes in order not to pay rent in the city,when they have no job there.

Our cities are already crowded due to years of neglect, if you demolish the villages, where will you put the sudden 40-50% jump in the city's population? He would soon advise that we should create firing squad parties of soldiers to execute all of them so that they won't go and crowd the cities further.

What we need is more infrastructure, roads,electricity, small scale industries in the villages to help people live there comfortably. That is why i am frustrated that the new Enugu-PH train isn't stopping at the various rural stations. If they did, people can stay in their villages and smoke fish, plant yams,cocoyam,vegetables,cashews and then put them on a train and supply PH and Enugu, without needing to live there and ride okada or become an agbero or even an armed robber just to have a job in the city.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by londoner: 3:26pm On Dec 31, 2014
The village just needs some attention, that's all.

Even the bushy areas, they can be maintained. I also dont agree with the killing of snakes etc and the perception that oyibo people kill all snakes and other 'nasties' is actually untrue. In Australia, they have many deadly snakes and spiders, they dont just kill them all. They educate people on how to live with them.

I think many Nigerians don't appreciate delicate balance that exists within nature. Even in the UK and around the world, the same oyibo people are actively promoting the protection and promotion of bees. Not because of honey, but because of what they have discovered about what this stinging insect actually performs in relation to the rest of nature, including humans.

Oyibo have their forests (bushy areas) as well as fields, many of which are actually protected by law. I am actually in the Lake District in Cumbria now. The vast majority is actually declared a national park, to protect it. This includes forest.

Not everywhere should look like a town. There must be places that are kept closest to their natural states.

IMHO both in the village and city, there should be a program for tree/flower planting and maintenance.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 3:28pm On Dec 31, 2014
spyder880:


Thank you for your points, I wonder how we could be thinking of killing snakes and replacing them with antelopes, the village neighbours will just eat them up. cheesy Please leave the villages as they are to develop on their speed.
I tire for that kind thinking...improving agricultural techniques,comprehensive construction of access road to,within and fro these villages,presence of basic amenites like electricity and water are the things that would bounce some dormant villages to life..my village was quite notorious for no light until last yr when all the bad transformers were changed and new ones installed and almost automatically the economic activities in the village bounced back to life...access roads had never been a problem and it helped the situation....i laugh at the thought of levelling villages and relocating them to towns I mean like the way red Indians were done some centuries back?which villagers especially in the se would tolerate that?as for killing snakes and replacing them with antelopes smh.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 3:30pm On Dec 31, 2014
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 3:36pm On Dec 31, 2014
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 3:38pm On Dec 31, 2014
spyder880:


Thank you, but how possible is it to actively overhaul all villages, expanse of land covering several square miles to be rehabilitated at once? Well, let us for one minute consider the possibilities, how can we move millions of people from their ancestral homes to a foreign city where the culture or habit is completely different from what they have been used to from birth?

I think such changes are too radical and may achieve the wrong results.

centje:
I believe you're joking grin
The vegetation of an entire town should be changed Kill all snakes Did you study Geography at all?? Have you ever heard: 'protecting animals on the verge of extinction' My dear, No matter how much we crave for beauty, our ecosystem cannot be jeopardised.

It's possible to plan and beauty every town, that should be the aim, everyone mustn't move to the main city. Facilities in the city can't even withstand such population...well, I guess you really don't understand what you just posted.

He is the product of copying oyibo people blindly.
Nigerians visit abroad the first time and they think the white-man just built his country yesterday and therefore want the entire Nigeria demolished and built up immediately within one week! grin

The white-men had villages worse than our own now. In the 1600-1800, their villages were godforsaken places. As they continued to develop and get richer, they improved infrastructure, got telephones and hospitals and did landscaping with trees to make villages become suburbs of cities. The dude obviously didn't know that history.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by londoner: 3:49pm On Dec 31, 2014
Sandd:
the Nigerian forest is simply disorganized and has to be replanted in order.
Nigerian climate and atmosphere requires man made modifications.

I totally disagree with you. I understand there sometimes need to be intervention by humans, which happens anyway. However I think you have a vision for nature that is totally unnatural. Maybe your more of a city guy, so maybe you will find it difficult to interact with nature without attempting to dominate it.

Forests occur naturally. Or do you think they were planted by the white man in their country? Forests are a product of natures design and are home to many creatures. In Nigeria, there are quite a few bird species that are native to us and can not be found elsewhere.

Even when forest fires are used to clear land, nature is what grows it back most times and it is not humans that go along, with our self imposed vision of perfection to replenish it by planting each seed 10cm apart lol.

Your Obudu pics and comments are makng me suspect that you are actually joking a small bit. You are using a resort swimming pool to prove what point? Obudu Ranch is a resort, nestled in nature. Yes I agree there needs to be work on roads and infrastructure, but nature is what makes Obudu beautiful, or are you suggesting all those hills, valleys, streams of Obudu are a product of human interaction.....really?

But if you want to clear your village, no worries.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 3:51pm On Dec 31, 2014
This is the same thoughtless All4naija guy that every picture of SE disturbs his eyes grin . Please ignore.

Imagine posting surburbs of Los Angeles and Obudu Cattle ranch as villages? The guy must be high grin

Are these not villages in Europe?

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 3:55pm On Dec 31, 2014
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 4:12pm On Dec 31, 2014
Sandd:
first of all, i'm not all4naija . second of all,who cares if the European villages look like that? can't you think for your own self ? my idea is not based on anywhere. i am a visionary . If I had the power I would implement my vision and kill anyone who doesn't agree with the simple common sense . my way is the right way .
the only logical solution is to exterminate those who oppose progress.

Chai, you mean to kill people who oppose your ideas? Are you Hitler?

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 4:14pm On Dec 31, 2014
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 4:17pm On Dec 31, 2014
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 4:24pm On Dec 31, 2014
Sandd:
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Its good you edited your former statement. Good.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by londoner: 4:51pm On Dec 31, 2014
Lol, its clear Sandd is just having fun being "contoversial".......lol
wink wink

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by biafrandream: 7:13pm On Dec 31, 2014
londoner:
The village just needs some attention, that's all.

Even the bushy areas, they can be maintained. I also dont agree with the killing of snakes etc and the perception that oyibo people kill all snakes and other 'nasties' is actually untrue. In Australia, they have many deadly snakes and spiders, they dont just kill them all. They educate people on how to live with them.

I think many Nigerians don't appreciate delicate balance that exists within nature. Even in the UK and around the world, the same oyibo people are actively promoting the protection and promotion of bees. Not because of honey, but because of what they have discovered about what this stinging insect actually performs in relation to the rest of nature, including humans.

Oyibo have their forests (bushy areas) as well as fields, many of which are actually protected by law. I am actually in the Lake District in Cumbria now. The vast majority is actually declared a national park, to protect it. This includes forest.

Not everywhere should look like a town. There must be places that are kept closest to their natural states.

IMHO both in the village and city, there should be a program for tree/flower planting and maintenance.



Please how many snakes or scorpions have you seen on the road or in the woods, since you started living in England? If have not seen one before, ask yourself why. Granted that here in England, people keep snakes in their homes, but it is by choice and the owners take proper care of them. I grew up in the village and I can tell you how many times I had scorpion sting while growing up there. I know a lot of victims of snake bite as well. If we want to embrace modernity, it should be in all it's entirety. We cannot accept everything that civilization has to offer and not think of improving on our environment. The white people especially here in the UK move freely in the woods or forest because they are not afraid of being bitten by any dangerous reptile. Can you comfortably move around the bushes in our villages without seeing all manner of snakes. The answer is no. Our environment needs to be cleaned up and if you want snake, you can keep them in your house or in the zoo, that's what people do here in the UK. By cleaning up our villages, I don't mean falling all the trees or paving all the roads but at least the government should help in making our villages properly maintained and rid it of dangerous snakes. It's all about sustainability.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 7:22pm On Dec 31, 2014
biafrandream:



Please how many snakes or scorpions have you seen on the road or in the woods, since you started living in England? If have not seen one before, ask yourself why. Granted that here in England, people keep snakes in their homes, but it is by choice and the owners take proper care of them. I grew up in the village and I can tell you how many times I had scorpion sting while growing up there. I know a lot of victims of snake bite as well. If we want to embrace modernity, it should be in all it's entirety. We cannot accept everything that civilization has to offer and not think of improving on our environment. The white people especially here in the UK move freely in the woods or forest because they are not afraid of being bitten by any dangerous reptile. Can you comfortably move around the bushes in our villages without seeing all manner of snakes. The answer is no. Our environment needs to be cleaned up and if you want snake, you can keep them in your house or in the zoo, that's what people do here in the UK. By cleaning up our villages, I don't mean falling all the trees or paving all the roads but at least the government should help in making our villages properly maintained and rid it of dangerous snakes. It's all about sustainability.

I have never been bitten by snakes in any of the villages I have stayed in Nigeria. Snakes are the very least of my worries when going to anyway in the village. I have seen scorpions in my house in the city instead. Maybe we need to kill all the scorpions in the city first cheesy

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 7:26pm On Dec 31, 2014
I have watched National Geographic channels and Animal planet where monkeys invade cities and steal fruits and goods from homes in foreign countries, and they have not killed all the monkeys, if the same thing happens in Enugu, people will shout "kill the whole monkeys to make the place good"

Is this not a case of double standards? grin

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 7:32pm On Dec 31, 2014
biafrandream:



Please how many snakes or scorpions have you seen on the road or in the woods, since you started living in England? If have not seen one before, ask yourself why. Granted that here in England, people keep snakes in their homes, but it is by choice and the owners take proper care of them. I grew up in the village and I can tell you how many times I had scorpion sting while growing up there. I know a lot of victims of snake bite as well. If we want to embrace modernity, it should be in all it's entirety. We cannot accept everything that civilization has to offer and not think of improving on our environment. The white people especially here in the UK move freely in the woods or forest because they are not afraid of being bitten by any dangerous reptile. Can you comfortably move around the bushes in our villages without seeing all manner of snakes. The answer is no. Our environment needs to be cleaned up and if you want snake, you can keep them in your house or in the zoo, that's what people do here in the UK. By cleaning up our villages, I don't mean falling all the trees or paving all the roads but at least the government should help in making our villages properly maintained and rid it of dangerous snakes. It's all about sustainability.

@ the bolded,
I live in the United States and i have seen many snakes in peoples' yards and houses.I have also witnessed people running away from snakes in a public park more than twice.
In the hospital where i work, we have treated people with anti-snake venom serum for snake bites in the park.

Now, unless you want to say England is more developed than the United states. In that case, I will not touch that side because English people themselves, not immigrants to their land, know the truth.

Now, i agree with you about the need to have home pest control and kill dangerous snakes because i have seen roaches even in the houses of the very wealthy. Not to say it doesn't exist in the USA either. Just in a smaller scale. grin

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 7:42pm On Dec 31, 2014
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ASL33: 7:46pm On Dec 31, 2014
all4naija:

Smh...!The environment is disturbing my eyes. That is it!
Then remove your ear b4 you go blind.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 9:43pm On Dec 31, 2014
spyder880:
The staff quarters, last painted when some people were not born yet grin
Lol
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 9:44pm On Dec 31, 2014
Sandd:
I am glad that you understand exactly what i'm talking about . I like progressive minds , not this backward educated illiterates. they probably practice witchcraft and voodoo and dont like anything good .

back to topic; I think cloud seeding should also be used to condense the clouds so that there'll be more days with cloudless blue skies.I dislike the fact that its constantly cloudy. the dirty murky streams or lakes should be emptied or dried up and rebuilt in form of a large swimming pool lake like the photo below .
I don't care if it's done in Sweden ,USA or England . this is my personal vision that i think should be implemented,period. I think God granted us intelligence to dominate and take care of beautiful nature and modify imperfect nature. that is why we shave our body,shower everyday ,mow lawns and plant flowers,etc.

this 20 acre lake (the largest swimming pool) in Chile was built by Crystal Lagoons . a 90 acre lake in dubai is being built by the same company. $200,000 per acre.



grin I like the cloud screeding part, at least we need to condense all the clouds over Enugu grin

What else do we need to do, pull down the moon to rest in the bushes of Enugu south? grin

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