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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by proffemi: 8:36am On Jan 03, 2015
Jwonder:
Yes i agree we deserve better than GEJ but it can never be GMB, NEVER! ..gimme someone else and i will jump out of GEJ's boat but for now. GEJ 2015 till buhari realizes he is about to fail again.

Guy, I probably have more reasons to hate GMB than you do. Last time, I said "lai lai! I can never vote for Buhari". However, the hallmark of a sensible man is that he allows logic, rather than emotional outbursts, to dictate his actions.

On which necessary yardstick for good leadership does GEJ trump Buhari? What about the converse?

I think the biggest problem we have as a nation right now is runaway corruption. It has rendered everything else moot. There can be no doubt that we, as a people, are smart. However, when you remove the linear relationship between hard/honest work and reward, social, economic and political chaos is what results. This is the legacy of Jonathan's Nigeria.

Is GMB more likely to fight corruption successfully than GEJ? Your honest answer to that is:...?
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Montaque(m): 8:38am On Jan 03, 2015
proffemi:


Welcome my brother. Just like you, I used to avoid commenting on politics, but its our country too, dammit!

Saying you have spoken the minds of 60% to 70%: don't you think that is a function of your sample size, spread, and demographic?

Why don't you let's do it this way: could you try to list the few most important qualities or attributes that you believe a Nigerian president should have? Perhaps if we can agree on such a list, we would be better placed to identify which candidate is the best of a bad lot.

For me: a Nigerian president:

1. Doesn't need to be the smartest , but he MUST be a good judge of character
2. Must above all else, have strength of character (and by extension, must be able to lead)
3. Must be honest
4. Must be able to select an excellent team, but be ready to project his beliefs to "keep them honest"

I'm sure I've left out a few things, but some omissions are deliberate.
yeah, you left out a few things,and sadly the most important. You left out the legal qualifications.
Just like a self righteous man who has not heard about Jesus christ,and yet wants to make heaven.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by proffemi: 8:38am On Jan 03, 2015
Sermwell:
Will you stop being dumb...
A man who calls me dumb for no reason is not worthy of being addressed. In fact, I would be ashamed to be in the same camp as a man who is unable to conduct civil discourse.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by datribune: 8:39am On Jan 03, 2015
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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Montaque(m): 8:40am On Jan 03, 2015
proffemi:


Guy, I probably have more reasons to hate GMB than you do. Last time, I said "lai lai! I can never vote for Buhari". However, the hallmark of a sensible man is that he allows logic, rather than emotional outbursts, to dictate his actions.

On which necessary yardstick for good leadership does GEJ trump Buhari? What about the converse?

I think the biggest problem we have as a nation right now is runaway corruption. It has rendered everything else moot. There can be no doubt that we, as a people, are smart. However, when you remove the linear relationship between hard/honest work and reward, social, economic and political chaos is what results. This is the legacy of Jonathan's Nigeria.

Is GMB more likely to fight corruption successfully than GEJ? Your honest answer to that is:...?
sorry to intrude,but do u honestly believe that corruption is the major problem we have in Nigeria?

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by yinkeys(m): 8:42am On Jan 03, 2015
Sermwell:

Will you stop being dumb? @proffemi Did You just call buhari an honest man? So what do you call a man !
Why are you calling a whole professeur dumb. Isn't it not too early for that
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Jwonder(m): 8:42am On Jan 03, 2015
victree007:


Yeah I get u bro. These people have so many questions to answer u know. Always politicizing everything. Am sure if stealing was corruption things would have been better lol

Is this suppose to be funny!
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by datribune: 8:43am On Jan 03, 2015
Jwonder:


Lolzz!! The only CLUELESS person here is d man who gave his original certificate to his employers.











GEJ 2015 till buhari goes back to school

d reason we call GEJ clueless has nothing to do wit certificates. It's because when it comes to leading & governing our nation he really doesn't know what he's doing. He is d weakest, most corrupt & effeminate leader in our history.
MUST D GENERAL HAV D CERTIFICATES WIT HIM AT ALL TIMES?. He attended d institution dat is now called d NDA. He is an alumni of d highly-rated US war college & many more courses.
No matter what GEJ & d PDP bring up, we can not repeat d mistake of "I had no shoes of 2011 in 2015". We will vote massively to defeat d clueless one at d polls. SAI BUHARI

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by ibisko04: 8:43am On Jan 03, 2015
OliviaPope:
Hope they will not blame Jonathan for stealing Buhari's non-existent certificates grin Because these APC are capable of anything. Bunch of grade A losers!
Are you people now saying Buhari have no certificates. At least counted, he was a former head of state, a former minister, a former military governor and goc in the army.
So who are the people that are so desperate about Buhari paper qualification.
If at worst he is paperless as you people want us to believe, on the job experience is more valuable than all the papers qualification in this world.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by proffemi: 8:44am On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
yeah, you left out a few things,and sadly the most important. You left out the legal qualifications.
Just like a self righteous man who has not heard about Jesus christ,and yet wants to make heaven.

I have said in my first post that "the law is the law". In making my list, it is of course assumed that a man meets the legal requirements to be president, and an implicit assumption of my debate with you is that GMB is qualified (you can see in my first post that I suggested that GMB's candidature *can* fail if he is not qualified).

So what say ye bro: assuming Mr Buhari does have his certificate, do you agree with my list above, and where you do not, could you indicate? This might provide a better way of logically evaluating who would make a better president than the histrionics going on on both sides of the divide.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by 4everisaac(m): 8:49am On Jan 03, 2015
Lol
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Bluepamex: 8:49am On Jan 03, 2015
playpaz:
Olodo wan rule over us

He will never ,that was in d 80s and far back

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by proffemi: 8:49am On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
sorry to intrude,but do u honestly believe that corruption is the major problem we have in Nigeria?

Yes o.
Our people are smart, and capable of hard work. But when you introduce short cuts and remove a man's incentives for hard work, chaos ensues. If every Nigerian - in every walk of life - had reason to believe his hard work would translate to success (and that cheaters would be punished), THEY , not the president, would improve every walk of life through their hard work.

Of course insecurity is a big problem, but (a) it's a global problem (b)our local version is again exacerbated by corruption. I will bow to a superior argument, if you have one.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by knightsTempler: 8:50am On Jan 03, 2015
Trailblazer1:
Buhari is only a retrogressive change.



After watching his Christmas message I couldn't help but weep for my beloved country. All in the name of change we have stooped so low to accept gabbage as change. The man was having difficulty reading a Screened message.
What amazes me is how some intellectuals still queue behind him.

I want to go forward please.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Nobody: 8:50am On Jan 03, 2015
most of the people here do not even try to read between the lines. Even if the ''source'' said they are not with the originals it means they are with something but not the originals. They keep copies as backup and for record purposes. Buhari must have said the army has his documents because Sambo said his gpt burnt and only wanted to send the PDP on a wild goose chase since without any investigation INEC accepted Sambos word. Besides Sambo was GEJs vice in 2011 and his house wasnt burnt before his installment as VP so does that mean that INEC never demanded for his educational records back then?

You all dont seem to know that anytime u hear Buhari thos and Buhari that its all the handwork of GEJ and PDP because they know the man is a real threat this time. A man whom without funding or campaign got over 12million votes in 2011 how much more now with resources at his disposal. PDP will use anything and everything in their arsenal of dirty politics to discredit Buhari. I am very sure that if they could kill him they would. PDP keeps shooting themselves in the foot everytime they make a statement against Buhari. I am sure they are perfecting even their last resort which is the ever popular Rigging techniques they always apply.

As an ibo man to the core I endorse GMB for 2015
God keep me and my family alive to witness a great wind of change blow over Nigeria once again under Buhari. I am so anxious for this.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Jwonder(m): 8:51am On Jan 03, 2015
datribune:


d reason we call GEJ clueless has nothing to do wit certificates. It's because when it comes to leading & governing our nation he really doesn't know what he's doing. He is d weakest, most corrupt & effeminate leader in our history.
MUST D GENERAL HAV D CERTIFICATES WIT HIM AT ALL TIMES?. He attended d institution dat is now called d NDA. He is an alumni of d highly-rated US war college & many more courses.
No matter what GEJ & d PDP brings up, we can not repeat d mistake of "I had no shoes of 2011 in 2015". We will vote massively to defeat d clueless one at d polls. SAI BUHARI







Then why is he finding it hard to bring his certificate and silence everyone.. Oh!!!


He doesn't have any

And for the bold part, i won't say anything, I will take it that u made a mistake and will let you correct that

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Tayomi37(m): 8:54am On Jan 03, 2015
I cant but just wondering why GMB can go to this extent. If it's pry 6 he have why cant he produce it, certificate is not important but lieing about what he doesn't have made his INTEGRITY a questionable one

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Fieldops: 8:54am On Jan 03, 2015
During the early days in the nigeria military the originals of their documents were being held to prevent them from absconding since it was a kind of by force recruitment. Just a possibility though lipsrsealed

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by aauwalu80: 8:54am On Jan 03, 2015
wht wuld u do wth him certificate? we Dnt need it as of now we nid th savin of an innocnt soul right away. if u wnt to chop certificat or if na certificate go sav u. wht does th certifict. of GEJ do? for all ths year, who evn knw or cares GEJ go to schul? Ee nevr though. so let's see if u ar among d suppots. of ths innocnt killgs. go vote for Lion.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Montaque(m): 8:55am On Jan 03, 2015
proffemi:


I have said in my first post that "the law is the law". In making my list, it is of course assumed that a man meets the legal requirements to be president, and an implicit assumption of my debate with you is that GMB is qualified (you can see in my first post that I suggested that GMB's candidature *can* fail if he is not qualified).

So what say ye bro: assuming Mr Buhari does have his certificate, do you agree with my list above, and where you do not, could you indicate? This might provide a better way of logically evaluating who would make a better president than the histrionics going on on both sides of the divide.
am not a TANist nor ever will. I hope that answers ur question.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by jmaine: 8:56am On Jan 03, 2015
arsetalks:
to the contrary, exposing him will be an opportunity to send a message that if corruption was hitherto allowed in the army, it is no longer allowed.

And the army is above the laws of the land? Na, if Buhari lied ( off which I am sure you know he did not), he has committed a crime punishable by law and should be punished but off course you know he didn't lie hence no punishment.

Nobody is beyond lies , he is human. People are already accusing the Military of dancing to the tune of GEJ since he is CIC, irrespective of the calculated silence of the Military in the whole scandal.

Lai Muhammed has already cited that it is an assault on the Military simply because questions are being rightly asked on the legality of Buhari claims.

I believe time shall tell what the true position is when the intensity increases.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by kross01(m): 8:57am On Jan 03, 2015
ibisko04:

Are you people now saying Buhari have no certificates. At least counted, he was a former head of state, a former minister, a former military governor and goc in the army.
So who are the people that are so desperate about Buhari paper qualification.
If at worst he is paperless as you people want us to believe, on the job experience is more valuable than all the papers qualification in this world.
I'm surprised you'll say this sir, but isn't the two supposed to go hand in hand? Or would you rather employ the illiterate black market foreign currency dealer who has practiced the trade since infancy than one who studied say banking and finance with a little over three years practical experience in forex dealings? I'ld love to weigh your response

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by ochejoseph(m): 8:58am On Jan 03, 2015
But for the amendment to the electoral Act Buhari Ineligibility to Contest will never be known!

Now credentials are been scrutinised and published and those who want to Use the armed forces to stabilise the price of Crude in the global market are been exposed!

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Ela59: 8:59am On Jan 03, 2015
If GMB can scape through the issue of certificate or if there is any constitution back up PDP we loose many back up.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by lookingfly: 8:59am On Jan 03, 2015
harrysterol:
[size=30pt]Buhari ur certificate

or.... cool


U never went to school
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yes,he must produce his certificate abi una don see where see where person due look for job and no get certificate.a beg we don't tire for mediocrity for this country,less for once show the world that we can do the right thing.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by datribune: 8:59am On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
I had a standard education that a contemporary Nigerian youth can attain. Me,you and many others must stand up for what is proper and civilized irrespective of APC/PDP fued. The laws of the land is obvious on this matter,if you feel it doesn't matter,then I can tell u that you are not civilized. No offence please.
Insist on the right thing for posterity's sake.
FYI, I don't support GEJ due to his style of Governance.

Listen u ar an educated person & should be able to smell a pasted story in d news when u see one. d story did not originate frm d nigerian army but frm a name-less source. How credible is dat?. What happened to getting stories frm d official source?. INEC has even confirmed they hav no problem wit Buhari's affidavit. Must he hav his credentials wit him at all times?. If he wanted to lie, will it not be foolish to tell a lie dat can be verified?.
Of course d law is important & must always apply but what I guarantee u is dat dis pasted story is just dirty politics.
How did he bcom an alumni of d US war college or an alumni of d institution dat is now called d NDA. BTW, His course mates ar still alive.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Malawian(m): 9:02am On Jan 03, 2015
Ngasky:

When was the photocopy and computer application start playing role in civil service? It is in the 1980's. In the 1960's and 1970's theres nothing like photocopy machine. So everything has to be the original only. And that time for any federal appointment you have to submit your original not photocopies. Lots of certificates from individuals were lost in the records office of the federation. Let the military come out and discredit him and take him to court

before photocopies, there was something called duplicate & triplicate copy. try again.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Jwonder(m): 9:03am On Jan 03, 2015
aauwalu80:
wht wuld u do wth him certificate? we Dnt need it as of now we nid th savin of an innocnt soul right away. if u wnt to chop certificat or if na certificate go sav u. wht does th certifict. of GEJ do? for all ths year, who evn knw or cares GEJ go to schul? Ee nevr though. so let's see if u ar among d suppots. of ths innocnt killgs. go vote for Lion.


I dnt really understand d jargon u wrote up their but i could only get the bold part and i will explain to you



Will need an educated man, someone who understands the dynamics of the modern world, someone who would take well informed decisions.

Am sure u don't understand all this


Bros abeg, just leave that ur almajiri skul and enter western education, it will help you. So you won't end up like #BuhariDLair

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Vikky014(f): 9:03am On Jan 03, 2015
Kenai:


Mumu, that guy you're quoting just blasted Buhari and APC in that post.
Read it again. grin
Chai. Buhari supporters really no sabi book.
CHAI CHAI CHAI!!!!
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by OrlandoOwoh(m): 9:04am On Jan 03, 2015
great664:
Raxnegro Zaedd and all APC and Buhari supporters, this one nor suppose delay or involve the military in the first place, if he has it then produce it or just admit you don't have it, Let's say its true he submitted the original to the military, why submit original cert. to ur employer, Is that not foolishness and highest CLUELESSNESS, so if they sack you how will you search for other job(s)? Or una wen dey blame the Military, I hope na una employer hold una Original Cert? In Politics you can devise any means to make your opponents lose, Buhari and co should stop whining and seeking public pity and produce the certificate no matter what means they use in getting it, and find a way to disqualify Jonathan too, that's Politics, so APC don't cry, play politics or park well
Nothing has changed in our Electoral Acts since 2011 when Buhari contested, why is this fuss by INEC and the Nigerian Army all about? May I tell you, PDP/GEJ has failed.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by brigadier747: 9:04am On Jan 03, 2015
Some of you on NL as just as clueless as your present administration GEJ led govt ,only using machineries to detract his opposition ,GMB has right to lay claims from d army for his certificate cos at some point he was a student at d NMS and later the NDA and later an employee,his institution of studies r same as his employers all original duplicate of all regular course of d NDA can always b retrived at request

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