Why are you reporting rumour? What are you looking for?

PassingShot:



Barcanista, you come across as a mole in the camp of progressives.

Don't honestly understand d guy sometimes. D way he is quick to rationalize some of the obvious partisan defenses of GEJ is confounding.
Anyway, tagging him a mole might seem a bit harsh.

mrborntodoit:


You are coming back to your senses little by little but your NO 1 theory,I disagree with because it's too obvious and no opponent in his right senses will kill a man that released a common statement of result .

However,you refused to consider the fact that the APC stands to gain more from this scandalous blackmail hereby exposing your person as biased .

The number one point, though least likely among the three, yet cannot be ruled out. Investigations should never be restricted if we are to expect result. As for who stand to gain more, I don't think any of them does. While APC supporters will seek to make people see it as an attempt to silent anything that will vindicate them, the PDP supporters will want people to see it as an attempt to blackmail the President and the party. At the end, both have to explain to the public. It benefit no one.

I am very careful when taking position on issues like this, because of God and my conscience.

PassingShot:



Very wrong analysis!

How is the first possibility "unlikely" when you clearly wrote "It is either he was killed by the President's foot soldiers so as to "teach him a lesson". Just because there are other ways a government or its agents can deal with enemies does not make this option less preferable especially if it is carried out by GEJ's sympathizers/foot soldiers.

Funny enough, the 2nd possibility which is highly unlikely is what you call "very possible". How easy it is for an anti-Jonathan element to decide to kill the principal just to win sympathy for Buhari or blackmail Jonathan in a campaign that clearly shows that Buhari is ahead?
How callous does it appear, that a man who released Buhari's result and saved him from ridicule will be killed by a friend of APC/GMB? Does it make any logical sense to you?

Your 3rd point needs no counter. However, it's better not to comment sometimes instead of contradicting yourself just so you appear neutral about an issue.

Barcanista, you come across as a mole in the camp of progressives.

So just because Barcanista said something reasonable you have started hating. I'm not surprised, hating has always been your trademark.
Barcanista I like your objective analysis of the likely scenario. Cheers bro Happy Sunday.

PassingShot:



Very wrong analysis!

How is the first possibility "unlikely" when you clearly wrote "It is either he was killed by the President's foot soldiers so as to "teach him a lesson". Just because there are other ways a government or its agents can deal with enemies does not make this option less preferable especially if it is carried out by GEJ's sympathizers/foot soldiers.

Funny enough, the 2nd possibility which is highly unlikely is what you call "very possible". How easy it is for an anti-Jonathan element to decide to kill the principal just to win sympathy for Buhari or blackmail Jonathan in a campaign that clearly shows that Buhari is ahead?
How callous does it appear, that a man who released Buhari's result and saved him from ridicule will be killed by a friend of APC/GMB? Does it make any logical sense to you?

Your 3rd point needs no counter. However, it's better not to comment sometimes instead of contradicting yourself just so you appear neutral about an issue.

Barcanista, you come across as a mole in the camp of progressives.

Barcanista is not a mole....... He's just a guy between the devil and the blue deep sea...... He has to choose between the love for this country and his love for Ijawland.

He's far sighted..... He understands the repercussions if this news is true and it goes viral. He understands why every sane Nigerians must kicked Jonathan out of that seat.

barcanista:
How true is this "news"? If true, there are three possibilities...

1. He was killed by the President's footsoldiers so as to "teach him a lesson" or
2. He was killed by an anti-Jonathan element to blackmail the President. Or
3. He was killed by a rival who had personal beef with him, but took advantage of the political situation to avoid suspiction.

POSSIBILITY
The first is somehow unlikely as there are other ways a government "deal" with perceived enemies other than killing especially when the situation is of this magnetude. If this is the case, the perpetrator may be one of the President's foot-soldiers but without the endorsement of the President or his team.

The second is very likely to happen, especially with the kind of politics of blackmail and desperation we play here. However, the anti-Jonathan element that may have carried done it could be a member of the PDP, APC or any other party. If the perpetrator is an APC member, It is likely that he did it without the backing of the Buhari Camp, because the principal was helpful to Buhari's cause in putting record straight.

The third is also very likely to happen.

The onus lies on the Police....


*i hope the news is false though*

One of the very few sensible APC supporters

@ Berem Come on why are you guys countering Barcanista? Is it because he didn't say what you always want to hear? He did well in his analysis of the likely scenario. Happy Sunday sis

barcanista:
@ Passingshot: one thing I've never sought in life is approval of my actions and positions. I don't seek people's approval, I state things as I feel and make amends if I'm convinced I was wrong without looking for who to please. Several times, I have been called names from "fellow" progressives all because I have a different opinion on some issues. Anyway, it isn't a thing of concern. Your calling me a mole is the MOST foooolish position ever from a "progressive". Mole for what? Am I in the employment of anybody? Is there a code of conduct that was signed by us to always have uniformed opinion on nairaland? Fyi, I'm not even a card-carrying member of APC or any other political party. My staunch support for Muhammadu Buhari and the APC is 100% out of patriotism and not partisanship neither is it because I'm benefitting something from somebody. What makes me a "mole" then? Is there any "secret" meetings that we do have? What exactly makes me a mole? That a PDP man called obasanjo supports Buhari makes him a APC mole? Sometimes, you need to look up to meaning of words and stop appearing foolish.

I would have responded to your counter points but your last paragraph was enough discouragement.

Be careful and know where to draw the line!!!

Sorry for calling you a mole but your reaction was the most illogical thing I've read from you. There are certain logical submissions one would expect from the progressives even though we don't all have to agree on every issue. Just as no one pays you is the same way I am not paid by anyone. I belong to no party.

And you needn't throw caution to the wind because of using that word on you. You could have voiced your displeasure without all the ranting.

doctokwus:

Don't honestly understand d guy sometimes. D way he is quick to rationalize some of the obvious partisan defenses of GEJ is confounding.
Anyway, tagging him a mole might seem a bit harsh.

My position is very clear! I listed three possibilities, I neither accused GEJ nor GMB in all three points raised. I am very careful when taking position on issues, hence, I look at things from different perspective. I am not anti-GEJ, but I am pro-Buhari. However, my conscience is always my guide. Just this morning, truckpusher called me a "traitor" because my comment wasn't favorable to him, a Jonathanian. At the same time, passingshot called me a mole because my comment on this thread wasn't anti-Jonathan nor was it entirely pro-APC. We have serious problem in this country with the way we play our politics. We need to respect people's position whether friends or foe, and counter with points without making unnecessary allegations and name calling.

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201208050061.html/

Nigeria: Boko Haram Kills Former
President's Host, Rejects Peace Move
5 August 2012 , By Aruga Joe Omokaro and Maxwell Oditta,
Source: The Moment
IT was a rude shock for former President Olusegun Obasanjo
yesterday as Boko Haram hardliners killed his host in Maiduguri,
the Borno State capital.
In what seems a strong message of rejection of Obasanjo's
peace overtures, gunmen suspected to be members of the
fundamentalist Islamic group killed Baba Kura Alhaji Fugu, the
eldest son of the late Baba Fugu in broad daylight.
Fugu met with Obasanjo on Thursday to discuss the plight of the
family left behind by the late leader of Boko Haram, Mohammed
Yusuf. News of Baba Kura's murder by Boko Haram militants
broke out last night. The Moment On Sunday leant that Baba
Kura had just concluded a press interview and was meeting with
his family members, when his mobile phone rang.
He was reportedly shot dead when he stepped out from the
meeting to answer the call. Borno State Commissioner of Police
(CP) Simeon Midenda confirmed yesterday evening that Alhaji
Fugu 'was shot dead at about 1.30pm'. According to Midenda,
the killers apparently were not happy with the press interview
he granted. He said no arrest has been made but that
investigation has commenced.
Controversy had deepened earlier in the day over Obasanjo's
surprise visit to the family of the slain leader of the violent Boko
Haram sect.
Contrary to the widespread impression that the trip was a
private initiative by Obasanjo, The Moment on Sun-day learnt on
good authority that it might have been part of a secret strategy
being worked out by government to solve the problem.
'The trip was part of the recommendations of a panel set up by
the top hierarchy of the Nigeria Police to investigate the Boko
Haram crisis and proffer a solution to it,' a usually reliable
source said.
'There's no way Obasanjo could have gone to Maiduguri without
the knowledge of the Presidency,' the source added.
Obasanjo, it would be recalled, had during his visit to the family
home of Yusuf on Thursday held a closed-door meeting that
lasted two hours with with family members. The former
president who arrived Maiduguri alongside a Kaduna-based
human rights activist, Comrade Shehu Musa of the Civil Liberties
Organisation (CLO) was received by state government officials
and the eldest son of the slain father-in-law of late Yusuf, at
their demolished house- hold behind the railway quarters,
Maiduguri.
He reportedly told the meeting that he merely came to condole
with the family over the killing of their breadwinner and finding
a lasting solution to the lingering crises and bloodletting in the
country.
Shehu Sani of the Human Rights Com- mission brokered the
meeting. It would be recalled that Yusuf was allegedly executed
by policemen in the wake of the crises in Maiduguri in July
2009. His followers said the recent bombings and gun raids in
Borno, Abuja and other parts of the country are meant to
avenge Yusuf's killing. The ex-President, who was ac- companied
to the rendezvous by a thick retinue of security officials, insisted
that everyone should wait outside the building as he intended to
hold the meeting privately.
However, reliable source within the former President's retinue of
aides said Obasanjo's trip was far from being a condolence visit.
He was said to have gone to appeal to the members of the
family to beg Boko Haram members to sheathe their swords and
end the spate of bombings in the country and informing
President Goodluck Jonathan of the outcome of the visit.

PassingShot:



Very wrong analysis!

How is the first possibility "unlikely" when you clearly wrote "It is either he was killed by the President's foot soldiers so as to "teach him a lesson". Just because there are other ways a government or its agents can deal with enemies does not make this option less preferable especially if it is carried out by GEJ's sympathizers/foot soldiers.

Funny enough, the 2nd possibility which is highly unlikely is what you call "very possible". How easy it is for an anti-Jonathan element to decide to kill the principal just to win sympathy for Buhari or blackmail Jonathan in a campaign that clearly shows that Buhari is ahead?
How callous does it appear, that a man who released Buhari's result and saved him from ridicule will be killed by a friend of APC/GMB? Does it make any logical sense to you?

Your 3rd point needs no counter. However, it's better not to comment sometimes instead of contradicting yourself just so you appear neutral about an issue.

Barcanista, you come across as a mole in the camp of progressives.

Dude, so if I chose not to take sides in my analysis, you would also call me a mole?? Many of us are shouting APC because of the love we have for GMB not because we are paid or we are card carrying member of APC.
That's why we are always objective in our analysis..

This can't be true

barcanista:

Be careful and know where to draw the line!!!

+20,000 likes.

It really seem that Passingshot is collecting some kind of monetary reward for always spewing trash and I didn't know until now that you are not on their payment list. I doff my hat at your passion wherever your loyalty lies.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/12/breaking-news-military-helicopter-crash-in-bayelsa/

A troubled helicopter conveying sympathizers to a funeral in
Bayelsa state, burst into flames on Saturday, before plunging
into the creeks, killing the governor of Kaduna state, Patrick
Yakowa, a former National Security Adviser, Owoye Azazi, and
four others in the nation’s fourth air disaster this year.
Messrs Yakowa and Azazi, and their aides, Dauda Tsoho and
Mohammed Kama; and the pilots, Murtala Daba and Adeyemi
Sowole, reportedly died in the inferno, having been badly
burnt beyond recognition, witnesses say.
The chopper, owned by the Nigerian Navy, is said to have
carried out repeated shuttles between Port Harcourt, Yenagoa
and Okoroba, a town in Ogbia local government of the state,
where the father of an aide to President Goodluck Jonathan,
Oronto Douglas, was being buried.
The fatal trip, which was to convey the governor and the
former Security chief to Port Harcourt, enroute Abuja, was to
be one of the helicopter’s last for the day.
But at about 2.30 p.m., minutes after takeoff, officials say, the
chopper crashed, sparking an emergency crisis, and plunging
a shocked nation, well-known to air disasters but unused to
them, back to fright and mourning.
Last picture of Governor Yakowa and Gen Azazi alive…
Photo: Cosmas Asogwa
President Jonathan said in a statement he was shocked and
saddened by the accident, and said the losses were “extremely
painful” for the nation.
“The President extends deep and heartfelt condolences to the
families and friends of the deceased, and the governments and
people of Kaduna and Bayelsa States,” the statement said. “He
describes the sudden loss of these distinguished Nigerians as
extremely painful to the entire nation.”
The president was away from Bayelsa, his home state, when
the incident occured. Mr. Jonathan has ordered an
investigation.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/111388-ill-fated-helicopter-exploded-before-crashing-killing-yakowa-azazi-four-others.html

coolhamid:
Dude, so if I chose not to take sides in my analysis, you would also call me a mole?? Many of us are shouting APC because of the love we have for GMB not because we are paid or we are card carrying member of APC.
That's why we are always objective in our analysis..

I already withdrew that word.

It was because of the very illogical analyses which were contradicting one another. We don't all have to take same position on issues but our submissions must flow logically.

Candyrain:
+20,000 likes.

It really seem that Passingshot is collecting some kind of monetary reward for always spewing trash and I didn't know until now that you are not on their payment list. I doff my hat at your passion wherever your loyalty lies.

Did his submissions flow logically? It's either yes or no.

It may interest you to know that I don't belong to any party and I am very blessed and contented to be paid for supporting a candidate. On this forum, I have condemned Fashola, Tinubu, OBJ, Wole Soyinka etc. based on the action of the time.

I also maintain that Buhari was far from being the best person to lead Nigeria at any normal time but he is far better than GEJ.

Peace.

[size=14pt]Anyone who doubted for an instant the murderous desperation of Nigeria's Boko Haram terror gang leader Weeping General Buhari should read this latest news story, digest it, and hopefully then begin to fathom the true demonic character of the serial loser Buhari, so as to vote wisely to make DAMNED sure that the presidency of Nigeria does not fall into the hands of this profoundly evil and sadistic monster, Buhari, for the rest of all time.[/size]

PassingShot:


Sorry for calling you a mole but your reaction was the most illogical thing I've read from you. There are certain logical submissions one would expect from the progressives even though we don't all have to agree on every issue. Just as no one pays you is the same way I am not paid by anyone. I belong to no party.

And you needn't throw caution to the wind because of using that word on you. You could have voiced your displeasure without all the ranting.

okay! I apologise for the uncivil words, I will make amends of my first response to you. Two wrongs can never make a right, I sincerely apologise.

PassingShot:


Sorry for calling you a mole but your reaction was the most illogical thing I've read from you. There are certain logical submissions one would expect from the progressives even though we don't all have to agree on every issue. Just as no one pays you is the same way I am not paid by anyone. I belong to no party.

And you needn't throw caution to the wind because of using that word on you. You could have voiced your displeasure without all the ranting.

why can't you allow the young man be. He took time off andd came back refreshed annd sound, BARCANISTA IS BACK so I recommend you ask him to tell you how he did it so that you can also try it out.

PassingShot:


Sorry for calling you a mole but your reaction was the most illogical thing I've read from you. There are certain logical submissions one would expect from the progressives even though we don't all have to agree on every issue. Just as no one pays you is the same way I am not paid by anyone. I belong to no party.

And you needn't throw caution to the wind because of using that word on you. You could have voiced your displeasure without all the ranting.

Oh because he's a progressive then he should just come out and say "GEJ killed him", right? Have you asked yourself what if it was either the 2nd or his 3rd scenario that played out? Progressive indeed. SMH for you.

PassingShot:


I already withdrew that word.

It was because of the very illogical analyses which were contradicting one another. We don't all have to take same position on issues but our submissions must flow logically.

Words are like broken eggs that can not be mended back to shape! Passingshot, Barcanista just exposed you for what you are. Hateful "progressive". . .lol mole Cos of different opinions on issues. That's one problem you guys in APC posses.

luvmijeje:


Barcanista is not a mole....... He's just a guy between the devil and the blue deep sea...... He has to choose between the love for this country and his love for Ijawland.

He's far sighted..... He understands the repercussions if this news is true and it goes viral. He understands why every sane Nigerians must kicked Jonathan out of that seat.

Thanks a lot

barcanista:
@ Passingshot: one thing I've never sought in life is approval of my actions and positions. I don't seek people's approval, I state things as I feel and make amends if I'm convinced I was wrong without looking for who to please. Several times, I have been called names from "fellow" progressives all because I have a different opinion on some issues. Anyway, it isn't a thing of concern. Your calling me a mole is the MOST foooolish position ever from a "progressive". Mole for what? Am I in the employment of anybody? Is there a code of conduct that was signed by us to always have uniformed opinion on nairaland? Fyi, I'm not even a card-carrying member of APC or any other political party. My staunch support for Muhammadu Buhari and the APC is 100% out of patriotism and not partisanship neither is it because I'm benefitting something from somebody. What makes me a "mole" then? Is there any "secret" meetings that we do have? What exactly makes me a mole? That a PDP man called obasanjo supports Buhari makes him a APC mole? Sometimes, you need to look up to meaning of words and stop appearing foolish.

I would have responded to your counter points but your last paragraph was enough discouragement.

Be careful and know where to draw the line!!!

Ladies and gentlemen of Nairaland, the progrethieves have started fighting themselves and throwing blame punches at one another when the ominous failure of their messiah is yet to be delivered. With this kind of crack in their wall, they will surely draw daggers at one another before February 14th. Passingshot, berem the witch take note!

175:


Words are like broken eggs that can not be mended back to shape! Passingshot, Barcanista just exposed you for what you are. Hateful "progressive". . .lol mole Cos of different opinions on issues. That's one problem you guys in APC posses.

Bro, let it slide. Sometimes, we say things that we don't mean! That was what played out.

what! ......are u okay? Rest in peace? And u said is uncomfirmed.....something is wrong wit u

If there's any of the camps that wishes the principal death is the APC. There are so many irregularities and implicating issues on the released statement of results.

It was an embarrassment to them. One would think that releasing the result would stem the already aggravated issue but no, it escalated it.

barcanista:
How true is this "news"? If true, there are three possibilities...

1. He was killed by the President's footsoldiers so as to "teach him a lesson" or
2. He was killed by an anti-Jonathan element to blackmail the President. Or
3. He was killed by a rival who had personal beef with him, but took advantage of the political situation to avoid suspiction.

POSSIBILITY
The first is somehow unlikely as there are other ways a government "deal" with perceived enemies other than killing especially when the situation is of this magnetude. If this is the case, the perpetrator may be one of the President's foot-soldiers but without the endorsement of the President or his team.

The second is very likely to happen, especially with the kind of politics of blackmail and desperation we play here. However, the anti-Jonathan element that may have carried done it could be a member of the PDP, APC or any other party. If the perpetrator is an APC member, It is likely that he did it without the backing of the Buhari Camp, because the principal was helpful to Buhari's cause in putting record straight.

The third is also very likely to happen.

The onus lies on the Police....


*i hope the news is false though*

u always type rubbish and guess u are even a jobless youth. Pls get a job and better ur lot. Even a ward chairman of APC dnt even know u. Fool at january

PassingShot:


Did his submissions flow logically? It's either yes or no.

Oh it did 1000% flow logically. He was neutral here and looked at what could make both parties (PDP & APC) do something like this and also from the point of the principal's enemy taking advantage of the state of the nation. His submission is perfectly logical bro.

frankyychiji:
Ladies and gentlemen of Nairaland, the progrethieves have started fighting themselves and throwing blame punches at one another when the ominous failure of their messiah is yet to be delivered. With this kind of crack in their wall, they will surely draw daggers at one another before February 14th. Passingshot, berem the witch take note!

Sorry to cut short your celebration, there is no crack within the walls of the progressives. It's a family affair and has been resolved, thanks to the intervention some of well meaning people of this forum. As for FeBuhari 14, that is a forgone issue as Buhari will be elected. What we should be talking is how to contribute ideas to the Buhari-led government in order to help him achieve result at the end of his 4years tenure.

barcanista:
[s]How true is this "news"? If true, there are three possibilities...

1. He was killed by the President's footsoldiers so as to "teach him a lesson" or
2. He was killed by an anti-Jonathan element to blackmail the President. Or
3. He was killed by a rival who had personal beef with him, but took advantage of the political situation to avoid suspiction.

POSSIBILITY
The first is somehow unlikely as there are other ways a government "deal" with perceived enemies other than killing especially when the situation is of this magnetude. If this is the case, the perpetrator may be one of the President's foot-soldiers but without the endorsement of the President or his team.

The second is very likely to happen, especially with the kind of politics of blackmail and desperation we play here. However, the anti-Jonathan element that may have carried done it could be a member of the PDP, APC or any other party. If the perpetrator is an APC member, It is likely that he did it without the backing of the Buhari Camp, because the principal was helpful to Buhari's cause in putting record straight.

The third is also very likely to happen.

The onus lies on the Police....


*i hope the news is false though*[/s]

Why this long epistle over an unconfirmed report?

Someone should confirm it .......




Make i siddon dey observe first....

this is a highly stu.pid and outrageous thread. The poster is an idiot for posting this and moderators have failed woefully in their duty in allowing the thread to progress.

Poster, if the news is unconfirmed, such a news of highly sensitive nature, why not wait for it be confirmed before you rush a d put up on Nairaland. This irresponsibility of the highest order.