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| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by jnrbayano(m): 12:33pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
cococandy:What's wrong with the Op? |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by iamord(m): 12:41pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
PastorOluT:same goes to you |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by KoloOyinbo(m): 12:49pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Joavid:Yes and they will be talking like that for thousands more years to come. The Bible is Gods message to us and the uneducated are fond of picking out verses IN ISOLATION. Do remember that many books were omitted because the early Church did not like (or understand) their messages. Two Church Councils decided on a different set of books (Canon). What if they made a mistake? Both cannot be correct so one of them did in fact err! Also what about Mark Ch16 Verses 9-20. These verses DO NOT APPEAR in the original manuscripts (this is marked up in many Bible translations but is easily verifiable as the early writings are still preserved) They are a product of the translators penchant to give a sort of summary after the main writing ( a Hebrew literary trait). So please look at the message as a coherent whole and do not be swayed by these 'literalists' with their poor and pedantic misinterpretations. Use prayer and your God given common sense. Also God gave us a conscience so we know if we are doing wrong (don't confuse sin with transgression of social norms) so judge the TV programmes for yourself. Is watching TV a sin? |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Nobody: 12:56pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
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| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Elbisco(m): 3:18pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
teemanbastos:I thought Jesus would come before anti CHRIST AND TRIBULATION |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by maylisa(f): 3:19pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
brocab: |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by cococandy(f): 3:29pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
jnrbayano:lots of hogwash |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by jnrbayano(m): 3:32pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
cococandy:I disagree dear. There's sense in it. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Sweetmarriage: 3:36pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
5minsmadness:I love things you say here bro. For such things coming to your mind, i think it meant God has big assignments for you. I think it is high time you take your relationship with God much serious. First change your username. Then, make the Bible your friend. Read, study the Bible regularly. I did and God used it to work wonders in my life. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by cococandy(f): 3:42pm On Feb 01, 2015*. Modified: 6:42pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
You do realize all those things are figments of someone's active imagination? Right? Do you know how many times I've imagined what it would be like if God didn't send satan away from heaven as the scriptures depict. How many times I've imagined what it would be like if Angels and humans were of the same plane and communicated/interact like beings of the same species. If I decide to make them (my imaginations) into movies, does it mean the world is coming to an end? Anything to make money for these people. That's all it is to them. Their story lines are exhausted as no one wants to keep watching the same Cinderella over and over again. Hence the tweaks to basic folklore to produce something that counts as creative to them. I can agree that many cartoons and shows these days are not fit for kids but pls my people I'm hard pressed to believe that there's a huge conspiracy going on somewhere with the aim of achieving Armageddon (or whatever this alarmist thread is talking about) Ishilove: |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Chrisdmeek(m): 4:34pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
5minsmadness:Yea That Dominion Movie, I saw it and was like, Really? A time when God disappeared? Angels being portrayed as Demons? And that triple six sign on that sculpture carrying d baby wow! I'm no too surprised tho |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Nobody: 5:03pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
KoloOyinbo:No. Lol God created it himself,indirectly though. You understand right?But thanks. Your advice seems like what I thought too. About the omitted books of the bible, I avoid this section alot but I remember I had come across it before. can you shed more light on that? Add links if you can? |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by hahn(m): 5:32pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
PastorOluT:As well as fake pastors and prophets, right? You seem not to realise that in bible times, something as mundane as driving a car would have seemed as fulfilling the prophecy. It is only natural for knowledge to increase over time and people become less ignorant. In 100years from now, the iphone6 will be so outdated that people will be too ashamed to mention it as state of the art. The "prophesy" as you put is just to keep you in check. The same "prophets" have skinnier skeletons in their cupboards. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Neplusultra(f): 6:01pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
God bless u Op! Even d dollar dat increased lately is a sign too, it takes spiritual discernment to know dese tins, d oda day Amber Ross was trying to break d internet wit unclothedness, lewdness and uncleanness! Of course I expected people to refute ur post strongly, dey are only fulfilling deir destiny. I said it b4 dat humans and morality has fallen soo low! Animals are even more obedient to their creator dan humans, I wont miss dis rapture in Jesus name. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by KoloOyinbo(m): 6:15pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Joavid:WOW! A MASSIVE subject. You could research this for YEARS. (And it is fascinating!) So I will mention a few points only not to necessarily agree or even disagree with them but as very interesting points. The Bible is a COLLECTION of books. The chosen books are called the CANON of SCRIPTURE - CANON meaning Standard or Norm. The original manuscripts were written in Aramaic and Hebrew and (primarily for the New Testament) Greek. These have been translated into the contemporary language of many different times and locations to reflect the fact that we speak different languages AND the fact that language and words change meanings over the years. Eg The King James Version was almost certainly the best translation for the English speaking world in the 1600's. It is now much more difficult to read without misunderstanding and there are much more relevant and recent translations available. (PERSONALLY I prefer the NIV although the ASV and ESV have much to recommend them). There was MUCH more controversy over the New Testament than over the Old Testament for reasons that would complicate matters even further! There was more controversy over what was included than over what was excluded. 2 Peter, Jude, John 1,2,3, Hebrews and Revelation caused considerable soul searching. Over 2000 manuscripts were considered for the New Testament - obviously most of these failed the various criteria for acceptance! (Many [most?] of these were easily dismissed and heretical from second century Gnostics) Marcion introduced a Canon in the first century with ONLY 11 books! (This guy omitted the entire Old Testament with the argument that the Old Testament God was nasty and angry!!!) Other Canons were proposed by Athanastius, Origen and Irenaeus. Mostly these differed by what they excluded, Irenaeus took exception to Hebrews, James, John 2 & 3 (but NOT 1) and Jude. Today there are two primary Canon The Catholic from the Council of Trent (1545-1563) The 'Protestant' (for want of a better term) from the Council of Carthage (397) These differ mainly by the Catholic acceptance of the Apocrypha books from the intertestamental period. Most 'Protestant' groups regard the Apocrypha as NOT divinely inspired BUT enlightened i.e. Useful reading and generally correct but not inspired by God. As an interesting sub point Martin Luther originally did not accept the Book of James but later changed his mind! To decide if a book was divinely inspired and should therefore be accepted the following criteria were applied: 1) Was the author an apostle or have a close connection with an apostle? 2) Is the book being accepted by the body of Christ at large? 3) Did the book contain consistency of doctrine and orthodox teaching? 4) Did the book bear evidence of high moral and spiritual values that would reflect a work of the Holy Spirit? From a purely Personal point of view number two is the one I find most difficulty with but that's just me! Anyways that is my contribution but if you come up with any more interesting facts/data etc I would love to hear! Let me know directly ot add to this thread or even perhaps open a thread (I am sure such a vast and interesting topic deserves a thread all of its own)! |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by iamord(m): 6:37pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
cococandy:a art chic not following the crowd mentality |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Nobody: 8:14pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
brocab:please stop misleading people about tithe because every believer including the pastor mist pay it. tithe is meant to maintain the church. that some preachers are abusing the privileges doesn't mean we as believers should ignore it. Every other things hightled are 100% correct |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by fpeter(f): 9:25pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Nothing is sacred anymore, today I watched a few minutes of the popular cartoon The Simpsons and to my utter shock,a character was beheaded violently, then another scene showed a caricature of God serving the devil coffee whilst answering sir and the devil stood with his supposedly sexy babe. Now this is blasphemy and demonic but Christian parents must understand we are in perilous times,monitor what your kids view and listen to. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by PastorOluT(m): 9:37pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
hahn:Let me tell u what u dont know, then it was not natural for them to understand enough that knowledge would increase cos they have so limited a knowledge as at the tiime of the prophecy. So u seeing it now that is natural for knowledge to increase is cos u have enough info concerning that regards. knowlede increasing is not what is known to all then so this is a valid prophecy. Also look at the 666 marks which is also coming to pass (in process and would eventually end up on the head or hand), ow could anyone had accurately prdicted it? I know for sure when it finally come to pass u will still have something to say, it is either u believe or believe not to ur own detriment. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Weah96: 9:55pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Luke 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Matthew 24 34 Verily I say unto you, [size=15pt]This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.[/size] 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Nobody: 9:58pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
a 72 year old man trying to rule this country by fire by force, even with no positive agenda, brainwashed so many innocent souls just like the antiChrist. :Dsigns of the endtime ![]() |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by babavik: 10:43pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Oh I know the end is not next week or next month but it is coming closer. I believe it has been 2days since Christ died and resurrected. We are in the morning of the third day. Things are drawing to a close. Op plz xplain diz |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by simdam500(m): 11:44pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Believe it or not.... u are one of the signs.... Who bears 5 minute madness... are u mad ![]() |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by hahn(m): 12:47am On Feb 02, 2015 |
What 666 mark? PastorOluT: |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by Ishilove: 1:56am On Feb 02, 2015 |
fpeter:The Simpsons is no longer the family friendly cartoon we grew up with in the early 90s. It is now PG rated. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by brocab: 4:59am On Feb 02, 2015*. Modified: 5:09pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Do you believe in the Rapture? The tribulation period has been around since Christ, some have been suffering more than others, end-times are standing at every door, look around you, turn on the Television, turn on your net, look up end-time prophesy's, watch movies, open your eye's, listen and watch. Matthew 24: And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars, see that you are not troubled, for all" THESE things MUST come to past. But the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation. We turn on our televisions and all we hear is rumors and wars between nation and nation. Other times we hear of WW3 about to rise-Russia verses USA, north Korea verses USA, Isis verses USA, all terrorist from the four corners of the earth verses the world. Kingdom against kingdom. Is WW3. Famines, pestilences, and earthquakes, in various places. In Africa alone thousands are dying everyday, Government leaders don't seem to care for these unfortunate countries-India, china, and other parts of the world-having no resources to even gain food to keep them alive. We hear of earthquakes more and more bouncing off each other, every week. And these are just the beginning of sorrows. Birth pangs. Then they will deliver you to tribulation and KILL you, and you will be HATED by all nations for my names sake. Christians, being set alight on fire, murdered, slaughtered, beating, torched, shot, castrated, decapitated. And many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one-another. Even our own Christian brothers/sisters, have falling sort from the gospel, many have strayed from the truth. "you will be betrayed even by parents and brothers/sisters, relatives and friends, and they will send some of you to your death, and you will be hated by all for My Names sake. And many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. Prosperity preachers-pastors other Christian organizations have raised up amongst us believers, wolves in sheep clothing, are twisting bible scriptures, robbing God in tithes and offerings. Old testament tithing was used to feed the poor in need. Tithing was never made for the purpose of any preacher or pastor becoming rich. We are to serve each other with love. Love your neighbours as yourselves, how can you love for that extra price, when you know "Jesus" had paid that price in full, once and for all. Why are you believers supporting these false prophets, they are only giving you false hopes for those who truly believe. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. V's 21, For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Christians believers are being slaughtered and murdered' by the thousands everyday, soon the whole world will hunt us all down likes wild animals, many will die, in the name of Jesus! Others Christians will save their own life's and turn from Christ. "And unless those day's are shortened, no flesh would be saved; But for the elects sake those day's will be shortened. Mark 13:20- Unless the lord has shortened those day's no flesh would be saved, but for the elects sake, WHOM HE CHOSE, He shortened the day's. That's pretty scary, whom the Lord chooses, the day's will be shortened. So who's his talking about? Many are called but few are chosen. This is what many call the rapture. Then if anyone say's to you look, here is the Christ! or there!" do not believe it. "For false Christ and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect. For many will come in my name, saying I am the Christ and will deceive many. Many false prophets have come and gone, some claiming to be Christ, others are building mega Churches and homes, even the elect are being deceived. See I have told you beforehand. "Therefore if they say to you,"Look, he is in the desert! or "Look, he is in the inner rooms! do not believe it. False prophet are rising up everyday, a good example the Pope is leading millions away from Christ. He's last words were, Jesus is not the only way into heaven. "For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also the will of the Son of Man be. So you can see, tribulation is standing on our doors. V's 29, Immediately after the tribulation of those day's the Sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven and the powers of heaven will be shaken. One meteorite or one atomic bomb, could darkened our sky's at least a year or two. Nation will rise against nation, country against country. Kingdom against Kingdom,is the coming of WW3, no-one has ever seen before. A meteorite or even Massive atomic bombs-can cause tidal waves, earthquakes-fire balls, sink-holes, massive fire clouds sweeping across the planet. Who can survive? "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in Heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds, and he will send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four corners of the earth. V's 37, But as the day's of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. "For as the day's before the flood, they were eating, drinking, marrying and given in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. The movie 2012 is a good example. These are the beginning of sorrows and Birth pangs. When the anti Christ sits as king in the new temple' the Jews are about to build, as soon as they say, peace and safety, then destruction will come upon them. The internet is called the beast. Jesus Christ is Lord. Elbisco: |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by 5minsmadness(op): 6:41am On Feb 02, 2015 |
KoloOyinbo:Beautifully written! Its been long I came across someone with such knowledge. Pls if you do open a thread I'm very much interested. |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by 5minsmadness(op): 6:44am On Feb 02, 2015 |
simdam500: ![]() |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by mytym(m): 9:00am On Feb 02, 2015 |
5minsmadness:@bolded...very true! |
| Re: Small signs to show The End Is Coming by KoloOyinbo(m): 10:16am On Feb 02, 2015 |
5minsmadness:Thanks for your comments. I would love to open a thread but am not sure I have the time. I go onto Nairaland a lot when in my own country (Ireland) to check what is happening in Naija but when actually working in Naija tend not to be online so much. But surely someone else out there would like to open such a topic ![]() ![]() ![]() Nag Hamdi, Dead Sea Scrolls, other Canons, etc etc. Fascinating Stuff!!! |
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God created it himself,indirectly though. You understand right?