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parrotibaba:
Alan smith? dude was an injury player n even when he started playing ,nistelroy was back from injury n he was relegated to d bench n eventually pushed to d midfield ,d position he still plays today ,what r u trying to get at? u still haven't proved dat Wayne Rooney mostly played on d wing in his united career ...

Mr Parrot, ok I don understand wetin you mean. I thought you meant Nisterooy in midfield. I was going to tell Coogar to put you on probation for three months until CristineC clears you for the final period.

parrotibaba:
chai!!! Elampawa!!! u can lie for Africa!!! when did I say saha relegated nistelroy to d midfield ? eh elampawa ? e be like say u r now hallucinating now baa? I hv given u proofs upon proofs but u don't want to accept d truth ...if Elampiro tells u dat it's raining u really hv to check if it's raining ,chai!! am done!! just done!!!

Mr Parrot,

But you can see already an instance of Rooney in the wing from that line up. I will provide more line ups and possibly BBC live commentary to back my argument further. From my investigation, SAF adopted 4-3-3 for 2005/6 season. Nistelrooy or Saha was the middle forward while Ronaldo and Rooney flanked.

Further investigation revealed that SAF persisted with 4-3-3 in big games between 2006 and 2009, with Rooney used in the flank.

elampiro:
Mr Parrot,

But you can see already an instance of Rooney in the wing from that line up. I will provide more line ups and possibly BBC live commentary to back my argument further. From my investigation, SAF adopted 4-3-3 for 2005/6 season. Nistelrooy or Saha was the middle forward while Ronaldo and Rooney flanked.

Further investigation revealed that SAF persisted with 4-3-3 in big games between 2006 and 2009, with Rooney used in the flank.

elampiro, there are many variants of 4-3-3. just because rooney is on the outside of a 3-man attack doesn't make him a winger. you can have 2AMs behind a striker. i don't think i have ever seen rooney run the ball down the touchline and deliver a cross.

elampiro:
Mr Parrot, ok I don understand wetin you mean. I thought you meant Nisterooy in midfield. I was going to tell Coogar to put you on probation for three months until CristineC clears you for the final period.

chai!!! I was talking about Alan smith which u mentioned n I told u about his united career as if unfolded ,where did i mention nistelroy in midfield eh ?

elampiro:
Mr Parrot,

But you can see already an instance of Rooney in the wing from that line up. I will provide more line ups and possibly BBC live commentary to back my argument further. From my investigation, SAF adopted 4-3-3 for 2005/6 season. Nistelrooy or Saha was the middle forward while Ronaldo and Rooney flanked.

Further investigation revealed that SAF persisted with 4-3-3 in big games between 2006 and 2009, with Rooney used in the flank.

Elampawa u r unbelievable!! abeg u need a lobotomy right now ... I can't believe u r trying to turn dis upside down to ur favor ...u still hv nt proven dat Rooney predominantly played on d wings in his united career ,stop twisting dis argument for fцck's sake

Man united v Cambridge united


Time;8:45pm

Venue; Old Trafford

FA cup



we r winning dis! hope to see Herrera start today

elampiro:
Mr Parrot,

But you can see already an instance of Rooney in the wing from that line up. I will provide more line ups and possibly BBC live commentary to back my argument further. From my investigation, SAF adopted 4-3-3 for 2005/6 season. Nistelrooy or Saha was the middle forward while Ronaldo and Rooney flanked.

Further investigation revealed that SAF persisted with 4-3-3 in big games between 2006 and 2009, with Rooney used in the flank.

So elampawa dey claim say rooney na once a winger? UWKU>>>>>>!

coogar:
elampiro, there are many variants of 4-3-3. just because rooney is on the outside of a 3-man attack doesn't make him a winger. you can have 2AMs behind a striker. i don't think i have ever seen rooney run the ball down the touchline and deliver a cross.

I get you but it's still 4-3-3. But even Gareth Bale doesn't run the ball down the line to deliver a cross. Iniester doesn't run down and whip a cross in.

Our match against Inter Milan at OT, Rooney and Giggs swap positions at half time (I saw the whole match again recently), Rooney gave an intelligent connecting cross for CR7 to score the 2nd goal. It must not be a Valencia's speeding and whipping style.

parrotibaba:
Elampawa u r unbelievable!! abeg u need a lobotomy right now ... I can't believe u r trying to turn dis upside down to ur favor ...u still hv nt proven dat Rooney predominantly played on d wings in his united career ,stop twisting dis argument for fцck's sake

* I am not twisting it. Evidence are pointing to the fact Rooney played mostly in the wing in his early days, particularly in 2005/6 season. Then he often played there afterwards particularly in big games.

* Facts nullified your argument that he only played there as a wing back or when there's a need to nullify opposition.

who is dis Bolton's "prodigy" dat we acquired on deadline day? Andy kellet is it? wetin dat guy go contribute to our defense? And to top it all ,he is a left back Maybe LVG will deploy him in central defense when called upon ,nawa ooh







In other news ,Owen Hargreaves is against us getting Hummels in d summer ...says he's slow n not a leader

Everton 0-2 Man Utd

United also persisted with their favoured 4-3-3 formation, the lively Van Nistelrooy supported by Rooney and debutant Park Ji Sung.


United were dominant, with Rooney ignoring the boos to torment former team-mate Phil Neville, and they nearly went ahead again when Van Nistelrooy lashed wide from 20 yards after a slick move.

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Neville, Ferdinand, Silvestre, O'Shea, Fletcher (Heinze 72), Keane, Scholes (Smith 81), Park (Richardson 85), Rooney, van Nistelrooy.
Subs Not Used: Howard, Rossi.

Booked: Scholes.
Goals: van Nistelrooy 43, Rooney 46.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4126970.stm






Mr Parrot, you see that Rooney was in the wing?

^^
But you claimed we played 4-4-2 in 2004/5 to 2005/6.


Ferguson Explains 4-3-3 Formation


By David Hobbs
September 5 2005


Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has explained his recently deployed 4-3-3 formation, claiming he had to change the controversial 4-5-1 from last season that had many flaws.


Ferguson, who's used a 4-4-2 formation for most of his Old Trafford life, insisted he had to tinker with his formation and tactics to keep up with opposition.

He explained: "The trouble with 4-5-1 is that it doesn't give you enough points of attack and if Rooney and Ronaldo come deep to defend or cover, your lone striker can get isolated.

"We used to play 4-4-2, with one player just behind the striker, because it gives you more options, more threats, but 4-3-3 makes the best use of the players we have.

"It keeps Ronaldo and Rooney forward, where they do most damage, and gives us more points on the pitch from which to attack."

The Scotsman also claims Manchester United can never play defensive football, regardless of the opposition. "Manchester United just can't play defensively. The fans would not stand for it. It's just not United," he concluded.
http://m.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s237/st80859.htm

...........

Ferguson to stand by Queiroz as unrest grows at negative United

Nistelrooy isolated upfront.
Portuguese instrumental in 4-3-3 formation
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2005/sep/21/newsstory.sport4

Veron4

29-08-2005 11:41 PM

do u all notice that sometimes when attacking man utd use 4-3-3 and while defending they use 4-5-1?




Ronaldo_7

29-08-2005 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by genesis113:
I don't agree wf the diving accuse. Given did trap Ruud. You can watch the replay tonite. You will see after the clash, Given looked painful on his chest. I think both of Ruud and Ronaldo were unlucky because of this inexperience ref.

haha.. i gt no scv hmm... i feel its 50-50 bah.. but i saw the boot of rvn very close to given's chin man! i was like.. if he kicked his chin hw sia.. hai the ref side nufc mostly bah




ahgohgoh

30-08-2005 12:14 AM

if rvn never fall given now in hospital already lol

ya agree 4-3-3 is actually 4-5-1 during defending. 3R as front men when attacking, ronaldo slot to left/right rooney slot to left/right during defending...

but 4-3-3 is quite easy for opponent to counter from wing because you don't expect rooney and ronaldo to be always fast enough to track back. so that means fletcher and scholes will help out with flank during defensive, to give more time for extra frontmen to track back. that's why you don't see scholes attacking much because he old liao mah... if he attack hard to track back in time. you see fletcher box to box more instead, young mah. i think we have to let fewer crosses in because our defenders heading a bit CMI. luckily VDS is very good in the air!




padixiong

30-08-2005 12:19 AM

i think the formation is like this ..

---------------------------------
when defending ..

Oshea-rio-silves-henize

ronaldo-fletcher-keane-scholes-rooney

ruud
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when attacking ..

Oshea-rio-silves-henize

fletcher-keane

scholes

ronaldo-ruud-rooney(free role)

------------------------------------
i think this kind of fomation give a very stable midfield when attacking and defending ..

unlike the old 4-4-2


Ronaldo_7

30-08-2005 12:21 AM

haha... Rooney is everywhere when we played against NUFC.. lots of energy!




croc1977

30-08-2005 12:23 AM

i just want to replace mikel.he is a defensive mistake timebomb waiting to happen..he was lucky yesterday .if in europe or top teams even vds cannot save us.




usjag_18

30-08-2005 12:23 AM

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/english-premier-league-179/manchester-united-forum-59384-1843-print.html

A further review of line ups and matches through out 2005/6 reveals so much. I have reviewed many matches last night up to FA cup against Arsenal where Rooney was named MOTM despite United lost on penalties.

elampiro:
I get you but it's still 4-3-3. But even Gareth Bale doesn't run the ball down the line to deliver a cross. Iniester doesn't run down and whip a cross in.

Our match against Inter Milan at OT, Rooney and Giggs swap positions at half time (I saw the whole match again recently), Rooney gave an intelligent connecting cross for CR7 to score the 2nd goal. It must not be a Valencia's speeding and whipping style.

4-3-3 can be broken down into 5 parts.

4-3-1-2
4-3-2-1(christmas formation)
4-3-3(wide)
4-3-3(narrow)
4-3-3(regular)

Neil Lennon; "Andy kellet thought he was going to Plymouth but he was shocked when I told him he was going to man united" ...



A dream come true n with d way LVG is attracted to youths ,he might get a shot at d first team

coogar:
4-3-3 can be broken down into 5 parts.

4-3-1-2
4-3-2-1(christmas formation)
4-3-3(wide)
4-3-3(narrow)
4-3-3(regular)

* But SAF mentioned a lone striker, which nullified your first option above.
* BBC said 4-3-3. In their definition, they meant 4-3-3 wide or regular.



*What BBC meant when they said a team played 4-3-3
.........
BBC
This formation is quite an attacking one.

The 4-3-3 system - that is four defenders, three midfielders and three attackers - allows you to have three attackers while still having a strong midfield.

The three midfielders will normally play quite closely together to give protection to the defence and so they cannot be passed around by the opposition.

The three strikers will split across the pitch to provide width to the attack.

Usually you would have a central attacker with one each side of him.

Barcelona play with this system with Samuel Eto'o, Ronaldinho and Ludovic Giuly.



The 4-3-3 does not actually differ that much from the 4-5-1 formation ​

Very few teams actually start with this line-up as you need to have specialist attackers.

But if a manager needs a goal late on in a game then he may opt to move to three up front.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4197558.stm

Who dafuq is Andy Kellet?

JayKayMaybachz:
Who dafuq is Andy Kellet?

My sister's brother

They say he is Gareth Bale's cousin, so he might just be a means to an end?
Saidy Janko went the other way too, both are loan deals for the Under-21s

United XI: De Gea, McNair,
Smalling, Evans, Rojo, Blind,
Fellaini, Mata, Rooney, Di Maria,
van Perse.

United subs: Valdes, Jones,
Valencia, Herrera, Young,
Falcao, Wilson

Good to see Young

Odunharry:
United XI: De Gea, McNair,
Smalling, Evans, Rojo, Blind,
Fellaini, Mata, Rooney, Di Maria,
van Perse.

United subs: Valdes, Jones,
Valencia, Herrera, Young,
Falcao, Wilson

Good to see Young

I think this is 4-4-2 diamond or 4-2-3-1, depend on where Rooney fixes himself.

what happened to Rafael sef, the guy is fit na Herrera still on the bench: omashe oo

SailorXY:
I think this is 4-4-2 diamond or 4-2-3-1, depend on where Rooney fixes himself.

what happened to Rafael sef, the guy is fit na Herrera still on the bench: omashe oo

the thing tire me o...why him come buy Herrera if him no go use am often?

Young is back?


















Halleliuya!

elampiro:
Young is back?


















Halleliuya!

L0L. Our LB z back

Let's hope Mata performs today. He's an on/off player

diggz:
So elampawa dey claim say rooney na once a winger? UWKU>>>>>>!

Ukwu!!!

Leyqute:
L0L. Our LB z back

Let's hope Mata performs today. He's an on/off player

im must perform o...

Leyqute:
L0L. Our LB z back

Let's hope Mata performs today. He's an on/off player

our LWB not LB

royale442:
our LWB not LB

we no dey use lwb again jor he should perform as a midfielder or he's sold

SailorXY:
we no dey use lwb again jor he should perform as a midfielder or he's sold

So wetin?

royale442:
our LWB not LB

He's a revelation at LB and kinda ineffective at LWB.


Match delayed. Y?

LvG likes playing players out of position too much! Don't think Rojo n McNair'll offer anything going forward.

If the first half z boring I won't bother to watch the 2nd half