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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 9:52pm On Feb 04, 2015
Seriously? What the hell is wrong with this Borussia Dortmund's squad? Even with Hummels,our highly-rated and prioritised defensive target,they are still shìt.


Abi them cast spell on them?undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 10:05pm On Feb 04, 2015
Hmmm! Liverpool trailing by 1 nil
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Danhumprey:
@bolded, Really? Mourinho's 'park the bus' style of play allows players to express themselves freely? Elampiro,are you for real?undecided

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Moourinho plays on the counter just as SAF did between 2006 and 2009

Danhumprey:
On the Rooney's issue,the truth is,we don't really know where Rooney can play best. Even SAF admit he didn't know Rooney's best position. And more importantly,the formation employed by the manager matters alot.
* That's not true. Rooney is versatile. So he gets sacrificed for other players who can only play one wing. Another reason is that his energy would go to waste if restricted to a position. He was needed under SAF to drop and add something to the midfield.

* I give you an example: Oshoala can play everywhere on the field in female football. She's better than her team strikers, but because of her energy and versatility, she is pushed deeper to help in build up and defensive play while a lesser striker takes the number 9 or even the number 10 too taken by another player. Another example is Scholes was was sacrificed for Genrald and Lampard in the Eglish team. Scholes was moved to the wing to accommodate the other two.

* SAF admitted that Rooney best position is the number 9 and number 10. Rooney scored 26 goals in 2009/2010 and the next season he was dropped into midfield. Why?

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Ferguson:
“I have to take a bit of responsibility for it,” Fergie said. “He’s sacrificed himself and never complained about it, which says a lot for the lad. He will score goals. He scored a couple against Aston Villa last season after not scoring for seven games and I thought that would have catapulted him into a good run, but we kept using him in different positions. We need to define his role better. I think his best position is through the middle, either a front role or tucking in just behind. He can play either role very well. He is aggressive, has two feet, good pace, he has the courage to get in the box. It’s great credit to the lad that he never complains. Some players know what their best position is and they don’t want to challenge themselves in any other one, but Wayne would play centre half [if he was asked to].”
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:12pm On Feb 04, 2015
I have never seen any player who has been better than Rooney in the number 10 position in Man United. We were told Kagawa was better, but he is gone again already. Rooney has been one of the best number 10 in the whole world. There he has scored many goals. Take it or leave it. He won Europe highest assists playing the number 10 under Moyes.

He became the world 5th best player as a striker. I guess he is the only EPL player who has achieved that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:39pm On Feb 04, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 10:58pm On Feb 04, 2015
I wanted to provide the comprehensive interview where SAF spoke about Rooney's position. It was very detailed. But spambot banned me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 11:20pm On Feb 04, 2015
1. SAF also admitted that in 2007/2008, Rooney sacrificed himself so much for the team. "He was played wide and in other positions" SAF said.

2. SAF went on to also say in the UCL final in Moscow, Rooney was playing well but when Chelsea took over control, Man United went completely to three midfielders in the second half to stem Chelsea's threat, and that nullified Rooney's threat. SAF said that was hard for the lad.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:22pm On Feb 04, 2015
Danhumprey:
smiley
one drunk somewhere go just generate something as slangs & the general populace go just accept turn am to twitter hashtag. na wa o eg doro, sample ekwe, etc
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:37pm On Feb 04, 2015
meanwhile, elampiro don tie matter like gεlε this night cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2:
Zonal marking tactics told us that Rooney dropped into the midfield and occupied Essien when United were without the ball. There was a Carrick vs Lampard contest throughout the match while Giigs kept an eye on Ramires.

In the second half as Chelsea looked for equalizer, ZM has it that Rooney had more freedom to operate from counter attack and it was proving risky for Chelsea. Late in the game, Mikel came on and Essien went to the right back, Rooney moved to the left to occupy Essien while JS Park was moved to the middle.

Why I am bringing this. If it were now, people would write on this thread during the match that Rooney was dropping too deep and didnt understand the number 10 role. Whereas that was the coaches's tactics. And only Rooney could do such a job. And he got two balls inot the net on the night, only that one stood. The second was in after the ref whistle had gone.

Another thing I saw in that ZM analysis was that Valencia dropped to the number 2 position to replace Rafael who got injured as Nani came on. ZM said Valencia did a very good job there. E don tey Valencia.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:32am On Feb 05, 2015
grin chaii
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 1:32am On Feb 05, 2015
mean...!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 5:27am On Feb 05, 2015
Elampiro,e don do! Hian!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 6:34am On Feb 05, 2015
Chai!!

Na who bring Rooney matter for here?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 7:06am On Feb 05, 2015
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy Elampiro, oya no vex! Meanwhile, Rooney is better off in the mid-field.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by igbsam(m): 8:19am On Feb 05, 2015
I want to category say this so that elampiro go rest this rooney matter.

infact Rooney is the best player in the world. better than all dis useless ballon d'or winners, better than all the midfield players in d history of football. All Hail Rooney the Omega-Proffessional footballer ever in the history of the game called football.

Oya, Elampiro, e don do.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SetrakusRa(m): 8:21am On Feb 05, 2015
David Moyes said he prohibited the consumption of chips at Manchester United because he felt some of the players were overweight.

Moyes came in for criticism following his sacking last April, with former United centre-back Rio Ferdinand critical of the Scot's decision to clear chips off the menu.

Eating low-fat chips had been a ritual under Alex Ferguson prior to Moyes' arrival in Manchester.

Moyes - now in charge of La Liga outfit of Real Sociedad - has opened up about the decision to scrap chips in an interview with Four Four Two magazine, claiming some of his players were fat.

"Yes, I did ban chips," said Moyes, who only lasted 10 months of his six-year contract at United.

"It was because a couple of players were overweight and I didn't think chips were good for their diet."

Moyes also admitted that he was disappointed with the reception he received when United travelled to Goodison Park in 2013-14.

After 11 years as manager at Everton, Moyes returned to a chorus of boos on Merseyside as United crashed to a 2-0 defeat against his former club.

Moyes, who was sacked just days after that loss, said: "I wasn't surprised, because I know how supporters react and I had left their club. But I was disappointed.

"I got Everton competing at the top end of the league with a mid-table budget. I gave everything I could in trying to make Everton the best I could. It was a long process but we did it - my staff, my players and others at the club.

"We had some glorious nights at Goodison and the fans were superb. I've got huge affection for Everton, it was my life for over a decade."
Rooney and Anderson grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 8:33am On Feb 05, 2015
elampiro:
Central midfield will kill his career quicker. If we are to accommodate RVP, Falcao in striking positions, We can use Rooney and Mata in the number 10 and wings. Rooney will be better playing from the left side than the right he played last night. Playing from the left will enable him to cut into the edge of the box to shoot his his right foot. It will also gradually bring back the best in him.
It is funny you are only just realizing this now... I kept trying to point this out during the Moyes' tenure; that we should take advantage of Rooney's "versatility" so that we would be able to use Kagawa/Mata more as #10 - but of course, as usual, you saw it as "Rooney-hating"!

Well... na our elders talk am say, "wetin old man siddon ontop stool see... ... ..."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:53am On Feb 05, 2015
Kai!!! This Dortmund team na big wash!!! sad with all d players dat de hv ,de r still losing



...Some gods somewhere in Germany r not smiling
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tval(m): 9:44am On Feb 05, 2015
RuuDie:
It is funny you are only just realizing this now... I kept trying to point this out during the Moyes' tenure; that we should take advantage of Rooney's "versatility" so that we would be able to use Kagawa/Mata more as #10 - but of course, as usual, you saw it as "Rooney-hating"!

Well... na our elders talk am say, "wetin old man siddon ontop stool see... ... ..."
stool as in poo? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:05am On Feb 05, 2015
RuuDie:
It is funny you are only just realizing this now... I kept trying to point this out during the Moyes' tenure; that we should take advantage of Rooney's "versatility" so that we would be able to use Kagawa/Mata more as #10 - but of course, as usual, you saw it as "Rooney-hating"!

Well... na our elders talk am say, "wetin old man siddon ontop stool see... ... ..."
rooney is not better than nani or januzaj from the flanks. i would even choose di maria or mata ahead of rooney in that role as well.

rooney is a jack of all trade - master of none. as a top striker, no golden boot in 12 seasons. as a number-10, he's never topped assists in the league for 12 seasons.

that says it all!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:14am On Feb 05, 2015
...waiting for Elampiro to flood dis thread with a plethora of stats in reply to coogar




Elampiro FC vs Coogar united


Venue: Man united thread

Kickoff: Now!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:16am On Feb 05, 2015
wtf? grin


Am I seeing two Elampiros viewing dis thread? grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 10:20am On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
rooney is not better than nani or januzaj from the flanks. i would even choose di maria or mata ahead of rooney in that role as well.

rooney is a jack of all trade - master of none. as a top striker, no golden boot in 12 seasons. as a number-10, he's never topped assists in the league for 12 seasons.

that says it all!
How did he manage to get into first 11 all these years if he weren't a master of none? Masters of none are usually reduced to squad roles.

How did he win the EPL player of the year and world 5th best player?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:26am On Feb 05, 2015
elampiro2:
How did he manage to get into first 11 all these years if he weren't a master of none? Masters of none are usually reduced to squad roles.

How did he win the EPL player of the year and world 5th best player?
because he's english & he's england's best player. not playing him will not help england and the endorsements.

however, when you consider the matters on the pitch, rooney is nowhere the best striker in the premier league or the best number-10 in the premier league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:43am On Feb 05, 2015
premier league assists

07/08 assists
19 - fabregas
17 - ashley young
13 - rooney
11 - berbatov
11 - gerrard

08/09 assists
11 - van persie
10 - berbatov
10 - fabregas
10 - gerrard
10 - lampard

09/10 assists
17 - lampard
15 - fabregas
13 - drogba
12 - milner
10 - ashley young, nani, anelka, lennon

10/11 assists
18 - nani
15 - drogba
14 - fabregas
11 - rooney, ashley young, arshavin, baines
09 - david silva

11/12 assists
17 - david silva
14 - valencia
13 - mata
12 - adebayor
11 - bale, alex song

12/13 assists
13 - mata, hazard
12 - cazorla
11 - rooney, walcott
10 - van persie, podolski
09 - david silva, gerrard

13/14 assists
14 - gerrard
13 - suarez
10 - rooney, silva, lambert
09 - ozil, toure
08 - nasri.
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from the stats above, how can rooney lay claims as the best playmaker in the PL when he has been bested by all & sundry season by season. even out & out strikers like RVP topped assist charts & drogba/suarez/berbatov have all notched the second spot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 10:53am On Feb 05, 2015
Happy birthday Janujaj
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2:
RuuDie:
It is funny you are only just realizing this now... I kept trying to point this out during the Moyes' tenure; that we should take advantage of Rooney's "versatility" so that we would be able to use Kagawa/Mata more as #10 - but of course, as usual, you saw it as "Rooney-hating"!

Well... na our elders talk am say, "wetin old man siddon ontop stool see... ... ..."
* I don't think you guys meant he needed to sacrifice for the benefit of the team. It was more like you guys saying Rooney is not even a number 10. Then I kept asking where he had played all these years that he has been so rated highly and won titles?

* Also,the difference now is that we have Di Maria and Falcao who are at their peak. Someone really need to sacrifice for them.

Generally, I noticed a criminally high level of ingratitude to a man who had served this club so well with dedication. This was what I noticed when I came here. I never was 50% a Rooney fan as this thread had propelled or instigated me to (as I his fan today). I liked him same way I like a number of players, but I knew Rooney was a special member of the team who gave opposition headache. That important member of the team who SAF rested in small matches ahead of big and important games. But I didn't think I was much his fan more than I was to Vidic and a few more players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 11:09am On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
because he's english & he's england's best player. not playing him will not help england and the endorsements.

however, when you consider the matters on the pitch, rooney is nowhere the best striker in the premier league or the best number-10 in the premier league.
Januzaj = Belgium
Zaha = English
* and you even claimed Zaha was better.

Neville = English
Rafael =Brazil
* Rafael benched Neville even when Neville was not. done yet.

How many more English players/Strikers have been rejected by clubs at expense of foreign players. Sturridge Lalana, Lambert were all benched by top clubs at expense of foreign players.



* Did Mouriho, PSG, Madrid and Barca also were interested in him because he is English? Ukwu!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2:
coogar:
premier league assists

07/08 assists
19 - fabregas
17 - ashley young
13 - rooney
11 - berbatov
11 - gerrard

08/09 assists
11 - van persie
10 - berbatov
10 - fabregas
10 - gerrard
10 - lampard

09/10 assists
17 - lampard
15 - fabregas
13 - drogba
12 - milner
10 - ashley young, nani, anelka, lennon

10/11 assists
18 - nani
15 - drogba
14 - fabregas
11 - rooney, ashley young, arshavin, baines
09 - david silva

11/12 assists
17 - david silva
14 - valencia
13 - mata
12 - adebayor
11 - bale, alex song

12/13 assists
13 - mata, hazard
12 - cazorla
11 - rooney, walcott
10 - van persie, podolski
09 - david silva, gerrard

13/14 assists
14 - gerrard
13 - suarez
10 - rooney, silva, lambert
09 - ozil, toure
08 - nasri.
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from the stats above, how can rooney lay claims as the best playmaker in the PL when he has been bested by all & sundry season by season. even out & out strikers like RVP topped assist charts & drogba/suarez/berbatov have all notched the second spot.
Put goals beside the assists and we sum the ground total.
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