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Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 9:37am On Feb 11, 2015
You are running in circles; am human because am human therefore it is only reasonable to conclude that am nothing but human, as in like seriously, what else can I be but human? grin

Why do you care about humans? Do you have any objective reason for caring?

johnydon22:
Then it boils down to my first answer to you cus I am human

my dear bro why are you still going in circles? grin
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 9:41am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
You are running in circles; am human because am human therefore it is only reasonable to conclude that am nothing but human, as in like seriously, what else can I be but human? grin

Why do you care about humans? Do you have any objective reason for caring?
@bolded does that utterances even make sense to you or is it necesaary?

lol i am sure you are out of question... is it not the question i just answered.

Please go up and read all my replies again dear one!
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by davien(m): 9:42am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
Oh dear!
Isn't it too early for ad hominem?
Why not address me before pulling a straw-man?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 9:42am On Feb 11, 2015
I forgive you for shallowness. davien kindly take him off the ring cool
johnydon22:
lol i am sure you are out of question... is it not the question i just answered.

Please go up and read all my replies again dear one!
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by davien(m): 9:44am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
I forgive you for shallowness. davien kindly take him off the ring cool
vooks what do you think of north korea's leader?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 9:45am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
I forgive you for shallowness. davien kindly take him off the ring cool
Are you out of questions?

Then i invite the religious people around to come and read our discussions so far to see who really is the shallow person... shall we now wait for them to tell who the shallow one is dear one?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 9:45am On Feb 11, 2015
That kid is bad news. He executed his own uncle

davien:
vooks what do you think of north korea's leader?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 9:47am On Feb 11, 2015
Human life is valuable because of EMPATHY. Thus saith johnydon22
Why EMPATHIZE? Is empathy optional?

johnydon22:
Are you out of questions?

Then i invite the religious people around to come and read our discussions so far to see who really is the shallow person... shall we now wait for them to tell who the shallow one is dear one?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by davien(m): 9:51am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
That kid is bad news. He executed his own uncle
Is the nation an authoritarian one?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 9:53am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
Human life is valuable because of EMPATHY.
Why EMPATHIZE? Is empathy optional?
........................................... Another dumb question....................................
my above posts shall answer that, i do not wish to start typing everything i have typed before, its not necessary.

If you cannot make sense from all i have written above then its a pity sad..

Let us wait for people who are reading our discussion in this thread tell us who among us is the shallow one.. shall we grin
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 9:54am On Feb 11, 2015
So I hear

davien:
Is the nation an authoritarian one?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 9:54am On Feb 11, 2015
davien, he is bleeding badly cool

johnydon22:
........................................... Another dumb question....................................
my above posts shall answer that, i do not wish to start typing everything i have typed before, its not necessary.

If you cannot make sense from all i have written above then its a pity sad..

Let us wait for people who are reading our discussion in this thread tell us who among us is the shallow one.. shall we grin
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 9:59am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
davien, he is bleeding badly cool
Lmao...me? grin...

I just wonder why you are calling devian here...
You no longer have anything to say...so lets wait for them.

Oga this is not a personal issue, we just had a civilized discussion so act like it my bro.
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 10:01am On Feb 11, 2015
Do good and evil exist?
johnydon22:
Lmao...me? grin...

I just wonder why you are calling devian here...
You no longer have anything to say...so lets wait for them.

Oga this is not a personal issue, we just had a civilized discussion so act like it my bro.
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by davien(m): 10:02am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
So I hear
Isn't your belief also an authoritarian one?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 10:04am On Feb 11, 2015
What belief?

Sideshows apart, do good and evil exist?

davien:
Isn't your belief also an authoritarian one?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 10:06am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
Do good and evil exist?
Okay you are becoming real desperate, now you are jumping into a different discussion derailing your own thread... grin

are good and evil entity's?

cheesy
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 10:08am On Feb 11, 2015
davien:
Isn't your belief also an authoritarian one?
He is asking you what belief is grin
Then turns around and borrows another question if good and evil exist...

Is good an entity or evil an entityhuh

The guy just lost it... desperation is on point now
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 10:17am On Feb 11, 2015
I believe in so many things.
I believe mosquito nets gives me nightmares so I avoid them, never used one in close to a decade

johnydon22:
He is asking you what belief is grin
Then turns around and borrows another question if good and evil exist...

Is good an entity or evil an entityhuh

The guy just lost it... desperation is on point now
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by davien(m): 10:18am On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
What belief?

Sideshows apart, do good and evil exist?
Don't dodge the question...answer it..
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by vooks(op): 11:29am On Feb 11, 2015
Then please drop ambiguity
davien:
Don't dodge the question...answer it..
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by Image123(m): 12:17pm On Feb 11, 2015
johnydon22:
i said ; Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right.

This two options above are all religious people too...lmao...funny
What is right?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 12:32pm On Feb 11, 2015
Image123:
What is right?
let me quote my previous post to you since you intentionally skipped it.

Empathy is doing the things you do with consideration to the feelings of others so ask me again why it matters... next time search a word you dont know in the dictionary before asking such dumb question (i.e : Am not calling you dumb)

The society derives morality from empathy.

Right and wrong is encompassed in the dimension of empathy. . . as long as as anything you do hurts no one in anyway. e.g You kissing a girl do not hurt anybody in short in is pleasurable to both of you, so how can it be wrong?


You see anything that goes against empathy is wrong and anything that is in coincide with empathy can be termed right.

If i stole from you or insulted you, my actions are against empathy (cus it hurt you) that means i was wrong by stealing or insulting you..

If i shelter you when you are homeless, my actions are in coincide with empathy (its good for you) that action can be classified as right...

Nobody is evil and nobody is good.. we are all born neutral to a beautiful world.. and are all capable of great good and great evil. it is the decisions we make when faced with the choice of good and evil that determines what our actions are or will be
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by davien(m): 12:56pm On Feb 11, 2015
johnydon22:
let me quote my previous post to you since you intentionally skipped it.

Empathy is doing the things you do with consideration to the feelings of others so ask me again why it matters... next time search a word you dont know in the dictionary before asking such dumb question (i.e : Am not calling you dumb)

The society derives morality from empathy.

Right and wrong is encompassed in the dimension of empathy. . . as long as as anything you do hurts no one in anyway. e.g You kissing a girl do not hurt anybody in short in is pleasurable to both of you, so how can it be wrong?


You see anything that goes against empathy is wrong and anything that is in coincide with empathy can be termed right.

If i stole from you or insulted you, my actions are against empathy (cus it hurt you) that means i was wrong by stealing or insulting you..

If i shelter you when you are homeless, my actions are in coincide with empathy (its good for you) that action can be classified as right...

Nobody is evil and nobody is good.. we are all born neutral to a beautiful world.. and are all capable of great good and great evil. it is the decisions we make when faced with the choice of good and evil that determines what our actions are or will be
Johnny I believe they want you going in circles....you've said enough.
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 12:59pm On Feb 11, 2015
davien:
Johnny I believe they want you going in circles....you've said enough.
Exactly my brother... i dont even know their point or where they are coming from in the first place...
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by Image123(m): 1:12pm On Feb 11, 2015
johnydon22:
let me quote my previous post to you since you intentionally skipped it.

Empathy is doing the things you do with consideration to the feelings of others so ask me again why it matters... next time search a word you dont know in the dictionary before asking such dumb question (i.e : Am not calling you dumb)

The society derives morality from empathy.

Right and wrong is encompassed in the dimension of empathy. . . as long as as anything you do hurts no one in anyway. e.g You kissing a girl do not hurt anybody in short in is pleasurable to both of you, so how can it be wrong?


You see anything that goes against empathy is wrong and anything that is in coincide with empathy can be termed right.

If i stole from you or insulted you, my actions are against empathy (cus it hurt you) that means i was wrong by stealing or insulting you..

If i shelter you when you are homeless, my actions are in coincide with empathy (its good for you) that action can be classified as right...

Nobody is evil and nobody is good.. we are all born neutral to a beautiful world.. and are all capable of great good and great evil. it is the decisions we make when faced with the choice of good and evil that determines what our actions are or will be
Keep it short and simple i hope. i asked "what is right?" From your post, i deduce that you think RIGHT is what hurts no one with consideration for the feeling of others. Is that what you are saying?
How do you know the feeling of others? Is your reply right? I ask because you hurt my feelings.
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by Weah96: 1:15pm On Feb 11, 2015
I have yet to consider sucking out a baby's brains or anyone's brain for that matter. That is some sadistic Winnie the Pooh shyt. Now thanks to the OP, I'm keeping all my options on the table. Hahaha.

How come atheists don't rob blind people? Do atheists eat their children? What stops an atheist from killing his whole family with kerosene and matches? Don't get offended when others fail to answer your question intelligently. You appear to be conflating the behavior of atheists with theists.

I live by the golden rule myself, no Gods attached. I don't slap people because I don't like people to slap me.

However, this is different from the attitude I had during childhood when my only moral compass was the bible. Back then, the value of human life was the silence in my head. The minute I would hear a voice, even my own, I would begin to imagine that I was Abraham and that Jesus wanted me to decapitate someone as a test of my loyalty and faith. Luckily for me, no one got injured from my holy ghost inspired psychosis but I came close.

Btw, Abraham would have been thrown in jail and charged with attempted murder and child abuse; Isaac would have been placed in the custody of social services.
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 1:43pm On Feb 11, 2015
Image123:
Keep it short and simple i hope. i asked "what is right?" From your post, i deduce that you think RIGHT is what hurts no one with consideration for the feeling of others. Is that what you are saying?
How do you know the feeling of others? Is your reply right? I ask because you hurt my feelings.
If that post above hurt you then you have a serious issue...

If you cant comprehend anything i said above, how can you comprehend more when i say it.

If you do not and cannot discern what is right from what is wrong... smh then its a big pity..

I am pretty sure i have made my statements clear and tactful...
I will not go over this over again dear one..

I am through with you...
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by plaetton: 3:20pm On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
Am interested in YOU not phony theories. Now that you know that morality is a figment of your imagination and that of your ancestors, do you act and live like it?

PS: Am focussing on atheism not theism and you are already muddying this discussion by conflating the two. Attacking atheism is not necessarily defending theism
I still have no idea what you are talking about , or are trying to talk about.

I have given you a simple answer that morality is product of social evolution, both at the individual level, and at the level of the society, any given society.
In other words, my morality is the product of my social evolution.
My morality is shaped first by the habits and norms of my parents, my community and environment, my education, my philosophical leaning ( in your case, your religion), blended with the common laws of my society.
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by Image123(m): 5:16pm On Feb 11, 2015
johnydon22:
If that post above hurt you then you have a serious issue...

If you cant comprehend anything i said above, how can you comprehend more when i say it.

If you do not and cannot discern what is right from what is wrong... smh then its a big pity..

I am pretty sure i have made my statements clear and tactful...
I will not go over this over again dear one..

I am through with you...
You didn't directly state what is RIGHT, leaving me to deduce and infer. I asked if my deduction was correct so as not to misrepresent you but you didn't answer. You hurt my feelings when you asserted that i intentionally skipped your post.
How do you know the feeling of others? Is your reply right?
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by johnydon22(m): 9:01pm On Feb 11, 2015
Image123:
You didn't directly state what is RIGHT, leaving me to deduce and infer. I asked if my deduction was correct so as not to misrepresent you but you didn't answer. You hurt my feelings when you asserted that i intentionally skipped your post.
How do you know the feeling of others? Is your reply right?
Nothing need saying that has not being said... am not cut out for going in circles...
whatever question you have, you can easily scroll up and see the answer..
Am done sir... No more mentions cus i wont reply it.

And i am sorry if my post hurt you, it was not intended.
Re: Atheists, What Is The VALUE Of Human Life? by TheIkoro(m): 9:48pm On Feb 11, 2015
vooks:
I believe in so many things.
I believe mosquito nets gives me nightmares so I avoid them, never used one in close to a decade
I was once acquainted with someone that used the word, "churchquitoes."

I'd rather use the word, "churchietoes."

Churchieto nets will give thee absolutely no nightmares, and thou art blessed with churchieto nets when thou
cries out unto The Creator of The Ikoro with words such as the following:

Without cause, they hid their nets for me;
without cause, they dug a pit for my life:
Let ruin come upon them unawares!
and let the net which they hid ensnare them:
Let them fall therein to become absolutely nothing throughout all eternity but the nought suffering a
trillion times over with the torment of a furnace.

- Ikoro Iyineleda.
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