Boss13:

The idea is not bad. I am only interested in the cost implication. I just feel it is a policy to appear popular because it may be difficult to implement. Like Soludo said, a plan without naira or kobo is a wish-list

Zikkyy:


If the focus is on production of commercial and utility vehicles, why is the government increasing duty/levy payable on passenger vehicles?

ogb5:
The so called professor pastor wants to move gas to power plants around Nigeria with trucks, he surely thinks gas for power plants is the same thing as cooking gas, idiota.

Pastors should concentrate on fleecing the tithes and offering of their congregation instead of joining politics and trying to fleece us all with lies.

APC e-rats please educate your professor, we know Buhari is dumb, but if the vice is also blockhead then you guys are in trouble. explain to him, Gas for power plant is methane and you don't transport methane around in trucks. Cooking gas that is distributed with trucks is either liquid propane of liquid Butane and no country in the world generate public power from expensive propane and butane in the presence of massive amounts of cheap methane. And by the way we do not even have enough manufacturing capacity for propane and butane for even home cooking not to talk of using it for power generation.

free2ryhme:


how many did u buy and see in the streets? and how affordable are they??


it is not by making cars it also involves making them available at reasonable cost

atlwireles:
So you're telling investors building assembly plants to back off . Because you intend to reduce tariff, that have not gone up yet?


What is this decentralising power generation? Is power production currently centralised?

nke001:



It seems you have not ply other regions recently?

A brand new PROUDLY NIGERIA car price ranged 1.5-2.0m isnt affordable compared to it 5.0-7.0m counterpart?



Haba, even the devil go just SMH.

SergeAlain:
The venerable Prof should stick to legal matters where i hope he is well versed. if the General said this i would not be bothered.
Hearing this from the only educated member of the tag team scares me to my bones.

First. We are crying about creating employment, and we have just created a policy which has succeeded in attracting investors to build assembly plants in Nigeria, and create thousands of QUALITY jobs. Prof has just told us APC intends to reverse that process and leave the investors who believed our policies stranded mid stream. Can you imagine how difficult it will then be to attract any other investors in any sector at all? This will simply confirm to the foreign investors that our policies are not worth the paper they are written on.

Second. On the power issue. Does Prof even realize the sector has been totally deregulated and a competitive market implemented? Several IPPs are alive and well in Nigeria today, including at least 3 belonging to LASG. The National Electricity Regulatory Commission (NERC) has on its website over 100 companies licensed to do just this i.e. modular power, with over 80% already operational and supplying to industrial players (these are naturally more attractive than residential consumers who it would be a struggle to collect your monthly bills from).
All the electricity distribution companies are ACTIVELY (i cant stress this enough) looking for credible investors to do embedded power plants within their local grids. This addresses the issue of National Grid mentioned before on this thread.

In any case, non of these solutions are short term and the main bottle neck in any gas power solution right now is access to gas. There are no easy answers and APC will come to discover this when/if they win.

These people are even more uninformed than i first thought!

Nigerians please interrogate any change story before you accept it OOOH! From frying pan to fire is not a nice experience OOOH!
It is easy to clamor for change but please bear in mind that anyone you vote in now is there for at least 4 years. By the time you find out how clueless these guys are, you would have to wait for/waste another 4 years!!!


The choice is ours guys, but so are the Consequences!!!!

enigmang:



So do we agree that there has been a good "corresponding" increase in local rice and tomatoe production seeing GBM said he is going to Ban it?? or is he being "criminal"

atlwireles:


Quote me when you are ready to make a serious argument. I will pass for now.

nke001:



It seems you have not ply other regions recently?

A brand new PROUDLY NIGERIA car price ranged 1.5-2.0m isnt affordable compared to it 5.0-7.0m counterpart?



Haba, even the devil go just SMH.

ilugunboy:


Are you sure you are comprehending? Pls never quote me again if you are in a hurry to insult...I don't enjoy your type of company in this community..I know those I flow with.

Read and digest.

deemdeem:


Please which made in Nigeria car is 1.5m?

Zikkyy:


If the focus is on production of commercial and utility vehicles, why is the government increasing duty/levy payable on passenger vehicles?

Zikkyy:


Mainly tokubo vehicles except for politicians and extra large contractors. We are talking about brand new cars. that's what the local plant will be producing.



It will create lots of jobs if we are able to consume everything that's produced. The volume of imported vehicles is about 60,000 annually (if am correct). The implication is that the volume cannot sustain more than two or three manufacturers. So i don't see the lots of jobs anywhere. You don't need local assembly to increase patronage of raw materials. It's even easier and better to start with the local production of replacement parts to service vehicles in use.



Focus on refining first. Impact of imported cars on foreign reserve is not so material when compared to refined petroleum products (in tens of billions USD). Refining will create more jobs, open up more industries (petrochemical, chemical, plastic, textile e.t.c).



This is based on the assumption that we can afford the cheaper alternative, but we know local version is not cheap.

ilugunboy:


Same school of thought with Oga......we will...we will....

You crawl....you walk....and then you run. You can't cut corners....

Ephemmm:


People unscrupulously smuggle in vehicles when they cannot pay high tarrif, or how can you prefer land journey to air transportation when the price of air transportation is almost the same with air transportation?

Gbawe:


Is that not what Osinbajo is saying also? Is it wrong to then direct that punitive import duty, which mainly punishes and disenfranchise ordinary Nigerians, should not be deemed a compulsory option for assisting the development of quality local vehicle production? Your adage about running before learning to crawl actually applies to the approach of the Nigerian Government in my opinion. Creating a local car manufacturing sector should not come at the expense of destroying choice and affordability for all tiers of Nigerian pockets. That approach won't work.

talktimi:
power HAS been decentralized already for some yrs now during the tenure of this administration that's why there's no more PHCN. School me if I'm wrong


Modified* pls explain what you mean by the "national grid issue" in relation to what the amiable prof (whom Musiwa describes as an illiterate) and atlwireless.

Thank

Zikkyy:


If the focus is on production of commercial and utility vehicles, why is the government increasing duty/levy payable on passenger vehicles?

free2ryhme:




How is 1.5 and 2m affordable ??

A neat toks can go for 800k and 600K which is affordable after clearing?

How many proudly Nigerian cars have you seen and give evidence of average Nigerians who bought the said hype cars .

Odua stole to buy bullet proof vehicles and she was in Jonathan administration as Minister for Aviation.

Have u seen the cars Okonjo and the likes use. They are not made in Nigeria yet your clueless president it telling us to buy what he and his family members cant use

even demons are laughing at you in HD

deemdeem:

[b]
The auto policy is good just like the proposed full deregulation of petrol but the timing is wrong.
Some major infrastructural deficiencies needs to be sorted out first before the auto policy should be hailed.
These deficiencies primarily include but not limited to Power.
Innosun for instance highest overhead cost during production goes into power generation to his factories. He in return, place it on the final cost of his vehicles produced. I don't know of any of his vehicles that is less than 2.5 million (before fall of naira ooooo).
How many Nigerians will choose to go for an Innosun at such price when u can get a good tokunboh C Class Mercedes-Benz with lesser amount? In my opinion, 2005 benz is still superior to its 2015 Innosun counterpart.
Till date, govt still remain Innosun biggest customer. This shouldn't be. Innosun cars price needs to come down and this will only happen if cost of production is drastically reduced. That should be out govt greatest concern now and not increasing tariffs therby increasing and forcing on Nigerian throats very expensive vehicles which doesn't[/b] reflect true value for money.

ilugunboy:
It's is criminal to shot up tarrif on imported new and second hand car without a corresponding increase in local production at competitive price.

You only encourage smuggling and the resultant loss of revenue to the government by way of reduced custom duty...

You can't inconvenient Nigerians because of some cabal close to the seat of government ...promising the govt they can meet demand, which obviously is a daunting task...

BlackTechnology:



Economic illiterate


Do jobs fall from heaven


If you fail to encourage local production, how do you think jobs will spring up


You guys insult the President over unemployment and when some of his policies will encourage job creation, you guys still oppose it

asuustrike2009:

power generation is still at the center (federal) while distribution and transmission is at the hands of private. it what government generates that they transmit and distribute across the country.