[quote author=LeonessAug post=30661541]Been a while dearies. Congrats to all new mums.

Just want to share my recent experience with my Dropbox.

hahahaha d VO no believe the 2888 amount. Congrats dear, at least u don give me idea incase they call me for interview cos mine will be expiring soon.

Hello everyone.

I will be leaving first week of March for Houston and will be using Oakbend and Dr. Fagbohun. Anyone interested in sharing a two bed flat in a services apartment near oakbend should contact me.

LeonessAug:
Been a while dearies. Congrats to all new mums.

Just want to share my recent experience with my Dropbox.

Our visas (mine, daughter and hubby) is expiring this Feb so we decided to renew end of Jan due to all this election brouhaha.

We applied for Dropbox and hubby got called that we should show up any Monday or Wednesday BTW 12 & 2pm for an interview. I was shocked because I know few people that weren't called during their renew process.

We chose to go this past Monday and the interview went thus:

Hello
Hello

You had your baby when?
July 2014

Can I see the receipts?
Handed over the receipt

How much were you billed?
$2888

Is this with doctor's fee and ..?
Yes

What? Its not possible (Scratching his head and still insisting its not possible.
I handed over my zero balance and told him to call them for clarification.

Still terrified and asked where I and hubby works, what we do where we work. Countries we've visited. Why we are traveling again.

Lastly, pick up your visas on Thursday.


Whew!

A lady I met was also called and she came from Port Harcourt and had her baby in the US. I couldn't wait to know the outcome of her interview.

Pls ensure you get all your documents intact and your zero balance is highly important regardless of how much you paid.

I beg how your total bill be 2888 only and which hospital is that?

[quote author=Phema post=30669232]

If I hear! Abeg, the thing gats fine ooo. Who wants an awkward looking thang? There is a saying in my language; anya bu'uzo eri. Meaning; the eyes eat first.

Go figure. . . [/quote

Una no go kill person
Lol ah ok Na to find cosmetic surgeon be dat o

[quote author=Nita2013 post=30669947][/quote]

Pls what hospital did you use, wow under $3k pls share d details of d dr and hospital thanks

Hello everybody.
I have been following conversations in this forum for some time now. I found useful information that helped me in making a decision about going to El Paso to have my baby. However, I had the biggest blow of my life yesterday at Chicago. They put me through a tough time, and eventually stamped on my passport(visa cancelled with prejudice), and sent me home immediately. I got to Germany and missed my flight due to long cue at the security. Now am stuck there, waiting till 11:00am tomorrow before I can start going back to Naija.
My head is turning round and round. I don't know what do now. I don't even understand what that statement means. I've searched in this forum, but I've only seen, cancelled without prejudice. Please can someone tell me the difference.
My story goes like this:

I applied for a B1B2 visa to come for vacation. My husbands sec sch teacher who lives in the US and is from the same village wrote me a letter of invitation. He asked me to ask from those who have had babies in the US to tell me how they did it. So I started making searches and enquiries. That was how I found this forum. Then when I contacted Doctores Para Ti, and they replied me. I forwarded the email to him. He got offended and started to warn me very seriously not to give his passport details to anyone. He told me that they might be frauds terms. So in order to please him. I said ok I won't contact them. Besides his passport details have nothing to do with my contacting them.

During my interview, they asked me why I wanted to go to the us, I said for vacation as that was what I filled in my form. Then they asked if I was pregnant, I said yes. They asked if I plan to have my baby there, I said I wouldn't mind if I have the opportunity. Then they asked me how many weeks gone I was, I told them. They asked if I had contacted a doctor, I said no. Then they told me they have approved my visa, for collection by Wednesday, and then they gave me a document of requirements for someone going to the us for medical treatment, Nd asked me to make sure I get those documents before traveling so they won't turn me back at the Poe. Eventually they gave me a b1b2 visa for 2yrs.

I started my preparations. My uncle was very slow in giving me hospital contacts so I can find out the fees since he has announced from day 1, that I will be the one to foot the bill. Then he came up with another thing. He said that I MUST go with ARIK Nd through Lagos, because somebody will be giving me something to bring for him. I narrated my ugly experience at Lagos Intl last year when I came back from the UK regarding going to the bus stop, scrambling to get on the shuttle bus to get to the car park where the person to pick me was waiting. I told him that my concern is with returning. By then I will be carrying a baby, with a newly performed c section and my luggage so that it will be a health hazard for me. Then my husband offered that the person send the stuff to us and we pay for the cost, so that I can then travel with the stuff from Abuja. He got offended and cut off communication. We called and called, but he refused to pick.

Eventually when we got in touch with the doctor he gave us, we found out the whole thing was going to cost us about 27,000 plus. Then when I compared it to Doctores para to in El Paso, I would save money from both hospital bills and accommodation and feeding. So I chose El Paso.
I even made a deposit payment do 2800k to prove my ability to pay my bills. My balance was then 4000+, and I had 6000k cash plus my card for UK account with about 4000k and my nig bank card worth also about 4000k.

At the Poe in Chicago, they asked me why I was there, I said for vacation and to have my baby. They asked my how long I plan to stay, I told them 3months (I was 32wks, 8wks b4 delivery and 4wks after delivery). Then they took me inside and kept me waiting for more than 3 hours. Eventually, a guy came to me and took me to a room. He asked me why i was there, I told him as earlier. He asked me about hospital, I gave the letter from the hospital and the receipt for the fees I paid. He asked me how MUch I had, I told him 6k and showed him. I also showed him my Visa cards and my bank statements and the reservation I made at INTOWN suites. He kept quiet, then he took all my documents . Eventually, one lady who was very unfriendly, intimidating and bossy came into the matter. She asked questions. Never allowed me to finish, and then cuts in with her own answers twisting what I say.

THE SUMMARY OF IT all. They concluded that I used my uncle to get the visa, and now I am going to El Paso. They didn't believe my story about my uncle. She also said that I lied to the visa officer and didn't willingly tell him I was coming to give birth, that I only said that because he asked me. I told her I was being interviewed and should a answer only what I am asked. Then she said that the amount the Doctores para TI wrote in their letter is unfounded. She claimed that the average cost of giving birth by c section in the US is 40000k, so if those people are charging me under 7000k, that it is suspicious. To add to the injury, they said they have called the Doctores para TI. And they were not reaching them, so they cannot verify their authenticity. They also claimed to have called my uncle and he is not picking. By that time, I knew that I was in for trouble. I asked them to send emails, as it is faster, they agreed, but never did. At the end of the day, they kept me there for nearly 10hrs and then stamped my passport: visa cancelled with prejudice. They concluded that I was making up stories, and in fact in my desperation to prove to them that I was saying the truth, I gave them all my documents, they took my diary, my phone, and all the info they got from there, they used against me, even when I told them about someone I met last Friday, who is my friend, and whose wife had her baby at El Paso. They rather twisted it and said that I only met this person after I had paid 2800k, so what was the point in meeting him? They kind of implied that Doctores para ti is a scam!
I found it difficult to accept the cancelation and sign the voluntary withdrawal of my application for entry, because I didn't understand what I did wrong. Later another came and explained to me why it was necessary for me to sign the papers, that if I didn't sign it, I will be barred from entering the US for 5 years, but if I voluntarily withdraw my application, then I would have another chance of applying for a visa. So I agreed and signed.

Please I need to know what that statement means: visa cancelled with prejudice.

I need urgent reply PLEASE!

ochioraumu, this is really a big one. i really feel for you

let me break it down for you.

CANCEL WITHOUT PREJUDICE Means you came to USA with the wrong class of visa, it doesn't stop you from applying in future.

CANCEL WITH PREJUDICE means Based on your answers, the officer made a determination that you intended to stay permanently (immigrant intent) when you were entering on a temporary , non-immigrant visa. The fact that the decision was made with prejudice means that a non-immigrant visa will most likely not be made available to you again unless you are able to demonstrate that the earlier determination was made in error because the officer concluded you had fraudulent intent to enter permanently.they think you basically lied to get your visa. This is very serious, and called misrepresentation. It doesn't matter whether someone else told you to lie, you had the choice. If you apply again, and the consulate finds that the misrepresentation was material, you have a lifetime ban from re entry.

I wont want you to feel to bad about this whole issue. You obviously didnt plan this whole trip well and you gave too much information at the POE. My sister, WITH PREJUDICE It means that you will never be able to get another non-immigrant visa (visitor's visa, student visa, work visa, etc.) to the United States again in this lifetime.only if GOD will. The paper you signed states that you have a wrong intent to migrate and that you will never apply for a visa in future.

you are flagged. am sorry

[quote author=Ochioraumu post=30671993]Hello everybody.

So sorry this happened to you. I just searched online to see what Wat this means.

Cancelled with prejudice means that you would most likely be denied a new B-2. They just don't believe you will go back home after your visit. So you would have a few options to immigrate when ready.

Without prejudice means ur visa is canceled bt u may reapply

With prejudice means u ll likely be banned from reapplying. Am sorry.

Phema:
About this circumcision thingy; I beg to differ with the popular belief that the pain is much less when the baby is a few days old. I will say, it depends on the baby, the procedure used and Dr/midwife carrying out the procedure. I did my son's own in Naija (Ring method) when he was about 7weeks and he coped really well. Even better than some days old babies I know. Within a few days, the ring had fallen off and healed very quickly.

I just didn't want to risk it not being done well in the US and having to redo it in Naija. Also, there is better support system back home to care for the baby post circumcision. Then again, make I no lie, that $260 go reach me buy 4 cartons of diapers.

In all, to each, his own. Do what you think is best for your baby.

I agree with you Phema, my son's circumcision was done at 11 weeks and by the end of that day, he was already playing without any sign of pain and the ring fell off on the 7th day. There was a lot of pressure from other mamas in phoenix to do it there but that $260 is just ridiculous.

[quote author=mabels post=30673212][/quote]mabel she can reapply 1000times. Embassy too like money. BUT she might never get the visa.

Wow. This must have been a very traumatising experience.
May God give you the strength to overcome this. Please don't let this get your spirit down.

Back to the matter, yes "Cancelled with Prejudice" sounds harsh but you can still get a new visa. You have not been banned from the USA based on what you said.

It seems as though there was a major misunderstanding with the POE officers especially with the supposed "evidence" they got from your phone. At the end of the day, everyone has a right to change their minds so what is wrong with changing hospitals or destinations?

Whenever you are ready (perhaps after your baby is born. If there is still time, you can even go before the baby but it will prob be too late for you to fly), gather your documents, reflect on your experience at the POE (to help you remember as many details as possible), make an appt for a new US visa and go. Be honest, open and have all your documents.

You may also want to consider getting an experienced immigration lawyer.

May God help us all with this USA baby journey.

Ochioraumu:
Hello everybody.


Please I need to know what that statement means: visa cancelled with prejudice.

I need urgent reply PLEASE!

Ochioraumu:
Hello everybody.
I have been following conversations in this forum for some time

I am so so sorry about your ordeal,its just so sad to read what happened to you,it could have happened to anyone. I dont know how to console you other than to tell you to take heart

Thing is you said u were visiting one state n you headed for another because of all the illegal immigration,oyinbo likes straight forward things.
The paper you signed was ill adviced I think ,cos now you have agreed and can't contest it.
But there is always a way out that your uncle na real bad luck.
Only an immigration lawyer can assess the situation well.

Ochioraumu:
Hello everybody.
I have been following conversations in this forum for some time now. I found useful information that helped me in making a decision about going to El Paso to have my baby. However, I had the biggest blow of my life yesterday at Chicago. They put me through a tough time, and eventually stamped on my passport(visa cancelled with prejudice), and sent me home immediately. I got to Germany and missed my flight due to long cue at the security. Now am stuck there, waiting till 11:00am tomorrow before I can start going back to Naija.
My head is turning round and round. I don't know what do now. I don't even understand what that statement means. I've searched in this forum, but I've only seen, cancelled without prejudice. Please can someone tell me the difference.
My story goes like this:


I need urgent reply PLEASE!

So sorry for what you went through at the POE. However, I found some of the things you stated as part of the reasons why you suffered such a fate.
1. Why was your husband not in full support and backing of you delivering in the US? Is he an illegal immigrant?
2. Why did you depend so much on an uncle when you could have gotten much needed information here?
3. You should have used another doctor instead of this doctorparati thing. We have been reliably informed they are agents not medical doctors. If you had a direct contact with a doctor, I am sure a phone call to him would have saved you from this wahala.

This experience of yours will serve as a lesson to a lot of us here and help one to prepare adequately.
I pray you find favour in your future visa application. Hugs

I hope you got this information from an authorised source and you're not just saying based on what you think you know. Cancelled with prejudice does not always mean the person intended to stay permanently, as far as I know, it means they misrepresented themselves (either with verbal or written information) based on the earlier information provided.
Please don't further compound this lady's anguish.
To Ochioraumu, there's a non immigrant visa thread on NL, you can also ask the VO there to explain what it really means so that we're not all giving you information based on what we think we know.
So sorry for all the stress.

zeezahbee:
ochioraumu, this is really a big one. i really feel for you

let me break it down for you.

CANCEL WITHOUT PREJUDICE Means you came to USA with the wrong class of visa, it doesn't stop you from applying in future.

CANCEL WITH PREJUDICE means Based on your answers, the officer made a determination that you intended to stay permanently (immigrant intent) when you were entering on a temporary , non-immigrant visa. The fact that the decision was made with prejudice means that a non-immigrant visa will most likely not be made available to you again unless you are able to demonstrate that the earlier determination was made in error because the officer concluded you had fraudulent intent to enter permanently.they think you basically lied to get your visa. This is very serious, and called misrepresentation. It doesn't matter whether someone else told you to lie, you had the choice. If you apply again, and the consulate finds that the misrepresentation was material, you have a lifetime ban from re entry.

I wont want you to feel to bad about this whole issue. You obviously didnt plan this whole trip well and you gave too much information at the POE and since your husband is a residence in USA, obviously you have[b] immigrant intent [/b] . they expect him to file an immigrant visa for you. My sister, WITH PREJUDICE It means that you will never be able to get another non-immigrant visa (visitor's visa, student visa, work visa, etc.) to the United States again in this lifetime.only if GOD will. The paper you signed states that you have a wrong intent to migrate and that you will never apply for a visa in future.

you are flagged. am sorry

Hiya, we had our babies in MIHS (Maricopa Integrated Health System) Phoenix and that was price for d maternity-package-plan($2,888) but it has been increased to $5,400. The package is all inclusive. You can check their website www.mihs.org for all info needed.

drafrican:


Pls what hospital did you use, wow under $3k pls share d details of d dr and hospital thanks

shelly23:
I hope you got this information from an authorised source and you're not just saying based on what you think you know. Cancelled with prejudice does not always mean the person intended to stay permanently, as far as I know, it means they misrepresented themselves (either with verbal or written information) based on the earlier information provided.
Please don't further compound this lady's anguish.
To Ochioraumu, there's a non immigrant visa thread on NL, you can also ask the VO there to explain what it really means so that we're not all giving you information based on what we think we know.
So sorry for all the stress.

i quoted on source and i have a friend in Nigeria that was sent back for this same reason. she might get a visa in future but the chances might be slim

zeezahbee:
i quoted on source and i have a friend in Nigeria that was sent back for this same reason. she might get a visa in future but the chances might be slim

Same reason? Or same denial stamp Pls what was your friends story.

drafrican:

Same reason? Or same denial stamp Pls what was your friends story.

cancel with prejudice
and i could also remember someone here got cancel without prejudice and the person is trying to apply for a new visa.

[quote author=Ochioraumu post=30671993]Hello everybody.
I have been following conversations in this forum for some time now. I found useful information that helped me in making a decision about going to El Paso to have my baby. However, I had the biggest blow of my life yesterday at Chicago. They put me through a tough time, and eventually stamped on my passport(visa cancelled with prejudice), and sent me home immediately. I got to Germany and missed my flight due to long cue at the security. Now am stuck there, waiting till 11:00am tomorrow before I can start going back to Naija.
My head is turning round and round. I don't know what do now. I don't even understand what that statement means. I've searched in this forum, but I've only seen, cancelled without prejudice. Please can someone tell me the difference.
My story goes like this:

This happened to my sister some years ago at the same airport... Chicago isn't a friendly POE and I never advise my pregnant friends to go through there. The difference btw your story and my sister's is that she refused to be returned as she asked for a doctor's approval before she was sent back. Fortunately for her the doctor said she wasn't fit to fly back so the officers had no choice but to let her in but her visa was still cancelled.
Now what she did when she got back to Nigeria was to get a good immigration lawyer and her zero balance and she got her visa renewed despite it was cancelled with prejudice.

I'm just disheartened on your behalf that you had to go through all that with all the sacrifices made. Maybe you should just go to the uk and have the baby as opposed to going back to Nigeria.

Good luck.

TAKE NOTE: CHICAGO AND HOUSTON AIRPORT gat no nonsense CBP officer. so if you can not stand on your foot , bold and blunt with super power prayers to bind them. Please don't pass through those 2 airports.

even people that fly local, i have my experience with them wella. they will search you like thief

GO TO NY, DALLAS, ATLANTA. those ones never get pin for eye

Thank you everyone for your advice and sympathy. I actually did refuse initially, but then the lady threatened to jail me if i fail to sign the papers and voluntarily withdraw my application. My aim was to buy time with the refusal hoping that the doctores para ti will call back. but the lady kept shouting at me, saying that i must go tonight, and that if i miss that flight, they will jail me. i wasn't sure what my rights were, and with the way they were going about it, i feared having complications with my situation, and also started developing some fear that doctores para ti might be fake after all, even though deep within me, that fear wasn't very strong, as i had met a friend of mine whose wife used them. also when i saw the stamp on my visa, i felt that all hope was lost, how tough skinned i played. i didn't know i could still have been granted permission to stay. again, in addition to the whole thing, my doctor in Nigeria had already written me a letter of fitness to fly, which they had seen and had concluded that i was fit to fly if they sent me back home.

Nogen:
the questions you were asking are not the case here. I have my husband's full support. he is not an imigrant of the US not to talk of legal or illegal. he wrote me a letter of support for the application.

the thing is that those people seemed to have already made up their mind even before they started asking me questions.

i have been in contact with the doctores para ti after getting internet access here in germany. they are happy to write me a personalised letter if i am reapplying. they were surprised at the whole thing and said it was wrong, and that it has never happened before with them. they are also happy to refund me my deposit, if i am no longer coming.
i have spoken to my husband about it all. he is more concerned about my safety and that of my baby, and he doesnt mind me coming back home where i will have more people around me to care for me both before and after delivery, even though he is happy with whatever decision i make about it. he feels there is no need for me to rush back into it to avoid exposing myself to unnecessary emotional trauma. bt i am still confused. one minute i am very annoyed at the whole thing and feel like bull-shitting the US and their visa, but the next minute, when i remember how much preparations ive made and how so much my mind was set on it, i feel like dying. i have been trying so so hard not to break down, both emotionally and healthwise, as i have lost appetitie. ive only eaten once today. i couldnt eat what they gave me in the flight to germany.
the worst part of the whole thing is that there is not enough informattion about these things on the US consular website, unlike the UK that will give you informaion to the very last.

@ ochioraumu, pele it is well, please eat something because of the baby. Everything will be fine, let time pass and reapply you might be lucky again , one of my husband's past us visas has cancelled without prejudice I think the first one and the other ones have just cancelled; I don't even know the meaning of cancelled without prejudice . Even my aunt that went to the embassy and lied and the consular officer discovered after 3 more attempts she was given again, don't loose hope, you will be fine by God's grace. I'm so sorry about your present situation.

Hello guys. Pls what is the cheapest phone network provider to use in the US especially Houston .the last time I was there I spent like $100 bi weekly on a TMobile line where I was charged to make n receive calls now m hoping for a mobile plan with Data n all . Will appreciate advice.

@Ochioraumu, so sorry my darling. Please ,try and eat something. May the favour of God locate you in whatever decision you make now but biko be strong for you and your baby. Xoxo.

Adiahabasi:
Shayo,thanks for the break down.Pls is d 3300/5600 inclusive of dr's bill?when does d 24hrs for vaginal delivery start counting?Is it when one gets to the hospital I.e when labour starts or immediately after delivery?thanks

Dr's fee is $2965,it includes regular labs and a sonogram.
I think the 24 hrs starts from when labor starts,I was admitted on Tuesday and discharged on Thursday.

lalavita:
Wow. This must have been a very traumatising experience.
May God give you the strength to overcome this. Please don't let this get your spirit down.

Back to the matter, yes "Cancelled with Prejudice" sounds harsh but you can still get a new visa. You have not been banned from the USA based on what you said.

It seems as though there was a major misunderstanding with the POE officers especially with the supposed "evidence" they got from your phone. At the end of the day, everyone has a right to change their minds so what is wrong with changing hospitals or destinations?

Whenever you are ready (perhaps after your baby is born. If there is still time, you can even go before the baby but it will prob be too late for you to fly), gather your documents, reflect on your experience at the POE (to help you remember as many details as possible), make an appt for a new US visa and go. Be honest, open and have all your documents.

You may also want to consider getting an experienced immigration lawyer.

May God help us all with this USA baby journey.

Immigration lawyer for a non immigrant visa? I hope she doesn't end up wasting her hard earned money on a lawyer. I hope you did not implicate yourself when they were bombarding you with questions because I know for a fact that you must have been exhausted coupled with the fact that they type everything in those their amebo computers .
Getting entry into the United States should never be taken for granted by us no matter how many times we may have had a successful POE. A friend experienced the same treatment a few days ago. She had her first child 2yrs ago and came back this year after a successful renewal. She was taken to secondary and grilled for 4hrs. He bags were searched,phone, emails ,call logs etc. she was stamped in for 3weeks! She had to return home because she is due in April and 3weeks wasn't going to cut it and the clown knew it.. I guess she is fortunate that hers wasn't cancelled. We just need grace at POE . The day such inhuman crap happens to me will be the last time i take my hard earned money back there.

Please do not talk about dying because of some people's foolishness at POE. You should put all your time and effort to your unborn baby. America can go to hell with its visa. It's our corrupt politicians that continue to expose us to this insults and risk flying thousands of miles for good health care and blue kpali smh. It is well

Airpure:
Hello guys. Pls what is the cheapest phone network provider to use in the US especially Houston .the last time I was there I spent like $100 bi weekly on a TMobile line where I was charged to make n receive calls now m hoping for a mobile plan with Data n all . Will appreciate advice.

T mobile is the cheapest. You need to get the prepaid plan I pay 45 dollars a month unlimited calls & text and 2 gb data which I hardly use at home unless I'm out.
Just walk into any TMobile and ask for their prepaid plans they have up to $60 plan but I chose the $45 one.
Good luck

@ochioraumu, my dear for now just focus on getting home and resting. Get something to eat and relax in your flight if u can, I know it's hard. But u shouldn't be stressing and giving yourself HBP now. When u get back to Abuja, u can contact the embassy, and get WELL-INFORMED answers to your question. Just take it easy nne.

Airpure:
Hello guys. Pls what is the cheapest phone network provider to use in the US especially Houston .the last time I was there I spent like $100 bi weekly on a TMobile line where I was charged to make n receive calls now m hoping for a mobile plan with Data n all . Will appreciate advice.

Heard that Uber mobile is the cheapest. $19 per month for 1000 minutes nationwide, and unlimited texts. Google them.

please is it okay to go for visa interview with a 3 day hotel reservation and printout of apartments with prices and state that I hope to rent an apartment after viewing them for myself? In actuality, I'll be staying with a friend for the whole childbirth process.