Seun:
The (only) was added by me because 90% is a very low number. It's not acceptable for up to 10% of the electorate to be disenfranchised.

In the event that it fails in the paltry 10%, there are other card readers that can be brought in to replace the failed ones. Or are they irreplaceable?

Good observation by Sen Omoworare that since court had ruled that Military has no business in electioneering so the service chiefs cant come again that they cant guarantee security and if they do it should only affect the affected areas

iluvnaija:


Don't ask me, ask INEC.

As far as I am concern card reader will work perfectly. I was demonstrated today and has been demonstrated any times before and it's been working very well.

You the card reader?

picaso77:
DID YOU TEST RUN THE TECHNO PHONE BEFORE YOU BUY IT?

you dey mind them,they should test it for a year so pdp can make their own version.

Zuria:
The concept is good but the process seems flawed. I'm not impressed by it sha....

Flawed? Elucidate pls!

I've missed it

So how does it work. Do you then take the PVC and cast your vote? Or is it still ballot box and paper? Because Fayose can still seize it in the bushes and stuff it ooo?

oloye121:
It takes a average of 30 seconds to verify the voter. The accreditation period is between 8am and 12 pm. 4 hours. The card reader is configured to work during this period. That means that the reader will only be able to accredit less than 500 voters. In my unit we have more than 1000 registered voters. So what will happen to the rest ? . I hope this will not lead to a breakdown of law and order

Bro, I like the way u reason, ur question is reasonable. For your information, provision has already been made for that. Once a poling Unit exceeds a certain number (470 I guess), provision is made for Voting point at the poling unit with another machine. It therefore means that a poling unit can have more than one card reader. That takes care of that. The beauty of it is that INEC would have known ab initio that a poling unit requires more that one card reader from their record.

agabusta:


Give us the update jor. Which question? Some of us are following from the office.

JEGA said accreditation with the card reader starts from 8am-1pm. Then voting starts from 1pm - God knows when.

Abaribe did a very good mathematical analysis that if INEC uses card reader in a ward that has 500 eligible voters, that btw 8-1pm is a 5hours time frame, now if you are doing accreditation on 1minute per person( which was not even possible from the way tried to show us on TV) that it means 60 people will be accredited at 60mins and 300 eligible voters will be accredited at 5hours thereby INEC will disenfranchise the remaining 200 Nigerians... For that it may not be possible using the card reader.
Bros na so "NEPA" take light o.

I

komek:


JEGA said accreditation with the card reader starts from 8am-1pm. Then voting starts from 1pm - God knows when.

Abaribe did a very good mathematical analysis that if INEC uses card reader in a ward that has 500 eligible voters, that btw 8-1pm is a 5hours time frame, now if you are doing accreditation on 1minute per person( which was not even possible from the way tried to show us on TV) that it means 60 people will be accredited at 60mins and 300 eligible voters will be accredited at 5hours thereby INEC will disenfranchise the remaining 200 Nigerians... For that it may not be possible using the card reader.
Bros na so "NEPA" take light o.

"we tried to locate your polling units on the reader we used here for demonstration thats why it took some much time, the readers coming to ur polling units are programmed for ur area so it would take 10-30 seconds in the hands of a trained adhoc staff"....prof jega

komek:


JEGA said accreditation with the card reader starts from 8am-1pm. Then voting starts from 1pm - God knows when.

Abaribe did a very good mathematical analysis that if INEC uses card reader in a ward that has 500 eligible voters, that btw 8-1pm is a 5hours time frame, now if you are doing accreditation on 1minute per person( which was not even possible from the way tried to show us on TV) that it means 60 people will be accredited at 60mins and 300 eligible voters will be accredited at 5hours thereby INEC will disenfranchise the remaining 200 Nigerians... For that it may not be possible using the card reader.
Bros na so "NEPA" take light o.

He already said there will be more than one card reader in places wher we have more than 500 voters

What's the purpose of this stupid question from Heineken that how do you classify the offense of the person that snatch or stole card reader
Is he thinking of punishment that may be meted out to him if he organizes same
This guy just dey ask stupid question & observations

jaybee3:

makes perfect sense then
I like the fact that chips are being used in the readers as they can be forensically analysed if needed

Slowly but surely we shall get there

Sure.

Sajio:
Jega shouldn't stop @telling us the advantages of this machine but also it's possible disadvantage.. we don't want a situation where the card reader will shutdown pending on its usage.... how durable it is, can it work effectively thru out the day?.. I remembered how my Tecno phone got spoiled via long talk on phone. twas very hot and before I know it went off and that was the end of that phone.. I would prefer they test run it b4 using it in the election.. we don't want to hear any story ooh

There are many card readers. Thus , a malfunctioning one can be easily replaced. If you had several techno phones at that time, you would have simply removed your sim and put it in another. Shikena

CARD READERS MUST BE USED,WETHER PDP LIKE IT OR NOT.

amanze15:
I "we tried to locate your polling units on the reader we used here for demonstration thats why it took some much time, the readers coming to ur polling units are programmed for ur area so it would take 10-30 seconds in the hands of a trained adhoc staff"....prof jega

Locating the designated readers for the units of the senators have nothing to do with the accreditation time.

It is obvious that 30 seconds will/may not be enough per accreditation, consequently dislodging others after the 5-hour mark.

Arabambi1:
What's the purpose of this stupid question from Heineken that how do you classify the offense of the person that snatch or stole card reader
Is he thinking of punishment that may be meted out to him if he organizes same
This guy just dey ask stupid question & observations

hahahaha,the bible said,the fullnes of the heart,the mouth speaketh,he want to snatch card reader thats why.

Gliding:

There are many card readers. Thus , a malfunctioning one can be easily replaced. If you had several techno phones at that time, you would have simply removed your sim and put it in another. Shikena

It doesn't work that way sir, every card reader is programmed for its corresponding unit. If it develops a fault, a reader for another unit can not work, except it is re-programmed.

[quote author=Punkinmusty post=30848984][/quote]your assertion is malicious...may God impose the must righteous man to lead our nation well

Jega said,card reader is not an option,but a necessity.,look at the disappointment on the face of that senator from bayelsa.

Arabambi1:
What's the purpose of this stupid question from Heineken that how do you classify the offense of the person that snatch or stole card reader
Is he thinking of punishment that may be meted out to him if he organizes same
This guy just dey ask stupid question & observations

He wants to know how far his powers can take him, in a case where he'll need to bail his thugs.

hmm i,m watching this political jamboree with keen interest. Well online polls conducted so far proves majority of Nigerians have rejected PDP and GEJ. We are just tired of PDP Let's see what others can do. We have seen PDP for how many years? We have seen what they are up to.
Let's see another party take up the reins.

Seun:
They have done just a few field tests and those tests were "over" 90% successful. He feels comfortable that these card readers can be used. But they cannot be perfect. Some of them will not work. Only 500 of the card readers (0.03% of the total) have failed. Their agreement with parties is that if the card reader fails during accreditation, then they will try and replace it, and the time lost will be added for accreditation. But if they cannot replace it on time, and they don't see why they can't because there will be redundancies in every ward, the elections will be postponed until the next day and there will be no revertion to manual voting otherwise it's guaranteed that the card readers will be sabotaged.

I read somewhere there's 3009 polling units with slightly more PVC readers 500 is nearing 20% and not 0.03 of the total. Which is significant.

@op has anyone asked about battery failures? I also read the reader doesn't last more than 6 hours and apparently its required for 10?? And polling units with large numbers? And of course what happens when it doesn't work and who decides? Or does eot cover all that?

komek:


JEGA said accreditation with the card reader starts from 8am-1pm. Then voting starts from 1pm - God knows when.

Abaribe did a very good mathematical analysis that if INEC uses card reader in a ward that has 500 eligible voters, that btw 8-1pm is a 5hours time frame, now if you are doing accreditation on 1minute per person( which was not even possible from the way tried to show us on TV) that it means 60 people will be accredited at 60mins and 300 eligible voters will be accredited at 5hours thereby INEC will disenfranchise the remaining 200 Nigerians... For that it may not be possible using the card reader.
Bros na so "NEPA" take light o.

Please can anybody give jega's response to the question above? Have not seen any reason answer to circumvent this problem

jaybee3:


Are you the card reader?

komek:


JEGA said accreditation with the card reader starts from 8am-1pm. Then voting starts from 1pm - God knows when.

Abaribe did a very good mathematical analysis that if INEC uses card reader in a ward that has 500 eligible voters, that btw 8-1pm is a 5hours time frame, now if you are doing accreditation on 1minute per person( which was not even possible from the way tried to show us on TV) that it means 60 people will be accredited at 60mins and 300 eligible voters will be accredited at 5hours thereby INEC will disenfranchise the remaining 200 Nigerians... For that it may not be possible using the card reader.
Bros na so "NEPA" take light o.

They did mention 30 secs per accreditation
2*60*5 = 600

Worst case sceario it gets extended for an extra hour but trust Nigerians to turn up late then demand special priviledges

Imanuelle:


It doesn't work that way sir, every card reader is programmed for its corresponding unit. If it develops a fault, a reader for another unit can not work, except it is re-programmed.

But INEC claim that it can be replaced. I think the card readers can be configured to work for any polling unit so long as you have imputed the data for that unit on it. Its akin to the way you can easily transfer your contacts from one phone to another now.

Imanuelle:


It doesn't work that way sir, every card reader is programmed for its corresponding unit. If it develops a fault, a reader for another unit can not work, except it is re-programmed.

Okay. I didn't see the "Reprogrammed" initially. So the only issue will be to reprogramme it, which should not be too difficult.

queensmith:
I've missed it

So how does it work. Do you then take the PVC and cast your vote? Or is it still ballot box and paper? Because Fayose can still seize it in the bushes and stuff it ooo?

This is how it works bro.
Two processes are involved. The processes are:
1. Authentication
2. Verification

Authentication has to do with confirmation of the genuiness of the card u present for voting. How does it work? The card is placed beneath the card reader, within about 3 seconds, the card is read and confirmation made to the genuiness of the card (even if the card is not meant for the polling unit). This confirms that INEC issued the card and not a cloned one. Note that u can only used the card to vote at a poling unit if it has been configured for that polling unit even if the machine 'says' it is a genuine card. Once the card is not meant for a polling unit, the machine detects and refer the owner to its proper polling unit. If the machines fails to read the card reader at all, it is deamed fake and will not be allowed for voting anywhere. After Authentication, comes verification.
2. Verification: This refers to detecting whether you are the rightful owner of the card. It is the next step after authentication and having confirmed that the card is meant for the poling unit. You will be required to place one of your ten fingers on a fingerprint reader interface on the machine, once the machine recognises/read successfully any of your ten fingers and your facial appearance confirmed to match, u are deemed verified. In case the card reader failed to read your finger prints but your facial appearance and othe information on the card are verified to match on the machine and manual voters register, you will be allowed to vote. This rare case will be treated in a form named 'Incidental form'.

Thank you.

Gliding:

But INEC claim that it can be replaced. I think the card readers can be configured to work for any polling unit so long as you have imputed the data for that unit on it. Its akin to the way you can easily transfer your contacts from one phone to another now.

Remember, the agents will already be on ground to have noticed that the reader is defaulted, the Presiding officer and his assistants have no knowledge on how to configure these card readers, the EO and other executives will be too busy, moving around, typical election day situation on ground, everyone is busy, its a simple reality sir, besides, who will have the time to start transferring a supposedly encrypted data? That is not even in the possession of the low level-reachable electoral officers?

These things will happen, we can only hope that it doesn't happen on a large scale.

Gliding:

There are many card readers. Thus , a malfunctioning one can be easily replaced. If you had several techno phones at that time, you would have simply removed your sim and put it in another. Shikena

.... how would u get the real figure wen u start changing card readers?

queensmith:

I read somewhere there's 3009 polling units with slightly more PVC readers 500 is nearing 20% and not 0.03 of the total. Which is significant.
@op has anyone asked about battery failures? I also read the reader doesn't last more than 6 hours and apparently its required for 10?? And polling units with large numbers? And of course what happens when it doesn't work and who decides? Or does eot cover all that?

The 0.03% is in respect to the total of card readers in their possession which is around 182,000 out of which about 500 is defective.

Concerning the battery, a fully charged battery of the card reader will last up to 14 hours of serious usage and the accreditation is just 5 hours. In the case of polling units with large number of voters above 500, voting points will be created by INEC to cater for that. If the card reader does not work, provision will be made for replacement and if with all efforts replacement cannot be made within the time frame of the election, then the election is postponed till the next day wherein a functional card reader will be brought in.