brownlord:


You mean Tinubu, Obj and Atiku now shouting change?


This APC you are exposing, kai diaris god o

aryzgreat:




But Why is buhari always left in d cold at d dying minute despite the huge cosmetic cover up and window dressing on his person this time by apc handlers. I must say they tried a lot in masking buhari just that no matter d amount if perfume used on d local he-goat, the odor will never be suppressed bc the source if d odour is internal.

Buhari can not be marketed to Nigerians, He is a bad product.

ayox2003:


Its just like asking why you should vote the Democratic party over the Republican party in the US? Who cares? For the records, more politicians have crossed from the Democrats to GOP and vice-versa than any two party in history.

What a lot of you posters here don't know is that at the birth of democracy, history has shown that a lot of politicians cross - carpet until each party forms an unspoken ideology.

There was the Federalist Party, Jeffersonian Party, National Republican Party, Whig Party - all these won presidential elections way before the formation of the Democrats & GOP that we now have in the US. So if our 16year old democracy can give us 2 strong political parties to choose from, and I've experienced one for those years with little to show for it, why not give the other a try?

I believe alot of you here are cheapstakes, easy to buy, one dime a dozen, that you flip as soon as PDP throws bone at you. So I won't be surprised if the OP becomes the latest mongrel.


Frawzey

Mynd44:
The APC which seems to be the main opposition to the PDP in Nigeria has for sometime now been vigorously pushing for the ousting of President
Jonathan and his administration in the next general elections and they will need the votes of the general public. They’ve been doing some convincing to the people who are undecided, now regarded with the somewhat derogatory term of “fencist”. Right now, I find myself sitting down wondering about some important issues. My questions are based on these points.

Body Language: In the last Presidential elections, the APC (or if you like ACN) had a candidate to run against the president and just hours before the election, they allegedly dumped him for reasons best
known to them. This singular act shows them as unserious and some might even say they are just in the race for running sake. In my opinion, the greatest damage done by that singular act was to their supporters and of course the candidate, AIG Nuhu Ribadu (rtd). After all the resources and funds put
into a campaign you chicken out in the end and leave your people to dry? It speaks volume as they have set a precedence of them being unserious.

Candidates: I am not comfortable with some presidential candidates the APC brought. Buhari, Atiku etc are not what I will call presidential materials either based on past mismanagement of funds or being a dictator to human right abuses. Why not others? How come more people are not opting to contest and seek office? Must we be saddled with the same old people? Yes we know people like Kwankwoso and Rochas contested in the primary but still it was evident from the start that it was a battle
between Buhari and Atiku. Atiku was third (which remains a shocker)

Insecurity: This is another problem. We all admit that this is a problem for all Nigerians but has the APC done enough to fight it? Have they shown support towards fighting this scourge that has left thousands dead, about a million displaced and also
fear in the heart of a lot of Nigerians? What has the APC done to support the fight apart from endless criticism? Have APC brought out or proffered solutions to fighting this? The killing of members of the NYSC in the North after the elections comes to mind. Some may say that most of the perpetrators were CPC supporters but they have joined the ACN
to form APC, so APC should please answer. Statements: This is another point that has been scary (well to me). A lot of statements credited to top members of the APC has not been confortable ones. I find it careless and annoying the statements I hear and sometimes, I fear they can cause war.
Notable amongst these statements is the threat by the Director-General of their Presidential campaign, Governor Rotimi Amaechi that a parallel government
will be formed if they lose. Does anyone remember that this kind of action led to the arrest and detention of Chief MKO Abiola?

Political Prostitution: It is difficult seeing a candidate scream XYZ today and tomorrow screams ABC. Most of the members of the APC were once in the opposition which they labelled as thieves and
corrupt. Look at the case of Ekiti where Segun Oni joined the APC. That is a move that shocked even me because everyone remember the propaganda war he had with Fayemi before the courts declared in Fayemi’s favor. Endless Criticisms: Okay so the APC plays the role of an opposition party well. Yes they know how to criticize everything this administration does when
campaigning but is that what their campaigns are about? I am tired of hearing what the other guys are going, what do you have for us. When you criticize, you need to also give solutions so you don’t seem to be just doing it because you can or because you are against them. The APC and PDP are both agents of Nigeria’s development right but how about saying what the government is doing right and then when you say what they are doing wrong, tell them what they should have done.

Future Plans: What does the APC have for us? What are their ideas, what will they do about security, poverty, electricity, mortality rate. Education etc. No one is talking about this or they are not talking about it enough. It seems to be a case
of making a lot of noise but not really saying
anything.


Source: http://opinionriver.com/church/opinion-politics/

ayox2003:


Its just like asking why you should vote the Democratic party over the Republican party in the US? Who cares? For the records, more politicians have crossed from the Democrats to GOP and vice-versa than any two party in history.

What a lot of you posters here don't know is that at the birth of democracy, history has shown that a lot of politicians cross - carpet until each party forms an unspoken ideology.

There was the Federalist Party, Jeffersonian Party, National Republican Party, Whig Party - all these won presidential elections way before the formation of the Democrats & GOP that we now have in the US. So if our 16year old democracy can give us 2 strong political parties to choose from, and I've experienced one for those years with little to show for it, why not give the other a try?

I believe alot of you here are cheapstakes, easy to buy, one dime a dozen, that you flip as soon as PDP throws bone at you. So I won't be surprised if the OP becomes the latest mongrel.


Frawzey

Mynd44:


Body Language: In the last Presidential elections, the APC (or if you like ACN) had a candidate to run against the president and just hours before the election, they allegedly dumped him for reasons best
known to them. This singular act shows them as unserious and some might even say they are just in the race for running sake. In my opinion, the greatest damage done by that singular act was to their supporters and of course the candidate, AIG Nuhu Ribadu (rtd). After all the resources and funds put
into a campaign you chicken out in the end and leave your people to dry? It speaks volume as they have set a precedence of them being unserious.

Mynd44:

Candidates: I am not comfortable with some presidential candidates the APC brought. Buhari, Atiku etc are not what I will call presidential materials either based on past mismanagement of funds or being a dictator to human right abuses. Why not others? How come more people are not opting to contest and seek office? Must we be saddled with the same old people? Yes we know people like Kwankwoso and Rochas contested in the primary but still it was evident from the start that it was a battle
between Buhari and Atiku. Atiku was third (which remains a shocker)

Mynd44:

Insecurity: This is another problem. We all admit that this is a problem for all Nigerians but has the APC done enough to fight it? Have they shown support towards fighting this scourge that has left thousands dead, about a million displaced and also
fear in the heart of a lot of Nigerians? What has the APC done to support the fight apart from endless criticism? Have APC brought out or proffered solutions to fighting this? The killing of members of the NYSC in the North after the elections comes to mind. Some may say that most of the perpetrators were CPC supporters but they have joined the ACN
to form APC, so APC should please answer. Statements: This is another point that has been scary (well to me). A lot of statements credited to top members of the APC has not been confortable ones. I find it careless and annoying the statements I hear and sometimes, I fear they can cause war.
Notable amongst these statements is the threat by the Director-General of their Presidential campaign, Governor Rotimi Amaechi that a parallel government
will be formed if they lose. Does anyone remember that this kind of action led to the arrest and detention of Chief MKO Abiola?

Mynd44:

Political Prostitution: It is difficult seeing a candidate scream XYZ today and tomorrow screams ABC. Most of the members of the APC were once in the opposition which they labelled as thieves and
corrupt. Look at the case of Ekiti where Segun Oni joined the APC. That is a move that shocked even me because everyone remember the propaganda war he had with Fayemi before the courts declared in Fayemi’s favor. Endless Criticisms: Okay so the APC plays the role of an opposition party well. Yes they know how to criticize everything this administration does when
campaigning but is that what their campaigns are about? I am tired of hearing what the other guys are going, what do you have for us. When you criticize, you need to also give solutions so you don’t seem to be just doing it because you can or because you are against them. The APC and PDP are both agents of Nigeria’s development right but how about saying what the government is doing right and then when you say what they are doing wrong, tell them what they should have done.

Mynd44:

Future Plans: What does the APC have for us? What are their ideas, what will they do about security, poverty, electricity, mortality rate. Education etc. No one is talking about this or they are not talking about it enough. It seems to be a case
of making a lot of noise but not really saying
anything.

aryzgreat:
[s][/s]

Easy to brand any one that opposes ur idea "cheapstake, bought" etc.

Let me ask u, do u just switch lane blindly simply bc ur lane is bumpy without looking ahead to know if d lane u intend switching to has a broken down truck packed there? U just switch blindly to waste ur life?

Guy, apc has not proved they are better alternative simple, d desperation at grabbing power is their greatest undoing

Mynd44:

Sure everyone does but why should I be campaigned to vote APC?

stebell:
See this guy O°˚˚˚
Yu want those guys who insulted Barcanista to come down heavily on yu??

Mynd44:

Why not address these issues first?

Descartes:
Nigerians, can the "Toronto" General Buhari cum certificate forger and his corrupt allies such as Atiku, Tinubu, Obj, Saraki, Amaechi, etc in APC be trusted with absolute power if they event get to the centre?Finally APC is a Scam!!

jdilight:
APC is a gathering of all bad eggs from PDP.

ayox2003:


Its just like asking why you should vote the Democratic party over the Republican party in the US? Who cares? For the records, more politicians have crossed from the Democrats to GOP and vice-versa than any two party in history.

What a lot of you posters here don't know is that at the birth of democracy, history has shown that a lot of politicians cross - carpet until each party forms an unspoken ideology.

There was the Federalist Party, Jeffersonian Party, National Republican Party, Whig Party - all these won presidential elections way before the formation of the Democrats & GOP that we now have in the US. So if our 16year old democracy can give us 2 strong political parties to choose from, and I've experienced one for those years with little to show for it, why not give the other a try?

I believe alot of you here are cheapstakes, easy to buy, one dime a dozen, that you flip as soon as PDP throws bone at you. So I won't be surprised if the OP becomes the latest mongrel.


Frawzey

VICTORCIZA:
THANK YOU MYND FOR THIS EYES OPENING THREAD

Rawani:


First of all, the APC has never contested a Presidential election before now, the party you speak about is the ACN, which merged with other parites like the CPC and ANPP among others, to form the APC in February 2013. That said, it is acknowledged that the principal officers of the ACN at the time are the current promoters of the APC. However the decision regarding Ribadu was actually a strategic one. After a thorough assessment of their candidate's chances, it was agreed that Ribadu would not be able to match either President Goodluck Jonathan or ex-Vice President Atiku Abubakar of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP). In the North, it was doubtful if Ribadu would be able to pull support that can match Atiku for instance or get the level of acceptance that Buhari currently enjoys. In addition, the plan by the party to go into an alliance with other parties who were coming with presidential aspirants seen as having wider acceptability than Ribadu, also informed this decision.



The APC was formed as a result of the absence of a formidable opposition party which could effectively check the excesses of the ruling party on one hand, and attempt to wrestle power from it on the other. Since politics is a game of numbers, it is politically expedient to present candidates that have enough voter support to achieve one of the fundamental aims of the party which is to wrestle power from a humongous party such as the PDP (that has in fact boasted of retaining the presidency for 60 years) which has ruled for 16 years of our national existence, the entire 4th republic. General Buhari, while possessing the qualities to deliver Nigeria from its quagmire of corruption and insecurity among others, possesses the followership and acceptability to ensure that the party achieves one of its fundamental aims. The most important thing is the manifesto of the party (http://apc.com.ng/index.php/about-apc/apc-manifesto) which will be religiously adhered to by whichever candidate that runs on the party's ticket.



You will agree with me that the instrumentality for fighting the insurgency lies with our Armed Forces, which are commanded and controlled by the C-in-C (President Jonathan) and the Military authorities, also appointed and administered by the President. Therefore i'm at a loss as to what you expect from the APC. What you term as criticism, is actually what keeps the ruling party on its toes as loopholes are identified and pointed out, albeit in a castigating manner, underlining its role as an opposition party. The same obtains in more matured democracies like the U.S, where the democrats relentlessly criticised President Bush for his war in Iraq. With regard to unguarded statements, while mot are outbursts of emotion which could be excused, none can be worse than that of the PDP's Lawal Kaita who pledged that the country would be made ungovernable.



Again I re-iterate that members and candidates of the APC are guided by the manifesto of the party. Whatever shenanigans they were up to in the PDP occurs only because the party and the system tolerates it. When last have you heard of any PDP manifesto? Guiding principle? Ideology? None. It is therefore not surprising that all kinds of nonsense is allowed to fester there. Members of the APC are forced to imbibe the discipline inherent in the party and adopt its progressive ideology, and the party's internal democratic principles (as was evident during the primaries) as internal control measures ensure that members are consistently kept in line.



As a change Agent, APC intend to cleanse our closet to halt the dangerous drift of Nigeria to a failed state; with a conscious plan for post-oil-economy in Nigeria. To achieve this laudable programme APC government shall restructure the country, devolve power to the units, with the best practices of federalism and eliminate unintended paralysis of the center.

In sum, we subscribe to and shall preserve the fundamental objectives and directive principles of state policy as enshrined in chapter two of the 1999 constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria as amended, and without any intention to abandon any ideal which will guarantee the corporate welfare and security of our people. We specifically offer these 7 (seven) cardinal programmes:- (WBA-IFD) to the Nigeria populace.

War Against Corruption
Food Security
Accelerated Power Supply
Integrated Transport Network
Free Education
Devolution of Power
Accelerated Economic Growth
Affordable Health Care

More

This Is Why You Should Vote The APC.

Jesusloveyou:
d progressive in pdp are d one decamping,

vedaxcool:
Oga Mynd44 abeg vote APC, I have read their manifesto and truly when implemented, would lead this country to greatness, their manifesto aren't only wishes but provide concrete steps towards actualizing each goal and strategy listed

10 So Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking for a king from him. 11 He said, “These will be the ways of the king who will reign over you: he will take your sons and appoint them to his chariots and to be his horsemen and to run before his chariots. 12 And he will appoint for himself commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and some to plow his ground and to reap his harvest, and to make his implements of war and the equipment of his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive orchards and give them to his servants. 15 He will take the tenth of your grain and of your vineyards and give it to his officers and to his servants. 16 He will take your male servants and female servants and the best of your young men[a] and your donkeys, and put them to his work. 17 He will take the tenth of your flocks, and you shall be his slaves. 18 And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”

stebell:
See this guy O°˚˚˚
Yu want those guys who insulted Barcanista to come down heavily on yu??

Well let grab ma seat and a bowl of popcorn wit ma glass of Nutri C cos I kno the children of hate and anger will surely come here and give yu the Barcanista treatment.

APC are empty barrels. The party is filled wit thieves and never do well. Their gathering to oust GEJ will not work. Never. They hav nothing to offer jus to grab power and share the oil blocks among themselves.

Anyway, let them gather, it's still gonna be GEJ till 2019.

sparkleboy:


Seriously! Is barcarnista no more an APC supporter?

brownlord:


Yea, maybe they beginning to see the light. As in that buhari is unelectable.

Only a blind man will support a candidate who some of party leaders referred to as unelectable and not capable of ruling the country in previous election. El rufai, OBJ

Only a fanatics will allow a one time chairman and national leader of a corrupt party and a president with his vice having the most corrupt administration join you chanting CHANGE

Only a demented brain, will shout change because Obj said Jonathan is corrupt because the man denied him ministerial appointment for his cronies and refuse to be a puppet, perhaps if jonathan had agreed to drop sambo for lamido baba would sing a new song.

Lol, APC a party without clear vision and principles

opiaoku:


Were you dey since?

A whole lieutenant like you abandoning the war front

Well welcome back bro


Mynd44 welcome in the fold of elites and the transformers.


Barcanista see what damages you have done to apc bastards

stebell:
See this guy O°˚˚˚
Yu want those guys who insulted Barcanista to come down heavily on yu??

Well let grab ma seat and a bowl of popcorn wit ma glass of Nutri C cos I kno the children of hate and anger will surely come here and give yu the Barcanista treatment.

APC are empty barrels. The party is filled wit thieves and never do well. Their gathering to oust GEJ will not work. Never. They hav nothing to offer jus to grab power and share the oil blocks among themselves.

Anyway, let them gather, it's still gonna be GEJ till 2019.