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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by anonimi: 5:00pm On Mar 16, 2015
slimmy05:
I can't debate with an empty skull like you. Go get yourself a better job

You mean she should go back to her sewing mistress work after she don taste easy money from APC dollarisation? I doubt if my beautiful berem go fit do that oh.
Odiro easy grin cheesy

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by aresa: 5:01pm On Mar 16, 2015
barcanista:
Who bribe who? Why do you like to accuse people without evidence? Jonathan will visit people, you'all will call it "bribe". Very funny of you! Always making empty allegation...

The people he bribed have anounced to Nigerians that he offered them bribe, its all over many newspapers that he is bribing traditonal rulers in the SW and till this very second, he's yet to deny it so what are you talking about?

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by dedos(m): 5:01pm On Mar 16, 2015
stronger:
Nice attempt.

Few points:

(1) Bola Ige said the Yorubas are about 50 years more educationally advanced than the rest of the country. This plays a part in the level of "awareness" and lack of ignorance. What am I trying to say, The yorubas are SMART and will ask themselves WHO IS THE RIGHT CANDIDATE! So I insist that they will not follow one party like a bunch of sheep led to slaughter. They will think for themselves. So your party analyses falls apart when you assume because Accord, SPD or LP say so. . lol

(2) Unfortunately Ethnicity and "What has he done for us" still plays a part in Nigerian politics. I say "unfortunately" because the choice of a leader should not be about what he did for ME but what he did for us. That said, most Nigerians still feel that way. Bros, go to the streets and feel the pulse. THE YORUBAS feel very SHORTCHANGED by the GEj Admin. You ca take that to the bank!! And they intend to reciprocate in the elections. . which takes me to point (3)

(3) The Osibanjo effect. This is one of the reasons why Amaechi or Oshiomole did not emerge as VP. Of course the main reason is that Tinubu who is the brain behind ACN and the APC merger had to have a "stake". But because they knew they needed a yoruba vote, they made sure the VP is a YORUBA man! You don't seem to consider this in your analyses. The OUR SON effect (Which GEJ is banking on in Rivers/Delta/Bayelsa) is going to work for Osibanjo, at least to an extent.

(4) The last point I will raise is the OPC/AFENIFERE angle! Wait let me laugh. . grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

This is where you ruined your analyses!!!

The influence of OPC?? Afenifere?!!! Bwahahahahaahah!!

In fact, I won't say much on this except, have you seen the OUTRAGE that has met the current VANDALISATION/PROTESTS of the OPC in Lagos!!! I personally know over 50 people who have switched sides simply because of this action!! Big mistake to think the HATED OPC will get GEj any votes. Wait let me laugh again. . grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
u just nail it all guy...I guess barcanista needs 2 go and study SW geo politics more,SW ppl dnt follow party or associations,dey follow ideas n movement wich if u take note APC has package 4 SW ppl n wot is dat movement? CHANGE!! Dat moment Jagaban n APC elders came wit dat single word (CHANGE!) I knew PDP is finish in SW. A word is enough 4 d wise

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by sunayo(m): 5:02pm On Mar 16, 2015
stronger:
Nice attempt.

Few points:

(1) Bola Ige said the Yorubas are about 50 years more educationally advanced than the rest of the country. This plays a part in the level of "awareness" and lack of ignorance. What am I trying to say, The yorubas are SMART and will ask themselves WHO IS THE RIGHT CANDIDATE! So I insist that they will not follow one party like a bunch of sheep led to slaughter. They will think for themselves. So your party analyses falls apart when you assume because Accord, SPD or LP say so. . lol

(2) Unfortunately Ethnicity and "What has he done for us" still plays a part in Nigerian politics. I say "unfortunately" because the choice of a leader should not be about what he did for ME but what he did for us. That said, most Nigerians still feel that way. Bros, go to the streets and feel the pulse. THE YORUBAS feel very SHORTCHANGED by the GEj Admin. You ca take that to the bank!! And they intend to reciprocate in the elections. . which takes me to point (3)

(3) The Osibanjo effect. This is one of the reasons why Amaechi or Oshiomole did not emerge as VP. Of course the main reason is that Tinubu who is the brain behind ACN and the APC merger had to have a "stake". But because they knew they needed a yoruba vote, they made sure the VP is a YORUBA man! You don't seem to consider this in your analyses. The OUR SON effect (Which GEJ is banking on in Rivers/Delta/Bayelsa) is going to work for Osibanjo, at least to an extent.

(4) The last point I will raise is the OPC/AFENIFERE angle! Wait let me laugh. . grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

This is where you ruined your analyses!!!

The influence of OPC?? Afenifere?!!! Bwahahahahaahah!!

In fact, I won't say much on this except, have you seen the OUTRAGE that has met the current VANDALISATION/PROTESTS of the OPC in Lagos!!! I personally know over 50 people who have switched sides simply because of this action!! Big mistake to think the HATED OPC will get GEj any votes. Wait let me laugh again. . grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

The problem with APC supporters is that you guys hate truth because your party thrives on lies and propaganda. Did you just say OPC and Afenifere have no influence in SW? Wait till 28th of March.

Again you said you know 50 people who have switched because of OPC vandalism, what a big lie from you. Well, I also know many people who will never vote anything APC in SW because of their violent and "agberoism" especially in Lagos.

Mind you, I'm Yoruba(Balogun) is my surname. I, my wife, Igbo neighbours, many relatives, many friends, most of my church members are voting GEJ. I reside in Satelite lagos. I agree more with the OP. GEJ will win SW come 28th of March. Enjoy your propaganda, lies and self deciet while it last.

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by MichaelSokoto(m): 5:02pm On Mar 16, 2015
gabriel212:

Please let me tell you
My Dad asked me who am I voting I told him GMB
3 of my brothers are for GMB
In my office except wale 6 of us are voting GMB
At my head office 70% for GMB
I purposely mounted bike last weeks( at Ayobo) and I start discusion the man told me every body is for GMB
This morning I asked the Malam who sell in front of my office who is he going for he said GMB Even if they will shoot him
But that does not mean I have not seen people voting gej but it is ratio 4:1 as far as I have seen

I tell ppl dat I can swear dat I keep comin across igbo men who are dyin to cast their votes 4 Buhari, come rain come shine!

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 5:02pm On Mar 16, 2015
Rilwayne001:


Why is he going from one oba to the other?

It is called consultation and lobbying. These are very important in politics. Didn't Buhari and Osinbajo visit Obas? Obis and Emirs? You people are just funny

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Rilwayne001: 5:03pm On Mar 16, 2015
CaptainAmerica1:


By the way, \your analysis is flawed. Don't be deceived by those yeye endorsements. It's the work of $$$$$$$$

March 28th isn't far

Seriously.

The guy is becoming ridiculous. smh

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by anonimi: 5:04pm On Mar 16, 2015
aresa:
The people he bribed have anounced to Nigerians that he offered them bribe, its all over many newspapers that he is bribing traditonal rulers in the SW and till this very second, he's yet to deny it so what are you talking about?

What stops someone who does not support you from telling LIES about your visit and what you did/ NOT do just to score points against you?

Surely you are wiser than accepting such STORIES except you are also part of the spinners of the propaganda.
Is that your case

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by jaymichael(m): 5:04pm On Mar 16, 2015
barcanista:
There is something called self-deception. The problem with APC is that the party isn't sincere to itself. Your comment is a typical example of self-deception.
Can you bet with your life or destiny that jonathan will win the Southwest?

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by masseratti: 5:04pm On Mar 16, 2015
Why do you guys keep up coming up with threads like this?you will hardly see a thread by APC supporter claiming GMB will win in the southeast, if you guys are so sure GEJ will win southwest don't bother telling us.

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by MichaelSokoto(m): 5:04pm On Mar 16, 2015
barcanista:
Did he tell you that he gave me anything?
Eh, dis ya kweshion eh, bros
I fink I'll af to fone a friend out of my 3 life-lines oo cos eh...
FFk certainly comes to mind grin
No insult meant oo, u knw I be ya paddy cool
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 5:05pm On Mar 16, 2015
. . . . . . . . .Jonathan is favoured in the South west grin grin grin . . . . . .yet he relocated Aso rock there to dash money and beg for votes . . . . . . . .Jonathan himself will laugh at this topic . . . . . . . . .he will be like; this boy thinks I have been giving contracts to ethnic militia warlords because I strong for ground . . . . . . .12 days away, we will show him if he is strong or not angry angry angry

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Rilwayne001: 5:06pm On Mar 16, 2015
barcanista:
It is called consultation and lobbying. These are very important in politics. Didn't Buhari and Osinbajo visit Obas? Obis and Emirs? You people are just funny

Lobbying for what?

his achievement should speak for him.

His he also lobbying in those churches? Why is he even not lobbying around the northern emirs?

Do you think he is not giving millions of naira to this obas?

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by MichaelSokoto(m): 5:07pm On Mar 16, 2015
masseratti:
Why do you guys keep up coming up with threads like this?you will hardly see a thread by APC supporter claiming GMB will win in the southeast, if you guys are so sure GEJ will win southwest don't bother telling us.
I tire oo! angry

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Rilwayne001: 5:07pm On Mar 16, 2015
torkaka:
. . . . . . . . .Jonathan is favoured in the South west grin grin grin . . . . . .yet he relocated Aso rock there to dash money and beg for votes . . . . . . . .Jonathan himself will laugh at this topic . . . . . . . . .he will be like; this boy thinks I have been giving contracts to ethnic militia warlords because I strong for ground . . . . . . .12 days away, we will show him if he is strong or not angry angry angry

Don't mind this hungry mofo jare
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by masseratti: 5:07pm On Mar 16, 2015
sunayo:


The problem with APC supporters is that you guys hate truth because your party thrives on lies and propaganda. Did you just. Say OPC and Afenifere have no influence in SW? Wait till 28th of March.

Again you said you know 50 people who have switched because of OPC vandalism, what a big lie from you. Well, I also know many people who will never vote anything APC in SW because of their voilent and "agberoism" especially in Lagos.

Mind you, I'm Yoruba(Balogun) is my surname. I, my wife, Igbo neighbours, many relaatives, many friends, most of my friends are voting GEJ. I reside in Satelite lagos. I agree more with the OP. GEJ will win SW come 28th of March. Enjoy your propaganda, lies and self deciet while it last.
Ogbeni OPC has no say again,same with Afenifere.go to the market around sw and hear what they say there.

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by SeverusSnape(m): 5:07pm On Mar 16, 2015
Rilwayne001:


You are as f0olish as the OP.

Firstly, the OP is not a southwesterner, he is someone like you who is licking the butt of jonaTAN, I am living in Ibada, Oyo state, and i can tell that his analysis of the Accord party, SDP and Labour party is nothing but fallacy.

Secondly, Labour Party didnt endorse jonaTAN https://www.nairaland.com/2198489/labour-party-those-endorsedjonathan-impostors.

I will implore you to come down here to see for yourselve who the people are mostly talking about here. Judt yesterday night, a friend called me to asked who I will be voting for, this my fruend is a staunch christians and he has decided to vote buhari, he said he has beencallibg his relations and friends to vote buhari and that most of those he had called habe already decidedto vote buhari.

I won't bother engage myaelf with the moronic OP, he is doing the work he is beeen paid for.

March 28 is around the corner, you will surely regain your senses by march30.
Thou kwaran, Must you insult?... I DON'T HAVE THY TIME NOW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PAINED, THIS IS AN IMPECCABLE ANALYSIS AND YOU KNOW IT.
don't be a child of anger like your ilk.

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by dedos(m): 5:09pm On Mar 16, 2015
ozoigbondu:

APC has done a wonderful job in the media.Whoever handles their media team knows his onions and deserves an award but if one takes a look at the reality on ground he will know that APC is seriously shaking in the SW.Fayose bombshell in ekiti is one and i don't believe that fayose won cos of that ekiti gate.Osun state is another one omisore did very well there destroying the myth that APC.GEJ will win in lagos am 100% sure of that.

Fayose hate him or like him is a grassroot politican he will deliever ekiti state to jonathan

and aw many total valid voters are we talking about in Ekiti state in totallity?...d number dat is not even up 2 d number of voters of d smallest state in North.lol

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 5:10pm On Mar 16, 2015
stronger:
Nice attempt.

Few points:

(1) Bola Ige said the Yorubas are about 50 years more educationally advanced than the rest of the country. This plays a part in the level of "awareness" and lack of ignorance. What am I trying to say, The yorubas are SMART and will ask themselves WHO IS THE RIGHT CANDIDATE! So I insist that they will not follow one party like a bunch of sheep led to slaughter. They will think for themselves. So your party analyses falls apart when you assume because Accord, SPD or LP say so. . lol

(2) Unfortunately Ethnicity and "What has he done for us" still plays a part in Nigerian politics. I say "unfortunately" because the choice of a leader should not be about what he did for ME but what he did for us. That said, most Nigerians still feel that way. Bros, go to the streets and feel the pulse. THE YORUBAS feel very SHORTCHANGED by the GEj Admin. You ca take that to the bank!! And they intend to reciprocate in the elections. . which takes me to point (3)

(3) The Osibanjo effect. This is one of the reasons why Amaechi or Oshiomole did not emerge as VP. Of course the main reason is that Tinubu who is the brain behind ACN and the APC merger had to have a "stake". But because they knew they needed a yoruba vote, they made sure the VP is a YORUBA man! You don't seem to consider this in your analyses. The OUR SON effect (Which GEJ is banking on in Rivers/Delta/Bayelsa) is going to work for Osibanjo, at least to an extent.

(4) The last point I will raise is the OPC/AFENIFERE angle! Wait let me laugh. . grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

This is where you ruined your analyses!!!

The influence of OPC?? Afenifere?!!! Bwahahahahaahah!!

In fact, I won't say much on this except, have you seen the OUTRAGE that has met the current VANDALISATION/PROTESTS of the OPC in Lagos!!! I personally know over 50 people who have switched sides simply because of this action!! Big mistake to think the HATED OPC will get GEj any votes. Wait let me laugh again. . grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
You guys keep coming with fables. You have no idea that even in his Ogun state, Mr Osinbajo is a political nonentity talkless of Yoruba nation in its entirety. You talked about the Yorubas being marginalised but you forget that it was the APC that denied Mukinat the Speakership. Yoruba nation is wise. While the Yoruba clamoured for National Conference, the APc kicked against it. In the States, politicians elected on APC platform have left. Yoruba nation knows the trick of APC... No wonder OPC and ors endorsed PDP. Again, I laugh

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by SeverusSnape(m): 5:10pm On Mar 16, 2015
Bayswater:


Yes, most Yorubas on twitter won't vote GEJ. They hate GEJ and support the shange movement.
.....They are mostly twitter warriors.
And nairaland warriors.

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by ozoigbondu: 5:10pm On Mar 16, 2015
dedos:
and aw many total valid voters are we talking about in Ekiti state in totallity?...d number dat is not even up 2 d number of voters of d smallest state in North.lol

Ekiti will contribute to the 19 states required by law for jomathan to win

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by gabriel212: 5:10pm On Mar 16, 2015
aresa:


The people he bribed have anounced to Nigerians that he offered them bribe, its all over many newspapers that he is bribing traditonal rulers in the SW and till this very second, he's yet to deny it so what are you talking about?
my broda HE KNOWS THE TRUTH BUT HE DECIDED TO HIDE IT IN ORDER TO SELL HIS MESSAGES!

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by brownlord: 5:11pm On Mar 16, 2015
jaymichael:
Can you bet with your life or destiny that jonathan will win the Southwest?

Kiddo, why not go get busy with your book as this is way above you.

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by SeverusSnape(m): 5:11pm On Mar 16, 2015
barcanista:
You guys keep coming with fables. You have no idea that even in his Ogun state, Mr Osinbajo is a political nonentity talkless of Yoruba nation in its entirety. You talked about the Yorubas being marginalised but you forget that it was the APC that denied Mukinat the Speakership. Yoruba nation is wise. While the Yoruba clamoured for National Conference, the APc kicked against it. In the States, politicians elected on APC platform have left. Yoruba nation knows the trick of APC... No wonder OPC and ors endorsed PDP. Again, I laugh
Preach barcanista, Preach!!!... Hope Rilwayne001 is reading all these grin

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 5:12pm On Mar 16, 2015
slimmy05:
I can't debate with an empty skull like you. Go get yourself a better job
I didn't tell you to debate with me half-wit! I was only making my contibrutions to this thread. You either ignore or you just ignore!

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by anepete: 5:13pm On Mar 16, 2015
I am from a family of 10 and I am from they north. by the grace of Allah Jonathan will get our block vote. becau he has done for the North what the Northern past president could not do for the North .

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by aresa: 5:14pm On Mar 16, 2015
Ngwakwe:


They are in the majority and by implication they speak for you.

Some crooked and corrupt bribe taking traditional rulers are the majority over PVS carrying tens of millions of Nigerians?

This kind of gainsay, elementary talk and reasoning should be beneath you...

Secondly, they are exhibiting the characteristics of Southwesters which you are a part. - Fact

You obviously have a warped understanding of the people of the SW hence such ill informed and unfortunate comment

You should learn to accommodate political differences, interests and decisions.

Have you looked in the mirror lately and even your own posts in this thread or you are just pulling your own legs?

Most of them have cited the implementation of resolutions of National Conference as the reason for their stance for which would have been different if Buhari and by extension APC gives them the same assurance.


Nigerians have many critical day to day and survival issues against this world famous corrupt and incompetent president and his administration, but whatever conference you are talking about is not one of them and if you have any documented record or even where Nigerians are clamoring for some silly conference, please let us see.


Wonder why sane and intelligent debate is rarity on NL these days...

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Rilwayne001: 5:14pm On Mar 16, 2015
SeverusSnape:

Thou kwaran, Must you insult?... I DON'T HAVE THY TIME NOW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PAINED, THIS IS AN IMPECCABLE ANALYSIS AND YOU KNOW IT.
don't be a child of anger like your ilk.

You and the OP should come down here to see things yourself, don't sit in your land and type shit about ours.

March 28 is around the corner.

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by dein77(m): 5:14pm On Mar 16, 2015
Obviously, in the real scheme of politics, I'm a learner. Following barcanista and everyone keenly.

Most times its safer and faster to learn from the sidelines.

Kudos my Bro, barcanista! Let the comments pour in.

NO insults. No aggression. Just plain mature debates.

Barcanista and his umbrella brand VS the magical broom wavers!

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by dedos(m): 5:15pm On Mar 16, 2015
barcanista:
APC is good at making statement that isn't backed with fact. The party is desperate. If you endorse Jonathan, they will say you have been given millions of dollars. That their blackmail is what will work against them. When you accuse somebody without evidence/fact, you make others to be scared of you. In the SW, the APC may control 4 government houses but they play catchup in 4 states at present.
wich other do dey need 2 present again?..all d ones presents av dey been treated in line wit d constitution of dis country? D #Ekitigate scandal,d $21 billion and on.so wich more facts are u talking about. #Hypocrate

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by gabriel212: 5:15pm On Mar 16, 2015
masseratti:
Why do you guys keep up coming up with threads like this?you will hardly see a thread by APC supporter claiming GMB will win in the southeast, if you guys are so sure GEJ will win southwest don't bother telling us.
Mu broda leave them just upper weeks n they are started announcing the results.
even gej will cry betrayer after he hear the results of the election

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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by brownlord: 5:15pm On Mar 16, 2015
Rilwayne001:


Lobbying for what?

his achievement should speak for him.

His he also lobbying in those churches? Why is he even not lobbying around the northern emirs?

Do you think he is not giving millions of naira to this obas?

Just the way Buhari sat down in daura and wait for his achievement as head of state and PTF chairman to,speak for him right?

Or the way aregbe allowed his achievement to speak for him without going to meet the electorate?

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