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Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Vick4rill(m): 2:02pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
davien:yea dats my point bro |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 2:04pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Vick4rill:whats the purpose of ebola? population control 2 Likes |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by RikoduoSennin(m): 5:37pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Kay17: Wrong. Time and again, God has healed some specific humans. God exists. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 5:44pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:which of the God? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by RikoduoSennin(m): 6:04pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
johnydon22: Well, you take things at face value, good for you. As for me, I read, then I try to figure out why such a thing was said. johnydon22: God's power was not the issue. The issue was about God's right to rule over All intelligent Creature. Illustrate; A Father's right to act as head over his children- a child may choose a way that could cause him harm just like man did, it has nothing to do with how powerful the Father is. johnydon22: The above bold section is false! johnydon22: Yahweh created everything. He said so. He explained how he create everything and they are harmonious with what Science says. johnydon22: Law and order, Cause and Effect, purpose. johnydon22: The Universe is expanding is supported by the Bible- I don't remember the particular scripture now but I will get back to you. The Location of our Solar system in the Milky way galaxy, the type of sun we have, the type of moon we have, the Size/ shape/ tilt /rotation/ elliptical path taken by our planet, the location of our planet in our solar system, Earths Magnetic shield, Water/Oxygen/Nitrogen cycle etc are not by chance but by Design. johnydon22: The Bible is unique and its information has stood the test of time. The other books hasn't eg Which of those other books claim to be inspired by God. 2 Likes |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Kay17: 7:18pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin: Where ARE THEY?! |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 7:22pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:so you dont really mind if the story was false or not and you dont want to... Hhmm very nice RikoduoSennin:lmoa... you were the one that first implied original plan, are you chamging your stance now? here is your post God will eradicate every pestilence with time, because he has the power too and he always keeps his promise. His original plan for human must come to pass.So now its no longer about original plan that didnt work out in the first place, its now father/children relationship huh? lmao... thats a very weak attempt.. RikoduoSennin:lmao its false? thats why we have contradicting events in the gospels, even the so called gospels were not written by the people they bear their names, thats why we have tens of other gnostic gospels that didnt make it into the bible because of heavy contradictions and plagiarisms of other materials. . lol.. very false indeed. i can see.. RikoduoSennin:hahahhahaha he explained everything harmoniously with what science says like creating day and night and then creating the sun that supposed to be responsible for day and night four days later? chisoooooos this is too funny.. Are you aware that yahweh is a very young jewish deity they probably copied from the canaanite pentheon.. Gods like Mesopotamian Ea, Canaanite El, Egyptian Dieties, thousands of them predates yahweh by thousands of years and all claim to have created the universe.. Like the creation story you read in genesis that made you claim yahweh did it is actuall copied from the mesopotamian creation story that attributed the creation to the God 'Ea' . . . lol. So you see the same way you believe yahweh did it, every other culture and religion believe their own God did it.. so which of them actually did.. RikoduoSennin:Yes like galaxies colliding into each other, asteoids crashing into planets...incase you dont know . Our galaxy the milky way galaxy is actually on a collision course with the great andromeda galaxy.. Science 101. RikoduoSennin:What ..Lion !!! waiting for bible verse..Goodluck with that! RikoduoSennin:You dont know much about the bible i can clearly see.. A book that contains jewish mythological history some copied from older civilizations in almost half of all its pages was inspired by your god? Your god really did a very poor job with that poorly rendered, contradiction riddled jewish fiction. The same way you claim this the muslims also claim their god inspired theirs but you probably dont believe this huh... irony? **sighs** actually many more religious books claim god inspired let me give you examples. Book of Mormon , Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants for mormons. Guru Granth Sahib and the Dasam Granth Sahib for sihks quran and hadiths for muslims. talmud for jews.( not in the christian bible cus their messiah characteristics contradicts the one christianity came up with ) Shruti for hindhus... clearly you have no knowledge of religions, next time dont argue over what you dont fully grasp |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Vick4rill(m): 9:28pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
johnydon22:if u read my quote very well u will understand that what am insinuating is that God alone knows the reason why things happend? I dont believe things happend with out reason |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:48pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Vick4rill:.. That reason is so so flawed.. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by RikoduoSennin(m): 8:31am On Mar 25, 2015 |
johnydon22: The above is Just your OPINION, the OPINION of One man. Since Opinion are not FACTS, I decide to let them go. Its pointless to reason with someone who can't figure what our common ground is, not to mention the fact that you don't really get the idea of my post- I say one thing, you say another just to express your own idea. When you think you know it all, or know more than others (Full cup) then how would you listen to what others have to tell/teach you or even let them Explain themselves clearly. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:12am On Mar 25, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:nope not my opinion, why not point out the non-facts and we will delve and research about them to see if they are really facts.. We are discussing here no dodging. RikoduoSennin:I only addressed your posts in a more realistic view.. refute any of them if you can. RikoduoSennin:I do not claim to know it all and as far as i can recall i have never mentioned to know it all in all my posts.. so address the post, let us delve in more with full research and scrutinization |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Joshthefirst(m): 7:18am On Mar 27, 2015 |
plaetton:I'm Sorry. I've been very busy for some time now. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Joshthefirst(m): 7:22am On Mar 27, 2015 |
plaetton:Kay17 is right, God is responsible for all life. But the bi me says life has been corrupted because of imperfection and sin. God didn't create killers or pathogens. He created everything good. But under the original failure of mans management creation has been corrupted. I'm very sure this answers your question completely. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Joshthefirst(m): 7:24am On Mar 27, 2015 |
Kay17:I am one. A livinwitness of the healing power of God. But of course you don't believe me. 1 Like |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 7:40am On Mar 27, 2015 |
Joshthefirst:Nope this answer is very contradicting.. first you stated he created all life in the bolded and all life surely must include plasmodium.. then you turn around and say he didn't created killers or pathogens as in the second bolded (after saying he created everything)… Why not just say once and for all, did he create everything (including the bad things).or did he not create everything.. Stop going in contradicting circles.. 1 Like |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Joshthefirst(m): 7:55am On Mar 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:Or maybe you can choose to be reasonable and quietly read and understand my post. I'm not going to start explaining sentences to you again. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 8:13am On Mar 27, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: It's very simple, i showed you how you post didn't make sense.. you were eating your cake and having it. . . If you can't explain it simple, you dont understand it well enough Albert Einstein |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 8:35am On Mar 27, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: God doesn't make mistakes, he created all things for a purpose...even the wicked for the day of evil! This is what most Christians don't understand! This here is the LORD's game, we are but players in it! Proverbs 16:4 The LORD has created everything for His purpose; yea, even the wicked for the day of disaster. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. ^^^ God created everything good because everything he created has a purpose..... Romans 9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” ^^^ Now take a look at what GOD said about the stubborn Pharaoh that kept the children of Israel in captivity..... johnydon22: |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 8:52am On Mar 27, 2015 |
doubleDx:So the pharaoh was just a pawn is god's chess games.. right? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 8:56am On Mar 27, 2015 |
johnydon22: LOL before nko? You too na pawn nah; all the blasphemies wey you dey spew here na prophecies you dey fulfill so 2 Peter 3:3-4 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts. And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:05am On Mar 27, 2015 |
doubleDx:Lolzzz. . . and this one enters with his own wishful thinkin absurdity.. Just like you a pawn in allah's chess game, a pawn in amadioha's chess game, a pawn in krishna's chess game not only yahweh.. their are more than 5,000 gods.. Hahahahahahaha. . People shaaa.. SMH.. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:06am On Mar 27, 2015 |
doubleDx:who wrote this book of peter you just quoted? lets see if he even know |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 9:16am On Mar 27, 2015 |
johnydon22: Yes, there are gods...even humans are gods too...that's why the Bible says => "Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the Most High" -- Psalm 82:6 The GOD of gods is Yahweh; the Most High...King that is above all Kings! There was no god formed before Him and there will be none after Him.... He is the head over all principalities and powers; in heaven, on earth and beneath, in this world and in that which is to come! Stay put in your delusion of disbelief...you are only fulfilling end time prophecies! Scoff on heathen! |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:22am On Mar 27, 2015 |
doubleDx:Lmoa yahweh is a very young jewish deity. . Mesopotamian Supreme God Ea predates it by thousands of years, Canaanite supreme God El (from whence yahweh was copied) predates it by thousands of years. . http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh. Yahweh ( / ˈj ɑːhw eɪ/ , or often / ˈjɑːw eɪ/ in English; Hebrew : יהוה ), was the national god of Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) and Judah . [2][Notes 1] Yahweh and his worship appear to have been unique to Israel and Judah: [3] his origins are debated but there is widespread acceptance that he did not originate with Israel; [4] his name may have begun as an epithet of El, head of the Bronze Age Canaanite pantheon, [5] but the earliest plausible references to it place him among the nomads of the southern Transjordan. now go and read the link to see more The same way you believe your jewish fairy tale (even though you are an african..lol) is the same way muslims believe that allah is the supreme God, Hindus believe it is Krishna, and many other cultures and people.. So its just your conviction boy 1 Like |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 9:33am On Mar 27, 2015 |
johnydon22: Trash! I don't expect a carnal minded heathen like you to understand the things of the spirit of GOD! That strong delusion of disbelief is all over your face...you can't see clearly with all that boy! This is what is happening to you right now; I don't think there is anything I can say or do to help you....stay put in your delusion You are being kept there for judgement => 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:36am On Mar 27, 2015 |
doubleDx: lol ok oo spiritual minded man **Uuuhm seems the definition of delusion changed few minutes ago and i didn't get the memo ..** alright we are done boss 1 Like |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 9:40am On Mar 27, 2015 |
johnydon22: It's what it is...when you are spiritually dead, the word of the LORD will never make any sense to you! 1 Corinthians 2:14 Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Like |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Kay17: 12:29pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: But Adam allegedly ate a fruit from the tree of knowledge, how does the eating of the fruit directly result into a DNA mutation/alteration in animals? This I believe, is the missing link. The action of eating the fruit was the SIN, how does the SIN then spread to the DNA of other animals? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Kay17: 12:30pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
doubleDx: You on the other hand, don't think Adam is responsible for the pathogens and viruses, right? What is the purpose of pathogens? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 6:22am On Mar 28, 2015 |
Kay17: The LORD created all things for His purpose; pestilence, pathogens, parasites, plagues, starvation, wars, peace, etc...all these things are meant for discipline and correction! How do you think God would have achieved his purpose and showed his power in plaguing the Egyptians for refusing to let his people go if he hadn't created the plagues/diseases he used against them in the first place? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 8:34am On Mar 28, 2015 |
doubleDx:And to that I say Exodus 9:12 "And the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses." |
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