₦airaland Forum

Mynd44:
He did raise some valid points for arguement in terms of population and land mass bro. Lets ignore ethnicity and see thibgs from his point of view

Atouke:
what has land mass and Population got to do with state creation? whats the population and land mass of Rhode island compared to the population Of texas?
Whats the population and land mass of Delaware compared to that of California?
Bringing it back home whats the population and land mass of Ekiti or Bayelsa compared to Lagos or Oyo?
The two are diametrically opposed,

States in Nigeria are created based on Geopolitical zones All other zones have 6 or more states Except the South East, That's an imbalance that needs to be corrected as it affects the political well being and milieu of the SE in terms of u representation as they have less ministerial Appointment, Less house of representative members, less Senators, Less federal Allocation etc compared to geopolitical zones with 6 or more states.

Kwankwaso as usual is reasoning like a true "born to rule" imperialist that believes that the South of the country is supposed to be enslaved by the North with no Rights at all, But too bad for him Nigeria of today is not the Nigeria of the 70's, 80's or 90's where the "born to rule" did as they pleased with no one to challenge them. Kwankwaso and his fellow born to rule should wake up and smell the coffee, we are in a New Nigeria where the reasoning and Attitudes of the past is best left in the past.

Going forward every Nigerian must be treated with respect, equity and justice irrespective of where they come from, The Enjoyment of majority status in the Nigerian congress by the NW where Kwankwaso is from is sweet for him, Having and equal strength in the SE will be justice granted, for what is good for the Goose is equally good for the Gander!
Long live Nigeria
Long live GEJ
Viva the new SE state!

Mynd44:
How does creating a new state in the SE solve issues in the SE?

You just mentioned that Imo and Anambra are densely populated, does a new state change the fact that that geograhical location is densely populated? Does it solve the problems associated with a high populated density?

We should look for solution to our problems not fight over who has the bigger dick

barcanista:
Now you resort to insult...."Typical APC"

barcanista:
A very beautiful virgin for that matter!!!!

poundlander:
let's try to be objective in our arguments. Kwankwazo clearly raised a lot of salient points, even if you choose to disagree.
he analysed that the south south and south east jointly have a population of 37 million plus, while the north west alone has a population of over 35 million. The SS & SE have 11 Govs, 33 senators and 66 Reps representing the over 37 million people while the NW have 7 Govs, 21 senators ànd 42 Reps representing them. MATHEMATICALLY, LOGICALLY, PROPORTIONALLY WHO REALLY NEED MORE STATE
You confessed that Lagos and Oyo also have larger population, yet they are not complaining. Isn't it quite ironical that those that have more representatives and states with far less population compared to others are the one complaining. I think they are really asking for too much. Kwankwanso wasn't agitating for state creation, but only stated that if additional states are to be created, his region should be considered first based on EQUALITY.
please note that I clearly stick to the issue raised, I will appreciate if my character is not assassinated just the way you did to Kwankwanso while reacting to his opinion.
long live Nigeria

Mynd44:
He did raise some valid points for arguement in terms of population and land mass bro. Lets ignore ethnicity and see thibgs from his point of view

sherryshitt:
Reasons To Vote For Goodluck Jonathan this Saturday.

1. After been sworn on the 29th May, 2011. GEJ gave Nigerians the best New year gift ever in the history of Nigeria on the 1st of Jan 2012 by increasing fuel price to N150/liter

2. GEJ provided 3000 jobs thru d immigration service dt 700,000 Nigerian youths applied for. D process dt killed our youths, no exam took place, no 1 got d job. No probing, Query or sacking. Immigration made over 700million! Unemployed youths scammed by their own government.

3. Stella Odua former aviation minister bought 4 bullet proof BMW cars at 250million each using aviation money. Calculate the total Subsidy money $20billion frm d National treasury missin. GEJ said stealing is nt corruption but u're still struggling to pay 1k 4 u monthly BIS.

4. Boko Haram has killed over 30,000 Nigerians. Kidnapped innocent girls & boys frm Government schs. GEJ said dy r our brothers & decided to go afta dm after postponing elections. Well Boko Haram has kidnapped 400 women yesterday. U tot dy chased dm out of naija abi? Don't worry GEJ will chase dm out wen u elect him again & wait till dy cme to Rivers & Lagos state.

5. Nigeria has the best economy in Africa. GEJ & Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala are working o! But Naira has no value in Naija and outside Naija. Somebody is givin us zobo cos d best economy shd av greatest currency value in Africa. Vote GEJ again & he will make sure dt $1=N250 so dt our uncles & aunts abroad can send us money.

6. GEJ postponed election & reduced fuel price frm N97/liter to N87 but y are dy selling fuel to us @ N120/liter. The dream of GEJ is to take it to N150/liter as he planned in 2012. Transformation Agenda my pple!

7. Vote GEJ because u wnt God to run ur life & the lives of ur children the way GEJ & his pple r running Nigeria. A good speech is enough for the wise

GMB 2015

poundlander:
let's try to be objective in our arguments. Kwankwazo clearly raised a lot of salient points, even if you choose to disagree.
he analysed that the south south and south east jointly have a population of 37 million plus, while the north west alone has a population of over 35 million. The SS & SE have 11 Govs, 33 senators and 66 Reps representing the over 37 million people while the NW have 7 Govs, 21 senators ànd 42 Reps representing them. MATHEMATICALLY, LOGICALLY, PROPORTIONALLY WHO REALLY NEED MORE STATE
You confessed that Lagos and Oyo also have larger population, yet they are not complaining. Isn't it quite ironical that those that have more representatives and states with far less population compared to others are the one complaining. I think they are really asking for too much. Kwankwanso wasn't agitating for state creation, but only stated that if additional states are to be created, his region should be considered first based on EQUALITY.
please note that I clearly stick to the issue raised, I will appreciate if my character is not assassinated just the way you did to Kwankwanso while reacting to his opinion.
long live Nigeria

Atouke:
Since you stressed mathematics, logic and proportion as the bases of the "Almajiri logic" that you and your hero Kwankwaso are espousing , you missed the major point of my argument which is that in Nigeria States were not created based on population or land mass, If these were to be the yardstick then lagos with the population of about 20 million people should be divided into about 5 states of 4 million population apiece which is about the average population of Nigerian states.and if land mass was the yardstick then Brono and Niger should have about 8 to 10 state apiece since they are about 8 to 10 times the size of lagos.

My point is that States in Nigeria were created on the bases of geopolitical balance and in that regards barring any injustice or inequity, the South East as a matter of urgent National Interest and unity deserve an additional state to bring their regional quota to 6 states which is the national Average per region.

If Equity and proportion were the major motivation for Kwankwaso flawed logic:
1).why hasn't he decry the inequity of Kano having 44 LGA with a lesser population than lagos which has higher population but fewer LGA's?
2).Why hasn't he decry the injustice of Kano Alone having more LGA than almost all the SE States put together, which end up attracting more federal funding to Kano state on the bases of it LGA size in the detriment of state like Lagos and the whole SE.
3)Why hasn't Kwankwaso Decry the injustice of the SS having to support and carry the weight of the North and other unviable states and regions in this country?

If indeed the likes of Kwankwaso were facing the injustice of contributing the revenue and the resources that funds Nigeria like the South currently does, Needless to say there will be no Nigeria today, and thats a fact!

naijaracist:
The Northerners have kicked against the plan by the federal government to amend the 1999 constitution by creating another new state from the South East region. Speaking in Abuja, the Executive governor of Kano State, Rabiu Kwankwanso accused the Deputy Senate President, Ike Ekweremadu who is also the Chairman of the Constitutional Review Committee for his using his office to lobby for another state for his region without considering other regions, particularly the North. He noted that in Nigeria, the population of Kano state in the north is more than three states in the South East, and it won’t be justified to have a state created out of the Southeast. Kwankwanso said“In this course, the northern states, particularly the Kano State deserves one or two additional states. Not only this, just only the North West claimed about 35,786,944, while Sout-East and South South in addition is 37,396,384, please among all these regions, who should be considered for another new state?

“As far as we are concerned, if we have to go for constitution amendment, all issues should be on the table. We do not want a situation where state creation would be a matter of yes or man-know- man or I have this or I have that.

“Kano has 44 local governments because we are over 9.4million population by the last census and we have the landmass. Now if you want to change things, let us come up with criteria, don’t just do it under the table on the pretence that they have five states in the South-East.

“They (the South-East) should not have five in my opinion. What is the population of the South-East?

“I am saying this with all sense of responsibility; I am not playing any regional or ethnic politics. But you see, I am representing a state now. I will not allow anybody to go and make nonsense of what we have. If you want to create your state, go and create, do not call Kano anyhow.

The Governor charged all the northerner representatives in the National Assemblies to rise against the plot and call for equal share if there is a need for the amendment of the 1999 constitution.

“That is why I want to advise our own people to be more careful. They should not go to the National Assembly and do something else. You are on paper representing us and you go there and you are voting for others. “I want to challenge our members (from the North) to stand up. That is why I will support Northern governors to empower Arewa House, where they keep history, to go and put table in the gallery of the House of Representatives and in the gallery of the Senate. Any member of the House of Reps or Senate who is voting for any position should be recorded, his father, his constituency should be recorded.”


SOURCE:http://dailypost.ng/2015/03/22/it-northerners-deserve-another-state-south-east-kano-state-governor/?wt=2

Mynd44:
Now I am a "Northerner"?

Damn! My place of Origin is really confusing to me ooo.

First I am from the SE, then SW, then someone said I am from Delta and now the North?

At least federal character is reflecting in my actions....

Mynd44:
The biggest problem here is that we don't want to look at issues from another person's views.

While the SE might argue eqity in number of states and population which is not so important as creating a new state does not increase the land mass, they should argue more in line of increased allocation due to population density so as to combact problems relating to a high population to land mass ratio.

ziccoit:
No wonder people are doubting Mr GEJ PhD certificate. He behaves most of the time like an imb.ecile. He is too divisive and bigotry. Must he always talk? He shouldn't have said SE would be the first region to be considered for state creation. It is a political blunder. The guy just not fit to be a leader. I have never seen a leader who is this dull. Chai!

naijaracist:
The Northerners have kicked against the plan by the federal government to amend the 1999 constitution by creating another new state from the South East region. Speaking in Abuja, the Executive governor of Kano State, Rabiu Kwankwanso accused the Deputy Senate President, Ike Ekweremadu who is also the Chairman of the Constitutional Review Committee for his using his office to lobby for another state for his region without considering other regions, particularly the North. He noted that in Nigeria, the population of Kano state in the north is more than three states in the South East, and it won’t be justified to have a state created out of the Southeast. Kwankwanso said“In this course, the northern states, particularly the Kano State deserves one or two additional states. Not only this, just only the North West claimed about 35,786,944, while Sout-East and South South in addition is 37,396,384, please among all these regions, who should be considered for another new state?

“As far as we are concerned, if we have to go for constitution amendment, all issues should be on the table. We do not want a situation where state creation would be a matter of yes or man-know- man or I have this or I have that.

“Kano has 44 local governments because we are over 9.4million population by the last census and we have the landmass. Now if you want to change things, let us come up with criteria, don’t just do it under the table on the pretence that they have five states in the South-East.

“They (the South-East) should not have five in my opinion. What is the population of the South-East?

“I am saying this with all sense of responsibility; I am not playing any regional or ethnic politics. But you see, I am representing a state now. I will not allow anybody to go and make nonsense of what we have. If you want to create your state, go and create, do not call Kano anyhow.

The Governor charged all the northerner representatives in the National Assemblies to rise against the plot and call for equal share if there is a need for the amendment of the 1999 constitution.

“That is why I want to advise our own people to be more careful. They should not go to the National Assembly and do something else. You are on paper representing us and you go there and you are voting for others. “I want to challenge our members (from the North) to stand up. That is why I will support Northern governors to empower Arewa House, where they keep history, to go and put table in the gallery of the House of Representatives and in the gallery of the Senate. Any member of the House of Reps or Senate who is voting for any position should be recorded, his father, his constituency should be recorded.”


SOURCE:http://dailypost.ng/2015/03/22/it-northerners-deserve-another-state-south-east-kano-state-governor/?wt=2

ahaz:
you and kwankwaso re d bigest idiot in d world.nw has 7 states can u tel us d criteria 4 givng dm 7 nd d rest 6 nd 5...may God purnish all u igbo haters...gej til kwankwaso get sense.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
So when it suits them, they talk about merit but when it doesn't they resort to quota system and talk of fairness and equity?
Why don't we put the same logic into the federal civil service, let the most educated and the most qualified be given the jobs, nothing like quota system or fairness. How about allocation of resources? How much do northern states contribute to the federal purse and how much do they collect?
Use your brain.

Osakah24:
700 million youths indeed.

sherryshitt:
obviously u be E-mumu, why u no shine ur eyes see say na 700,000...