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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by MugabeRobert: 11:32pm On Apr 10, 2015
The ibos are now crying blue murder cos the yorubas decided to stop defending and start attacking. Well you ain't seen nothing yet, don't expect flowers in return after calling a region that accepted you a no man's land.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by MizMyColi(f): 11:37pm On Apr 10, 2015
MugabeRobert:
The ibos are now crying blue murder cos the yorubas decided to stop defending and start attacking. Well you ain't seen nothing yet, don't expect flowers in return after calling a region that accepted you a no man's land.


Yinmurantus....

Continue.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by drajjay: 11:38pm On Apr 10, 2015
Well written my heroine. by the way why is not on front page yet.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by MugabeRobert: 11:38pm On Apr 10, 2015
The Oba has spoken and this voice are in clear terms. If you can't take it, just move back to your village and stop causing nuisance.

Finally, am proud someone is standing up against these arrogant and loudmouthed bullies.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Godwin10123: 11:39pm On Apr 10, 2015
God will bless u my sister. The Write up is for well meaning Nigerians iirespective of your tribe. Let's embrace one Nigeria or break the damn tin

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Godwin10123: 11:41pm On Apr 10, 2015
MugabeRobert:
The ibos are now crying blue murder cos the yorubas decided to stop defending and start attacking. Well you ain't seen nothing yet, don't expect flowers in return after calling a region that accepted you a no man's land.

Obviously u have a problem!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by VirginFinder: 11:42pm On Apr 10, 2015
illiad:
You're a gift from God to Ndigbo. Just as Ndigbo are a gift from God to Nigerians.

The only irony being that while Ndigbo love you Chimamanda, nigerians hate Ndigbo.

And the result of their hate is that Ndigbo kept moving from height to height.

Who would have imagined that after what we went through during the civil war ndigbo would come to be the tribe with the highest GDP per person and the north still remains the poorest region.

Let them continue to hate

Most ibo Nairalanders are semi-literate just like you.
I cant fathom why.
It's 'curse' not 'course'.

@OP ibos should stick to their business and stay out of our local politics.
Any attempt to dabble into it will spell doom as we can all see.
That's all!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Ozioma49(m): 11:42pm On Apr 10, 2015
MizMyColi:


Yinmurantus....

Continue.
Nne why waste your time with a troll

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by MugabeRobert: 11:46pm On Apr 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


Most ibo Nairalanders are semi-literate just like you.
I cant fathom why.
It's 'curse' not 'course'.

@OP ibos should stick to their business and stay out of our local politics.
Any attempt to dabble into it will spell doom as we can all see.
That's all!

Are you minding the ungrateful parasites? We gave peace and they paid us back with constant abuse of our traditional values. Can they try half of what they are doing in southwest in the north? Heck, can they insult Emir of Kano the way they did to Kabiyesi?

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by luvmijeje(f): 11:48pm On Apr 10, 2015
There have been condemnations of the Oba’s words. Sadly, many of the condemnations from non-Igbo people have come with the ugly impatience of expressions like ‘move on,’ and ‘don’t be over-emotional’ and ‘calm down.’ These take away the power, even the sincerity, of the condemnations. It is highhanded and offensive to tell an aggrieved person how to feel, or how quickly to forgive, just as an apology becomes a non-apology when it comes with ‘now get over it.’
Other condemnations of the Oba’s words have been couched in dismissive or diminishing language such as ‘The Oba can’t really do anything, he isn’t actually going to kill anyone. He was joking. He was just being a loudmouth.’

The next thing for the Yorubas to do in order satisfy the Igbos is to cut the Oba's head.... We don't have the right to tell you how to respond, you also don't have the right to tell us how to respond to your response
Any group of people would understandably be troubled by a threat such as the Oba’s, but the Igbo, because of their history in Nigeria, have been particularly troubled. And it is a recent history. There are people alive today who were publicly attacked in cosmopolitan Lagos in the 1960s because they were Igbo. Even people who were merely light-skinned were at risk of violence in Lagos markets, because to be light-skinned was to be mistaken for Igbo.

Revisionist at work...... Why were they attacked? That's how hatred for a tribe is passed from one generation to another.
When Igbo people are urged to be ‘grateful’ for being in Lagos, do they somehow have less of a right as citizens to live where they live? Every Nigerian should be able to live in any part of Nigeria. The only expectation for a Nigerian citizen living in any part of Nigeria is to be law-abiding.

Agreed...... But you don't insult a tribe by re-writing their history through saying Lagos is no man's land. By the way, where were you during the last Anambra election? How come you didn't write all this long epistle to condemn Obi and Nzeribe for their politics of hatred?

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by MizMyColi(f): 11:50pm On Apr 10, 2015
Ozioma49:

Nne why waste your time with a troll

oops!
My bad....

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Cwaya(m): 11:55pm On Apr 10, 2015


cool cool cool cool cool cool




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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Cwaya(m): 12:00am On Apr 11, 2015
luvmijeje:


The next thing for the Yorubas to do in order satisfy the Igbos is to cut the Oba's head.... We don't have the right to tell you how to respond, you also don't have the right to tell us how to respond to your response

Revisionist at work...... Why were they attacked? That's how hatred for a tribe is passed from one generation to another.


Agreed...... But you don't insult a tribe by re-writing their history through saying Lagos is no man's land. By the way, where were you during the last Anambra election? How come you didn't write all this long epistle to condemn Obi and Nzeribe for their politics of hatred?


Hello, its bed time..
Goto bed kid !!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by ibedun: 12:02am On Apr 11, 2015
Ymodulus:
I think I will start by trying to be Anthropomorphic, as it will bet express my heading.
Its really sad when insanity realizes that he has a mental disorder then he is as good as cured.
The moment a people come to terms with their complex problem which often place them at loggerheads with their host communities the better for them.

I seem not to fathom how a tribe claim to have suffered humiliations and deprivation from other ethnic nationalities. This allegation should be consider very weighty even though it was not substantiated. Nonetheless, this aggrieved ethnic nationality needs to ask herself what is about it that could be responsible for the purported hostile acts of other ethnic nationalities toward it.

Thank you for this apt reply. Igbo people need careful introspection. The whole Igbo nation wants to move to Lagos and not expect strong resistance from the owners of the land.

Biased nonsense, the only solution is for the Igbos to pull together and go develop their land.


One problem I have with Chimanda is all her articles tends to quote Chinua Achebe, even when its evident chinua actions are wrong. The sane mistake she made, about his book "there was a country". Now she is trying to say that the Igbo's were murdered in early 1960's for political reasons? Who started the war? Was it the Nigerian Arny or The late Ojukwu ? I see Chimabda is biased. And she is just a staunt re-echoer of Chinua Achebe's belief.


I liked the fact that she related the massacre of the Ibos in different parts of the country before the civil war. However what I do like to ask her is this,

1. chimanda was there nothing that led to the massacre?

You can't dent that the tendency to dominate in another man's land which is being exhibited now by taking the Oba to court is what led to such. Tell me when you come back from court if the people of Lagos will still have a good relationship with the Ibos.



Chimanda while trying to play a neutral ground at the surface, is been biased deep down. I rest my case

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by kettykin: 12:02am On Apr 11, 2015
The highly respected oba a former law keeper and a law enforcer has now become a notoriously dangerous law breaker

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by chumakk: 12:04am On Apr 11, 2015
They born you well Ada

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by OreMI22: 12:04am On Apr 11, 2015
ControlX:
A few days ago, the Oba of Lagos threatened Igbo leaders. If they did not vote for his governorship candidate in Lagos, he said, they would be thrown into the lagoon. His entire speech was a flagrant performance of disregard. His words said, in effect: I think so little of you that I don’t have to cajole you but will just threaten you and, by the way, your safety in Lagos is not assured, it is negotiable.
There have been condemnations of the Oba’s words. Sadly, many of the condemnations from non-Igbo people have come with the ugly impatience of expressions like ‘move on,’ and ‘don’t be over-emotional’ and ‘calm down.’ These take away the power, even the sincerity, of the condemnations. It is highhanded and offensive to tell an aggrieved person how to feel, or how quickly to forgive, just as an apology becomes a non-apology when it comes with ‘now get over it.’
Other condemnations of the Oba’s words have been couched in dismissive or diminishing language such as ‘The Oba can’t really do anything, he isn’t actually going to kill anyone. He was joking. He was just being a loudmouth.’
Or – the basest yet – ‘we are all prejudiced.’ It is dishonest to respond to a specific act of prejudice by ignoring that act and instead stressing the generic and the general. It is similar to responding to a specific crime by saying ‘we are all capable of crime.’ Indeed we are. But responses such as these are diversionary tactics. They dismiss the specific act, diminish its importance, and ultimately aim at silencing the legitimate fears of people.
We are indeed all prejudiced, but that is not an appropriate response to an issue this serious. The Oba is not an ordinary citizen. He is a traditional ruler in a part of a country where traditional rulers command considerable influence – the reluctance on the part of many to directly chastise the Oba speaks to his power. The Oba’s words matter. He is not a singular voice; he represents traditional authority. The Oba’s words matter because they are enough to incite violence in a political setting already fraught with uncertainty. The Oba’s words matter even more in the event that Ambode loses the governorship election, because it would then be easy to scapegoat Igbo people and hold them punishable.
Nigerians who consider themselves enlightened might dismiss the Oba’s words as illogical. But the scapegoating of groups – which has a long history all over the world – has never been about logic. The Oba’s words matter because they bring worrying echoes of the early 1960s in Nigeria, when Igbo people were scapegoated for political reasons. Chinua Achebe, when he finally accepted that Lagos, the city he called home, was unsafe for him because he was Igbo, saw crowds at the motor park taunting Igbo people as they boarded buses: ‘Go, Igbo, go so that garri will be cheaper in Lagos!’
Of course Igbo people were not responsible for the cost of garri. But they were perceived as people who were responsible for a coup and who were ‘taking over’ and who, consequently, could be held responsible for everything bad.
Any group of people would understandably be troubled by a threat such as the Oba’s, but the Igbo, because of their history in Nigeria, have been particularly troubled. And it is a recent history. There are people alive today who were publicly attacked in cosmopolitan Lagos in the 1960s because they were Igbo. Even people who were merely light-skinned were at risk of violence in Lagos markets, because to be light-skinned was to be mistaken for Igbo.
Almost every Nigerian ethnic group has a grouse of some sort with the Nigerian state. The Nigerian state has, by turns, been violent, unfair, neglectful, of different parts of the country. Almost every ethnic group has derogatory stereotypes attached to it by other ethnic groups.
But it is disingenuous to suggest that the experience of every ethnic group has been the same. Anti-Igbo violence began under the British colonial government, with complex roots and manifestations. But the end result is a certain psychic difference in the relationship of Igbo people to the Nigerian state. To be Igbo in Nigeria is constantly to be suspect; your national patriotism is never taken as the norm, you are continually expected to prove it.
All groups are conditioned by their specific histories. Perhaps another ethnic group would have reacted with less concern to the Oba’s threat, because that ethnic group would not be conditioned by a history of being targets of violence, as the Igbo have been.
Many responses to the Oba’s threat have mentioned the ‘welcoming’ nature of Lagos, and have made comparisons between Lagos and southeastern towns like Onitsha. It is valid to debate the ethnic diversity of different parts of Nigeria, to compare, for example, Ibadan and Enugu, Ado-Ekiti and Aba, and to debate who moves where, and who feels comfortable living where and why that is. But it is odd to pretend that Lagos is like any other city in Nigeria. It is not. The political history of Lagos and its development as the first national capital set it apart. Lagos is Nigeria’s metropolis. There are ethnic Igbo people whose entire lives have been spent in Lagos, who have little or no ties to the southeast, who speak Yoruba better than Igbo. Should they, too, be reminded to be ‘grateful’ each time an election draws near?
No law-abiding Nigerian should be expected to show gratitude for living peacefully in any part of Nigeria. Landlords in Lagos should not, as still happens too often, be able to refuse to rent their property to Igbo people.
The Oba’s words were disturbing, but its context is even more disturbing:
The anti-Igbo rhetoric that has been part of the political discourse since the presidential election results. Accusatory and derogatory language – using words like ‘brainwashed,’ ‘tribalistic voting’ – has been used to describe President Jonathan’s overwhelming win in the southeast. All democracies have regions that vote in large numbers for one side, and even though parts of Northern Nigeria showed voting patterns similar to the Southeast, the opprobrium has been reserved for the Southeast.
But the rhetoric is about more than mere voting. It is really about citizenship. To be so entitled as to question the legitimacy of a people’s choice in a democratic election is not only a sign of disrespect but is also a questioning of the full citizenship of those people.
What does it mean to be a Nigerian citizen?
When Igbo people are urged to be ‘grateful’ for being in Lagos, do they somehow have less of a right as citizens to live where they live? Every Nigerian should be able to live in any part of Nigeria. The only expectation for a Nigerian citizen living in any part of Nigeria is to be law-abiding. Not to be ‘grateful.’ Not to be expected to pay back some sort of unspoken favour by toeing a particular political line. Nigerian citizens can vote for whomever they choose, and should never be expected to justify or apologize for their choice.
Only by feeling a collective sense of ownership of Nigeria can we start to forge a nation. A nation is an idea. Nigeria is still in progress. To make this a nation, we must collectively agree on what citizenship means: all Nigerians must matter equally.

Source:
www.olisa.tv/2015/04/10/chimamanda-adichieoba-lagos/

[size=13pt]My concern with the Igbo youths of today is they are too nice or too naive.

If Yoruba threatens violence, they should not only secretly prepare to inflict heavy casualty on anyone who dares to attack them in Lagos, but should also quietly track where Yorubas live in Enugu,Onitsha,Asaba,Port Harcourt or Aba and simply keep quiet and wait for action time.

Since they started the principle of reciprocity against northerners in the south for every riot in the north, anti- Igbo riots in the north have become rarer.
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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by omenalfa: 12:05am On Apr 11, 2015
See naive woman still thinking that Igbos will ever be accepted as equals in a biased Nigeria that have been programmed to cheat them

We don't want equality anymore because the hand we have been dealt with was very wicked, We will progress on our own even inside Nigeria and our enemies will see what we will become and they shall bow at our feet

Proud Igbo

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by omenalfa: 12:07am On Apr 11, 2015
MugabeRobert:
The ibos are now crying blue murder cos the yorubas decided to stop defending and start attacking. Well you ain't seen nothing yet, don't expect flowers in return after calling a region that accepted you a no man's land.


Ewu, where is your attack?

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Ojiofor: 12:07am On Apr 11, 2015
MugabeRobert:


Are you minding the ungrateful parasites? We gave peace and they paid us back with constant abuse of our traditional values. Can they try half of what they are doing in southwest in the north? Heck, can they insult Emir of Kano the way they did to Kabiyesi?


sharap dia my friend.your oba should go and learn how to be a good royal father.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by omenalfa: 12:18am On Apr 11, 2015
but this oba foolish pass a she-goat

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Nobody: 12:19am On Apr 11, 2015
When you ibos get tired of ranting and whining then you wwould sto and face your illegal businesses both in Nigeria and abroad.

The ibos are a conqquered people and they should deal with it!

Next!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by cupidhero(m): 12:21am On Apr 11, 2015
What a waste!! She should have used her time and wisdom wisely instead of writing about situations in nigeria. We all know what the future holds for nigeria and I pray every tribal mofo in nairaland will witness the whole ish. That oba is jewman sha.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by ibedun: 12:22am On Apr 11, 2015
Useless Igbo article. Ths Oba has spoken, if you bunch of fools and ingrates are looking for a no mans land better go ask the United Nations to show you such land. Nwokem.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by shizzleStar: 12:23am On Apr 11, 2015
Brilliant piece by the erudite lady.

God knows its the vultures from the west that constitute a major problem of this country not even the northerners. Tribalistic and greedy vampires they are.

NE and NW gives buhari a landslide, they call the result credible, but SE and SS gives Jonathan a landslide, they say it is rigged and call it tribalistic voting. Pathetic set of despicable humans.

Chimamanda, i have not always agreed with your submissions, but this is one brilliant piece that can't be faulted by any right thinking human

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by ibedun: 12:26am On Apr 11, 2015
Scoring own goals is now the norm for this over-emotional people. They started a civil war with cutlasses and now voted for a president that was swimming against the tide.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Trailblazer1(m): 12:27am On Apr 11, 2015
I have never insulted an elder and don't intend to, but I strongly think that the oba of lagoon is an imbecilé



No Apology

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by shizzleStar: 12:31am On Apr 11, 2015
MugabeRobert:
[s]The ibos are now crying blue murder cos the yorubas decided to stop defending and start attacking. Well you ain't seen nothing yet, don't expect flowers in return after calling a region that accepted you a no man's land[/s]

You, just like your mumu oba of lagoon, is a mo.ron

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Godwin10123: 12:32am On Apr 11, 2015
ibedun:
Useless Igbo article. Ths Oba has spoken, if you bunch of fools and ingrates are looking for a no mans land better go ask the United Nations to show you such land. Nwokem.
Igbos have spoken ,Go and die. We re here to stay. The write up preach peace and tolerance but you re here passing on hatred to your generation. Go ahead!!! Igbos re here and oda state to stay aint nothing can do abt dat. Animals

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by BraniacX(m): 12:35am On Apr 11, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Nigeria is not a country, here is just a battleground for ethnic and tribal supremacy.

North voted Buhari they are reasonable voters.
East voted Jonathan they are tribalist.
The vultures are always in the middle

Now this................this is what i call, short, factual and straight to the point. Kudos

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by OdenigboAroli(m): 12:36am On Apr 11, 2015
Ymodulus:
I think I will start by trying to be Anthropomorphic, as it will bet express my heading.
Its really sad when insanity realizes that he has a mental disorder then he is as good as cured. The moment a people come to terms with their complex problem which often place them at loggerheads with their host communities the better for them.

I seem not to fathom how a tribe claim to have suffered humiliations and deprivation from other ethnic nationalities. This allegation should be consider very weighty even though it was not substantiated. Nonetheless, this aggrieved ethnic nationality needs to ask herself what is about it that could be responsible for the purported hostile acts of other ethnic nationalities toward it.

One problem I have with Chimanda is all her articles tends to quote Chinua Achebe, even when its evident chinua actions are wrong. The sane mistake she made, about his book "there was a country". Now she is trying to say that the Igbo's were murdered in early 1960's for political reasons? Who started the war? Was it the Nigerian Arny or The late Ojukwu ? I see Chimabda is biased. And she is just a staunt re-echoer of Chinua Achebe's belief.


I liked the fact that she related the massacre of the Ibos in different parts of the country before the civil war. However what I do like to ask her is this,

1. chimanda was there nothing that led to the massacre?

You can't deny that the tendency to dominate in another man's land which is being exhibited now by taking the Oba to court is what led to such. Tell me when you come back from court if the people of Lagos will still have a good relationship with the Ibos.


Chimanda while trying to play a neutral ground at the surface, is been biased deep down. I rest my case

You are inherently biased and tribalistic; What you should be doing now is to come out like a sensible human,condemn the Oba statement and not trying to pick a fight with those who frown at what your Oba said. To be honest,the Oba deserve every insult he is getting at this moment and there is nothing you ndi-ofe can do... Just talk and no action.
So,take your analysis and shove it down your oba black a,,ss. Fokking eediots!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Ymodulus: 12:41am On Apr 11, 2015
OdenigboAroli:


You are inherently biased and tribalistic; What you should be doing now is to come out like a sensible human,condemn the Oba statement and not trying to pick a fight with those who frown at what your Oba said. To be honest,the Oba deserve every insult he is getting at this moment and there is nothing you ndi-ofe can do... Just talk and no action.
So,take your analysis and shove it down your oba black a,,ss. Fokking eediots!

Sir am sorry to say but you are the biased one here. You should see I stated clearly , my issue with the article. The oba's action have come and go and without doubt he has cleared the air. That aside.

But for a lady coming to spew lies about how her people were murthered for a wrong reason of which will all know ain't true is condemnable. And as such I believe to the bottom of my heart I am not biased but have treated this issue the right way

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