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coogar:
fellaini - 10
young - 11

they have nothing to do with the midfield battle. it's herrera & carrick in the centre of the midfield and they are not pawaful.

You no know ball. Why do Herrera and Carrick always useless whenever either or both Young and Fellaini got injured? Even when Mata featured.

elampiro:
You no know ball. Why do Herrera and Carrick always useless when either or both Young and Fellaini got injured? Even when Mata featured.

because we weren't playing this system then. we weren't punishing our opponents. it's nothing to do with pawa. it's just about being smart & using the ball intelligently.

at every point on the flank, we always have our 3 players versus their 2 or our 2 players versus their 1 player. it's called an overload. simple tactical idea & it's been working pretty.

coogar:
we shall witness that pawa next weekend when ivanovic gets isolated with fellaini & young.



we have not struggled since the arsënal game in the cup tie & we have faced some pawaful midfielders in that time.



fellaini is too far away from the midfield action. he's almost playing in the hole but a bit closer to young.

the tactics is simple but yet effective - we are only overloading on the fullbacks while having 3 gifted technicians in the central midfield who can pass & move the ball quickly.

that long kick from de gea had 2 of our players on zabaleta. he got outnumbered & he conceded the cross that got the first goal. check the spurs & liverpool game - it was the same ish.

this isn't about pawaful midfield - without carrick, herrera & mata(license to roam) knitting the passes from deep to evade pawaful midfielders, fellaini's physicality would be hopeless.

You definitely know your football... What we're doing is simply overloading on the fullbacks akin to what Bayern does with Robben, Muller and lahm on the right or Ribery, Alaba and Schweini...
In Barca we see it with Neymar, Alba and Iniesta on the left and Messi, Alves and Rakitic on the right...
Even Chelsea do employ same strategy on their left side with Azpillicueta, Hazard and Fabregas/Oscar...

patrickmuf:
You definitely know your football... What we're doing is simply overloading on the fullbacks akin to what Bayern does with Robben, Muller and lahm on the right or Ribery, Alaba and Schweini...
In Barca we see it with Neymar, Alba and Iniesta on the left and Messi, Alves and Rakitic on the right...
Even Chelsea do employ same strategy on their left side with Azpillicueta, Hazard and Fabregas/Oscar...

elampawa thinks it's just pace & power.

coogar:
because we weren't playing this system then. we weren't punishing our opponents. it's nothing to do with pawa. it's just about being smart & using the ball intelligently.

No we played this 4-1-4-1 on some occasions and they were still poo. Although Blind played in some of the matches instead of Carrick.

coogar:
fellaini is too far away from the midfield action. he's almost playing in the hole but a bit closer to young.

the tactics is simple but yet effective - we are only overloading on the fullbacks while having 3 gifted technicians in the central midfield who can pass & move the ball quickly.

that long kick from de gea had 2 of our players on zabaleta. he got outnumbered & he conceded the cross that got the first goal. check the spurs & liverpool game - it was the same ish.

this isn't about pawaful midfield - without carrick, herrera & mata(license to roam) knitting the passes from deep to evade pawaful midfielders, fellaini's physicality would be hopeless.

Remove Fellaini, Ashley Young and Valencia. United will be the worst team in the EPL.

nyabinghi:
I no dey drink. I no dey start abuse I just return what is given to me.

even malt or water?

ElFenomeno1:
STFU.... We dont see you quoting when you get tonked.

Aww. Dont take it personal na. We've disappointed u at every turn, ur arguments barely ve anything to hold on to. Besides i'm still kinda new on this thread so 'IF & WHEN' we lose u still gon see me here. I'm no plastic fan. Dont cry u hear....

elampiro:
No we played this 4-1-4-1 on some occasions and they were still poo. Although Blind played in some of the matches instead of Carrick.

when?
when rooney was in the midfield? can rooney pass the ball without going sideways to valencia? you really underestimate the work carrick, herrera and mata are doing with those quick forward passes they offer.

go and check the match stats - compare our passing accuracy to city. then check the last time any PL team dominated city the way we did. fellaini provides an option when our defence is pressed & de gea hits it directly at him.

guy, you need to start watching games with maximum concentration.

elampiro:
Remove Fellaini, Ashley Young and Valencia. United will be the worst team in the EPL.

rafael would easily replace valencia
nani would easily replace young
fellaini is irreplaceable for now - not because of any physical battle - but he's an outlet for the direct pass from de gea. his chest is better than berbatov's first touch.

coogar:
elampawa thinks it's just pace & power.

There is nothing you know I dont already know.

When Madrid beat Bayern in UCL semi last season, it was only pace and power that saw them do that.

Same way Robben led Netherlands destroyed Spain.

When you have some players like Mascherano, Ronaldo, Robben and Ribery using their strength with a good all round team mate, nothing can stop them.


I don tire sef good night.

coogar:
when?
when rooney was in the midfield? can rooney pass the ball without going sideways to valencia? you really underestimate the work carrick, herrera and mata are doing with those quick forward passes they offer.

go and check the match stats - compare our passing accuracy to city. then check the last time any PL team dominated city the way we did. fellaini provides an option when our defence is pressed & de gea hits it directly at him.

guy, you need to start watching games with maximum concentration.

Was Rooney in our midfield when we drew West Brom 2-2, and some other games like that?

I knew this argument was going to end in Rooney. You get problem.

Rafael replace Val?

Nani replace Young?











Ukwu!!! I give up.

elampiro:
There is nothing you know I dont already know.

you dunno a lot.

When Madrid beat Bayern in UCL semi last season, it was only pace and power that saw them do that.

please stop highlighting isolated games. how come the same madrid were barca's bitchës for more than 3 seasons? where was madrid's pace & power when barca tonked them 5-0?

Same way Robben led Netherlands destroyed Spain.

where was netherland's pace & power at the world cup final in 2010. did robben not play that match? who offered the pace & power when cleverley & carrick mauled city at the etihad or when they destroyed chelsea @ the bridge in 2012/13?

When you have some players like Mascherano, Ronaldo, Robben and Ribery using their strength with a good all round team mate, nothing can stop them.

I don tire sef good night.

you don't need any yeye power to beat teams. barcelona & spain ruled the world for several years without power. it's about passing the ball, looking for opening & striking when the chance comes.

if it's about PAWA, cameroon should be winning the world cup every time it takes place.

elampiro:
Was Rooney in our midfield when we drew West Brom 2-2, and some other games like that?

januzaj on the right, shaw & di maria on the left. these players are conveniently the poorest users of the ball in the country.

I knew this argument was going to end in Rooney. You get problem.

hehe!
this is not about rooney. rooney is doing just fine in this philosophy. he could be better but his performance is satisfactory.

Arsenal using some pace and power in their midfield and won 8/8. Chamberlain defeated us in Old Trafford with pace and power. We have only won 6/6 yet Coogar thinks we have the best form in the EPL.

Not only Herrera and Carrick that have beaten City.
Since Yaya Toure went to AFCON.

Manchester City2 : 2Burnley Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2 Arsenal Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2Midlebrough

Liverpool 2 : 1Manchester City Match Report

Burnley 1 : 0 Manchester City Match Report

Crystal Palace 2 : 1 Manchester City Match Report





Bye!

coogar:
you dunno a lot.



please stop highlighting isolated games. how come the same madrid were barca's bitchës for more than 3 seasons? where was madrid's pace & power when barca tonked them 5-0?



where was netherland's pace & power at the world cup final in 2010. did robben not play that match? who offered the pace & power when cleverley & carrick mauled city at the etihad or when they destroyed chelsea @ the bridge in 2012/13?



you don't need any yeye power to beat teams. barcelona & spain ruled the world for several years without power. it's about passing the ball, looking for opening & striking when the chance comes.

if it's about PAWA, cameroon should be winning the world cup every time it takes place.

When Barca beat Madrid 5-0. Alves was 3 players covering so much ground even for the DMs and right wing. Barca had powerful men like Messi, defenders too to complement. Pace and power was there.

I willcontinue the stuff tomorrow, I am tired for now.

elampiro:
[b]Arsenal using some pace and power in their midfield and won 8/8. Chamberlain defeated us in Old Trafford with pace and power. We have only won 6/6 yet Coogar thinks we have the best form in the EPL.

arsenal haven't beaten city, spurs & liverpool in their run of games so united are the form team.

Not only Herrera and Carrick that have beaten City.
Since Yaya Toure went to AFCON.

Manchester City2 : 2Burnley Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2 Arsenal Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2Midlebrough

Liverpool 2 : 1Manchester City Match Report

Burnley 1 : 0 Manchester City Match Report

Crystal Palace 2 : 1 Manchester City Match Report
Bye!

and what does this prove?
city before AFCON lost games
city after AFCON lost games.

teams with no pawa dumped city out of europe - and it's now a yearly ritual for city. pawa is irrelevant in modern football. carrick is not pawaful & yet ate city's midfield throughout.

elampawa, any more excuses?

elampiro:
When Barca beat Madrid 5-0. Alves was 3 players covering so much ground even for the DMs and right wing. Barca had powerful men like Messi, defenders too to complement. Pace and power was there.
I willcontinue the stuff tomorrow, I am tired for now.

you mean alves played in the midfield?

xavi & iniesta were responsible for the 5-0 victory against madrid. nothing to do with alves.........and messi isn't a powerful player. he's a defensive liability.

AdeLaNa1:
Chris Smalling now has the same number of goals as Welbeck. 4

And Welbeck is looking down the table, just to see Chris smalling

pazienza:
And Welbeck is looking down the table, just to see Chris smalling

Keep calm. Its just one point. U still ve City, Chelsea and United to play

coogar:
may amadioha scatter your village for even having the temerity to post here. you are a consummate rëtard - after telling us to mark your words we wouldn't make top 4, you mean you can still have the gall to post here and be proud of united?

you quickly dumped your username for this old one to pull the wool over our eyes.....you think some of us have forgotten your idiötic remarks about 4 weeks ago. i can stand thieves, killers, drug dealers but one thing i cannot stand are hypocritical bastârds like you.








nyabingo, you are a fair-weather fan. if you cannot support the team when they were struggling, you have no right to come here & start beating your chest when they are winning. lest i forget, may amadioha scatter your teeth for trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

barawo!

may oya dry your sperm bank, if I post your numerous controversies, nairaland will crash, my ex username was created using an email acct with details long forgotten, when ur folks banned nyabinghi over 7 years ago, I created the inverse. Smell the coffee, did LVG sell valencia, rooney, jones, young, fellaini according to you, I am a dir hard united fan known everywhere I step . I am not a fan by posting trashy gifs, spewing bunkums, arguing like a retard. United is greater than LVG, we measure success of coaches in MUFC by trophies not UCL qualification. We are not Arsenal.

coogar:
fellaini - 10
young - 11

they have nothing to do with the midfield battle. it's herrera & carrick in the centre of the midfield and they are not pawaful.

I agree with you- Fellaini to me isn't much of a powerful player- he is a gentle giant kind of person who has a physical presence. There are smaller players who can be called powerful destroyers.

What we are getting out of him is that expensive and efficient chest and his height both which he is using so well now.

Carrick and Herrera are doing the job in the midfield and the players are playing so well for themselves as a team. Also tthe confidence is there.

Maybe am wrong sha

It's Monday n I'm still revelling in dis Derby win ,been a long time coming...









Anyways ,Sao Paulo's legendary goalkeeper Rogerio ceni(42) scored his 127th career goal against RB Brasil in d quarter final of d campeonata paulista via a free kick ,in a 3-0 win ...According to Goal.com ,he is d most prolific goalscoring goalkeeper in football's history ,Amazing!

Elampiro n his pace n pawa


more like his bread n butter

AdeLaNa1:
Keep calm. Its just one point. U still ve City, Chelsea and United to play

Just Chelsea and United, have already playerd Man City, won 2-0 at Etihad.

Man City is in decline, winning them is good, but nothing to go over the moon about.

If you win Chelsea, I will know you lots are back in business.

Anyways to d b1tches dat doubted d coach ,shey u guys r eating ur sh1t now ... Remove Herrera n blind from d team n d remaining 9 players currently on d first team were here last season n a certain Moyes rаped manutd's status n messed up on her head ,so I guess I won't be hearing dis "did Moyes spend dis kinda cash on players last season" crap I v been hearing since ,Moyes should be flogged for turning a team dat won d league a year b4 to a team dat finishes 7th cos if SAF had stayed one more season with d same squad ,we wouldn't hv finished outside d top 4 ...David Moyes, d chosen one who let teams sh1t on our laps ,even SAF was so flabbergasted dat he started sh1tting bricks

nyabinghi:
may oya dry your sperm bank, if I post your numerous controversies, nairaland will crash, my ex username was created using an email acct with details long forgotten, when ur folks banned nyabinghi over 7 years ago, I created the inverse. Smell the coffee, did LVG sell valencia, rooney, jones, young, fellaini according to you, I am a dir hard united fan known everywhere I step . I am not a fan by posting trashy gifs, spewing bunkums, arguing like a retard. United is greater than LVG, we measure success of coaches in MUFC by trophies not UCL qualification. We are not Arsenal.

you are a tool!
weren't you convinced LVG is doomed? didn't you say we won't make top 4? didn't you say moyes plays more attacking football than LVG? you have been exposed as a fair weather fan. you are not a die-hard fan, you are a moyes cöck-sucker. if gollum cüms in a cup, you would drink it up & lick the cup.

parrotibaba:
Anyways to d b1tches dat doubted d coach ,shey u guys r eating ur sh1t now ... Remove Herrera n blind from d team n d remaining 9 players currently on d first team were here last season n a certain Moyes rаped manutd's status n messed up on her head ,so I guess I won't be hearing dis "did Moyes spend dis kinda cash on players last season" crap I v been hearing since ,Moyes should be flogged for turning a team dat won d league a year b4 to a team dat finishes 7th cos if SAF had stayed one more season with d same squad ,we wouldn't hv finished outside d top 4 ...David Moyes, d chosen one who let teams sh1t on our laps ,even SAF was so flabbergasted dat he started sh1tting bricks

you speak like an english dude

coogar:
lacazette - CF
arturo vidal - CM
mats hummels - CB

keep de gea at all costs & if he insists on leaving, take a player from real madrid as part-exchange. varane, kroos or bale would be fine.

replace de gea with cech or begovic.

Have you watch Dortmund's most recent matches. Hummels is presently having a "Kompany" season IMO.
No pace, mistimed tackles and generally found somewhere in midfield most times Dortmund concedes.
LVG should do his due diligence before signing players o

afrodoc2:
Have you watch Dortmund's most recent matches. Hummels is presently having a "Kompany" season IMO.
No pace, mistimed tackles and generally found somewhere in midfield most times Dortmund concedes.
LVG should do his due diligence before signing players o

that is what happens when the team isn't playing well. we had a taste of that last season when even some of our fans here wanted everyone out of the club completely.

minus blind & herrera, the 9 other players featured against city last season and we were tonked home & away by an aggregate of 7-1. hummels is a bloody good defender. we would be silly not to have him if he wants to come to us.

coogar:
that is what happens when the team isn't playing well. we had a taste of that last season when even some of our fans here wanted everyone out of the club completely.

minus blind & herrera, the 9 other players featured against city last season and we were tonked home & away by an aggregate of 7-1. hummels is a bloody good defender. we would be silly not to have him if he wants to come to us.

fair enough. i have always been a fan of hummels and know he has class. however if his body is failing him it might be advisable to look elsewhere.
dortmund's team defence can be shambolic no doubt but looking at hummels individually it appears to me that he has lost a yard or two of pace. its too bad that there are few quality central defenders at the moment in football, he just might be the best available with all i have said

afrodoc2:
fair enough. i have always been a fan of hummels and know he has class. however if his body is failing him it might be advisable to look elsewhere.

hummels would bring a wealth of experience to reset the brains of jones, mcnair & blackett. this is why we need a world class defender - a leader of men at the back.

dortmund's team defence can be shambolic no doubt but looking at hummels individually it appears to me that he has lost a yard or two of pace. its too bad that there are few quality central defenders at the moment in football, he just might be the best available with all i have said

even the great de gea couldn't save us from some embarrassing defeats last season. football is a team game - if there's no protection for the defence, even the world best defenders would get torn apart.

we need a new RB, CB, CM & CF