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elampiro: United played with 10 men for 45 minutes and lost 1-6.

Kompany sent off in 11th minute. City lost 2-3. With 10 men they almost killed us when they fought from three goals down.

Your porous memory needs a refill.

Your crashing is getting worse the more you try to be clever.

City played 6 games (5 EPL, 1 FA CUP) when Toure went to AFCON. City only won one. grin grin Ukwu!!!

1/6 win when Toure was away says it all. cheesy

Before Toure went to AFCON, City had climbed to a point they were to over take Chelsea. Silva dashed all that.

* Carrick is the worst in interception for us this season. Save us sermons from 1930. Jones always one of our best in interception since his arrival. This season Jones is still best.

* Among our midfielders this season, Carrick is the worst in interception. Herrera, Mata and Blind time in midfield far beat Carrick interception.

I favour varied talent of midfielders even the very slow ones. Why do I like Scholes and Xavi?

But I will pick Mascherano as my DM over anyone in the world. I talk mostly of a balanced team with good dribblers, ball keepers, scorers etc.

Carrick will not be relevant today if someone like Fellaini is not in our midfield three. Is Fellaini is taken off and there is no one like do the damage for us in that area, Carrick and Herrera wont be able to cope with the oppositions running riot on us. I wont forget to mention that Valencia offers him a helping hand.

Players like Hargreaves, Mascherano, Kean, are needed in a team. The problem Madrid has today is that of a proper DM who can stop oppositions.

elampiro:
However, most of our players now (Carrick, Herrera, Mata and Fellaini) are playing against players who are already tired from too much battle this season.

elampiro:
RVP has played all his time as a forward. While Rooney had even been used as a DM.

Herrera is an attacking midfielder. Rooney was a deep lying midfielder without license to move forward considering Young and Fellaini left a vacuum in our midfield. Even Carrick was injured for a while. You dont just know ball sef. Even Mc Nair had to play some matches.

Are you counting those matches we played before the transfer window was closed? When the team didnt know its left from its right?

Meanwhile, Rooney has 6 goals as a centre forward. Then he has scored every time he played the number 10.
Swansea 1 goal
QPR- 1 goal
Sunderland 2 goals
Spurs 1 goal
Villa 1 goal.

Ayagayagayagayo hei ayagayagayagayo

SailorXY:
this is nothing, absolutely nothing. who gives such excuse in public? anyone can as well roll out their team B to start the season & finish strongly with their first 11 pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttttttttt

SailorXY:
how many wingers are we going to need for one season?

coogar:
and what if bale does a di Maria?

@elampawa,
when you dress up your comment, your reply is waiting.

coogar:
you need to take more cod liver oil to help your memory. we were walloped 1-6 cos at no point in that game did united give up on trying to equalise - and that was why city players were taken apart yesterday by sky pundits. they rolled over after mata's goal. they accepted the loss even before the game was over.

in the 1-6 loss, as at the 90th minute, the score was 3-1. yet, united kept pouring men forward looking for means to equalise and showing a fighting attitude till the end. they didn't care if more goals were conceded, they just refused to roll over & accept the loss.



but they lost only one game!
now that he's back, they have lost about 5 away games in a row. they didn't win any champions league game when toure was in the team. in toure's absence hey beat bayern @ home and killed roma away from home - those were only the 2 games they won in their entire european campaign. they also lost community shield to arsënal with toure in the team.

coincidence?



carrick is the club's best interceptor in years. the reason is number is low this term was because his presence in the team coincided with most of our wins & we bossed possession in most of those games to the point that there's virtually nothing to intercept.

we outpassed city last night & we hugged the bulk of the possession. however, when he's absent, the midfield collapses and we come against lots of pressure from the opponents. i don't just make claims without having my statistical evidence to back my claims.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2306441_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

the above is carrick's historical stats on interception. i dare you to find any united player who has intercepted as high as 4.4/game in the history of the club. jones(your hero) has 3.5 as his highest in his entire career. khaki isn't leather.



busquets is the best DM in the world. that you prefer pace & power doesn't make it the ideal way to go about it. this is why busquets is keeping towering players like toure & mascherano away from the DM position. it's about intelligence, not running around like a headless chicken.



was carrick relevant when he destroyed toure at the etihad in 12/13? abi fellaini helped him out then? what about when carrick destroyed ramires at stamford bridge in the same season?

cleverley must have been a mascherano type that was helping carrick back then to beat teams with gorillas in their midfield. after cleverley destroyed toure in the 2nd half of the community shield in 2011, i finally came to conclusion that midfield battle is brains over brawns.



they are not needed!
spain didn't have a single player like this in their midfield when they won euro 2008, world cup 2010 & euro 2012. you should watch the final of 2010 world cup and see how busquets kept de jong & van bommel at arm's length or how busquets destroyed schweinsteiger & khedira in the semis.

coogar:
the positions are irrelevant.
herrera is scoring from the midfield - smalling is scoring from the defence. why should rooney not score? he passes it to the wing and makes a run into the box to score from crosses. which of his goals did he score from the centre of the pitch?




what is smalling??
an attacking defender?



if i counted it for van persie then rooney isn't excluded. rooney scored against swansea - that was before the transfer window closed.



rooney has scored 4 league goals in 11 games as a centre forward - it's not just good enough for an elite striker. if rooney as a striker was tearing the net when the season first started, he wouldn't have been moved deeper in the midfield.




unfortunately, elampawa has no shame. he would look for the most ridiculous excuses when he's ran out of things to say.

why are chelsea players not tired? they have the thinnest squad in the league and yet they keep winning. they played in europe, went all the way in carling cup and they have only 15 players they use consistently.

adebayo201:
Elamp, Coogar, Odun and others please site to download yesterday's match

I don't want YouTube oh. And should be highlights not full match!


Thanks. '(

SailorXY:
we win - argument

we lose nko? - Kung Fu

which way United fans

elampiro:
Stop all these lies. FRooney has not scored 4 goals as a CF. I listed his matches but you are looking at whoscored data which is not accurate.

Rooney has not played 4 matches as a AMC. Although that is were he has wrecked his most damage to oppositions with goals and assists. On stats he is the best there in the league.

Coogar, go ahead with your Rooney hate. I am off here.

pazienza:
Just Chelsea and United, have already playerd Man City, won 2-0 at Etihad.

Man City is in decline, winning them is good, but nothing to go over the moon about.

If you win Chelsea, I will know you lots are back in business.

AdeLaNa1:
U wan dey post pictures abi?

coogar:
where's kemizee?

https://giant.gfycat.com/IdealFaintIslandwhistler.gif

does he think rafael coulda done this without fouling aguero?

AdeLaNa1:
Even Mata seems to ve improved his defensive game unlike his Chelsea days. He was the one chasing down Silva....

coogar:
whoscored data isn't accurate?
i never thought i would see the day elampiro would disagree with the holy bible of his football stats. so who should we listen to? you?

you had his 2 goals against sunderland in your list. did falcao not start against sunderland? if falcao was on the pitch, how the hell was rooney the main striker on the night?

it's time to sing ayagayagayo for yourself.



he has played 4 matches as an attacking midfielder(centre) and has scored 4 goals there. that stat is irrelevant anyways. it's the CF stats that is getting my goat.



i don't hate rooney
he's not good enough to lead the line. VP's min/goal is better than rooney's - statistics prove that.

I was the first person to point out on this thread that whoscored starting line up is not accurate. Remember my argument with you ans Tess1 in December 2013.

* Now list Rooney's 11 matches in attack lets analyse them.

SailorXY:
this is nothing, absolutely nothing. who gives such excuse in public? anyone can as well roll out their team B to start the season & finish strongly with their first 11 pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttttttttt

elampiro:
Since the arrival of new players in September, it's only Newcastle and Liverpool matches Rooney has played as a number 9, that he has not recorded either a goal or/and Assist.

Even Newcastle. He forced a goal by his deadly last minute chase.

adebayo201:
Elamp, Coogar, Odun and others please site to download yesterday's match

I don't want YouTube oh. And should be highlights not full match!


Thanks. '(

coogar:
where did rooney play against sunderland?

elampiro:
Sunderland early in the season, he played number 9. That was before the arrival of new players.

afrodoc2:
4.
We will be in several competitions including the champs league so 4 players to fight for 2 spots is not bad.
bale,nani,young and depay or something like that.....abi e bad?

adebayo201:
@Odun,thanks for the reply but it'll be a wasting of data downloading tube mate and still searching for highlights to download.

Elamp and Coogar no even get person time. Sailor , can you offer help here pls

highlights of yesterday's match

coogar:
what has the arrival of new players gotta do with this? are you going to cancel the goal rooney scored against swansea @OT? it was before the arrival of the new players too.

where did rooney play when we beat southampton 2-1?

adebayo201:
@Odun,thanks for the reply but it'll be a wasting of data downloading tube mate and still searching for highlights to download.

Elamp and Coogar no even get person time. Sailor , can you offer help here pls

highlights of yesterday's match