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SailorXY:
lol bros I no get idea o, no vex

elampiro:
He had an Assist against Southampton.


Before the arrival of new players, we were shyte. RVP did not score in that period too.

adebayo201:
thanks. I'll try it.

coogar:
you like shifting arguments....

you said rooney has scored 6 goals when he's played as CF. you fraudulently counted the 2 goals he scored against sunderland @OT, he wasn't a CF that night, he played as an AM behind falcao.

so deduct 2 from 6 and you would have the 4 goals whoscored put correctly in the graphics. in a nutshell, rooney has 4 league goals in 11 apps as the CF. good enough to lead us? hell no.

elampiro:
If he played AM that night, then Rooney has more than four goals as an AM. It means he also has played less than 11 matches. I am not even considering the number of times he was pushed backward to midfield after starting as a striker.

coogar:
stop making your argument, dude!

you said if rooney had been playing as CF all season, he would have had the same numbers as aguero, costa, kane, etc.

i disagreed & i said rooney isn't as good as that elite group. i said rooney has only 4 league goals in 11 games in the CF position. what has that gotta do with AM position?

elampiro:
Rooney is better than those guys as a CF.

Those guys were told they would be centre fowards and they were prepared for it. Yet they also have their dry period.

Rooney was used as a second striker in a 3-5-2. Then he would be dropped to midfield when Falcao is introduced. Rooney has 5 goals since he has played as a lone striker, plus the FA Cup. Despite being dropped to midfield in second half of games, this record is better than those strikers you mentioned.

Now using your argument, Roonehy's 1 goal+ per match from the number 10 is the best in the EPL. This therefore means all such number 10s like Silva, Fellaini are inferior to Rooney in the hole.

elampiro:
Coogar, when Rooney scored the second goal vs Sunderland, was he still plying behind Falcao?
Infact, that day I actually thought Rooney was Falcao's partner.

Michael Carrick was again absolutely outstanding at the base of the Manchester United midfield. He won 100% of his tackles, completed 92% of his passes and made fourinterceptions. The perfect performance in terms of a midfield pivot and a defensive screen for his back four.

coogar:
the stats don't agree with you.



same as rooney!!
what is his job?



falcao doesn't get introduced until the 60th/70th minute? what had rooney achieved until falcao comes on board?



hahahaha......
that would be true if rooney doesn't have to take awoof penalties to pad up the stats. as an AM, it's not so much about the goals scored, but the goals created or key passes created.

rooney falls flat in the face when you consider that.

coogar:
the stats don't agree with you.



same as rooney!!
what is his job?



falcao doesn't get introduced until the 60th/70th minute? what had rooney achieved until falcao comes on board?



hahahaha......
that would be true if rooney doesn't have to take awoof penalties to pad up the stats. as an AM, it's not so much about the goals scored, but the goals created or key passes created.

rooney falls flat in the face when you consider that.



falcao won the penalty, rooney scored the pen. falcao went off for fellaini, rooney became the CF & he got the second goal.

elampiro:
Rooney played as a pair striker with Falcao. That was what I saw and that is what BBC, Goal.com, Telegraph and Daily mail reported.

Rooney has 6 goals as a striker.

coogar:
hahahaha.....they know nothing about football. OPTA saw it differently - paired as a striker in your lucid dreams.

rooney was in the hole.

elampiro:
Same way OPTA saw Ozil playing in the hole against Bayern Munich whereas he actually played in the wing.

They also saw Kagawa in the hole whereas Januzaj was used in the hole when Kagawa was sent wide.

Countless time within 3 weeks I proved OPTA wrong four times.

coogar:
rooney played in the hole against sunderland - we haven't played a 2-striker formation since RVP got injured.

in a nutshell, rooney is hopeless as a CF.

elampiro:
When RVP was injured, Rooney was sent forward to replace him. So we played two strikers. I saw it with my eyes. Post match reports by several media houses reported it same way I saw it. Fast forward a month later, Coogar decided to believe in pre-match charts and graphs.

coogar:
hehehe
so the graphics that rated players after the game is pre-match? you mean the players had already been rated before the game?

elampawa, you are running out of excuses.

You are the one running out of excuses, relying on graphs and charts we already agreed were not to be relied on for match formations.











Coolie-guy Tortoise, no matter the cunning you employ here, it wont work.

elampiro:
We have experimented how these things work. You yourself said we should not rely on whoscored formation chart after an argument.

During the Ozil, Kagawa etc argument, I followed the way these things work. I stated them here. I was on whoscored from 1st minute till the end and I saw how the scores automatically adjusted. The initial raw format is gotten from OPTA.

coogar:
you can rely on them after the game. when opta & whoscored agree on a formation, it's always the truth. yes, there are few times when the managers make a last minute switch after giving the press association a different list - however, rooney played in the hole against sunderland.



you have reiterated my point.
they might get it wrong before or during the game, they don't get it wrong after the game. the graphics i provided is after the game so why do you still doubt it?

you no wan gree rooney is useless as a CF?

elampiro:
They have gotten it wrong after a game countless times. This is not even disputable.

elampiro: Rooney played as a pair striker with Falcao. That was what I saw and that is what BBC, Goal.com, Telegraph and Daily mail reported.

coogar:
prove it.....

why do you feel the need to lie when you have been swallowed by a superior argument? will it kill you if you accept rooney is inferior to kane, aguero & costa?



you told us goal.com had rooney pairing with falcao as a striker - the lie detector machine raised an alarm that you were lying.

this was how goal.com saw it.
elampawa, you have been exposed yet again.

coogar:
prove it.....

why do you feel the need to lie when you have been swallowed by a superior argument? will it kill you if you accept rooney is inferior to kane, aguero & costa?

elampiro:
Go to goal.com post match report, my friend.

SailorXY:
what do you think of a lower profile but experienced CF like Benteke?

I'm more concerned about experience through the middle, it helps coordination. we can see the effect of it with Carrick in midfield & non-effect in central defence.