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| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Demdem(m): 9:49am On Apr 16, 2015 |
[b]Section 147 and 148 of the constitution explains more about who and what a function of a minister is. Am particularly interested in 148(1) that says President in his discretion MAY assign any Minister of the govt of the federation responsibility for ANY business of the Government of the federation including administration of any dept of govt. In otherwords, that u are a minister doesnt neccesarily mean that u must head a ministry neither does it mean u must be in a ministry. If he so desires, he can decide that u head a particular department e.g NTA and still call u a minister. 148(2) provides for regular meetings with all Ministers. It should be noted however that Jonah-daft and his vice president has a lot of Special assistants, senior special assistants, special advisers and senior special advisers that are part of the reason why this govt seems to be very bogus. These lot are a strain in the finances of the country and the laws neccesarily doesnt cater for it. Having 36 ministers to satisfy the laws of the land (against my desire though) while infusing the duties of these assistants to be part of the duties of the ministers is a perfect way of pruning down the govt massively. above all, i trust Osinbajo will come up with something tha will be constitutionally acceptable For instance, Jonah-daft has Minister for special duty, special adviser on special duty and the fool went ahead to create an office for the ambassador at large. what for? One thing is certain, Buharis govt will surely be smaller than Jonah-daft bogus and inefficient govt.[/b] |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 9:50am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe:Bla bla bla bla bla.................... ![]() |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by armstrong82: 10:06am On Apr 16, 2015 |
2a2cc7fa |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by abouzaid: 10:07am On Apr 16, 2015 |
lai Mohammed denied the report and they still went ahead to print it while you guys are killing yourselves over it making me wonder if any of you actually read it. buhari will run ministerial business as usual in order to settle d boys. we are already repeatedly hearing talks of the no of ministers promised to the likes of tinubu while obj pushes for a minister for finance. i don't see any remarkable change occurring during this mans tenure. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by nwadiuko1(m): 10:13am On Apr 16, 2015 |
That will be good |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by EverestdeBliu(m): 10:13am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Exactly what my HOD suggested yesterday during our department seminar. He should scrap some public offices which do not fiscally add to the nation's national income |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 10:14am On Apr 16, 2015 |
@Post. Buhari's idea is not novel or new. Indeed the PAC (Presidential advisory committee) GEJ convened while still acting President in 2010, led by Danjuma, advised that waste and profligacy be cut through 'pruning' down the size of government. See below. GEJ never said a word about the recommendation of the committee not being possible going into the 2011 elections, and even promised a "feedback" PAC expected to be positive, because of his pro-profligacy intentions and support for bloated governance he knew would lose him votes from ordinary Nigerians. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/01/danjuma-raises-concern-over-high-cost-of-governance/ Danjuma raises concern over high cost of governanceLo and behold, GEJ states that "leaner Cabinet impossible for now" after winning the 2011 election and give flimsy excuses for this that is the same his misguided followers, used to failure, are parroting here. I wonder how difficult people think it is to amend relevant sections of the constitution, especially to secure pivotal changes, simply because the PDP has made it appear impossible to do this. My view is that we shall see whether all the PDP say is "not possible" , to the extent their sycophants are on this thread boring us with excuses they hope will make Buhari fail, will remain "impossible". It is highly instructive for Nairalanders to note that after GEJ made the announcement below he never tried to gain the amendment that would make a "leaner cabinet" possible. Instead self-serving GEJ swung into action to passionately seek a bill that will give him tenure elongation. Let us wait and see. The naysayers, coincidentally all rabid haters of Buhari and clannish/ethnocentric supporters of GEJ, will be disgraced. As I have always maintained, PDP always has an excuse for why fundamentally required reforms, capable of transforming Nigeria, can never be implemented. Because of this, many ordinary Nigerians have developed a negative mindset and even prefer to talk in favour of failure rather than realise what we have in Nigeria is an aberration since generally, and worldwide, the law serves man and not the other way round. As if Buhari, supported by simply some of the finest brains in Nigeria, will be stating issues that have zero feasibility. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-leaner-cabinet-impossible-for-now/91612/ Jonathan: Leaner Cabinet Impossible for Now |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by VanOmiyale: 10:14am On Apr 16, 2015 |
dustmalik:Try and learn if you don't know something. The constitution provides for one minister per state, APC will have to change the constitution to cancel the position of minister of state. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Montaque(m): 10:17am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe:u just wasted spaces on this thread. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Montaque(m): 10:17am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe:u just wasted spaces on this thread |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 10:21am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Montaque:Mumu, and what have you done by posting twice? I really wish dullards like you would stop quoting me and remain in your romance section. If you don't understand what some write here then stay in your Nollywood section of NL where you can talk about Tonto Dike's underwear. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by esere826: 10:24am On Apr 16, 2015 |
abouzaid:thanks for this. however, the discussions are still relevant in order to feel the pulse of the electorate. A number of people are making sense here, and this is what is coming through in the discussions: 1) We don't like the large number of political appointees that are a drain on our purse 2) Even the best government with the most noble of intentions might be constrained by constitutional provisions and/or national habits to trim down the number of ministers 3) No one wants to feel marginalized and all stakeholders expect to be treated fairly 4) Creative ways could be explored to prune down the number of ministers and other appointments 5) Constitutional amendments might be needed; or constitution challenged; or constitution bent to see this through and finally: 6) APC is no longer trying to win the election. Talk is not what we need, after all GEJ was good at good ideas that were sent to committees and left to rot there. APC are soon going to be in charge. We want actionable CHANGEs and not mere proposals that might not see the light of day. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Montaque(m): 10:25am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda:funny u. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by CyberTerrorist: 10:28am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda:You are an ediot.....Here is the same thing from the link you posted... [b]147. (1) There shall be such offices of Ministers of the Government of the Federation as may be established by the President. (2) Any appointment to the office of Minister of the Government of the Federation shall, if the nomination of any person to such office is confirmed by the Senate, be made by the President. (3) Any appointment under subsection (2) of this section by the President shall be in conformity with the provisions of section 14(3) of this Constitution:- provided that in giving effect to the provisions aforesaid the President shall appoint at least one Minister from each State, who shall be an indigene of such State. (4) Where a member of the National Assembly or of a House of Assembly is appointed as Minister of the Government of the Federation, he shall be deemed to have resigned his membership of the National Assembly or of the House of Assembly on his taking the oath of office as Minister. (5) No person shall be appointed as a Minister of the Government of the Federation unless he is qualified for election as a member of the House of Representatives. (6) An appointment to any of the offices aforesaid shall be deemed to have been made where no return has been received from the Senate within twenty-one working days of the receipt of nomination by the Senate.[/b] You this bastard stylishly left the post in red for your devilish and ediotic interest ![]() |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by nduchucks: 10:33am On Apr 16, 2015 |
CFCfan:As we know, the process of amending the constitution is a very long one. Now, if the positions of Minister of state are not filled or provided for in an annual budget and the NASS approves the said budget, then there will be no Ministers of states for the said year. Existing Ministers of state can be given the option to retire peacefully or fired after auditing their ministries . None of them can survive a real audit.I'm sure other more effective workarounds can be found as an interim solution until the constitution is amended. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by omonnakoda: 10:33am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Demdem:This is why me must never give up on any one.Long ago I had secretly believed your head was FULL of coconut water.I now confess my error and admit that there are some brains AS WELL |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by CyberTerrorist: 10:39am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe:You are the retar.ded ediot here...So you want Osinbajo to manipulate the constitution to marginalize the SE & SS states and later the will come to this same state to explore oil they use in running the government?...You are a hopeless bastard for thinking that it gonna be possible..let us just fold our arms and watch as the drama unfolds...You people don't even know what you are dealing with..Buhari's government is government for all or this Nigeria will not accommodate us..ediot ![]() |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by ibietela2(m): 10:40am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe:Ended up making no sense |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 10:46am On Apr 16, 2015 |
shaqhead:Thanks for the remainder. Actually by having a representation of all ethnic groups means that each state should provide an indigent to be represented in government, at the ministerial level. Nigeria is like Solomon, and that is our strength. Our diversity is our strength and ALL groups must be considered and factored in, for any meaningful progress to be made. In as much as you must have to cut cost, you must not put to detriment, the very fabric that binds us together as a people. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by slimfit1(m): 10:52am On Apr 16, 2015 |
If office of the first lady stand the ministry of women affairs must go. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by jaybee3(m): 10:53am On Apr 16, 2015 |
May or Will? |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 10:57am On Apr 16, 2015 |
EverestdeBliu:It is what any intelligent person will suggest because Nigeria simply cannot make adequate progress otherwise. I am personally waiting to see so many myths, about this and that being "impossible", destroyed by the APC to show that the main impediment to Nigeria's progress was pro-people political will which the PDP never had. For those interested go and read more through the link below to see how GEJ finished Nigeria by directly jacking up our recurrent expenditure via bloating the size of Governance to understand that it is a waste of time indulging the enemies of progress here talking about "constitution". How did OBJ achieve whittling down number of Ministries from 22 to 16 only for GEJ to reverse this and then almost triple the number from 16 to 42? http://www.ijirs.com/vol3_issue-7/49.pdf High Cost Of Governance And Development In Nigeria: A Case Study Of Goodluck Jonathan’s Administration (2011-2014) 3. Analysis Of High Cost Governance In Nigeria: |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 11:02am On Apr 16, 2015 |
CyberTerrorist:Another empty and ethnocentric olodo insulting others yet not bright enough to realise he is the ignorant oaf unable to note he is talking totally out of context of "marginalize the SE & SS states". Look above. Perhaps you need to visit OBJ at his Ota farm so he can explain how he reduced Ministries to 16, from 22, while GEJ increased them to 42. What could be more indicative that things are not as rigid as crooked leaders like GEJ make you believe and what else do your oppression-destroyed and ethnocentric eyes need to see to note that they are mainly hiding behind the "constitution" excuse to continue enriching themselves, their friends, their cronies, AGIPs and political jobbers like Obanikoro who know nothing else in life but political office? You are nothing but a silly 'prisoner' who is "suffering and smiling" while holding brief for his jailer and oppressor. I can only pity you. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IbokUtoroh(m): 11:10am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe:its like u r really pained. bros tek orijin for calming sake! |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 11:30am On Apr 16, 2015 |
IbokUtoroh:I am not "really pained". What annoys me is the motivation behind the posts of some of these guys which makes them very aberrant citizens and enemies of Nigeria's progress. It is like a nation having many citizens, more than is healthy, who want their own nation to fail because of nothing other than their hatred and prejudices against others. Only a fool will pretend not to know Nigeria has been warned by analysts universally , since the PDP took over in 1999, that we can never make progress subsidizing governance cost with over 70% of our budget. It is crazy and such has to stop . The constitution cannot be an excuse because OBJ did it and the sky did not fall. The constitution is only an excuse for one of two people. (1) Those suffering from 'Stockholm syndrome' and therefore prone to making excuses for their oppressors and jailers and (2) those who want Buhari, and by extension Nigeria, to fail because of their prejudice against his region of origin and religion. I know these guys already, through their past posts, and this is why I talk to them the way I do. Imagine the r.etard I addressed in my post you quote calling Buhari "Dorodullard" because Buhari suggests something OBJ has already achieved thus showing such is feasible? Did the constitution take a holiday under OBJ? Who is then the "dorodullard" and "semi-literate" (the words of another Buhari-hating dullard) if not these bitter, hateful and ignorant element more interested in insulting Buhari than the progress of Nigeria? Nothing I hate more than seeing people whose actions and utterances are driven by prejudice alone. Jonathan could not fight Boko Haram for 5 years and all manners of excuse were given yet did we not see him swing into action when faced with an election loss? We should stop doing this in Nigeria because it is highly irritating and offensive to those who are exposed and have perhaps experienced progressive societies where the right things are done to secure the right outcome that moves society forward. Nigerians themselves, the real victim of misrule, should stop buying the excuses of leaders like GEJ and then helping those leaders continue to misrule Nigeria by being their agents of spreading those deceitful excuses as some are doing here for one of the two reasons I stated above. We should stop showing aberrant behaviour publicly and mocking Nigeria as a warped nation where people are comfortable to speak as if laws control man, to the detriment of society, and not the other way round as obtains in most nations of the world. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by shaqhead: 11:31am On Apr 16, 2015 |
kaboninc:I hate to go on and on about this with u and cant place my hand on why u dragging a simple issue. What I see comin from u is semantic rigmarole; At first u said ALL(250+) ethnic groups must be represented at the centre which I couldnt fathom and that compelled me to take on u. Now u beat a retreat aand come back to d main argument of the topic at hand by sayin that an indigene should represent d ethnic groups of a particular state at d ethnic level. My position remains same: Ur position of "effective representaion" does not equate to "effective governance" considering d attendant costs. If this government is to succeed, ds is one way to go among other avenues to cut down on recurrent expenditure so we can have more on capital projects. U acknowledged what I said about Nigeria being like Solomon but u ddnt maake mention of him takin on unnecessary responsibilities of Wives and Concubines(Ministers) who handle Ministries with overlapping functions that is a clog in the wheel of governance. Yes Nigeria's strength is in her diversity but the Ministerial appointment from every state which u align wt does nt show the strength of dt diversity. The strength of such diversity is seen when the creative ingenuity of the ethnic groups is tapped for developmental purposes-that is d definition of strength in diversity which gives birth to effective governance, not some "effective representation" by ministers who dont evn kno d ethnic groups in their home states. |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IbokUtoroh(m): 11:39am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe:bros it has not cometo this na, haba! for just orijinwey i say make u take na it u write epistle as long as letter from paul to the people of ephesus? so if i give u orijin na chapters i go see? brosno vex o. anonimi abeeg tk it easy, lets do our opposition on a small scale till wen jona handover to awa doroDULLY! |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Demdem(m): 11:43am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda:Shattap.................do u think i have the time and luxury to be brainstorming with fools constantly? |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by nagoma(m): 11:53am On Apr 16, 2015 |
anonimi:Bitterness
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| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by omonnakoda: 11:54am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Demdem:E be like say you dey vex ![]() |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Demdem(m): 11:55am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda: nahhh |
| Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 11:56am On Apr 16, 2015 |
IbokUtoroh:hehehehehe, Una go kill persin here. Anyway, just brace your self for many more long boring, tribalism infused, epistles from that Resident Hypocrite, no 1 worshiper of DoroDullard, the semi-literate cattle herder. |
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. None of them can survive a real audit.