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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 2:06pm On Apr 16, 2015
Mykevp2p:


The funny thing is that Lai Mohammed denied the talk of scraping or merging ministries and MDAs, yet some folks are already up in arms with their sycophancy. Let APC start the issue of constitution amendment in the house, while they are at it, reduce the cost salary and allowance of the executives and legislators, then we will know how serious they are. Talk is always and ever cheap. They came in through propaganda and want to govern with propaganda!


That's the problem here.
They jump at every little rumour, that's convenient for them and expect everyone to join the chorus! Then they try to vilify those who ask hard questions, and point out the systemic challenges.

While the nonentity Gbawe is busy urging us to chorus 'alleluia' to a fantasy, his party chieftains are already refuting the suggestion, as you rightly noted. What's more, elective representatives of APC are already calling for the creation of more ministries. Something Gbawe, the sycophant and hypocrite conveniently overlooked:


Vanguard (Lagos)
15 April 2015
Nigeria: Buhari's Government Should Create Ministry of Lagos Affairs - Re-Elected Legislator


A re-elected member of the Lagos State House of Assembly, Mr Bisi Yussuf, on Wednesday urged the in-coming administration at the federal level to create a ministry for Lagos affairs. Addressing scores of supporters at his constituency office in Ipaja-Ayobo Local Council Development Area, the legislator said that it would facilitate rapid upgrading of infrastructural facilities in the nation's commercial capital.

Yussuf (Alimosho I), of the All Progressives Congress (APC), said that Lagos should be accorded the rightful federal revenue allocation befitting its status as the nation's commercial capital.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 2:08pm On Apr 16, 2015
shaqhead:

Yes, our constitution mandates that ministers be appointed each state of the federation but goin about jerking off on that only makes you half smart.

Simple question: Can this portion of our constitution be easily amended with the APC in control of the houses?

So take a chill pill, if GMB government takes this route to achieve a lean government considering the dire straights our country is in economically, it wl b quite expedient!
An amendment bill has to be passed by a 2/3 majority in both houses of the NASS, AND 2/3 of the 36 state houses of Assembly.

By June, the APC won't have control over 24 Houses of Assembly, neither would they have the required numbers in the Senate and HOR.
Therefore, the proposed amendment can only be passed if the other parties cooperate with the APC.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 2:12pm On Apr 16, 2015
Mykevp2p:


The funny thing is that Lai Mohammed denied the talk of scraping or merging ministries and MDAs, yet some folks are already up in arms with their sycophancy. Let APC start the issue of constitution amendment in the house, while they are at it, reduce the cost salary and allowance of the executives and legislators, then we will know how serious they are. Talk is always and ever cheap. They came in through propaganda and want to govern with propaganda!

Aha !!! And the penny drops. I always knew, behind your pretence at objectivity, you are merely another pro-PDP/GEJ proponent hoping the APC will be all about "propaganda". Let us wait and see. GEJ was a very weak and elitist President. Yet look at what he achieved. Did the legislative arm not ask him directly to reverse the fuel subsidy removal? Did he not brush them aside and even threaten he would use "executive fiat" to push forward the policy?

Aside the tenure elongation bill GEJ, which was contentious because of how it was seen as GEJ's attempt to perpetuate himself in power, how many times did the legislative arm resist GEJ when he really wanted something from them badly? The problem with you guys, aside supporting PDP and GEJ obdurately, is that you do not want to accept that the 'can't do' and "impossible" mantra is mainly a PDP import put in place to facilitate the looting of Nigeria. How do you guys think Countries like the USA, UK, Japan et al became great? By frustrating themselves with self-destructive lawmaking which are then somehow "non-amendable" even when they are hurting the Country immensely?

We are recording half the income we got from oil not too long ago because price plummeted from over $100.00 per barrel to around $56.00 per barrel today. How will the legislative arm get away with being seen as frustrating Buhari's attempt to bring fiscal discipline in an austere period when there is no other option but to cut cost or face economic ruin? What you guys do not want to accept is that Jonathan never even tried whereas OBJ tried to meander around the problem. If Nigeria is to make progress, especially in this austere period, then a President, sooner or later, has to face the problem of cost-cutting squarely and Nigerians, leaders and followers, must support him to do this.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by nonyjay(m): 2:17pm On Apr 16, 2015
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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by stinggy(m): 2:21pm On Apr 16, 2015
Lemon12:
Buhari is fast becoming a talkative
Smh undecided Don't just read headlines. Buhari didn't even say anything, it was Lai that spoke to newsmen, and he negated their views.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 2:23pm On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


Aha !!! And the penny drops. I always knew, behind your pretence at objectivity, you are merely another pro-PDP/GEJ proponent hoping the APC will be all about "propaganda". Let us wait and see. GEJ was a very weak and elitist President. Yet look at what he achieved. Did the legislative arm not ask him directly to reverse the fuel subsidy removal? Did he not brush them aside and even threaten he would use "executive fiat" to push forward the policy?

Aside the tenure elongation bill GEJ, which was contentious because of how it was seen as GEJ's attempt to perpetuate himself in power, how many times did the legislative arm resist GEJ when he really wanted something from them badly? The problem with you guys, aside supporting PDP and GEJ obdurately, is that you do not want to accept that the 'can't do' and "impossible" mantra is mainly a PDP import put in place to facilitate the looting of Nigeria. How do you guys think Countries like the USA, UK, Japan et al became great? By frustrating themselves with self-destructive lawmaking which are then somehow "non-amendable" even when they are hurting the Country immensely?

We are recording half the income we got from oil not too long ago because price plummeted from over $100.00 per barrel to around $56.00 per barrel today. How will the legislative arm get away with being seen as frustrating Buhari's attempt to bring fiscal discipline in an austere period when there is no other option but to cut cost or face economic ruin? What you guys do not want to accept is that Jonathan never even tried whereas OBJ tried to meander around the problem. If Nigeria is to make progress, especially in this austere period, then a President, sooner or later, has to face the problem of cost-cutting squarely and Nigerians, leaders and followers, must support him to do this.

You must really have a whole of time to play with.. damn it, must you write long epistles just to make your point? jumping from one issue to another just to nail GEJ won't work.

You are against fuel subsidy removal, well, I'm expecting to see you and your likes marching the street when Buhari ends fuel subsidy.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/buhari-to-end-fuel-subsidy-rationalise-mdas/206829/

While at it, I fully expect petrol to be N40 per liter after the fuel subsidy has been removed.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 2:24pm On Apr 16, 2015
CFCfan:

An amendment bill has to be passed by a 2/3 majority in both houses of the NASS, AND 2/3 of the 36 state houses of Assembly.

By June, the APC won't have control over 24 Houses of Assembly, neither would they have the required numbers in the Senate and HOR.
Therefore, the proposed amendment can only be passed if the other parties cooperate with the APC.

watch as the APC will demystify long-held misconception about "2/3 majority" et al. Numbers don't tell the whole story with Nigeria in regards to our legislative arm. It is always about controlling the centre and then having the majority in the upper and lower house which means those three realities can work in synergy to always get a President what he wants legislatively. Is that not how PDP has done it for the past 16 years?

Answer this. How many times did the legislative arm fail to oblige the "weak" GEJ? If he wanted a $1 billion loan to fight Boko Haram, after protest in the house that he is yet to account for how $18 billion devoted for the same purpose was spent, he still got his way and the Legislative arm obliged even with murmurs the $1 billion was "campaign funds".

When GEJ wanted Obanikoro approved a Minister of State, despite the stain of the Ekiti-gate scandal hanging around his neck, Mr.President got his way. I can give so many example where horse-trading and being the head of the executive arm got GEJ what he wanted from the legislative arm. The problem is that most Nigerians cannot understand the level of self-interest, placing the President in a very strong position, that motivates the actions of our legislators. GEJ and other PDP Presidents could have gotten more pro-people laws passed if they were really interested in leading for Nigerians as i believe Buhari and Osinbajo are. This is the bottom line.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 2:36pm On Apr 16, 2015
nduchucks:


As we know, the process of amending the constitution is a very long one.

Now, if the positions of Minister of state are not filled or provided for in an annual budget and the NASS approves the said budget, then there will be no Ministers of states for the said year. Existing Ministers of state can be given the option to retire peacefully or fired after auditing their ministries lipsrsealed . None of them can survive a real audit.

I'm sure other more effective workarounds can be found as an interim solution until the constitution is amended.

Ndu, is that how you guys intend to rule us?? To circumvent the Constitution at will and under the pretense of achieving a 'higher' purpose?? Just like a lot of prople feared in a BUHARI-CUM-APC Govt.

The tangs are Ben laid bare too soon, don't you think do??
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 2:39pm On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


When GEJ wanted Obanikoro approved a Minister of State, despite the stain of the Ekiti-gate scandal hanging around his neck, Mr.President got his way. I can give so many example where horse-trading and being the head of the executive arm got GEJ what he wanted from the legislative arm. The problem is that most Nigerians cannot understand the level of self-interest, placing the President in a very strong position, that motivates the actions of our legislators. GEJ and other PDP Presidents could have gotten more pro-people laws passed if they were really interested in leading for Nigerians as i believe Buhari and Osinbajo are. This is the bottom line.

You talk too much.

APC is in power, both at the Executive and the Legislative.

Lets see how they (including you) take us to the moon.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 2:41pm On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


Another empty and ethnocentric olodo insulting others yet not bright enough to realise he is the ignorant oaf unable to note he is talking totally out of context of "marginalize the SE & SS states". Look above. Perhaps you need to visit OBJ at his Ota farm so he can explain how he reduced Ministries to 16, from 22, while GEJ increased them to 42.

What could be more indicative that things are not as rigid as crooked leaders like GEJ make you believe and what else do your oppression-destroyed and ethnocentric eyes need to see to note that they are mainly hiding behind the "constitution" excuse to continue enriching themselves, their friends, their cronies, AGIPs and political jobbers like Obanikoro who know nothing else in life but political office? You are nothing but a silly 'prisoner' who is "suffering and smiling" while holding brief for his jailer and oppressor. I can only pity you.

Tai!! You Bladdi, Shameless LIAR/PROPAGANDIST!!

when did GEJ increase the No of Ministeries to 42? You mean we have 42 Ministeries in Nigeria currently??

Do you even know the difference between a Minister and a Ministry?? OLODO

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 2:41pm On Apr 16, 2015
taharqa:


Ndu, is that how you guys intend to rule us?? To circumvent the Constitution at will and under the pretense of achieving a 'higher' purpose?? Just like a lot of prople feared in a BUHARI-CUM-APC Govt.

The tangs are Ben laid bare too soon, don't you think do??

Leave all these people.

They think Buhari got there by his own doing.

Let him be sworn in. Then he will understand the meaning of a "STAKEHOLDER"

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by mikolo80: 2:45pm On Apr 16, 2015
anonimi:


You mean the Mega clueless directionless promises he cannot fulfil

Are you aware there is a provision for one minister from each state? Will your DoroDullard Buhari create 36 ministries to fulfil these requirement or MARGINALISE some states?
come on stop telling lies(does "reflect federal character" mean from every state)
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 2:46pm On Apr 16, 2015
[size=18pt]Cabinet of President Goodluck Jonathan[/size]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_President_Goodluck_Jonathan
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 2:56pm On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


You clearly have comprehension issues. Where did I talk of the number of Ministers? I made it clear OBJ shrunk federal Ministries for the purpose of reducing cost while GEJ increased them to increase cost considerably as several authoritative studies concluded!!!! Furthermore, my consistent argument remains that Buhari can move, through a constitutional amendment, to achieve what he seeks because the law is not designed to be an impediment to man. This is the reality worldwide.

It is folks like you that seem to assume otherwise because you live in a Country where crooks deliberately hide behind the constitution and extant law to explain why our recurrent expenditure is above 70% of total budget while it is less than 10% in many developed Nation. My friend, the way we speak send signals to our leaders. Continuing to accept and defend their excuses gives them the green light to continue stealing with their 80% to 20% ratio. I.e 80% for them and 20% or less for Nigerians. Buhari and the APC should move aggressively to achieve the constitutional amendments that will make possible every measure to cut cost so that capital spending can be augmented massively at the expense of recurrent expenditure.

The point is that PDP presidents already varied nomenclature and Ministerial hierarchy dubiously , even swapping between substantive ministerial appointees for state positions, to get what they want. Do you then think it is so hard or impossible , if a determined President with the political will, wishes to pursue an amendment to do away with Minister of State especially when this is what Nigerians, i.e those with the power, really want? Better accept that things will "change" under Buhari because Nigerians voted for him to bring "change" and not to offer excuses as GEJ did which then led to Nigerians voting him out. Buhari only needs the legislative arm, unaffected by Ministerial changes, to get behind him. You guys may not be happy to concede so but the finest brains, who know how to negotiate and win, are already in Buhari's corner. Even the non-sagacious GEJ got a lot of concession out of our legislature regularly, to include most recently the morally reprehensive 'bow and go' used to confirm Obanikoro a Minister by a majority PDP legislature led by a PDP Senate President, so I don't know where you people get your ideas of legislative rigidity from.

Oh!! Dear God!!! Someone should Plzzz save this Clown from his many miseries. Abeg.

Gbawe, Plzzz SHUT FHUCCK UP abeg. You are too old to be making a fooool of yaself in public forum like this.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 3:03pm On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


watch as the APC will demystify long-held misconception about "2/3 majority" et al. Numbers don't tell the whole story with Nigeria in regards to our legislative arm. It is always about controlling the centre and then having the majority in the upper and lower house which means those three realities can work in synergy to always get a President what he wants legislatively. Is that not how PDP has done it for the past 16 years?

Answer this. How many times did the legislative arm fail to oblige the "weak" GEJ? If he wanted a $1 billion loan to fight Boko Haram, after protest in the house that he is yet to account for how $18 billion devoted for the same purpose was spent, he still got his way and the Legislative arm obliged even with murmurs the $1 billion was "campaign funds".

When GEJ wanted Obanikoro approved a Minister of State, despite the stain of the Ekiti-gate scandal hanging around his neck, Mr.President got his way. I can give so many example where horse-trading and being the head of the executive arm got GEJ what he wanted from the legislative arm. The problem is that most Nigerians cannot understand the level of self-interest, placing the President in a very strong position, that motivates the actions of our legislators. GEJ and other PDP Presidents could have gotten more pro-people laws passed if they were really interested in leading for Nigerians as i believe Buhari and Osinbajo are. This is the bottom line.
I agree that Buhari can definitely be in the forefront of the campaign to repeal that section of the constitution. Political horse-trading is one of the beauties of democracy too. I'm sure some carrots would dangled before opposition lawmakers to get behind the amendment process.

Anyway, the proposed amendment should limit the number of ministers to between 24 and 30, and an Act of the NASS should further reduce the number of ministries to at least 15.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 3:08pm On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


It is folks like you that seem to assume otherwise because you live in a Country where crooks deliberately hide behind the constitution and extant law to explain why our recurrent expenditure is above 70% of total budget while it is less than 10% in many developed Nation. My friend, the way we speak send signals to our leaders. Continuing to accept and defend their excuses gives them the green light to continue stealing with their 80% to 20% ratio. I.e 80% for them and 20% or less for Nigerians. Buhari and the APC should move aggressively to achieve the constitutional amendments that will make possible every measure to cut cost so that capital spending can be augmented massively at the expense of recurrent expenditure.


Biko, we've heard enough.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 4:06pm On Apr 16, 2015
kaboninc:


Biko, we've heard enough.


Abi oo

Who wish to continue reading long boring epistle of the nonentity Gbawe, when his paymaster Liar Mohammed has denied even the premise of his profuse propaganda!

The old imp is yet to get the memo, that's why he continue to foam in the mouth like one demented!

In any case, we call for less propaganda and more action!

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by nduchucks: 4:25pm On Apr 16, 2015
taharqa:


Ndu, is that how you guys intend to rule us?? To circumvent the Constitution at will and under the pretense of achieving a 'higher' purpose?? Just like a lot of prople feared in a BUHARI-CUM-APC Govt.

The tangs are Ben laid bare too soon, don't you think do??

Ewudan, smiley our democratic system is sophisticated enough to allow for appropriate sanctions when the constitution is circumvented.

May I ask you where you were when the thieves and rougues in power, before the nation booted them out, were circumventing the constitution by perpetrating the greatest level of looting of resources ever experienced in any African country, in human history?

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Skoopy(m): 4:27pm On Apr 16, 2015
anonimi:


You mean the Mega clueless directionless promises he cannot fulfil

Are you aware there is a provision for one minister from each state? Will your DoroDullard Buhari create 36 ministries to fulfil these requirement or MARGINALISE some states?

The principle of federal character only stipulates that each state be duely represented at the federal level. This does not translate into having a minister from each state of the federation else we will as well have 36 secretary to the gov't etc.

States that do not have ministers will fill in other offices such as SGF, SA, Amb. High commissioners etc.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 4:58am On Apr 18, 2015
When will he leave the proceeds from the resources in the niger delta for Niger deltans ?
His change no reached that side?
Hypocrites

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