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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 8:19am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Excellent questions...especially the 44 ministries one. The elephant in the room is that appointments to high office are viewed by the populace as a means to getting close to the national cake sharing. Thus...if your son or daughter is not in power....you won't ''benefit'' from the government. As I said...I do wish that Buhari would cut the number of ministries. However....the painful thing is that thanks to the Federal Character principle...it might be tough. Because the minute he appoints a cabinet of say 15 ministers (when he was in office in the 1980's it was 13...and that was smart....but then again army rule does not operate under the Constitution.)....there will be shouts of marginalization.....and anyone defending the attempts to cut waste would be accused of being a bigot. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 8:23am On Apr 16, 2015 |
fejicruz: Good idea....and I would even take a 12 minister cabinet...with 2 gents per zone. But...knowing Nigerians.... When the Federal Character thing was put in place in the 1979 constitution...it was meant to prevent the major cause of the crisis in 1966....the idea then that certain tribes were being marginalized. Sadly....it also leads to waste.(see Shagari's over-appointments....including Presidential Liaison officers....who could be equal to ministers then). 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Demdem(m): 8:23am On Apr 16, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: Dont worry, when we get to that bridge we will cross it. I for one is waiting for these ones. |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 8:24am On Apr 16, 2015 |
if a minsiter of state should go! how much more a[b] minister of state II[/b]. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 8:26am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Demdem: It should be when Northwest and Southwest forgo ministerial appointments because they already occupy the first and second positions. Let the courts decide after the above premise is implemented. |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by omonnakoda: 8:28am On Apr 16, 2015 |
PointB:Is this from the 1999 constitution? http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#FederalExecutive I cannot find it !! This is the 1999 constitution 147. (1) There shall be such offices of Ministers of the Government of the Federation as may be established by the President. (2) Any appointment to the office of Minister of the Government of the Federation shall, if the nomination of any person to such office is confirmed by the Senate, be made by the President. (3) Any appointment under subsection (2) of this section by the President shall be in conformity with the provisions of section 14(3) of this Constitution:- (4) Where a member of the National Assembly or of a House of Assembly is appointed as Minister of the Government of the Federation, he shall be deemed to have resigned his membership of the National Assembly or of the House of Assembly on his taking the oath of office as Minister. (5) No person shall be appointed as a Minister of the Government of the Federation unless he is qualified for election as a member of the House of Representatives. (6) An appointment to any of the offices aforesaid shall be deemed to have been made where no return has been received from the Senate within twenty-one working days of the receipt of nomination by the Senate. 14. (1) The Federal Republic of Nigeria shall be a State based on the principles of democracy and social justice. (2) It is hereby, accordingly, declared that: (a) sovereignty belongs to the people of Nigeria from whom government through this Constitution derives all its powers and authority; (b) the security and welfare of the people shall be the primary purpose of government: and (c) the participation by the people in their government shall be ensured in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution. (3) The composition of the Government of the Federation or any of its agencies and the conduct of its affairs shall be carried out in such a manner as to reflect the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity, and also to command national loyalty, thereby ensuring that there shall be no predominance of persons from a few State or from a few ethnic or other sectional groups in that Government or in any of its agencies. |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 8:29am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Massive investment in the private sector and favourable micro economic policy should be made, cos the private sector are the main drivers of every developing economy 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 8:32am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda: You can't find it or you didn't read what you copied and pasted? I've highlighted it for your benefit! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by LEXYCOM: 8:34am On Apr 16, 2015 |
gebest:Are u related to patience Jonathan? What is waist in the statement u made? |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by JUBILEE2000: 8:38am On Apr 16, 2015 |
makzeze: Job for the "boys". They have to settle the boys one way or the other |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 8:40am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Then the 14(3) says; (3) The composition of the Government of the Federation or any of its agencies and the conduct of its affairs shall be carried out in such a manner as to reflect the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity, and also to command national loyalty, thereby ensuring that there shall be no predominance of persons from a few State or from a few ethnic or other sectional groups in that Government or in any of its agencies. Democracy is not a military regime where a machoman issues orders 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by TopHand: 8:45am On Apr 16, 2015 |
anonimi:pls try and listen to yourself, how do u think? so does the USA have a ministry 4 every one of their states, or is that how europe operate, try and think constructively, so every state must have a minister? doing what job? r there not other positions/jobs available in the govt which can satisfied the need 4 a federal character? from yur words it shows that u r a young inexperienced man bred by a system which believes that it should b spoon fed and given entitlements which it has not labored 4, do not b a symptom of a legacy of waste and squander, do not call others clueless directionless and full of false promises yet on the other hand u advocate wasting money to run ghost ministries, young man pls think in terms of productiveness, self dependance, wealth creation and efficiency. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Demdem(m): 8:46am On Apr 16, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: Why not the SS/SE forgoing their seats since they seems not to believe in the incoming government. Its unheard of that a man will reap from where he did not sow. Its criminous. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 8:46am On Apr 16, 2015 |
PointB: Hahahaha, just see how he intentionally stopped at 147 (3) didn't complete the sentence and jump to 147(4), these people feed on propaganda and deceit!. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by omonnakoda: 8:47am On Apr 16, 2015 |
PointB:Thanks ,sorry The provisions you cited were different numbers I have read that Thoroughly now. The key phrase is MINISTER OF GOVERNMENT which unfortunately the constitution does not DEFINE but it seems we must have a minister of government from every state. We have always assumed that means a Minister in a Ministry(there is such a thing as Minister without Portfolio) but I am sure creative legal minds can redefine what a Minister of Government means e.g we can give the title to ambassadors. We do not have to create Ministries to fulfil the requirement 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 8:48am On Apr 16, 2015 |
If the semi-literate president-elect has no bill prepared to make the necessary constitutional amendment, he has no business making 'populist' propaganda comments. In any case, such laws may not even be passed before he names his cabinet, unless he's going to do this by year end! Governance in democracy in not cattle rearing! 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nellybii: 8:49am On Apr 16, 2015 |
anonimi: Provision in the constitution?? You are the real dullard here. Stinking nonentity referring to your president elect as dullard. You don't even have a name yet. The statement is not even credited to him yet you. Idiot have started ranting. mtcheeeeeeew 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 8:49am On Apr 16, 2015 |
This is exactly what I want. Ministers of state are nothing but a blatant waste of resources. Since their inception, nothing of note have been heard or recorded of by these so called ministers expect unbridled history of corruption and profligacy. They are simply just to placate alot of the president cronies and financiers. They are utterly useless to the Nigeria public. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 8:49am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Demdem: I thought you wanted a repeat of the attached protest by your kinsmen 1 Like
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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 8:50am On Apr 16, 2015 |
TopHand: Instead of over-ranting, just get a copy of your constitution and have a read. Why attack the person and not your constitution? or are we saying it's alright for Buhari to disregard the constitution? |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by omonnakoda: 8:52am On Apr 16, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE:Is Nigeria a democracy ? |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Demdem(m): 8:52am On Apr 16, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: What does this stupidity got to do with topic of discussion? By the way, whose kinsmen? 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by egopersonified(f): 8:53am On Apr 16, 2015 |
My God!!! I am shocked. I have being complaining about this issue for years. Is this really happening in Nigeria? Is this freedom at last? I 'm really scared. |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by anonimi: 8:54am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Gbawe: Instead of foaming in the mouth like a dog that has swallowed what is taboo for it, you should simply have addressed the issue of MARGINALISATION I raised, ok You will need to show threads/post where you supported Jonathan after 2011 to be believed. Good that APC controls both federal houses so no excuse for the DoroDullard not fulfilling ANY of his yoyo promises including true federalism of four years ago!!! 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 8:54am On Apr 16, 2015 |
omonnakoda: No problem. True we cannot create ministries to fulfill constitutional requirement, that is why 'creative legal minds' created the Minister of State portfolio. The solution may lie in restructuring the country perhaps along regional line, alas, APC had no such plans! We dey look oo! 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 8:56am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Nellybii: Dullard should be his new name from now on. If President Jonathan was consistently called clueless by nobody and somebody, then Buhari is on his way to be crowned the king of dullards ** This is to show Buhari's supporters how foolish it was calling GEJ clueless 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by shaqhead: 8:57am On Apr 16, 2015 |
anonimi:Yes, our constitution mandates that ministers be appointed each state of the federation but goin about jerking off on that only makes you half smart. Simple question: Can this portion of our constitution be easily amended with the APC in control of the houses? So take a chill pill, if GMB government takes this route to achieve a lean government considering the dire straights our country is in economically, it wl b quite expedient! |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by enigmang: 9:02am On Apr 16, 2015 |
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT READ THE PART IN BOLD Farnesyl1989: 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 9:02am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Nellybii: He reserves the right to call the president elect a dullard, especially since he's been acting as one through his clueless kaftan/trainers combo, and now this ill-conceived pronouncement, among others before and during the election. The president-elect score F9 in mathematics and woodwork even in a dodgy statement of result, surely dullness doesn't go further such poor academic. But these are beyond the point. We are discussing the dullard's proposition of scrapping Minister of State portfolio, and wondering if he's read the constitution and is prepared to caused the necessary amendment (through the National Assembly), or whether he's just living up to his reputation as a semi-literate dull president-elect with his usual unintelligent assertions! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 9:05am On Apr 16, 2015 |
dustmalik: There is such a provision in the Constitution, OLODO. Stop criticizing others if you do not know shiit. By d way, Buhari or his cohorts, should continue to raise people's expectations unnecessarily and over matters they know they can't fulfill at least for some time. It would backfire soon enough. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 9:07am On Apr 16, 2015 |
shaqhead: Impossible, the constitutional review is a difficult task that requires 24 out of 36 States to approve with 2/3 majority in each State's Assembly. APC don't even have 2/3 majority in NASS let alone 36 States of the Federation. |
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by arewatech(m): 9:07am On Apr 16, 2015 |
anonimi: It says from all 36 states of the federation, meaning all states eligible to provide a minister. It does not state the each state must get one (or more). Get that into your Dumb brain
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