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Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by DebateNigeria: 11:52am On Apr 19, 2015

dinachi:
My brother, I believe it is high time we dissociated ourselves from this Ijaw deception. Our blind support for Jonathan in the last elections has cost us heavily politically. Now seeking to further isolate us by telling Igbos to ignore the central government is just plain miscalculation. The Ijaws are down politically already and they want to drag us down politically. Our best options had always been to align with the north. In the sixties that gave us president and senate President. In the seventies that gave us vice presidency. Our alignment with Ijaws could only give us sgf, deputies in the national assembly. We need to be wise! The Ijaws only collaborated with us because they were the senior partner in the coalition. They got Presidency which is the highest price. We have suffered and bled with the Ijaws. It is now time to move on and negotiate our deal with our traditional partners the north. There is nothing left to do with the Ijaws. The so called coalition has outlived its usefulness. We should extricate ourselves from their political misfortune and reintegrate our selves into national reckoning. That is the way to go! Regional politics is the politics of yesterday. The South west have realized that already! That is why they formed a coalition with the north.

Mr, ur post is just unfortunate. Politics is like a football match, u win some and u lose some. You don't go about supporting every team that wins, if not there won't be an arsenal fan today, not even one, but some of us are.
Would you rather prefer a one party system? The reason why we may have a formidable opposition today is because of the SE, not even SS. The SW remained in the opposition since 1999(except 2003 when they voted for their brother OBJ), since 2003 the north west have always voted for Buhari.
Lets see how long the NW/NE/SW marriage lasts.
Please the easterners should not feel bad, they should concentrate on how to develop their region.
Elections are over. Nigerians are still one. And for a long time to come, we shall continue to vote along ethnic lines(the religious part is gradually fading away).
May God bless our president Elect, Gen Buhari.

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Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by DebateNigeria: 12:01pm On Apr 19, 2015

dinachi:
Ask barca poo the champion of south south-south east integration how many votes his Ijaw brothers gave Ojukwu in 2003 in Bayelsa State. 3 votes! That is what the Ijaw man thinks about the Igbo man politically! But because they needed our votes to sustain Jonathan's brigandage, we now hear how we are their long lost brothers! If Jonathan was from the south east no single Ijaw man will cast their votes for him. That is the truth. OUR BEST OPTION POLITICALLY IS TO BUILD BRIDGES ACROSS OTHER REGIONS. Enough of local Ijaw politics.

Unfortunately you are wrong again. The south south don't really care about jonathan as much as the south east. If you ever had an interaction with a ss guy, you discover they don't give a hoot about GEJ, they too are divided along ethic lines. The ss is like the NC, the major blocks in the politics of Nigeria remains the NW, NE, SE and SW. So it was a good decision SE made, if not all major blocks will become one, dangerous for our democracy.
As for me, I don't care who becomes what. Governance should not be about who gets what but what has be able achieved. GEJ will not be remembered for the number of position he distributed per zone, rather by his policies, programs and projects, same for GMB at the completion of his tenure

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Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by Change2015(m): 12:02pm On Apr 19, 2015

barcanista:
This is one question that no one is yet to answer. Those positions only benefit the occupant and his family.

Budget presentations are made to the Senate and their committees also oversee many parts of the economy. Senators are able to influence projects and spending to benefit their zones. They can approve and reject projects by not approving or approving appropriation, they also can press ministers to initiate or terminate programs. People who say these positions lack power beyond the personal, are only fooling themselves.

#change
#GMB
#APC
#oneNigeria

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by ItsMeAboki(m): 12:03pm On Apr 19, 2015

barcanista:
Staying in the system does not equate to joining the ruling party. Actually, I had expected you to point out the influnce that the position yields but you only gave assumption. We don't need the Senate Presidency before we can get our demands like Resource control and stuffs, what we need to do to get that is by being resolute and strategic/tactical in approach. The. SS and SE zones have been pawns in the political game in Nigeria for long, this time it is #Never Again. It's better to be outside, develop the zones and forge strong political bloc in order to form a tripod with the North and West in the power game in Nigeria rather than settle for peanuts like we have been doing in the past.

It would appear that you are being stubbornly myopic and refusing to face reality.

How do you suppose you could form a strong political block when in fact you only constitute a minority?

You forget that politics is always a game of numbers; so how do you expect to get your demands met e.g. for resource control when you are lack the necessary numbers of representatives in the national assembly to bring about the required majority votes to carry such motion; or do you expect such reform to occur simply because you demanded for them?

I had already pointed out the importance of the positions of both the Senate President and Speaker of the House, by stating quite clearly that they could influence the possible outcome of a law being promulgated - why else is there always a big scramble for these positions and why also were past presidents always trying to pre-determine who were selected; if at all the said positions are not very important and quite influential?

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by Nobody: 12:10pm On Apr 19, 2015

ItsMeAboki:
It would appear that you are being stubbornly myopic and refusing to face reality.

How do you suppose you could form a strong political block when in fact you only constitute a minority?

You forget that politics is always a game of numbers; so how do you expect to get your demands met e.g. for resource control when you are lack the necessary numbers of representatives in the national assembly to bring about the required majority votes to carry such motion; or do you expect such reform to occur simply because you demanded for them?

I had already pointed out the importance of the positions of both the Senate President and Speaker of the House, by stating quite clearly that they could influence the possible outcome of a law being promulgated - why else is there always a big scramble for these positions and why also were past presidents always trying to pre-determine who were selected; if at all the said positions are not very important and quite influential?

shatap and get out .

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by Change2015(m): 12:25pm On Apr 19, 2015

DebateNigeria:
Mr, ur post is just unfortunate. Politics is like a football match, u win some and u lose some. You don't go about supporting every team that wins, if not there won't be an arsenal fan today, not even one, but some of us are.
Would you rather prefer a one party system? The reason why we may have a formidable opposition today is because of the SE, not even SS. The SW remained in the opposition since 1999(except 2003 when they voted for their brother OBJ), since 2003 the north west have always voted for Buhari.
Lets see how long the NW/NE/SW marriage lasts.
Please the easterners should not feel bad, they should concentrate on how to develop their region.
Elections are over. Nigerians are still one. And for a long time to come, we shall continue to vote along ethnic lines(the religious part is gradually fading away).
May God bless our president Elect, Gen Buhari.

I think the problem many have with the way the SE voted, is the way they embraced the vilest propaganda, the names and insults hurled at every other Nigerian, the utter lack of explanation or justification for the rabid association with Jonathan. It is not like Jonathan did anything special or significant in the SE. The federal roads are still generally crap, the second niger bridge is still at stage 0.5, there is little logical reason that is apparent to an outsider. Certainly Jonathan also lacks personality and presence, so it is really hard to understand. He had no political philosophy, no background of any achievement.... Nothing. Basically since 2011 we have watched him fritter away all the goodwill and hope the ordinary people had reposed in him.
Even the Christians of the north central have grown weary of his effete security stance.
Then you have the Lagos scenario where, once again the Igbo seem not to associate with the political leanings of their neighbours just as they could not see how the nations view of Jonathan had changed.
Jonathan got more votes in the north than Buhari got in the se/ss. These are all pertinent issues for Nigerians who observe politics.

#change
#GMB
#APC
#oneNigeria

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Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by Nobody: 12:46pm On Apr 19, 2015

TRIBALSTOOGE:
shatap and get out .

Chai. E pain am grin

Can't you intelligently reply him?

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by Nobody: 1:03pm On Apr 19, 2015

Toby77:
Chai. E pain am Can't you intelligently reply him?

dat one no be pain oooo

wetin no killi me naim meki mee strong ooooo

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by superstar1(m): 1:44pm On Apr 19, 2015

Another senseless thread from the worst political analyst and strategist in the politics section of NL.

If you are a man of integrity enough, you should not even discuss political strategy for the next decade on NL. You need to be under political tutelage for the specified number of years.

I can NEVER take any political discuss from this political neophyte serious. Always out of tune with reality and beclouded by pains of GEJ's defeat.

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Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by ItsMeAboki(m): 2:06pm On Apr 19, 2015

TRIBALSTOOGE:
shatap and get out .

See PAINMENT!

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by UncleJudax(m): 3:05pm On Apr 19, 2015

barcanista:
you have spoken(writen) well. Before now, there is this misconception against the SE by the SS. This misconception of "Igbos want our oyel and our land" was so strong and passed from parents to children. The damage it caused can never be quantified but over the years, events showed that the claim is baseless and devilish. It was conceived and promoted by those that saw a united east as a threat to their political dominance. The SE zone has showed that they have no negative agenda against the SS. Since the breakup of the Eastern Region, both splinter zones have benefitted "Nothing" in this Nigeria State and there is no prospect of benefitting anything should things remain as they are. This many young and even elderly SSner started to realise. The IYC for instance has been a strong follower of the Igbo antagonism in the past, but on realising they had to beg ohanaeze for forgiveness in February. The voting pattern of March 28 and April 11 even showed that the Unity of the Eastern bloc should be a priority if we are to move forward.

By the grace of God we shall fashioon out a framework and enlighten more of our people( though most of them have now realised). We won't relent in this. We shall show the SE that our apology was not to play to the gallery but we really mean every bit of it and we want this unity.

Let's do our best, and see how it unfolds.

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by Babacele: 2:33pm On Apr 20, 2015

MzJackBaueress:
If not that you mentioned me,I wouldn't have commented on this thread.

Its high time pro-Buhari supporters stopped posting on Barcanista's threads and contributing to his topics. The more you post on his threads,the more you make him feel so important.

APC has won the presidential elections. His posts are irrelevant and inconsequential. He is only seeking for attention which you guys are giving him.

*walks out of thread*

intuitively correct baby. and that's why I have ignored dignifying the fraudulent n shameless pseudo analyst with my responses. Hope u kicking fine? May29 th is the longest date in the world mehn! I can't wait to see her! oh don't expect me to use the pronoun "it".

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by Babacele: 2:34pm On Apr 20, 2015

MzJackBaueress:
If not that you mentioned me,I wouldn't have commented on this thread.

Its high time pro-Buhari supporters stopped posting on Barcanista's threads and contributing to his topics. The more you post on his threads,the more you make him feel so important.

APC has won the presidential elections. His posts are irrelevant and inconsequential. He is only seeking for attention which you guys are giving him.

*walks out of thread*

You are intuitively correct baby , and that's why I have decided to stop dignifying the fraudulent n shameless pseudo analyst with my responses. Hope u kicking fine? May29 th is the longest date in the world mehn! I can't wait to see her! oh don't expect me to use the pronoun "it".

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by ziccoit: 3:04pm On Apr 20, 2015

barcanista:
This has been the modus operandi of the APC. The party does not understand freedom of choice and right to choose. The PDP never abused the far north for voting for Presidential candidate CPC in 2011. Nobody told the SW how they have "lost out politically" for voting ACN in their respective States elections in 2011. In fact, when the ACN leaders kicked against Mulikat their kinswoman to favor Tambawal, a Sokoto man, nobody blasted them for shutting themselves out of "prominence". Why can't APC and their supporters learn to be "democratic"?

Do you know why PDP didn't abuse North in 2011 when they voted CPC? It was because GEJ was able to get handful of votes from that region then. Katsina lost to PDP candidate at gubernatorial election. Wining an election is not only by "wining". Handful of votes cast may be a saving grace sometimes which was what happened in 2011. You want to compare the serious bashing PDP recieved there in 2015 to 2011? Hell no. The Northerners really take PDP out for washing this year.

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by obi4eze(m): 1:50am On May 01, 2015

barcanista:
you sound pathetic. Ojukwu(of cursed memory) ran away frm battle after Adekunle had taught him the lessons of his life. His Deputy, Useless Effiong surrendered and you are saying that it was planned? Hahahaah
You should be ashamed that Coward Ojukwu was ashamed of his own people, hence he couldn't invest in the East nor build properties there. Coward Ojukwu looted the treasury as Eastern Governor while you ppl suffer. He(Ojukokoro) contested for and lost ALL elections on his own turf to even a Yorubaman(Obj) and Fulaniman (Yaradua). He even lost WOEFULLY in his Senate bid to a Newbie in Nnewi. Even today, an Ijawman in the person of Goodluck Jonathan is considered the MESSIAH and GOD of the Igbos over any Iboman. That same Ijawman will always hold Adekunle in highest esteem.
Adekunle on the otherhand may not by RICH but his reputation as a greatman and heroics lives with him and after him. Today, we can't talk of the success of the Nigerian Army over Biafran secessionist without Adekunle name. His generation shall be proud.

Re: In Defence Of The South South And South East Political Choice by bayulll01(m): 3:54am On May 01, 2015

barcanista:
This thread is in response to the thread copied from ThisDay titled
"APC Zones Senate Presidency To N'central, Speaker To N'east"
https://www.nairaland.com/2263098/apc-zones-senate-presidency-ncentral
remain with the PDP, APC should live with it.

Funny thing about you is only a foool that takes you serious,you that you can betrays your mother becos of money,let me tell you one thing,the yorubas are to sophisticated to lick the assss of anybody,if u don't perform we kicked you out,we don't clouded our sense of reasoning babe on tribalism,religion and stupidiity,Rebrand your people over there come with better package maybe we will take you people serious by year 2015,I seriously believe you people can do better with that morron called jonadul,a region that produces the like of ken saro wiwa,donald duke,atedo peterside,common you are wise,on political affiliations you forget to realise politic is a game of number,you fight with the north,you hate the west,romance with ss and ss cannot take you to aso rock,so son of bitterness continue to whine

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