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starlingslimnet:
None is more important.... they are equally important.. So case is dismissed

OLAADEGBU:
Not so fast. What if I posit that we are not saved by faith, how will you go about dismissing that?

starlingslimnet:
I won't dismiss I had walk away as that is a plain Truth audible to the deaf and visible to the blind.

keandre:


without death,there will be no resurrection

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that if Jesus did not resurrect it won't matter for our salvation as long as He died?

starlingslimnet:
Are implying The death of Christ amounts to nothing?

OLAADEGBU:
What is more important, the death of Christ or His resurrection? How do both the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ play a role in our salvation?

deejay2x67:
it's obvious that you already know the answer

OLAADEGBU:
No. My question is which one is more important, His death or resurrection?

OLAADEGBU:
Both the death and resurrection of Christ is important but which is more important, do you know?

starlingslimnet:
My answer to your question is your question is wrong

OLAADEGBU:
Let me simplify my question into bite size. Would Jesus' death alone suffice for our salvation?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you then saying that His death is more important than his resurrection?

soye3:
his death is more important to me because it is by means of his shed blood I am able to be reconciled to God after having been alienated from him because of inherited sin from Adam and Eve. That is why my prayers can be heard because that blood serves as a cleaner.

His resurrection is also important because when he eventually starts rulling this world after cleaning it of all those ruining it, then I'll have a perfect ruler under the best conditions, with no need of voting in any human ruler . they are both wonderful to me. but his death, more important.

starlingslimnet:
What makes the word salvation?

keandre:
Yea,its said "By his death we are saved"

OLAADEGBU:
Deliverance from the power of darkness and translated into the kingdom of the dear Son of God.

starlingslimnet:
How is that possible?

OLAADEGBU:
It is possible by repenting from your sins and trusting in the finished work of Christ on the Cross. He died that we may be free from the law of sin and death and rose from the dead that we may live under the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

starlingslimnet:
You see now that both are equally important.. Case Closed

OLAADEGBU:
Not so fast. Present your case before you close it.

OLAADEGBU:
What is more important, the death of Christ or His resurrection? How do both the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ play a role in our salvation?

Adwexky:
The death of Christ and resurrection are complimentarily important.

OLAADEGBU:
What is more important, the death of Christ or His resurrection? How do both the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ play a role in our salvation?

Answer: The death and resurrection of Christ are equally important. Jesus’ death and resurrection accomplish separate but necessarily related things. The death and resurrection of our Lord are really inseparable, like the warp and weft of cloth.

The cross of Christ won for us the victory that we could never have won for ourselves. “Having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross” (Colossians 2:15). On the cross God piled our sins on Jesus, and He bore the punishment due us (Isaiah 53:4–8 ). In His death, Jesus took upon Himself the curse introduced by Adam (see Galatians 3:13).

With the death of Christ, our sins became powerless to rule over us (Romans 6). By His death, Jesus destroyed the works of the devil (John 12:31; Hebrews 2:14; 1 John 3:8 ), condemned Satan (John 16:11), and crushed the head of the serpent (Genesis 3:15).

Without the sacrificial death of Christ, we would still be in our sins, unforgiven, unredeemed, unsaved, and unloved. The cross of Christ is vital to our salvation and was thus a main theme of the apostles’ preaching (Acts 2:23, 36; 1 Corinthians 1:23; 2:2; Galatians 6:14).

But the story of Jesus Christ did not end with His death. The resurrection of Christ is also foundational to the gospel message. Our salvation stands or falls based on the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, as Paul makes clear in 1 Corinthians 15:12–19. If Christ is not physically risen from the dead, then we ourselves have no hope of resurrection, the apostles’ preaching was in vain, and believers are all to be pitied. Without the resurrection, we are still sitting “in darkness and in the shadow of death” waiting for the sunrise (Luke 1:78–79).

Because of Jesus’ resurrection, His promise holds true for us: “Because I live, you also will live” (John 14:19). Our great enemy, death, will be defeated (1 Corinthians 15:26, 54–55). Jesus’ resurrection is also important because it is through that event that God declares us righteous: Jesus “was raised to life for our justification” (Romans 4:25). The gift of the Holy Spirit was sent from the resurrected and ascended Lord Jesus (John 16:7).

At least three times in His earthly ministry, Jesus predicted that He would die and rise again after three days (Mark 8:31; 9:31; 10:34). If Jesus Christ had not been raised from the dead, He would have failed in His prophecies—He would have been yet another false prophet to be ignored. As it is, however, we have a living Lord, faithful to His Word. The angel at Jesus’ empty tomb was able to point to fulfilled prophecy: “He is not here; he has risen, just as he said” (Matthew 28:6).

Scripture links the death and resurrection of Christ, and we must maintain that link. Jesus’ entrance into the tomb is as equally important as His exit from the tomb. In 1 Corinthians 15:3–5, Paul defines the gospel as the dual truth that Jesus died for our sins (proved by His burial) and that He rose again the third day (proved by His appearances to many witnesses). This gospel truth is “of first importance” (verse 3).

It is impossible to separate the death of Christ from His resurrection. To believe in one without the other is to believe in a false gospel that cannot save. In order for Jesus to have truly arisen from the dead, He must have truly died. And in order for His death to have a true meaning for us, He must have a true resurrection. We cannot have one without the other.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/death-resurrection-Christ.html#ixzz3ZD3ELTpV

OLAADEGBU:
What is more important, the death of Christ or His resurrection? How do both the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ play a role in our salvation?

Firsthand evidence of Jesus' crucifixion is found in ancient Roman manuscript
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By STACY LIBERATORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
Published: 17:12, 27 March 2025 | Updated: 18:51, 27 March 2025

Ancient manuscripts detailing the events during the Roman Empire are believed to contain 'first hand' evidence about the life and death of Jesus Christ.

The Annals, written by the Roman historian Tacitus only 91 years after Jesus's death, begins with the death of Emperor Augustus in 14AD and finishes with Nero's suicide 54 years later.

In Book 15, the historian discusses the Great Fire of Rome in 54AD, shortly before Nero's death, which the emperor blamed on a class 'called Christians.'

The second sentence reads: 'Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus.'

'Christus,' the Latin version of 'Christ,' means 'the Anointed One' or 'the Messiah,' and comes from the Hebrew word Mashiach (Messiah).

The Bible's New Testament states that Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of Judea, sentenced Jesus to death by crucifixion.

Tacitus discusses the persecution of Christ's followers, who were spreading into Rome from Judaea, writing how 'an arrest was made of all who pleaded guilty to being Christian.'

'Covered with the skins of wild beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired,' the passage reads.

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A book featuring ancient Rome's history includes a passage that discusses the death of Jesus

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The Annals, written by the Roman historian Tacitus around 91AD, begins with the death of Emperor Augustus in 14AD and finishes with Nero's suicide 54 years later

As the Bible tells it, 2,021 years ago a child named Jesus was born in a little-known town on the edge of the Roman Empire and was killed 33 years later.

While most scholars agree he was a real person, there is significant debate about his divinity.

They suggest Jesus' teachings about love and forgiveness and his brutal death led his followers to form a new faith that became Christianity.

While the manuscripts have long been known, the details in them recently surfaced online and have been welcomed by those of Christian faith.

Tacitus, whose full name was Publius Cornelius Tacitus, lived from around 56AD to 120AD and was widely regarded to have been among the most important Roman historians.

While the manuscripts have long been known, the details in them recently surfaced online and have been welcomed by those of

He relied on official records, Senate proceedings and firsthand accounts to compile The Annals, which is known for its critical and sometimes cynical perspective on Roman politics as he did not shy away from deemed emperors as corrupt and tyrants.

The Bible states that Jesus was arrested by Roman soldiers following the Last Supper and taken before Annas, the former high priest.

He was then tried by the current high priest, Caiaphas, in front of the Jewish supreme governing council and court where he was condemned for blasphemy.

Because the court and high priest did not the power to order a death sentence, Jesus was taken to Pilate.

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Tacitus, whose full name was Publius Cornelius Tacitus, lived from around 56AD to 120AD and was widely regarded to have been among the most important Roman historians

Luke 23:16-24 states that Pilate was hesitant to sentence Jesus to death, saying 'nothing this man has done to deserve death. So I will have him whipped and let him go.'

However, the crowd erupted in anger, screaming 'Kill him.'

After shouting Jesus had not committed a crime three times, Pilate gave into the crowd's request and 'passed the sentence on Jesus that they were asking for.'

And Tacitus shared some of these details in The Annals.

The passage, however, focused more on the events that had followed, specifically Christ's followers moving into Rome .

The first persecution of Christians organized by the Roman government was under Nero who ruled about 21 to 24 years after Jesus' crucifixion.

Nero used the Great Fire of Rome as part of his plan to stop the faith from spreading.

The Great Fire of Rome began on July 19, 64 AD, likely started in shops near the Circus Maximus, filled with flammable goods, and spread rapidly due to strong winds and the city's flammable, densely packed construction.

The fire raged for six days and seven nights, destroying or damaging 10 of Rome's 14 districts, according to researchers at Ohio State University.

And the blaze killed hundreds, left thousands homeless and devastated two-thirds of Rome.

At the time, the Roman Empire was worshiping gods and adding more foreign deities into its religious system and some historians have speculated that the influx of Christians appeared as a threat.

Tacitus wrote how Nero falsely blamed Christians, setting his plan in motion.

'Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace,' the passage reads.

Those arrested were crucified in Nero's lavish gardens as to 'exhibit as as show in the circus.'

'He mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer, or stood in a chariot, or as if he were a performer, or as a spectator of the cruel games,' Tacitus described.

'Hence, even for the present time, though the superstition had been checked for a while, it had broken out once more and gained ground, not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome itself.'

Another historian, Flavius Josephus, wrote a book about Jewish history, featuring a passage that reads: 'Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.'

Flavius was a Jewish historian who later became a Roman citizen. He lived from 37 to around 100 AD.

Testimonium Flavianum is part of The Antiquities of the Jews, which features 20 books detailing the history of the region and Jews, starting with the Old Testament up to the Jewish War.

In Testimonium Flavianum, he writes: 'Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship.

'They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive.

'Accordingly, he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.'

However, some scholars have dismissed the writings, saying it is a late Christian forgery.

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