₦airaland Forum

lezz:
you mean segregated university? official repport today says black SA literacy level rate is 34/35%.

Today SA government has reduced pass mark to 30% to reflect the ever rising decay in all your institutions from education to health,to infrastructure.


you are living under the anglo-dutch hype.

#XENOPHOBICSA

Dragonking:
What a shame South Africa!!!

mzilakazi:
I am directly criticising Mugabe because he is a contributing factor to the socioeconomic problems of South Africa. Millions of Zimbabweans were pushed to South Africa by Mugabe's security forces, some without blankets or food. I have already lashed out on people who perpetrate xenophobic attacks in South Africa. Apparently, the Zulu king complained about the city which he once known as the cleanest in South Africa in KwaZulu Natal, which has now turned into garbage bin by illegal immigrants. However, there is a sense into that, because every city in South Africa has become dirty since the arrival of millions of illegal foreigners. Still, that did not grant people the right to loot and assault foreigners.

Foreigners might be successful in doing business et al, but they have a serious problem in keeping the cities clean. They dump everywhere and have changed the whole cities into jungles. Look at Hillbrow, which was once known to be the beautiful place in Johannesburg. As current only few South Africans live there and the rest are foreigners. The place is so dirty such that it looks scary to walk about. It is now renamed Lagos of South Africa. If only foreigners can learn how to maintain the buildings of flats they occupy in the cities of South Africa.

mzilakazi:
There had been lot of grievous incidence in Africa where Africans butchered on other Africans for competition of resources, yet South Africa had never lashed out on anyone of even caused an uproar for the closure of consulates. We remained supportive throughout. Now, many African countries after having failed on their part to give jobs to their people, some even tortured them and kick them out of their borders, today have big months to cry xenophobia.

mzilakazi:
Does segregation matter when it comes to literacy. Segregation you find it everywhere, it may be by colour, economic status or tribe. Why do we have private and public schools today?

SA literacy is officially over 80% and your estimation is drunk because is very seldom you will meet a South African who cannot read or write, dummy. Majority are those who are nearing their grave now are who are considered illiterate in SA. Still it does not change the fact that South African literacy level is higher than that of Nigeria.

South African education system is considered to be the toughest as compared to that of other African countries, that was the reason why the pass mark was lowered. South African student would not need to upgrade to study in England or USA. They are granted direct admission from start. Thank you.

lezz:
You still didnt point to any incident. but let me help you.

in 1960s or thereabouts, during the nkuruma regime ghana had it good economically and nigerians migrated there. and when they had enogh they asked all illegal immigrants to leave simple.

in the 1980s ghanaians were all over nigeria and we simply asked all illigal immigrants to leave. we even ferried some off. they carried their belongings.
mind, this was the government taking legal measures and due process.it was same in uganda

south africa is a completely different ball game. locals and citizens launched a premeditated violence and looting of shops and business of foreigners with police watching for a week long now this is UNPRECEDENTED.

this is xenophobia by example. that's why the whole of africa is after you. that is why the BBC call SA a ticking time bomb.

that's why your country just closed its embassy in nigeria now. the fear is real. south africa is a walking, breathing shame

tunderino:
There u go again saying foreigners are the reason Hillbrow is dirty. You fail to say its your black south Africans doing. The white who clean the cities ran away after indepence cos ur zulu asses started mugging and robbing them in broad daylight. And they mess up the whole place. Most of the Buildings in Johannesburg CBD were Hijacked not by foreigners but locals. Ever before foreigners started to flock in there. Buy up some units flats and buildings. Today you can walk freely in Hillbrow cos its mostly dominated by foreigners.In Areas dominated by Locals a foreigner is not save there and its common knowledge. Thats why foreigners tend to stay together to protect themselves from hostile south africans like you. Looking to put blames of your country on immigrants instead of dealing with it. Hillbrow and the Johannesburg CBD became dirty as a result of the whites abandoning there buildings and u locals encroaching on it. NOT FOREIGNERS!!! Its better and saver for foreigners to live among white SAns than Blacks.

[b]Your cities became dirty as a result of your corrupt government not cos of the immigrants. The government pays the Pikit up not the immigrants. Best immigrants can do is pay for the services they use and none is given free. The Whites kept the country clean when they were in government. its not foreigners sleeping around on the street and hijacking people its your locals. Dont blame us for every misfortune rather address it with ur government. Is it foreigners that are living in Jeppe Hostel in Jeppestown? All the building there has been hijacked by u locals and abandoned by the whites. Your Government knows this but turn a blind eye to it. Maboneng group is trying to clean up the place but your locals wont allow. The place is dirty and ridden with guns and armed robbers. Yet you blame foreigners for every problems in you lives. No Wive its foreigners - Or is it foreigners that are raping ur ladies.
No free Houses its foreigners
Town is dirty its foreigners
No electricity its foreigners
No grants its foreigners
No good roads its foreigners
No water its foreigners
No Jobs its foreigners
[/b]

mzilakazi:
I do not want to point to crime to humanities which have been eating Africa for ages from genocide, religious war, xenophobia, etc which South Africa cannot be singled out from those grievous incidents.

South Africans do not need to upgrade to be admitted to study in the US or UK, Fact.

However, they are free to make personal opinion about the education of Nigerians which they see as the best, but still they would need an upgrade to study in the countries I have mentioned above.

Perhaps South Africans learnt it from.

#GHANAMUSTGO

tunderino:
MR MDU..I guess u are a kid cos if you are not. As you have refused to educate yourself voluntarily. i will school you. Nigeria has been holding elections as far back as 1959. Ever before there was military rule or ABACHA. Even before Mandela was jailed not to talk of becoming preside. see the link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Nigerian_history

Ballot papers made in SA were paid for and not supplied free of charged by SA. It was not a gift. Nigerian government only used the services of south african companies. Yes Nigeria did not attend afcon 1996 cos u hosted it and mandela was president. But did u know we went to USA same year and won football in the Olympics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria_at_the_1996_Summer_Olympics
the fact that we didnt attend afcon didnt even have any effect or move ABACHA so just forget the ABACHA era story. Nigeria was under sanctions from the whole world. And it didnt move the leader. It was the poor Masses that suffered from the sanctions and the denials. It was not as if u guys gave supplies to the Masses or sent money to the opposition leaders then. Like we did in ur own case. Yes there are many countries that played a part in SA liberation. I mentioned Ethiopia if u were not too blind by ur big headedness to read that part. Mind you i didnt claim nigeria was the biggest. But u make light the contributions that was made by other african countries with ur remarks. You see everyone as competition when really no one is competing with you. Nigeria has been called giant of africa long before your independence. and its not because of its economy but population. Read it here cos i know u dont know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria
We are not jealous of south africas economy but rather strive to make ourselves better. Ever since Nigeria has been named largest economy in Africa which the masses are not even kin about. We just want good facilities from them like its available in south africa. Who the hell cares about biggest economy when people are suffering.

You south africans have started to bring up polices to punish other Africans in ur country instead of addressing mismanagement by your leaders. There is mismanagement in almost all African countries but non has ever killed foreigners for it. In Nigeria we die and fight our leaders for mismanagement and corruption but not the foreigners like ur blood sucking south africans. Likewise in other countries all over the world people protect and welcome foreigners.

WHere is the spirit of UBUNTU READ about that word here before you make further comments cos i doubt u know it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)

Cos if you know anything about that word. you wont be talking about illegal immigration and ll know humanity is about sharing. For years humans migrate and settle in different parts of the world. Living and sharing makes us humans and not animals. 'A person is a person through other people'

Now for the Link you requested to expose you shame and know that south africa is not the country with the highest number of illegal immigrants see here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration
In india it cant be estimated. In US, close to 20 million or even more but they found a way to legalise them. Even in Nigeria we dont know how much as we lack the database. Never has it been said that foreigners should be killed except in south africa by the king and presidents son.
Every country has the right to tighten its borders and deal with it. But not by killing people like your folks have been doing several times before now. Nigeria atittude u refer to is only natural and not murderous. We may flaunt what we have and be proud of who we are. Thats self confidence so get some. Obviously u lack it. Your inferiority complex is what is making u turn to foreigners and kill them when u cant even face the whites who refuse to employ your lazy ass. Even your President knows best not t make an enemy of Nigeria as it will lead to your economic doom. Do you think SA companies are moving to Nigeria to play or what. When they are struggling to pay salaries here ; they are making bastard money in Nigeria. Nigeria being on UN security council is a feet south africa is yet to achieve. And being in the UN is not a joke if u take that lightly ask GADAFI in his grave. U say pushing policies through in the UN is Hide and seek obviously and talkingto a semi illiterate here. The Aparthied Regime bowed to the UN and sactions from the rest of the world. Cos the Government is back by businesses and when the businessmen dont find policies favorable they pressure the leaders to succumb. Like Zuma has got calls from Businessmen whose businesses sustain south africa to put u zulus in order. Else it will a far more disastrous impact on u south africans. Illegal Immigration will be the least of your problems. The fact that you talk about my country men being singled out in future shows your intentions that you are also in support of xenophobia and that Africa has not seen the end of it. You and your family will fall victim of the next one since that what you wish others.
Shameless Arrogant Bastard. You are even proud to say such. And some foolish Zulu idiots are supporting you. I know the fact that Mandela is not ZULU and most ZULU dont even like him. Cos you belief he sold your birth right. But the world respects him for that. I know not all south africans are bad. But most ZUlus will always say they are not Mandela. Yes you are not and you can never have his spirit. You guys are pure murderers simple and clear.

mzilakazi:
At first no South Africans are living in Hillbrow and many places in South African cities considered to be dirty. South Africans live in townships and suburbs have you forgot?

Ask why Hillbrow is now called Lagos.

http://www.citypress.co.za/features/proudly-south-african-nigerian/

MduZA:
thanx for educating me with lies ...i don't expect you to agree with me in anything but I will always be here to give you news that you don't want to hear...south Africa boycotted the Abacha regime,she was involved in your first democratic elections (1999)....returning favour to a sister country which was playing hide and seek via the UN...Mandela was a black south African,you will only have him as a Nigerian in your imagination, People like abacha know how sour he was ,they can give a different version of his description...the igbo Yoruba thing is uniquely Nigerian therefore dont project your tribal tendency on us...all black south Africans fought together to attain freedom..they are now working together to build their country without threatening each other like what is transpiring in another west African country..you are now crying about south Africa s policies,so you want our government to loosen them so that your country men can do as they please..watch the space after these attacks,thousands and thousands of your people are coming back to Nigeria,out of 800 000 Nigerians in SA,only 17000 are here with proper documentation...we are going to breath fresh air.....Lezz this comment is dedicated to you and all Nigerians selling drugs in SA..

Mdu

tunderino:
I doubt if u ever choose to learn. But i ll teach you again. To say no south african in Hillbrow shows you are a numskull and know noting about ur environment and Neither did u even choose to learn. Educate yourself from the Link below about Hillbrow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbrow

See quotes from page.

Demographics
According to the South African National Census of 2001, 49,605 people lived in Hillbrow.

95.6% were Black African, 2.5% Coloured, 1.5% White and 0.4% Indian or Asian.

43.8% spoke Zulu, 10.8% Northern Sotho, 8.8% Xhosa, 6.9% Tswana, 5.7% English, 4.8% Venda, 4.7% Southern Ndebele, 4.7% Sotho, 3.6% Tsonga, 2.2% Afrikaans, 1.2% Swazi and 2.9% some other language as their first language.

More than half of hillbrow is dominated by Zulus. Nigerians and other nationals own shops in hillbrow doesnt mean thats where nigerians live. They own clubs there for night live and keep the place alive. But you zulu boys among them seize very opportunity they have to rob them in the dark.

tunderino:
[b]MDU now u have shown u are really a numskull. By saying WIKIPEDIA lies. [/b]U asked for links and i gave you. you asked for proofs of our elections and i gave you. we have been having elections before the 60's and before you were born. But your zulu gay brain will not allow you to accept. You keep talking about abacha seems thats the time u got to start listening to the news. Nigerians never seek help from anyone for independence neither do we owe u anything so we can speak freely. As opposed to other Nations around you who sole depend on your country for one facility or the other. Whether you like to hear it or not. We are you big brothers in Africa. And we are ready to fight for all those african countries who cant raise there voice against you f&^king murderers. Nigerians in SA made a mistake they must come back home and relocate to USA or UK. We have more Nigerian leaving there than in SA under far better conditions. You guys dont qualify for be called Africans. You lack home training and u ll learn it here.

I never mentions Igbos or Yorubas in my statements i said Nigerians Flaunt yes we do. But am sure u bearly read what i wrote. U only reply and digress from every point i answer by raising another issue. u calling 1999 1st elections for us repeatedly shows u know nothing.

Dragonking:
@tunderino and @Lezz , you guys simply nailed it on the head. Welldone guys

lezz:
South africans always use Nigeria as the yardstick to gauge their personal and national progress. that's why they dont let up, own up or ever tell the truth.
they will keep shifting the goal post to have the last say or twist facts to appear better..

MduZA:
thanx for educating me with lies ...i don't expect you to agree with me in anything but I will always be here to give you news that you don't want to hear...south Africa boycotted the Abacha regime,she was involved in your first democratic elections (1999)....returning favour to a sister country which was playing hide and seek via the UN...Mandela was a black south African,you will only have him as a Nigerian in your imagination, People like abacha know how sour he was ,they can give a different version of his description...the igbo Yoruba thing is uniquely Nigerian therefore dont project your tribal tendency on us...all black south Africans fought together to attain freedom..they are now working together to build their country without threatening each other like what is transpiring in another west African country..you are now crying about south Africa s policies,so you want our government to loosen them so that your country men can do as they please..watch the space after these attacks,thousands and thousands of your people are coming back to Nigeria,out of 800 000 Nigerians in SA,only 17000 are here with proper documentation...we are going to breath fresh air.....Lezz this comment is dedicated to you and all Nigerians selling drugs in SA..

Mdu

mzilakazi:
Chief, I live in South Africa and wikipedia theories will never teach me about Hillbrow. Since the influx of foreigners in SA we have seen avalanche of foreigners inhabiting the area en mass. Hillbrow is predominantly occupied by foreigners and that's a real fact you won't change by posting wikipedia skewed information.

PunkyOh:
Projection.

lezz:
he is an ignorant, tactless troll who doesn't even know what is happening in south africa..

lezz:
the bush, camps and prison he used was a figurative speech which was meant to reflect soweto and the entire black neighbour hood of informal education and mass iliteracy. of course there were pockets of blacks who went to school by scholarship from african countries. i repeat , those number doesnt change the impression. SA blacks are still behind even today(35%) ..

the xenophobic savagery is a telling example

have you trended today? have you raised your voice against xenophobia today?

#XENOPHOBICSA

mzilakazi:
I am directly criticising Mugabe because he is a contributing factor to the socioeconomic problems of South Africa. Millions of Zimbabweans were pushed to South Africa by Mugabe's security forces, some without blankets or food. I have already lashed out on people who perpetrate xenophobic attacks in South Africa. Apparently, the Zulu king complained about the city which he once known as the cleanest in South Africa in KwaZulu Natal, which has now turned into garbage bin by illegal immigrants. However, there is a sense into that, because every city in South Africa has become dirty since the arrival of millions of illegal foreigners. Still, that did not grant people the right to loot and assault foreigners.

Foreigners might be successful in doing business et al, but they have a serious problem in keeping the cities clean. They dump everywhere and have changed the whole cities into jungles. Look at Hillbrow, which was once known to be the beautiful place in Johannesburg. As current only few South Africans live there and the rest are foreigners. The place is so dirty such that it looks scary to walk about. It is now renamed Lagos of South Africa. If only foreigners can learn how to maintain the buildings of flats they occupy in the cities of South Africa.

lezz:
FACT!!
!

lezz:
Before apartheid, SOWETO used to be the slum of africa. well not anymore, since the ANC made sure they change and save face.
Now after independence, Khayelitsha, takes that position as the 2nd biggest slum in africa.

South africa is estimated to house about 2 million foreigners according to the BBC. and if you say they are the cause of south africa's slums, i say that's being arogant and giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it.

SA and slums dont ever part company, not before 1994 and not after.

as a matter of fact, the dutch walled and fenced the city off kleinfontein to keep ZULUS and BANTUS off till this very day. not even a black south african police can venture inside that gated city of Kleinfontein.

and as XHOSA and TSWANA blacks are moving into jburg, whites are scampering into Sandton suburb.

There are lots of west africans and asians in nigeria and we dont aportion blame to them.
we take responsibility when things go wrong.

please trend still #XENOPHOBICSA

mzilakazi:
That's a lie, even during apartheid Soweto was never a slum, not at all. South Africa built free houses from the dark ages of apartheid. The free housing scheme did not started with ANC, even the bad Boers built millions of free houses to citizens of SOUTH AFRICA. slums were not allowed then, because there was a forceful removal policy where you would see bulldozers ravaging the shanties of people. Not even a single person would have tried it, not at all.

lezz:
this is what i call desperate trolling. stop embarrassing yourself and country by mentioning 1999. you are a disgrace.

your little brain and zombie desperation cannot rewrite history. South Africa cannot and will never be nentioned in our history. it is that simple.

history will always remember us fighting for you and giving you a helping hand in your must trying moment.
this all ish is derailment but when you talk about Yoruba/ibo stuffs you only make laugh.

the foremost reason the anglo-dutch used to justify apartheid is that you are a bunch of savages who turn on each other, the zulu cant stand the xhosa and the bantu cant stomach the tswana.

your tribalism was what the whiteman used to justify apartheid.

#XENOPHOBICSA

lezz:
That doctored report by ANC is misleading,my boy.

they dont reflect the reality on ground. let me ask you? did south african government not reduce pass mark to 30% ? lol. Your answer will judge for you.

mind you the definition of literacy varies and is transcient. but answer the question..

MduZA:
lol...you owe us nothing...?in your initial comment you were singing a cry-foul song saying that south Africa is not doing anything for the people who helped during apartheid regime..am telling u what south Africa has done,is doing..all you can say is we don't owe you anything..i was not expecting such a comment from you,what is it that Nigeria can offer south Africa,?tell me one thing... Dont tell me news from WIKMEDIA..that blog is accessible and editable....after chasing all igbos from Lagos,they are welcome in SA,with proper documentation this time around...UK anD US are also overwhelmed ,why can't you intelligent people build your country..forget about becoming refugees in foreign lands..you got a country called Nigeria to live in...

tunderino:
You just cant quit. you keep showing your foolishness. Your dont even know whats happening in south africa and want to be commenting on nigeria politics. Let me tell you what u dont know Igbos have there own dominating areas in Lagos and living there for years. They are even contesting and winning elections in lagos. And yes u say they are drug peddlers yet when i address that u now say they are welcome. You are obviously confused. There are no Nigerians that can enter SA without proper documentation so get that into you thick skull. We get visas and fly in Planes. I doubt if your has even has a passport or ever even taken a plane ride before. Nigerians will make a living anywhere in the world and am proud of that. Your zulu ass will never understand civilization is about people moving around the world and improving lives and cultures by living together. If you want to know what Nigeria can do for u Ask ZUMA and Mbeki. its a complete waste of time arguing with you. The Billions your country is making from Nigeria alone is enough to pay lots of grant for your lazy zulu raping and murderous criminals.

Let me tell you something new. Nigeria will make sure all that was lost by Nigerians in the attacks are refunded by your govt. We dont take shit from anyone least of all SOUTH AFRICANS.... if u doubt its read your local blogs and i can help with a link. http://www.enca.com/africa/nigeria-protests-south-africa-over-anti-immigrant-attacks

Costs has been estimated to about R2million and your govt will pay it as a penalty. Thank your lucky stars that Nigerian lives was not lost. If Emmanuel Sithole was Nigerian then SA will be like the woman who grows too big for her underwear as she ll soon dance NAKED.

Nigerians are building Nigeria and its economy is growing again after years of set backs. But it doesn't stop us from travelling the world. We have been building it since 1960 alone without the help of the whites and will continue to do so.

lezz:
You still didnt point to any incident. but let me help you.

in 1960s or thereabouts, during the nkuruma regime ghana had it good economically and nigerians migrated there. and when they had enogh they asked all illegal immigrants to leave simple.

in the 1980s ghanaians were all over nigeria and we simply asked all illigal immigrants to leave. we even ferried some off. they carried their belongings.
mind, this was the government taking legal measures and due process.it was same in uganda

south africa is a completely different ball game. locals and citizens launched a premeditated violence and looting of shops and business of foreigners with police watching for a week long now this is UNPRECEDENTED.

this is xenophobia by example. that's why the whole of africa is after you. that is why the BBC call SA a ticking time bomb.

that's why your country just closed its embassy in nigeria now. the fear is real. south africa is a walking, breathing shame

PunkyOh:
Sometimes I don't get how some of you reason. You always talk about jet setting & yet most of you are still assbackwards in your thinking. What are you exactly learning in these countries you boast about visiting?

FYI, no South African cares about going to other countries because 1)we have the entire globe on our doorstep & 2)there's no place like home & we don't get why other people will brag about visiting/living in another man's land. To us that is similar to being a beggar. You can talk about whatever place you've visited in the world & it'll mean absolutely nothing to us. We're not impressed. Period. South Africans of all races are well known for their dislike of travelling because we prefer home. Even white South Africans look down on other whites who move to other countries because it simply doesn't make sense to us when people leave their homes.