mzilakazi:
@PunkyOh- are you an astrologer? perhaps just only interested in it.

PunkyOh:


I'm into Astrology yes, but I'm not an Astrologer lol.

Btw, I just mentioned you on another issue about what one of our ministers supposedly have said. Just wanted to hear your views & opinion.

mzilakazi:



Can you be more elaborative on that subject? I seem to have lost my track.

PunkyOh:


The minister of small businesses or whatever, supposedly said, foreigners should share their business success secrets with South Africans so South Africans, I guess, could be equipped with skill. I'm suspicious of the story though because people here like to lie & make up stories.

mzilakazi:



Well, in that regard we will have to wait and see. However, I will not be in any position to comment on this matter since these reports have not been verified yet. I will conduct my own personal research to investigate if there was such a claim and brief you just in few minutes.

lezz:
DANGOTE IS NOT A COMPANY? LOL.

YOU MUST BE CLOWNING. SHOW ME A BLACK NON BEE COMPANY THAT IS COMPETETIVE IN AFRICA..

MduZA:


1.Nigerians and other Africans need not to be reminded about south Africa s role in conflict resolution around the continent,Nigerians in particular need not to forget the role played by south Africa in getting rid of the Abacha regime

2.South Africa is the only country in the world hosting over 6million illegal immigrants,majority of these people are jobless ...south Africans are compelled to share limited resources with all people who are in the country illegally and legally..

3.south Africa has been so kind as her boarders are widely opened even for ordinary people from all over the continent,therefore for you to crucify the leadership of this country because of barbaric acts by few low class citizens,your are naive ...i would understand your crucifixion if these attacks were carried out by the majority with the support of the government...thats not the case

4.Causes of xenophobia in SA
(a)limited resources
(b)attitude of foreigners (exclusive to Nigerians)
(c)cheap labour and
(d)involvement of foreign nationals in illegal activities e.g fraud and crimes

5.finally, the government of south Africa and its people strongly condemn these attacks ,those who live in this country can attest that indeed south Africans are working hand in hand to bring the situation back to normal...unfortunately the haters of SA are utilizing these unfortunate occurrences to show their hidden xenophobia..

my name is Mduduzi...this is my personal opinion

tunderino:



POINT OF CORRECTION:
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1. ABACHA DIED. So i don't think you know what you are saying about South Africa helping to get rid of Abacha. Or are you the ones that poisoned him? Mandela advised him but was asked to shut up and face his own country problems if you don't know that. Even Pope John Paul was rubbished in the presence of Abacha. It is not proven but Abacha is said to have been poisoned due to political assassination carried out by the USA all over the world. So get that clear before you start to fan ur ego. Also Nigeria has been the greatest Big Brother in Africa in terms of conflict resolutions. I doubt if u know anything about ECOMOG SOLDIERS . South Africa is yet to do half of what we have done not to talk of stepping into our shoes. If you dont know it get this straight today. We trained most of your generals. Nigeria has crisis cos of its military leaders but doesnt mean u can step into its shoes. ur country is less that 25years old but Nigeria has been involved in peace keeping for more than those years.

2. South Africa is not the only country in the world hosting over 6 million illegal immigrants. visit wikipedia and educate yourself before you get a big head. India has tens of millions of illegal immigrants followed by the United States of america with over 12 million. There is no growing economy without illegal immigrants. Even Nigeria used to have so many till our economy was destroyed by our leaders. The fact u say u are compelled to share with others shows how greedy and hostile south africans can be. Most of this people are your neighbors who didn't mind sharing with you when you had problems. But what u can do is bit the fingers that fed you. Even indians with largest illegal immigrants have not been killing foreigners. Neither is it happening in the USA or UK where even the highest number of prisoners are foreigners. But you south Africans make African appear as REAL MONKEYS. You are a shame to Africa.

3. Yes the leadership gets the glory when its good and the blame when it bad. it is what it is all over the world. I suggest you go back and watch the parliamentary meeting last Thursday. All your ministers and Most MP's could talk about was illegal immigration while people are dying. That was there prepared speech in response to xenophobia. While some were bold enough to indicate the king incited this violence and should be corrected. Many came out to depend the gay who has no respect for other Africans. Did you know the Ethiopian King played host to your leaders and gave them shelter and arrangements for them to travel around with fake passports. That shows a contrast with what your ZULU king has done. The fact that your leaders are willing to spend R118m to deport foreigners shows how hostile you guys are and ur support for the expulsion of immigrants. one man can be a majority and ur badwill king and some members of parliament are more than one man if i may say. they constitute majority. like i said before. it has been discussed in the Kings council before it came out.

4. Causes of Xenophobia in SA
a. the resources is enough to share but u are greedy and immigrants are not the ones to provide that GET THAT?? they dont get grants, free houses, bursaries or any support from ur government. But they do pay tax one way or another and support ur people as well. they pay electricity, water and others. they just want to make a living.

b. attitude of foreigners (exclusive to Nigerians) - While u may not like nigerians cos some are loud and know how to flaunt and spend their money. its not a reason for Xenophobia. Nigerians are in all parts of the world and the only place they are been killed as foreigners is here in africa and south africa for that matter. It is not a hidden fact that the reason most south african dont even do business is because u south africans cant even stand each others success. you even envy your own citizens when there small scale business prosper and find a way to destroy it. i know many locals that have experienced that. Its in your blood. Africans were only blind to see that. But it is who you are.

c. Cheap labor does not justify murder and its all over the world that immigrants work for less while they try to get legalised. its same in Europe, America and Asia. Even in many other African countries.

d. CRIME - Like i said before; foreigners constitute the highest number of prisoners in the UK. They were not killed cos of their crimes. But in SA you cant deny your own people are worst criminals than any other African country and have the highest murder rate in Africa and among top ten in the world. So there are more local criminals than foreigners that should be addressed. I suggest you visit ur prisons to educate yourself before u start saying foreigners are involved in crime. The % is very low cmpared to your locals.

If uk could have more foreigner criminals than locals and have not been killing them. then you should simply accept your people are killers and need to be educated. Even you are more likely to get shot in the street by ur own people than an illegal immigrant in India.


5. While ur government officials are now coming out against this act. Dont forget their Lackadaisical attitude to it in the first place till threats started coming in from all parts of the world. They know they ll be isolated like the Apartheid regime. and ur economy will go down the drain. they those jobs even the one u have now will be gone. Foreigners will leave and those murderers will have no choice but to turn and attack people like you. and your leaders as well. They fear what will happen to people like you not because they have compassion on the people been killed. They try as much as possible to cover up many stories in SA. But cos the whites are majorly against this. the news is spreading like wildfire. Black South Africans are a disgrace to Mandela and the rest of Africa.

MR Mduduzi your opinion is noted. But shows you still need to be schooled. So dont come here and try to argue your way out but join the rest of your folks to seek the forgiveness of Africans. As we ll not soon forget ur ungrateful gestures neither will the families of those who lost precious ones ever will.

LeSudAfricaine:
Very well articulated Mdu

kingjoo:

Just stop!!. this is just about the same reason the SA are killing others. unguided statement is much more dangerous than a lighter in a gas station. Let's preach love and with it conquer the forces of hate and evil. one love

mzilakazi:



Company is a group of people venturing into business together. Dangote is just a one man's business or how do you understand the concept of company?

I told you all South African company have to comply with BEE as a government policy to do business as well as to be registered in South African database of companies. So, I don't know which company will you get now that does not comply with BEE in SA. Maybe you are ignorant of a BEE policy. Do not just use the word if you do not understand what does it mean.

lezz:
ignorant and loud mouthed lots who know nothing about the rest of africa ..

mzilakazi:


That narrative might have been written but is entirely untrue. There was no way that your money could have reached South Africans on the ground since apartheid forces by the use of intelligence guarded everything, from banks to borders. Nigeria could not have spend that lot of money because their entire budget was not even close to those figures even today in the year 2015, it has not gone any closer.

Nigeria itself was still under military rule abusing its citizen's human rights. I will have to agree that they provided military training to some of the ANC's MK militants and also dole out some donations extracted from the workers who voluntarily pledged their support, however, the financial support was not sufficient. Your support is sometimes exaggerated for political gain. The ANC got most of the financial help from Britain and the USSR.

About the people of SA, internally, unfortunately nobody could offer them help, not even the UN could do so. The apartheid government ensured that they blocked any help the black people could receive abroad, even people travelling overseas had to be smuggled. The blacks were left with no chance but to protest and suffered loss of life. The struggle of apartheid was fought to greater extent by the youth of South Africa and truly so, the apartheid was defeated by the people of South Africa. This my friend is the truth and not the lies told by the media and some members of the ANC intended to aggrandize their involvement.

LeSudAfricaine:
Speak for yourself

mikron:
Thank u bro, u really hit home with those links, unfortunately only ignorant South Africans always show their ignorance when we tell them naija is their big brother and greatly influenced the end to the apartheid era in their country. matters of Nigeria helping them fight apartheid is not new to us but them denying our input is shameful and wicked.

Dragonking:

Dont mind them, they dont want to accept the truth.

Dragonking:


The prefer to slave themselves to the whites. One of them is even praising the whites for saving them.

MduZA:




yes indeed Abacha died but that did not stop south Africa to interfere in your affairs,if you may recall the super eagles did not participate in the 1996 afcon because Mandela was on Abacha s neck.....your first democratic elections ballot papers were designed and printed in SA,SA independent electoral commission played a major role in those elections...clearly south Africa was helping Nigeria to transform herself from military rule into democracy,I know you will never acknowledge this because Nigerians always want to be seen as giants, there are many African countries that played major roles in the struggle of black south Africans..we know them unlike some people from a country which only played hide and seek via the UN,they are now claiming the glory...i told you the causes of xenophobia in SA,you are still showing unnecessary arrogance by giving me your Nigerian perspective....note that am not justifying anything but all those four things I mentioned as causes need to be addressed by our government,failing to do so will result to business as usual...finally can you direct me to a link with information about countries with over 6million ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS except SA..remember Nigerians attitude is another factor contributing to xenophobia in SA...dont be surprised when your country men get singled out in future...let this truth not hurt you

MDU

mzilakazi:
Xenophobia should be blamed on Africa in general. Why so mny African countries are failing to manage their citizens and provide them with jobs and better service? Today, the likes of the Mugabes have big mouth, yet they could not see anything wrong when his government was torturing millions of Zimbabweans and as a result pushing them to other countries particularly South Africa. His actions has caused problems today and he is not even ashamed to spit out such nonsense which is the result of his actions on his people. Mugabe has created this situation by dumping the problems of his country to others to deal with.

Shame on you, Robert Mugabe.

lezz:
lol, did you see the definition of what a company is suppose to be given by a south african here? these people have complex issue..

lezz:
lol, did you see the definition of what a company is suppose to be given by a south african here? these people have complex issue..

Dragonking:


Serious complex issues. i was amazed and also highly disappointed when one was even praising the british here( the same people that enslaved them in the first place). Many dont even know that Nigeria boycotted the common wealth games then to show our support for the freedom of our SA brothers but we get tongue lashed while the slave masters(white british) get the praises by south africans.

mzilakazi:



Nobody is perfect. Hope you still remember the action you took against the Ghanaians which was fully supported by your government. Was that not xenophobia?

Mandela personally suspended Nigeria from Commonwealth through his influence in support of the freedom of the people of Nigeria. He called for democracy in Nigeria which today we see reigning.

MduZA:




yes indeed Abacha died but that did not stop south Africa to interfere in your affairs,if you may recall the super eagles did not participate in the 1996 afcon because Mandela was on Abacha s neck.....your first democratic elections ballot papers were designed and printed in SA,SA independent electoral commission played a major role in those elections...clearly south Africa was helping Nigeria to transform herself from military rule into democracy,I know you will never acknowledge this because Nigerians always want to be seen as giants, there are many African countries that played major roles in the struggle of black south Africans..we know them unlike some people from a country which only played hide and seek via the UN,they are now claiming the glory...i told you the causes of xenophobia in SA,you are still showing unnecessary arrogance by giving me your Nigerian perspective....note that am not justifying anything but all those four things I mentioned as causes need to be addressed by our government,failing to do so will result to business as usual...finally can you direct me to a link with information about countries with over 6million ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS except SA..remember Nigerians attitude is another factor contributing to xenophobia in SA...dont be surprised when your country men get singled out in future...let this truth not hurt you

MDU

WHere is the spirit of UBUNTU

lezz:
mugabe did not kill and loot the shops of foreigners.this is the 3rd xenophobic attack in southafrica's history.

mugabe's white folks who migrated to south africa did not kill and loot hard working foreigners.

your zulu brothers did.it is shame on south africans . And shame on you for trying to put sand in our eyes.

join us in trending #XENOPHOBICSA

lezz:
i will advise you to seek help fast in whatever form. you are an electronic disaster.

you say south africa helped nigeria in transforming what? UK AND CANADA SANCTIONED THE ABACHA REGIME because of the ogoni 9 . Mandela called for more commonwealth sanctions in the oil sector, and guess what, NIGERIA'S Emeka Ayogu was common wealth secretary general who actually sanctioned nigeria.

abacha punished south africa by boycutting the nations cup and south african officials were all over abuja pleading and begging.

printing ballot papers....thats a new one for me. but how does that transform into support of our democracy? you are a dead man struggling for air..

your democracy started in 1994 , ours started in 1953 before independence and continued till 1966 untill the military hijacked it. we commenced again in the 1970s to 1980s and again in 1999.

WE WERE ALREADY PRINTING BALLOT BOXES WHEN YOU WERE STILL IN CAVES AND TREES....prevented from joining the rest of humanity by your anglo-dutch who still run your country economically..