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SailorXY:
Valencia had the chance (& pace) to pressure Hazard, but he stopped for reasons best known to him.

he was also unaware of his surroundings for Everton's last goal, stopped playing on a perceived offside with no whistle sound.

he just can't be first choice RB next season.

He switches off sometimes and that has cost us some games.

SailorXY:
Valencia had the chance (& pace) to pressure Hazard, but he stopped for reasons best known to him.

he was also unaware of his surroundings for Everton's last goal, stopped playing on a perceived offside with no whistle sound.

he just can't be first choice RB next season.

Valencia was not in position, he had no way of knowing Smalling would pass into that area where he was not there and he had no way of knowing Falcao would be bullied/fouled so easily. Valencia has no fault there. Hazard was standing with Hererra. Herrera saw all the moves, the intention of Oscar and when Hazard came from behind him.

As for next season, we hear every time so so player will not be a regular, after some time they again become important to the team or even indispensable. There are many mistakes in the team. not just from Val's wing. Valencia did not make these mistakes under SAF when he played the number 2. Next season, the team will play more compact.

elampiro:
Too early to say. We had some missed chances in the last two matches.

* Let's say you were given 150 million to go to market. Can we see your first eleven?

* I think Nani is good at unlocking a tight defence.

Hope to read you post tomorrow. I am off.

I'll first
release Falcao

sell RvP, Evans, Cleverley & maybe Valencia.

loan - Januzaj, Lingard, Blackett, Thorpe

return - Hernandez, Nani

buy - Laporte, Clyne, Khedira (free), Pogba, Gundogan, Lucozade, Depay.
*I wouldn't reject Bale if a real chance presented

based on last season's form, these bunch will improve the team & squad a lot.

SailorXY:
I'll first
release Falcao

sell RvP, Evans, Cleverley & maybe Valencia.

loan - Januzaj, Lingard, Blackett, Thorpe

return - Hernandez, Nani

buy - Laporte, Clyne, Khedira (free), Pogba, Gundogan, Lucozade, Depay.
*I wouldn't reject Bale if a real chance presented

based on last season's form, these bunch will improve the team & squad a lot.

RVP scored 2 and hit the woodwork twice for U-21. he has returned fresh. With Rooney's injury, I think RVP has another chance now. So we have to wait till end of season to assess him.

* You did not arrange your players in a formation.

Problem is buying many players means another rebuilding process which takes time while some players take time to click or may not at all but the fact is we need a RB, CB, a backup DM/CM and an attacker/winger. We can manage Rooney, Chicha and VP as CF.

I think we will need a real DM. I still think Carrick even without injury will be having a diminishing return as he plays in successive games.

We need a DM who has speed and can pass fluently with both legs. Eevn Herrera appears to be weak in his left, this is why Carrick has a huge advantage. Blind is one leg.

elampiro:
I see nothing wrong with Valencia other than Gaal dishing him one or two instructions. Right from kick off of the Everton match I saw something wrong. We played a high line defence which is now our pattern, this wasn't the problem however, the problem has to do with playing too few men behind the ball. Also of not being conservative in approach.

First we had a defence playing high. Second, we had the two full backs supporting attacks as usual. The third thing was the unusual, Blind playing like he was an AM thereby leaving only Smalling and McNair exposed. From the Chelsea's game, I knew McNair was a weak link. Before the match I told my friends I had a problem with McNair being in that position. I want to believe that Carrick understood how best to position himself to play behind the ball and somewhat behind opposition attacking midfielders.

Now back to Valencia. If Gaal wants Val to play like a traditional right back staying compact with his other defenders, he can easily dish out this instruction. What we see is Gaal being comfortable with our high line defence. This kind of defence is easily split apart mostly from a counter attack as compared to Chelsea's kind of defence where all four or five players sit deep and play very closely. This where many people think our defenders are not up to standard. Not many players can play in a high defence. Most world class defenders will flop in it. Valencia has done well on the right, even better than those who have played on the left- if defending is just to be used as a yardstick.

I want to believe that Phil Jones ability to drift to the left full back to kill threats have been what has covered all the weaknesses from that angle. McNair doesn't have this skill to go and try intercept or kill potential moves in that wing before they get to danger area. Valencia, however is left to do all by himself, particularly, when Smalling didnt have the liberty to roam due to being paired with a novice. This is where a coach dishes out instructions as matches are going on. Or there has to be a leader at the back who could read the game well like Carrick. In all the six straight matches we won, Valencia has gone out of his position to help. We saw him kill moves high up the pitch. We saw him racing to close down Aguero far away from his position on the left side of our defence.

One thing is, a team learns to play as a unit. This is more true of a defence. The calamity was Shaw, Valencia and Blind moving out at same time. Then we had a baby defender. Valencia also seems to be unaware that he is probably fatigued at this time. His recovering time and concentration will be affected. We were up against two Everton wingers who have had little football this season, hence they came out so fresh. Then we made the mistake of going all out to attack with 8 men. Everton had about three to four players lurking around for a chance to break at our defence.

If a new defender will displace Valencia next season is left to be seen. Whoever is coming will be playing in a high defence. When Rafael played in a similar set up against Burnley at Old Trafford, he was caught out twice from counter attack. We cannot really compare until we have another playing games for us to enable us compare. On the pass accuracy, Valencia is 6th in the entire EPL. The highest in Manchester United. He is the only out and out full back who is in the first 40. The next is Zabaleta who is in number 41. This is how he brings stability to our play. He is hardly disposed and has a very low rate of unsuccessful touch. There are some players that you just give the ball to when it becomes hard to keep.

This season Val has done well. Even under SAF he did well playing in the defence in a long spell for about three seasons. He is even playing behind two small players, unlike the other side we have Young and Fellaini.

I dnt care if Valencia has a pass accuracy of 99% and Nathaniel Clyne has 58% .I knw who I wud ideally prefer.if u say Valencia has done well dis season.mayb it is a case of every man to his own . Valencia I will repeat again is not a RB.He is jst a player who is athletic and has strength and dis seems to b d only thing he has going for him and it buys him d whole.." he is reliable and good" crap.He is d player dt gets fed d most balls in our team and I av never seen an horribly out of depth attacking player who cnt do anything distinctive at all.It pains me dt I av to endure d horror he displays every game.I av said it dt wen we buy a proper right back next season and see d difference btw black and white, we will all be wondering hw we usd to evn endure Valencia playing.Thats hw bad it is.Tell me one thing valencia is good at apart frm being strong and knocking d ball to his rgt everytime he has it.It annoys me like hell.he is average.hw anyone cannot see dis is mind boggling. Look at dt gif.we were drawing 0-0 at Leicester wid 9 mins and valencia did dt.dt was d day I totally gave up on him.

Kemizee:
I dnt care if Valencia has a pass accuracy of 99% and Nathaniel Clyne has 58% .I knw who I wud ideally prefer.if u say Valencia has done well dis season.mayb it is a case of every man to his own . Valencia I will repeat again is not a RB.He is jst a player who is athletic and has strength and dis seems to b d only thing he has going for him and it buys him d whole.." he is reliable and good" crap.He is d player dt gets fed d most balls in our team and I av never seen an horribly out of depth attacking player who cnt do anything distinctive at all.It pains me dt I av to endure d horror he displays every game.I av said it dt wen we buy a proper right back next season and see d difference btw black and white, we will all be wondering hw we usd to evn endure Valencia playing.Thats hw bad it is.Tell me one thing valencia is good at apart frm being strong and knocking d ball to his rgt everytime he has it.It annoys me like hell.he is average.hw anyone cannot see dis is mind boggling. Look at dt gif.we were drawing 0-0 at Leicester wid 9 mins and valencia did dt.dt was d day I totally gave up on him.

I don't want to be arguing on this thread again.

* I see nothing tangible you are holding against Valencia other than the pains that he benches Rafael who you think is creative. This is same way you can't see what Young is doing because you want Di Maria to play.

* On the gif you brought in our away fixture to Burnley (not Leicester as you claim), Valencia was vindicated when United were killed on the counter from a ball hurriedly hit into opposition final third against Leicester. I think a similar thing happened against West Ham when Rooney was sent off.

You can see Burnley were ready to break with at least 5 men should Val hit and they clear.

* If Val is so bad as you claim, why does he bench a very good Rafael under an experience coach like Gaal?

What is the point of even bringing a gif of a fixture in August where everything was haphazard and the philosophy was still being thought to them like they were in primary one.

I have seen even Herrera done worse back play press passes when we should be looking for goals.

AdeLaNa1:
U re a Stark Illeterate who is obviously suffering from Dementia and Amnesia join.

The irony here is just too great. Calling someone an illiterate without being able to spell the word.

See the type of muppets y'all are breeding? Elamps you can do better than this.

Lemme break it down for u in the Layman's language u can best understand:

Nah don't bother, your efforts are better directed ad learning how to spell. I wouldn't understand the garbled gobbledygook you're spewing anyway.

Did u not say 'U beat us in league position and trophies ladt season'. So judging by u Arsenal is better than United coz of that??

Erm. . . yes - how else do you measure club performance except by final league position and trophies won? Or do you prefer number of letters in your name and stadium capacity?

Like i said small club mentality. U mates are winning league and UCL but u re happy with fourth place and FA Cup....Issok!

No small club mentality here - simply stating facts. We bested you last season and are on course to do so again, while you are guaranteed to run two seasons without winning even a pin. If you nor like am, stick sharpened needles in your distended eyeballs.

Do you think league table positions are given out for free? Why do teams

U said 'The last 100 yrs doesn't count. Only the present'. Dat means u saying the past is irrelevant and all the players are playing for and ve played for is irrelevant. And yet u pointed out the fact that 'We beat u in league position and trophies'. So tell me isn't dat a thing of the past. U see how Stewpid and ridiculous u just made urself??

Nah, you've revealed the depth of your peerless idiocy. Last season counts so far as the current season's results are not final. If someone asks you - who is the FA cup holder? The answer is it is currently Arsenal so it's not in the past.

SailorXY can you take this tyro and get him schooled? He seems to lack even basic comprehension not to talk of reasoning faculties.

You guys shouldn't bother, top four is secured, we will finish above Ass'nal or Shitty, what happened against Everton happens once in a while. Btw, trust Gaal, he will sort out the signings.......whether good or bad!

Once in a while eh? When Van Hag was yarning opata saying y'all would've won the league with a better start?

I wonder if losing to Everton happened at the start or end of the season.

Manchester United side have suffered more injuries than any other Premier League team this season.
--DAILY TELEGRAPH

What's likely the problem

This must be sorted out if we're to be successful next season.

chrisley024:
Manchester United side have suffered more injuries than any other Premier League team this season.
--DAILY TELEGRAPH

What's likely the problem

This must be sorted out if we're to be successful next season.

It's probably the backroom staff. This must be sorted out asap. Else, next season will be a repetition of the current one- players getting injured when we need them the most.

debosky:
The irony here is just too great. Calling someone an illiterate without being able to spell the word.

See the type of muppets y'all are breeding? Elamps you can do better than this.



Nah don't bother, your efforts are better directed ad learning how to spell. I wouldn't understand the garbled gobbledygook you're spewing anyway.



Erm. . . yes - how else do you measure club performance except by final league position and trophies won? Or do you prefer number of letters in your name and stadium capacity?



No small club mentality here - simply stating facts. We bested you last season and are on course to do so again, while you are guaranteed to run two seasons without winning even a pin. If you nor like am, stick sharpened needles in your distended eyeballs.

Do you think league table positions are given out for free? Why do teams



Nah, you've revealed the depth of your peerless idiocy. Last season counts so far as the current season's results are not final. If someone asks you - who is the FA cup holder? The answer is it is currently Arsenal so it's not in the past.

SailorXY can you take this tyro and get him schooled? He seems to lack even basic comprehension not to talk of reasoning faculties.

Ur fruitless attempt to change topic from wat we're discussing to a simple typo.....even as i can count various other typos u've made urself is a pathetic attempt to win dis little debate we're having. I actually wouldn't expect anything less from a bitter and deplorable Arsenal fan such as urself


Do u even know wat gobbledygook means?? U urself just admitted u are incapable of understanding the simple logic of a Layman. U just keep shooting urself in the foot with ur own words. SMH! Makes one wonder how u must've wasted ur dear parents money after all their attempts at giving u quality and sound education....

Leave Sailor out of this. U won the FA Cup last season. Keyword: Last! And u say dats not a thing of the past? Bruh time and time again u've used ur own words to contradict urself and u clearly lack the foresight to use simple English words to form a comlete phrase. So keep arguing and mking a fool of urself. I'm done trading words wit u. U simply aint worth the time anymore

Luis Nani has said he will return to the club this summer.
Although he wouldn’t rule out extending his stay at Sporting, the 28-year-old says he will report back to Old Trafford this summer and insists he now has the confidence to compete at the highest level once again.
He told Portuguese newspaper O Jogo: “I am a Manchester United player and I must return. I can never say it’s impossible to continue at Sporting.
“I believe I am now more confident to compete for a place in whatever team is. I am able to play in a more competitive league. But nothing is concrete yet.”
[Source: O Jogo]
.............................


Hope he wont lose confidence when he sees competiton from Young and Di Maria. One thing I know is that Nani hates to compete. He likes being the only one, taking risks, free to make mistakes in the process without any threat of going to the bench.

According to ESPN, Everton re looking to sign Evans & Januzaj. Evans, we can dash dem but Januzaj should be loaned not sold

SailorXY:
Valencia had the chance (& pace) to pressure Hazard, but he stopped for reasons best known to him.

he was also unaware of his surroundings for Everton's last goal, stopped playing on a perceived offside with no whistle sound.

he just can't be first choice RB next season.

u guyz use to forget the pairing of Juan mata @ the right wing up front,who isn't a natural out and out winger he prefers to drift infield.He also has a poor tracking back records and wining tackles is problem he faces the same fate when paired with Di Maria tho Di Maria tracks back better but we can clearly remember how he left Valencia exposed against arsenal when Monreal had an easy run into our 18yard.Valencia do not enjoy luxuries of Fellaini and young coming to his help.

elampiro:
I don't want to be arguing on this thread again.

* I see nothing tangible you are holding against Valencia other than the pains that he benches Rafael who you think is creative. This is same way you can't see what Young is doing because you want Di Maria to play.

* On the gif you brought in our away fixture to Burnley (not Leicester as you claim), Valencia was vindicated when United were killed on the counter from a ball hurriedly hit into opposition final third against Leicester. I think a similar thing happened against West Ham when Rooney was sent off.

You can see Burnley were ready to break with at least 5 men should Val hit and they clear.

* If Val is so bad as you claim, why does he bench a very good Rafael under an experience coach like Gaal?

The first point beggars belief.I hope you do realise that am a core man United fan and that I want the team to do well irrespective of who plays.

The 2nd bolded part is just not true in context.Managers have a preference/prejudice when it come to certain players. Doesn't mean they are right all the time.Rafael is mostly injured.In no way is Valencia a better player.You must also not forget that it wasn't long ago that Van gaal benched Mata and Herrera when we needed much creativity in midfield.Does that mean that Mata and Herrera are crap?

Sir Alex Ferguson even played Park and Rafael on New year day ahead of Paul Pogba.Think abt this!!!That's one of the reasons Pogba left.
Van gaal also was against the purchase of Manuel Neuer(the world's best GK) saying he wasn't good enough.Hw abt that?He didn't like Ribery too.

Managers are humans and have prejudices and make mistakes too.They are not perfect so cocnluding that because Van gaal loves Valencia because he is a better player is erroneous.

chrisley024:
Problem is buying many players means another rebuilding process which takes time while some players take time to click or may not at all but the fact is we need a RB, CB, a backup DM/CM and an attacker/winger. We can manage Rooney, Chicha and VP as CF.

elampiro:
RVP scored 2 and hit the woodwork twice for U-21. he has returned fresh. With Rooney's injury, I think RVP has another chance now. So we have to wait till end of season to assess him.

* You did not arrange your players in a formation.

if we will rely on RvP & Rooney as our CF next season, we'll end up trophyless again! if we receive a good bid for RvP, LvG should not play any sentiments - the guy is on the decline even when he was having game after game @ the beginning of the season. we were here complaining bitterly & although some instincts remain, he is past it. Rooney is just the OK guy from a poor group. they were all world class but we must move on if we are to amount to anything by this time next season.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - de Gea - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Clyne - - - - Smalling - - - - - Laporte - - - - Blind

- - - - - - - - - - - - - Carrick - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Nani - - - - Herrera - - - - - - Pogba - - - - di Maria

- - - - - - - - - - - - - Rooney - - - - - - - - - - - - -

of course this is subject to form & settling down of the new recruits, but when you look @ the squad left out (Mata, Khedira, Rojo, Jones, Depay, Gundogan, Hernandez, Lacazette, Young, Shaw, Fellaini, etc) & the idea that other members of the squad can come in & hold down your position like infant to tits; then we'll know we are ready for the next step.

SailorXY:
if we will rely on RvP & Rooney as our CF next season, we'll end up trophyless again! if we receive a good bid for RvP, LvG should not play any sentiments - the guy is on the decline even when he was having game after game @ the beginning of the season. we were here complaining bitterly & although some instincts remain, he is past it. Rooney is just the OK guy from a poor group. they were all world class but we must move on if we are to amount to anything by this time next season.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - de Gea - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Clyne - - - - Smalling - - - - - Laporte - - - - Blind

- - - - - - - - - - - - - Carrick - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Nani - - - - Herrera - - - - - - Pogba - - - - di Maria

- - - - - - - - - - - - - Rooney - - - - - - - - - - - - -

of course this is subject to form & settling down of the new recruits, but when you look @ the squad left out (Mata, Khedira, Rojo, Jones, Depay, Gundogan, Hernandez, Lacazette, Young, Shaw, Fellaini, etc) & the idea that other members of the squad can come in & hold down your position like infant to tits; then we'll know we are ready for the next step.

Dats a lot of players we'll ve to get o. Dats if we're even able to get up to half of those players..

Kemizee:
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The first point beggars belief.I hope you do realise that am a core man United fan and that I want the team to do well irrespective of who plays.

The 2nd bolded part is just not true in context.Managers have a preference/prejudice when it come to certain players. Doesn't mean they are right all the time.Rafael is mostly injured.In no way is Valencia a better player.You must also not forget that it wasn't long ago that Van gaal benched Mata and Herrera when we needed much creativity in midfield.Does that mean that Mata and Herrera are crap?

Sir Alex Ferguson even played Park and Rafael on New year day ahead of Paul Pogba.Think abt this!!!That's one of the reasons Pogba left.
Van gaal also was against the purchase of Manuel Neuer(the world's best GK) saying he wasn't good enough.Hw abt that?He didn't like Ribery too.

Managers are humans and have prejudices and make mistakes too.They are not perfect so cocnluding that because Van gaal loves Valencia because he is a better player is erroneous.

It's also your opinion when you say Rafael is better than Valencia. And for every point you think Val made a wrong decision, I can bring a hundred right decisions he has made.

When Herrer and Mata didnt play, at least there were cries every where that they should be given a chance. I am yet to read where anyone has called for Rafael over Valencia. Even among my friends who are not United fans, they speak of their respect for Val. Even, at the time Mata was benched, he wasn't doing well. I am one of those who still think these guys (Carrick, Herrera, Mata and Fellaini) freshness is one of the advantages over other players. Next season help me reach a conclusion when everyone had to start afresh.

The Pogba stuff is a whole big issue I dont want to go into. SAF didnt make any mistake there. Pogba was not ready at the time and SAF had won matches with Fabio, Rafael, JS Park in midfield before. I saw Pogba in matches and his decision making was poor, although the potential and skills every evident. It's easy to say these things from hindsight today because Pogba is successful. There were dozen others who didn't get into the first team despite their promising start, but because they are not succesful, people dont talk about them anymore.

At the beginning of last season, many felt SAF was foolish to have allowed Morrison to leave. It went on for a long spell. Now I dont hear about Morrison on this thread. Rafael did well for us against QPR, he switched off against Leicester then did well again. But when we played a high defence against West Brom, he was caught out of position twice. DDG had to rescue one of them in which the blame would have been directly his fault.

elampiro:
Dadehmola, Chelsea is 20th on interception table. They have the least interception this season. How much do you still really value this interception stat?

Per game
1st. Arsenal 20.5
2nd. Leicester 18.9
3rd Man United 18.3
19th Liverpool 11.9
20th Chelsea 9.7

When did we ever have a discussion in this regard?

The palmwine don ferment gan abi??

folba:
u guyz use to forget the pairing of Juan mata @ the right wing up front,who isn't a natural out and out winger he prefers to drift infield.He also has a poor tracking back records and wining tackles is problem he faces the same fate when paired with Di Maria tho Di Maria tracks back better but we can clearly remember how he left Valencia exposed against arsenal when Monreal had an easy run into our 18yard.Valencia do not enjoy luxuries of Fellaini and young coming to his help.

perhaps the call for a natural right back with some attacking sense for good balance next season is not so out of place after all

AdeLaNa1:
Dats a lot of players we'll ve to get o. Dats if we're even able to get up to half of those players..

they are all realistic targets & will fall well within the 150m pounds touted

Me thinks the Valencia criticism is getting outta hand. It's his 1st full season in that position and I think he has been decent (albeit a few lapses in concentration - there's room for improvement in that area).

From recent posts here, it seems blind has been deemed "incapable" of holding down the DM position - the same dude who was heralded as the new Alonso earlier this season!

Nawa oo

Dadehmola:
Me thinks the Valencia criticism is getting outta hand. It's his 1st full season in that position and I think he has been decent (albeit a few lapses in concentration - there's room for improvement in that area).

From recent posts here, it seems blind has been deemed "incapable" of holding down the DM position - the same dude who was heralded as the new Alonso earlier this season!

Nawa oo

how? what the center needs is an injection of pace. Carrick, Blind, Herrera,Fellaini, Mata are just there even tho they are mobile players (minus Carrick).

Strootman/Vidal/Mascherano would have been the perfect acquisition.

[b]Now, let's even examine all Pogba's 7 games in the season he complained and left. What influence did he even have in the games?

Paul Pogba games in 2011/2012
1. CARLING CUP Tuesday 20 Sept 2011
Leeds 0 - 3 Man Utd........ He came on at 46 mins for Giggs when score was already 3-0.

2. CARLING CUP Tuesday 25 Oct 2011
Aldershot 0 - 3 Man Utd........ He came on at 60th minute for Cleverly when score was already at 3-0. Cleverly and Park played in midfield. Morrison came on for Diouf at 70th minute.

3. CARLING CUP Wednesday 30 Nov 2011
Man Utd 1 - 2 C Palace........ Pogba came on for Rafael at 76 minutes when score was 0-0. A minute later Palace scored us. He was the last substitute. Morrison came on for Berbatov at 46 minutes.

4. ENGLISH PREMIER Tuesday 31 Jan 2012
Man Utd 2 - 0 Stoke ...... Pogba came on for Hernadez at 73 minutes when score was 2-0. He was the only substitute in. Fabio, Radael, Giggs, Welbeck were on the bench.

5. ENGLISH PREMIER Sunday 11 Mar 2012
Man Utd 2 - 0 West Brom..... He came on for Scholes at 73 minutes when score was at already 2-0. Rafael, Giggs, Park and Berbatov were all unused substitutes.

6. EUROPA LEAGUE Thursday 15 Mar 2012
Ath Bilbao 2 - 1 Man Utd....... He went in for Carrick t 63 minutes when United trailed by 0-1. Scholes, Chicha and Fabio were unused substitutes.

7. ENGLISH PREMIER Sunday 18 Mar 2012
RESULT
Wolves 0 -5 Man.......... Pogba came on for Carrrick at 57 minutes when score stood at 4-0. Young, Park and Giggs were unused substitutes.



Any one who after reviewing the above info and still criticize SAF is an Ekwe Sample. Pogba knew for sure SAF was bringing him gradually into the first team even when he was not productive at the time. We should not forget also that 2011/2012 was a very hard two horse race where the best players needed to feature.
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I reviewed all our matches after the 5-0 win over Wolves, the substitutions and the circumstances. I beg Pogba didnt stand any chance with the quality and calibre of players who needed to be introduced to try and win matches.

The very next match Scholes, Cleverley, Berbatov and Hernadez were on the bench in our 1-0 win over Fulham. Giggs and Carrick played the match.

SailorXY:
how? what the center needs is an injection of pace. Carrick, Blind, Herrera,Fellaini, Mata are just there even tho they are mobile players (minus Carrick).

Strootman/Vidal/Mascherano would have been the perfect acquisition.

In the fantasy squad posted earlier, You started blind at LB..with carrick as the DM - a testament to the fact that carrick is way better as a DM than the Dutchman!

Again, it seems you don't trust herrera In a pivot (or let's just say you prefer a 3-man CMF).

An experienced CB and a goal-scorer In addition to gundogan (that hin belle dey discourage me tho ) would do for next season IMO.

SailorXY:
how? what the center needs is an injection of pace. Carrick, Blind, Herrera,Fellaini, Mata are just there even tho they are mobile players (minus Carrick).

Strootman/Vidal/Mascherano would have been the perfect acquisition.

Strootman,every time I have seen him played he has never disappointed, just his injury tho.I can't see Vidal and Macherano leaving the champions league prospective winners.Our best shot should be schneiderlin.

Dadehmola:
When did we ever have a discussion in this regard?

The palmwine don ferment gan abi??

When I newly come this thread, na me and you first talk about interceptions and tackle before any one else. You remember our Carrick and Hargreaves argument? But let's leave.