₦airaland Forum

barcanista:
Your talk of tribal sentiment is flawed. Didn't you see the demography of every major ethnic groups in the Original post? By the way what do you mean whipping tribal sentiment when I never attacked nor accuse any tribe but I clearly faulted the system? The system is so unfavorable to me. is Kaduna more populated than Rivers State? Is Katsina more populated than Rivers State? Are the Igbos such a minority that the system make them appear? Can't you see from the two countries I used as a yardstick?

QuotaSystem:
There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people.

- Thomas Jefferson

Everything is in order.

Eugenedimgba:
Well,the igbos have themselves to blame.Hausas know what they want and vigorously fights for it,the yorubas to an extent too.

Mynd44:
This is not right.
I can see you are back to the old ways or whipping up tribal sentiments as was exposed yesterday. Now let me help you out.

What is the population of Kano?
What is the population of Lagos?
Now what is the population of the most populous state in the SE?

If a state has a population of say 10 million, how can you expect that state not to have more representatives than a state with a population of 3million?

QuotaSystem:
There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people.

- Thomas Jefferson

Everything is in order.

barcanista:
Your talk of tribal sentiment is flawed. Didn't you see the demography of every major ethnic groups in the Original post? By the way what do you mean whipping tribal sentiment when I never attacked nor accuse any tribe but I clearly faulted the system? The system is so unfavorable to me. is Kaduna more populated than Rivers State? Is Katsina more populated than Rivers State? Are the Igbos such a minority that the system make them appear? Can't you see from the two countries I used as a yardstick?

abduljabbar4:
Barcanista is really pained. I don't even know what to type again. Me APC brothers, let's stop resurrecting his old threads. His heart is being broken. As for those saying pdp will field a northerner, my question is why did Buhari lose in 3 consecutive times, earning him the name 'serial loser' with the same north?
Buhari lost in kogi, kwara, taraba, niger, benue plateau, abuja, nasarawa and Adamawa maybe these were southern states then. This election was 80% based on competency and not tribe. You know those that voted based on tribe. Thanks to the south west that didn't consider religion in this election. I couldn't believe Buhari could ever win in the south west looking at how they voted in 2011 and even left their own Bakare for Jonathan. Let's see what Buhari has for us. If he messes up, nobody needs to tell us what to do but there is one thing:
PDP WILL NEVER RULE NIGERIA AGAIN. We will vote KOWA
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Why did you type Kano and Lagos in bold? You are more intelligent than this. So you don't know that they are the most populated states in Nigeria.
Barcanista politics is changing your mentality. I'm serious now

ECOTERRORS:
The inequality in the Nigeria system will hasten its dissolution.

The hausas will never allow for true federalism because the way Nigeria is constituted made them feudal lords over this country

barcanista:
Nigeria
Federal House of Representative (360 Seats)
North-West: Kaduna (16), Kebbi [8], Zamfara (7) , Sokoto (11), Kano (24), Jigawa (11) and Katsina State (15).
Total: 92
North-East: Taraba (6), Borno (10), Bauchi (12), [/b]Adamawa [8], Gombe (6) and Yobe State (6).
Total: 48
[b]North Central: Kogi (9), Niger (10), Benue (11), Kwara (6), Plateau [8], Nassarawa (5) + FCT -2
Total: 49 + 2 =51
South-West: Oyo (14), Ogun (9), Lagos (24), Ekiti(6), Ondo (9) and Osun State (9).
Total:71
South-Easts: Ebonyi (6) Enugu [8], Imo (10), Abia [8] and Anambra State (11).
Total: 43
South-South: Akwa-Ibom (10), Bayelsa (5), Edo (9), Cross River [8], Rivers (13) and Delta State (10).
Total: 55

NW + NE= 140 Seats
NW + NE + NC = 191 Seats
SW (alone) = 71 Seats
SS + SE= 98 Seats

atlwireles:
The United states constitution? Maybe you are talking of a different United states.

Tolexander:
maybe you are naive of The US!

Mynd44:
This is not right.
I can see you are back to the old ways or whipping
If a state has a population of say 10 million, how can you expect that state not to have more representatives than a state with a population of 3million?

barcanista:
The USA practice True Federalism and each federating unit control their resources

Firefire:
Nigeria is a FRAUD!

It is a wise man who said that there is no greater inequality than the equal treatment of unequal's. - Felix Frankfurter

Tolexander:
http://www.geohive.com/cntry/nigeria.aspx

The US federating units controlling the individual resources has no relevance here but the proportional representation in the lower chamber of the congress.

The House of Representatives in the US where our constitution is adopted is made up of members base on the population of the states.

so far the Ndigbo is the third largest ethnic group in Nigeria doesn't mean they should be treated differently from other ethnic groups.

Tolexander:
http://www.geohive.com/cntry/nigeria.aspx

The US federating units controlling the individual resources has no relevance here but the proportional representation in the lower chamber of the congress.

The House of Representatives in the US where our constitution is adopted is made up of members base on the population of the states.

so far the Ndigbo is the third largest ethnic group in Nigeria doesn't mean they should be treated differently from other ethnic groups.

babestella:
Even if you deceive yourself, you can't deceive others. Who told you this election was based on competence? Where and how did the equation of "competence come to play? Maybe for the very few educated ones in the electorate most of whom did not even bother to come out and vote, but for those in the north, it has always being an agenda to return power to the north. The opium was high and fully driven by the northern elites, for an average northerner in those states where Buhari had always won the election, it has always being cor "returning power to the north". Talking about north central, they are on an impatient experimental journey with APC, I hope they are not disappointed.

So don't get things mixed up here, I can guarantee that even if Buhari did not perform or even failed woefully, I can bet my car for it, you can vote him out unless there is a Political understanding to let power slip out of their hands to return at a later date.
If PDP fields a northern candidate and a SE Vice President, believe me APC will be done and dusted. Politics is largely all about political interest and not exactly about competence. With a strong internal packaging a weak president can still be made to perform by his party ideologies and resolve to uphold it in moving and developing a nation.

Eyepencil:
What is this one saying?

pazeinza:
The ibos have been marginalised, right? What about the Junkuns, Efiks, Kamberis, Bacchamas, Tivs, Momoye, Shuwa Arabs, Higgis, and all other members of the more than 250 ethnic groups In Nigeria? I guess they are all irrelevant

nerodenero:
I'm not one of them but I think the Igbos, in this context, are grossly marginalized. This is injustice and it should be addressed asap.

barcanista:
The Ndigbo is one of the three largest thnic group yet they have the least number of representatives in Both Houses of the Senate and Reps. While the Fulani/Hausa with a questioned figure enjoys overhelming majority in both Houses of the Senate and Representative.

Why can't you cÀll for "True Federalism and Resource Control" since you admitted that our constitution is formed using US model? By the way whose constitution? The 1999 constitutioon was a Northern military constitution that had no input of ethnic Nationalities.

psalmizt:
God bless you sir for this post... I have always wondered the basis for this "allocation". How is Sokoto more than Ogun and Delta State? How is Kaduna more than River State? What has Katsina got that Oyo doesn't Trounce? Why is Jigawa more than Enugu and Anambra? As in Bauchi is more relevant than AkwaIbom? These figures lack any scientific basis rather it smells of an agenda driven computation.., Some times I wonder what Southern lawmakers do in that their so called National Assembly. Now I see why the North will NEVER EVER renegotiate the bloody constitution, why should They? What incentive is There? For them to lose Relevance? Hell No. So for those Southerners that are clamouring for more representation first and foremost go and arrest your representatives during the set up of such scam. It hurts... really it hurts

psalmizt:
On the issue of population of ethnic nationalities, aside the NW, SE, SW every other region is fragmented. You cannot categorically say a particular ethnic group controls the NC neither can you say the same for the NE and SS. So you are left with proper census of each state to ascertain their representations in the House of Representatives. Since such credible numbers may never be realised, I believe we will have to deal with having Bauchi send more reps than Ogun, Delta, and even Enugu.

Tolexander:
bro, though I know that Nigeria statistics isn't credible and base on fact, what have you to justify the larger population of the three states than Bauchi State?

psalmizt:
The converse is equally true, what do you have to suggest it isn't? By the way, Ogun is a gateway state meaning some of the excess luggage from Lagos reside there. Delta is equally a gateway to the East meaning chances are a lot of ppl tend to live there not to mention the oil activities. And as for Enugu, it is technically the centre or should I say the capital of the Igbo nation. That said, onky a real census can justify my conjectures. I still don't see how it is possible that Bauchi gets to have more reps than any of the aforementioned states. Once again this is entirely my view.

PapiWata:
As in Born-To-Rule ? I anticipate that there will be some responses to your postulation here, especially since this concept appears to have some new relevance in light of the recent presidential election results.