TheReborn:


Jesus! Are you being deliberately stupid?

I wrote that the article says most slaves in Virginia came from the Caribbean. You are the one claiming Ibos dominated Virginia.

So why did a museum in Virginia specifically build an Igbo village becasue:

"Nearly 40% of the Africans imported into Virginia during this time were brought from a part of the West African coast called the Bight of Biafra. Many of these captives were Igbo, a people living in the upland area north of the Bight of Biafra in what is now the nation of Nigeria. The West African Farm represents life in a free Igbo household in the Biafran hinterlands in the 1700s."

http://www.frontiermuseum.org/exhibits/1700s-west-africa/

TheReborn:


Jesus! Are you being deliberately stupid?

I wrote that the article says most slaves in Virginia came from the Caribbean. You are the one claiming Ibos dominated Virginia.

For the second time, are you an Ejagham?

pazienza:


Don't be too quick to speak ill of the ejaghams. That lady is not an Ejagham, until proven otherwise.

Her default ethnic group is everything but Ejagham.

Thanks. I am not speaking ill of ejaghams. It is only satire to kickstart her mentally slow brain that lacks proper use of logic and reasoning.

TheReborn:


Such silliness. I am not the one claiming somebody's language as my own. You keep missing the point.

Yes, by writing in a language not invented by you, you are stealing the english language.

Don't be a thief.

emmysoftyou:
no offense pls..was it because of this thread ?
You registered on nairaland today?

If yes ,you re welcome,atleast we ve someone from Caribbean that will help us countered some fact that re not true..

You re welcome..

He is an old member with a new moniker. Guess his ethnic group? Tsk tsk tsk....

quimicababes:


Trinidad and Tobago but I am specifically from the island of Trinidad

There are carribbean islands that identify with igbos than Yorubas. Don't be too fast to conclude that carribbean countries lack the presence of igbo cultures.

PlutoLA:
This just goes to show that Igbo ppl were the most gullible tribe and were most easily tricked into working as slaves in the US

Every tribe have slaves in the diaspora. Don't forget we have Badagry slave port. You will also notice that Yoruba is spoken in Brazil.
This is as a result of slave trade.

TheReborn:


Jesus! Are you being deliberately stupid?

I wrote that the article says most slaves in Virginia came from the Caribbean. You are the one claiming Ibos dominated Virginia.

By quoting an article that mentions the ejagham in passing once, you inadvertently shot your own self in the foot with evidence re-iterating that majority of takeaways from bight of biafra were from Igbo land.

Now, take it slowly as you revulse in horror at the point underlined in red below:

From the very same article you quoted.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/23267213?uid=3738720&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21106686753233

Ihuomadinihu:

There are carribbean islands that identify with igbos than Yorubas. Don't be too fast to conclude that carribbean countries lack the presence of igbo cultures.

True, one of such islands is Carriacou.

tobtap:
only peeps with INFERIORITY COMPLEX will claim the 75% of the entire slaves in another place,yet no visible proof thru(CULTURE, LANGUAGE AND CUISINE ) to back up their claims.
my candid opinion

Hang yourself loser.

TheReborn:
Most slaves were taken from Barbados than shipped from Africa. So where did our Igbo tribal jingoist get their '70%' from?

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/population/slaveorigin.html

Some sources claim Mozambique as having the highest number of slaves in Virginia, next from Nigeria. Some say Angola.

In Julie Dash's 'Daughters of the Dust', one could see more slaves from other African countries than Igbos. Igbos were not even popular among slave owners in Virginia because they refused to face the grim reality of slavery, wilfully dying in some cases to avoid slavery.

That is not true. There were some that were brought to the USA from the Caribbean, but most were landed in Maryland or Virginia. You have to know the history of the USA in knowing that those 2 states were two of the original 13 colonies, but all of the American colonies originally had slavery. Slaves were typically landed in Annapolis Maryland and sold in the slave markets of Baltimore. Other were sold in the slave markets in Virginia or New York (btw, Wall Street in New York City started as a slave market selling Africans).

http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/intromsa/pdf/slavery_pamphlet.pdf
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6762/
http://www.nathanielturner.com/baltimoreslavemarkets.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/18/AR2010021801675.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-singer/wall-street-was-a-slave-m_b_1208536.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-plans-memorial-wall-street-slave-market-1700s-article-1.2187091

That "Jonkonnu" could be a corruption of Ojionu; I mean OJIONU masquerade. Go back to Mbido Igbo text books and see the drawing of the OJIONU masquerade.

ekenedegreat:
Point of correction! Without igbos there will be no USA.

u see reason y I dislike gbos,,,


Godforbid, never will Any SS form alliance with u, I was making a point u tribalize it, am jst happy we re nt in ur country, men Our land 4 b, Warri Ojukw, or ughelli obi, una 4 convent all our tins to Igbo

tanks to my forefathers, David EJor. and all those who never let us b enslave in 1967 in d name of Biafra..


Gosh, Igbo pls change. dont think other tribe re nothing y u re d king,

OgagaMic:
hmmm Good to knw

if its an Urhobo thread some silly Igbos go jst cum they talk rubbish, like they did @ https://www.nairaland.com/2289624/meet-ofoni-people-bayelsa-only

worst tin they b calling us lazy SOBos, Igbo's learn to respect other people culture and tradition so urs will b respected, always think u re d best SMH

anyway, Nice 1 op, Nigerians making name in US since 90BC without Nigeria no USA

Hate Beget Hate.

.....the rest you find in my signature.

ezeagu:


These people will not kill me. Mozambique that did not produce 1000 slaves. The lengths!

"The largest minority group in Virginia is African American, at 19.7% as of 2013.[122] Most African American Virginians have been descendants of enslaved Africans who worked on tobacco, cotton, and hemp plantations. These men, women and children were brought from west-central Africa, primarily from Angola and the Bight of Biafra. The Igbo ethnic group of what is now southern Nigeria were the single largest African group among slaves in Virginia.[133] Though the black population was reduced by the Great Migration, since 1965 there has been a reverse migration of blacks returning south.[134] According to the Pew Research Center, the state has the highest concentration of black and white interracial marriages.[135]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia

"Beginning in the early 1700s, Virginia tobacco planters imported increasing numbers of captive Africans to work their plantations. The shift from white indentured servants to enslaved Africans in the colony’s tobacco economy had far-reaching repercussions. Race-based slavery soon became a central feature of life in Virginia, and Africans and their Virginia-born descendents would be treated as property, and denied the freedom and opportunities of white colonists. As settlement expanded westward, enslaved Africans and African Americans were among the settlers in backcountry areas. Nearly 40% of the Africans imported into Virginia during this time were brought from a part of the West African coast called the Bight of Biafra. Many of these captives were Igbo, a people living in the upland area north of the Bight of Biafra in what is now the nation of Nigeria. The West African Farm represents life in a free Igbo household in the Biafran hinterlands in the 1700s."

http://www.frontiermuseum.org/exhibits/1700s-west-africa/

There were no Mozambicans or Angolans of course.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/world/2013/06/where_did_slaves_come_from_in_africa_angola_is_one_place.html

tobtap:
only peeps with INFERIORITY COMPLEX will claim the 75% of the entire slaves in another place,yet no visible proof thru(CULTURE, LANGUAGE AND CUISINE ) to back up their claims.
my candid opinion

IDIO.TIC FOO.LS LIKE U KEEP SPOILING A GOOD THREAD WITH UR SILL.Y BIGOTED WRITE-UP. GO GET A LIFE, AND MAY GOD HV MERCY ON UR SILL..Y SOUL.

OgagaMic:


u see reason y I dislike gbos,,,


Godforbid, never will Any SS form alliance with u, I was making a point u tribalize it, am jst happy we re nt in ur country, men Our land 4 b, Warri Ojukw, or ughelli obi, una 4 convent all our tins to Igbo

tanks to my forefathers, David EJor. and all those who never let us b enslave in 1967 in d name of Biafra..


Gosh, Igbo pls change. dont think other tribe re nothing y u re d king,

God forbid o! They can carry their Biafra and go jump.

bigfrancis21:

True, one of such islands is Carriacou.

Yes. Carriacou1985,a caribbean nairalander will give them the full gist.

pazienza:


But this thread is not about Trinidad and Tobago. Why do you speak like you were made the spokesman for all the other Caribbean nations.

Wouldn't be better if you restrict your generalization and comments to your country T and T?

Indeed it is not but it speaks about the Caribbean to score cheap points between Yoruba and Igbo rivalries.Many Caribbean folks despite our different nationalities and rivalries see ourselves as West Indians...one Caribbean with regards to the English speaking Caribbean.What gives you the authority to speak on Caribbean nations or their cultures?Are you the spokesperson for Barbados or Jamaica?

I decided to respond after the guy/girl said that we in the Caribbean speak Igbo,study Igbo history and practice the culture based on hearsay which I merely sought to correct as I have observed a lot of you speak about Caribbean cultures theoretically but are no way on the ground.There is nothing wrong with him/her holding that view but me being on the ground I am privy to tell him/her that it is not true.That has been by major contribution to the thread.

On that aspect I can speak because I have been to other Caribbean Islands and know quite a bit of Caribbean folks as 10% of our population are foreigners with Bajan and Jamaicans making up a high amount of our population.Many Trinidadian Blacks forefathers are from other Caribbean Islands due to the fact we were not highly populated and hence they migrated to Trinidad due to government policies and economics.Heck my cousin is Bajan and her mother is a Jamaican.

No where did I try to claim that Caribbean folks do not have Igbo ancestry.If Igbo people want to reach out to Igbo descendants in the Caribbean and expose them to Igbo culture I strongly agree that is a positive step.My best friend daughter is half-igbo and because of marital problems her daughter is not being exposed to Igbo culture which I personally find is absurd.Any African group that want to reach out to us because they deem we are there descendants is always welcomed as generally Caribbean folks are quite proud about African contribution to who we are as a people.

Ihuomadinihu:

There are carribbean islands that identify with igbos than Yorubas. Don't be too fast to conclude that carribbean countries lack the presence of igbo cultures.

Umm...did I say that?I merely corrected the guy who claimed we speak Igbo,study Igbo history and practice the culture based on hearsay.Those Caribbean countries or groups who decide to re-establish or strengthen Igbo culture in their midst...I have no problem with that and it is welcomed.

quimicababes:


Indeed it is not but it speaks about the Caribbean to score cheap points between Yoruba and Igbo rivalries.Many Caribbean folks despite our different nationalities and rivalries see ourselves as West Indians...one Caribbean with regards to the English speaking Caribbean.What gives you the authority to speak on Caribbean nations or their cultures?Are you the spokesperson for Barbados or Jamaica?

I decided to respond after the guy/girl said that we in the Caribbean speak Igbo,study Igbo history and practice the culture based on hearsay which I merely sought to correct as I have observed a lot of you speak about Caribbean cultures theoretically but are no way on the ground.There is nothing wrong with him/her holding that view but me being on the ground I am privy to tell him/her that it is not true.That has been by major contribution to the thread.

On that aspect I can speak because I have been to other Caribbean Islands and know quite a bit of Caribbean folks as 10% of our population are foreigners with Bajan and Jamaicans making up a high amount of our population.Many Trinidadian Blacks forefathers are from other Caribbean Islands due to the fact we were not highly populated and hence they migrated to Trinidad due to government policies and economics.Heck my cousin is Bajan and her mother is a Jamaican.

No where did I try to claim that Caribbean folks do not have Igbo ancestry.If Igbo people want to reach out to Igbo descendants in the Caribbean and expose them to Igbo culture I strongly agree that is a positive step.My best friend daughter is half-igbo and because of marital problems her daughter is not being exposed to Igbo culture which I personally find is absurd.Any African group that want to reach out to us because they deem we are there descendants is always welcomed as generally Caribbean folks are quite proud about African contribution to who we are as a people.

You are only re-echoing what he/she was trying to say. He/she made that comment to refute the assertions by some people that caribbeans do not have Igbo ancestry.

the first table shows that more slaves from southeastern Nigeria ended up in North America than slaves from western Nigeria, and more southwestern Nigerian slaves ended up in South America and the carribeans, explains d dominance of ancient Southwestern Nigerian culture in Carribeans and South America.............

interesting

ezeagu:
These signs are disputed as being European designs.



They're not 75%, 75% have at least one ancestor. There are evidences of Igbo culture, language and cuisine in the United States. The word okra was introduced into English by American Igbo slaves. The culture of Jonkonnu and Obeah/Hoodoo practices were introduced by Igbo slaves. Gumbo is very similar to Okro (or okro soup) and it's based on okra.



Virginia/North Carolina Jonkonnu masquerade

O my! Don't bother With Yorubas, they're blinded by hate.

If the story was about yoruba man found in Brazil that oaf would be glad but whenever its Igbo their bitterness comes to a pathetic miserable level

Whoa!!! Such a high percentage contributed to the slavemasters. I imagine OSUs, war slaves n battle captives, offenders contributed to the high numbers. Goes to show that Igbos are the most dissatisfied, worst war torn tribe in Nigeria, It could also mean they gave the whites A LOT of wahala. I like to go with the 1st opinion tho.

bigfrancis21:


Nice expose. Just to correct an anomaly. Yoruba language is not spoken anywhere in the carribean or latin america. If you are referring to ritual recitals done in half-baked yoruba by ifa priests during divination, yes in that sense yoruba is used as language of recital, however, it is not spoken as first or second language by anyone in latin america. When ifa worshippers go home, Spanish/Portuguese still remains their language of communication at home.

It is only on nairaland that you hear irrelevant claims such as 'yoruba is spoken in latin america'. Just as Igbo isn't spoken neither anywhere in the carribean.

Again. It has to be said. That it is common knowledge where the slaves came from. There are some Yoruba that ended up in the USA and there were some Igbos that ended up in Brazil, but Brazil and other Caribbean, Central and South American destinations is by and large where most Yoruba people ended up. They still practicing Santeria in Brazil and Cuba right now.

http://www.powerfulsanteriaspells.com/what-is-santeria.html

Btw, I realize that Portuguese is the official language, but some of the Africans especially some of the Bantu people still speak their languages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilombo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimbundu

Ihuomadinihu:

Lol! The Bajan slaves came from Africa. Barbados has a decent igbo ancestry along with other groups. Common sense is not so common.

Yes, the Igbos are the ones with 'sense', constantly claiming what belongs to other tribes.

Ibo Ideograms ko. Ojukwu hieroglyphics ni.

tzoracle:
Nawa o

All dis igbo posts are starting to annoy me
It shows inferiority complex,stop digging out all this facts like like u need anyones validation

And before u judge
I'm igbo
Full blooded

You're a very useless fellow, irrespective of where you are from. You think we don't have to know where our people are and where our culture have been?

You must be a bat.
May you remain blind.

Ugwuoke347:
That "Jonkonnu" could be a corruption of Ojionu; I mean OJIONU masquerade. Go back to Mbido I

ezeagu post=33392585:

So why did a museum in Virginia specifically build an Igbo village becasue:
"Nearly 40% of the Africans imported into Virginia during this time were brought from a part of the West African coast called the Bight of Biafra. Many of these captives were Igbo, a people living in the upland area north of the Bight of Biafra in what is now the nation of Nigeria. The West African Farm represents life in a free Igbo household in the Biafran hinterlands in the 1700s."
http://www.frontiermuseum.org/exhibits/1700s-west-africa/

gbo text books and see the drawing of the OJIONU masquerade.

There is also Igbo landing in Georgia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_Landing

tobtap:
only peeps with INFERIORITY COMPLEX will claim the 75% of the entire slaves in another place,yet no visible proof thru(CULTURE, LANGUAGE AND CUISINE ) to back up their claims.
my candid opinion

like the way you are feeling now cos u cant trace ur origin.

TheReborn:


Yes, the Igbos are the ones with 'sense', constantly claiming what belongs to other tribes.

Ibo Ideograms ko. Ojukwu hieroglyphics ni.

Yes,the world should go and lick the foots of ancient Egyptians for inventing most of what we use today. Igbos have not taken the credit from Ejaghams,they merely borrowed it. You have deep tribalistic issues.

illiad:


You're a very useless fellow, irrespective of where you are from. You think we don't have to know where our people are and where our culture have been?

You must be a bat.
May you remain blind.

U cn make ur point without spewing obscenities,grow up bruv

AkanIgbo:


Again. It has to be said. That it is common knowledge where the slaves came from. There are some Yoruba that ended up in the USA and there were some Igbos that ended up in Brazil, but Brazil and other Caribbean, Central and South American destinations is by and large where most Yoruba people ended up. They still practicing Santeria in Brazil and Cuba right now.

http://www.powerfulsanteriaspells.com/what-is-santeria.html

Btw, I realize that Portuguese is the official language, but some of the Africans especially some of the Bantu people still speak their languages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilombo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimbundu

Yea, Santeria is practised in brazil and cuba and the yoruba-derived religions have spread to other regions in latin america, not originally there before. The ifa priests in these yoruba-derived religions take classes to learn to read the divination recitals in proper yoruba to some level of fluency. Asides the recitals in a little bit off-accent yoruba by the native portuguese or spanish speaking ifa priests, there is no evidence anywhere of native latin americans speaking yoruba at home or as second language just as you would have in it Nigeria.

I don't see evidence anywhere of the quilombos speaking a bantu language in brazil. They are an african derived group as has been established. But the survival of their original language till today is what needs to be proved.