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Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Nobody: 10:26pm On May 04, 2015
nationwide1:
Let this not be avenue for argument sister. Are you a Muslim? I'm not saying anything from media propaganda.


If Islam means peace, what is Jihad and which group of people practice it? Thanks.

Are you familiar with the events that led to israelites settling in 'the promised land' ? The met people living dere. They fought wars. They shed blood of people who are dere before dem. They took their young virgins and slay dere men and boys. All in the name Of God. Pls enlighten me incase i'm wrong. Jihad is the same. The only misconception is Jihad was for the pple dat 'lived during' muhammed's lifetime not present day muslims. Its the ignorant muslims dat choose to practice Jihad over evangelism. By the way, i'm not a sis. I'm a man, a muslim, pacifist and i'm not a terrorist

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Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by olamkas: 10:26pm On May 04, 2015
BUT WHY HAVE SOME PPL TAKEN TO INSULTING PROPHETS.IS THIS WHAT THE DEVIL HAS COMMANDED YOU TO BE DOING THROUGH ILLUMINATI AND THE LIKES?
WELL YOU WILL MEET US THERE
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Emnyte(m): 10:34pm On May 04, 2015
Insulting other people's believe is not good, but the response is too harsh and deadly for a PEACEFUL religious sect. PEACE is not harsh and deadly to offence.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by olayinka63: 11:10pm On May 04, 2015
can middle east make jest of dead America president and go freely? those that staged the art already knows the result of their action so they want to frame islam because they know muslim will react
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by satmaniac(m): 11:34pm On May 04, 2015
The two guys that shot at the gathering violate the Quranic principle as enshrined in Quran 4:140 " He has instructed you in the scripture
that: if you hear GOD's revelations being mocked
and ridiculed, you shall not sit with them, unless
they delve into another subject. Otherwise, you
will be as guilty as they are. GOD will gather the
hypocrites and the disbelievers together in Hell." Quran 4:140.
Allah never order anyone to be killed just for mocking his message or the messenger. Muhammad's lifetime, he was constantly being mocked and ridiculed. The believers called him "crazy" . and many other derogatory appellation, not once Muhammad order his followers to fight the disbelievers.

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Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by LordReed(m): 11:37pm On May 04, 2015
Oklander:
Muslims? where have you ever seen that? source pls.

Read this article :

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/10/drawing-prophet-islam-muhammad-images

And also take a look at this Wikipedia page:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Samunique(m): 11:45pm On May 04, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:
the respect that muslims have for every prophet of God. no religion has it. . . maybe when jews start to make fun of jesus on media. . . we will see what will happen. . . fools wey call themselves christians. .religion wey jesus never mentioned. . . jesus never go church or command you people to go church. . you fools abolish moses law that jesus said he came to fufil, . . you fools believe hes son of God. and he die for your sins. is it possible for God to sacrifice his alleged son just to forgive your sins? where did God command offering by sacrifice/? foolish pagans. . . . am just really so annoyed upon all these conspiracy theories against islam, kilode.
. . when hitler murder humanity. nobody balmes jesus or chriatianity.. if a muslim transgress, you blame entire muslims,
. . if someone is wrong, we should say hes wrong. this film.is wrong and insultive on islam. . . i know only few reasonable christian will condemn this. . . . idiotic fool that knows nothing about islam and yet judging islam, . . always listening to heresay. . never did verify it. . . no worry. . we will all meet on judgement day
Do really think u need to wait for the judgement day, with what u just wrote here?
that's the problem with some of u people, one dirty Atheist made a fun of your prophet u are here raining abuses on Christians and Christianity.
Or what gives the impression that everyone that comments on this topic is a christian? why is it that u people always blame everything on Christians ?

And u a Yoruba man for that matter, u should berry your head in shame for what u wrote here,
and u should be closely monitored because I see the traits of extremism and terrorism in you.

U say people should not throw stones but u are throwing rocks. Can see now that most problems lie with u Muslims ? Shame on you !!!

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Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Champion01(m): 11:45pm On May 04, 2015
U keep insulting Holy Prophet, yet more people re following(just lyk Buhari's case). U keep saying Islam is a religion of 'violence', yet more xtians/oda believers re willingly converting to dis Islam cus dey av seen d truth. Have u ever asked urself why? Bcus Allah has already made dis religion a perfect one nd eventually Islam will prevail(it's written in Holy Book). Surely, BH, Al-Qaeda, ISIS among odas are not representing Islam/Muslims, so stop using dis 'sponsored' sects to judge Islam/muslims. When Frederick Lugard was enslaving Nigeria, no one condemned dat act. When Adolf Hitler(a man who was even nominated for a Nobel Peace prize) was killing humanity, no one used him to judge all oda xtians. If Mohammad actually preached violent as u guys av claimed, why can't Sultan of Sokoto nd oda islamic scholars start an unending war against oda believers? I'm not here to argue with xtians cus by doing so is lyk am trying to convince a monkey dat honey is sweeter dan banana. Will it ever believe me? NO. May Allah bless Mohammad nd his companions. Ameeen.

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Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by chiedu7: 12:23am On May 05, 2015
Champion01:
U keep insulting Holy Prophet, yet more people re following(just lyk Buhari's case). U keep saying Islam is a religion of 'violence', yet more xtians/oda believers re willingly converting to dis Islam cus dey av seen d truth. Have u ever asked urself why? Bcus Allah has already made dis religion a perfect one nd eventually Islam will prevail(it's written in Holy Book). Surely, BH, Al-Qaeda, ISIS among odas are not representing Islam/Muslims, so stop using dis 'sponsored' sects to judge Islam/muslims. When Frederick Lugard was enslaving Nigeria, no one condemned dat act. When Adolf Hitler(a man who was even nominated for a Nobel Peace prize) was killing humanity, no one used him to judge all oda xtians. If Mohammad actually preached violent as u guys av claimed, why can't Sultan of Sokoto nd oda islamic scholars start an unending war against oda believers? I'm not here to argue with xtians cus by doing so is lyk am trying to convince a monkey dat honey is sweeter dan banana. Will it ever believe me? NO. May Allah bless Mohammad nd his companions. Ameeen.
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If more people are converting to Islam then why do moslems go around blowing Christians up?

How come the son founder of the founder of hamas is
now a christian and says Islam will collapse in 10 yrs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnJQbQOKc34
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by swargon: 12:51am On May 05, 2015
[b][/b]Islam iz evil!!!!!!!!!.....period......... ;DIslam iz evil!!!!!!!!!.....period.........
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Slimmos(m): 12:54am On May 05, 2015
simpleseyi:



Capital NO. No human being will support any act of killing for any reason whatsoever. However, it is wrong to continually intentionally abuse and provoke about 2 billion people (Muslims) all over the world every now and then. This is an unwarranted provocation. You wont be happy if your parents are being mocked or if Jesus (PBUH) is being abused, even if you will do nothing, you will still not give such a person a warm embrace. What is the essence of abusing our Prophet every now and then. Do we Muslims do that to other religions every now and then?
my bro come to the north and u would see imams n islamic scholars saying derogatory things abouy Jesus some event resort to saying he is noting and powerless. Bro u need to listen to many islamic preaching or wazzzi, they always insult christians and Jesus everyyday
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by jaymoni(m): 1:29am On May 05, 2015
Y muslims have fun in taking people lives. BH, ISIS.

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Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Ancientx(m): 2:23am On May 05, 2015
Slimmos:
my bro come to the north and u would see imams n islamic scholars saying derogatory things abouy Jesus some event resort to saying he is noting and powerless. Bro u need to listen to many islamic preaching or wazzzi, they always insult christians and Jesus everyyday

Lol.. First i will like to disagree with whatever that goes against the teaching of the prophets and those imams are either illiterates or blinded by tribalism but using religion as a facade. You should try to listen to real educated islamic scholars online like Zakir Naik, Jamal badawi and so on. On the other note pastors also preach against Islam as well.. come on bro.. i can recollect even Islam was painted the anti-christ, the last election was an eye opener. I can give you several books from pastors to evangelist that has written a lot of hate about prophet muhammed (pbuh) so dont go there abeg. What we should look at is what the book actually teaches and not what people do.

See We should respect each other simple. Remember the pen is mightier than the sword..

Say no to violence of any form.

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Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by mubarakopeyemi(m): 2:32am On May 05, 2015
PedroJP:



If i can believe that all sources of Theism points to one God, i totally doubt without reservation if Islam's god points to this same mighty God
FOOL
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Champion01(m): 5:18am On May 05, 2015
chiedu7:

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If more people are converting to Islam then why do moslems go around blowing Christians up?

How come the son founder of the founder of hamas is
now a christian and says Islam will collapse in 10 yrs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnJQbQOKc34
Islam will collapse in 10yrs? I can't stop laughing. U see if u read my previous post wella, u'd discover dat dis sects are aparently being sponsored by enemies of Islam simply to tarnish Islam as a religion (I knw u'd neva bliv dis). No RELIGION in dis world would promote violence not even Jew or Hindu. Again, stop judging over 2billion people by dis extremists as u can't judge a book by its cover. I av xtians as friends, infact, my room mates @school is a xtian. We live in peace nd harmony.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by thecommunist(m): 6:51am On May 05, 2015
Slimmos:
my bro come to the north and u would see imams n islamic scholars saying derogatory things abouy Jesus some event resort to saying he is noting and powerless. Bro u need to listen to many islamic preaching or wazzzi, they always insult christians and Jesus everyyday
we dont kill dem or fight for our God, we just fold our arms and wait for our God to defend his Name...then suddenly, Boko haram is killing them, kidnapping and raping their young women!...and you think that it is mere co-incidence? we wont retaliate like them nor attempt to defend our Almighty God like them, what will punish them has already been planted amidst them.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by authority2006(m): 6:57am On May 05, 2015
eleojo23:
From what I know, gods are supposed to be more powerful than men so it beats my imagination how ordinary men take up arms to defend a powerful being.
I just don't understand why men have chosen to fight for an Almighty God.
Or is this God just a figment of their imagination? If he is real, he will fight for himself. Not so? undecided
Muhammed is/was not God, someone is confused here. here
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Ekken: 7:45am On May 05, 2015
eleojo23:
From what I know, gods are supposed to be more powerful than men so it beats my imagination how ordinary men take up arms to defend a powerful being.
I just don't understand why men have chosen to fight for an Almighty God.
Or is this God just a figment of their imagination? If he is real, he will fight for himself. Not so? undecided

mind you, muhammad is not God, he is just a messenger of God like jesus.

so, he is powerless like jesus, you & I.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by iliyande(m): 7:51am On May 05, 2015
Ekken:


mind you, muhammad is not God, he is just a messenger of God like jesus.

so, he is powerless like jesus, you & I.

Masseng what? Who sent him? Don't be deceived that guy is a self claimed prophet. No book in the world prophecy mohammad coming not even Hindu nor budi not to talk of the Bible.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Champion01(m): 8:01am On May 05, 2015
The fact is, no one would believe each if u guys continue to argue from every dawns to dusks cus we av different ideology. World would start having peace if we start respecting eachother's opinion/ideology/methodology.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by eleojo23: 8:25am On May 05, 2015
authority2006:
Muhammed is/was not God, someone is confused here. here
There is no confusion. He is God's prophet, right? In other words, he represents God on earth, not so? So let God fight for his prophet/mouthpiece.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by fanysteve: 8:44am On May 05, 2015
sexybaby22:
these people just dont get it. You can mess with JESUS but you cant mess with muhammed.
muhammed is a mugu
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by fanysteve: 8:51am On May 05, 2015
jaymoni:
Y muslims have fun in taking people lives. BH, ISIS.
buhari and muhammed is a mugu
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by shahydbinaliyu(m): 9:14am On May 05, 2015
Samunique:
Do really think u need to wait for the judgement day, with what u just wrote here?
that's the problem with some of u people, one dirty Atheist made a fun of your prophet u are here raining abuses on Christians and Christianity.
Or what gives the impression that everyone that comments on this topic is a christian? why is it that u people always blame everything on Christians ?

And u a Yoruba man for that matter, u should berry your head in shame for what u wrote here,
and u should be closely monitored because I see the traits of extremism and terrorism in you.

U say people should not throw stones but u are throwing rocks. Can see now that most problems lie with u Muslims ? Shame on you !!!




i dont care about what you think? the act of mocking prophet mohammad by anybody is bad. we should all condemn it. . most christians that posted ea support the act. . .


you are the one that should be ashamed and think twice before you post. . .


only fools and stupid idiot human provokes the innocence of muslims and when muslims got angry. . you call terrorist . . .smg
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by nagoma(m): 9:31am On May 05, 2015
ChappyChase:

Bleep you and your miserable peace!!
Hollywood has been blaspheming Christ for ages and christians has never killed any one about it, but all muslim are calling blood just because of cartoon!!!
Shame on that shameless religion called islam!

Just because you insult your father regularly it doesn't mean you can insult mine. See Fooolishness angry
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by iliyande(m): 9:46am On May 05, 2015
My final opinion on this is that:

I am not in support of provoking moslems, not because I am afraid, but based on the teachings of Jesus Christ on the love for our enemies.

I know that moslems especially from the North hates christians, (I am from the North) they kill and burn our churches at a slightest provocation.

I am sorry to say this, but the truth. Boko Haram was initially created or formed to wipe christians away from the North. But trust JESUS, he turned things around for ONLY THOSE WHO TRUST AND BELIEVE IN HIM.

lastly, please anyone who is provoked by my writeup should please forgive me in the spirit of Christ Jesus. I love you all. JESUS CHRIST IS SURELY COMING BACK FOR HIS PEOPLE.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Ancientx(m): 9:57am On May 05, 2015
iliyande:
My final opinion on this is that:

I am not in support of provoking moslems, not because I am afraid, but based on the teachings of Jesus Christ on the love for our enemies.

I know that moslems especially from the North hates christians, (I am from the North) they kill and burn our churches at a slightest provocation.

I am sorry to say this, but the truth. Boko Haram was initially created or formed to wipe christians away from the North. But trust JESUS, he turned things around for ONLY THOSE WHO TRUST AND BELIEVE IN HIM.

lastly, please anyone who is provoked by my writeup should please forgive me in the spirit of Christ Jesus. I love you all. JESUS CHRIST IS SURELY COMING BACK FOR HIS PEOPLE.

Well understood and of course no offence taken.. At the same time ask for forgiveness because you might be wrong about your inference about BH created to wipe christians from the north. Thats why in terms of conspiracy or saying something we dont fully understand we say Allah knows best. I agree that the north hates christians but dont forget they hate anyone who is not hausa/fulani because we have heard them kill yoruba and other ethnic groups at the slightest provocation so i believe it has more to do about their nature as an ethnic group rather than religion.

As for Bokoharam i think its more political than religion IMO.

Like i said Allah knows best.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by nagoma(m): 9:57am On May 05, 2015
Slimmos:
my bro come to the north and u would see imams n islamic scholars saying derogatory things abouy Jesus some event resort to saying he is noting and powerless. Bro u need to listen to many islamic preaching or wazzzi, they always insult christians and Jesus everyyday

You are totally ignorant . No Muslim will ever insult Jesus . You have to believe in Jesus as an apostle of God before you are considered a Muslim. Please read the last 2 verses of the second chapter of the Quran. This fact is stated and in many Islamic religious books as well. Jesus ( Peace be on him) is revered so much in Islam and Muslims are aggrieved when western heathens insult Jesus .
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by iliyande(m): 10:00am On May 05, 2015
Ancientx:


Well understood and of course no offence taken.. At the same time ask for forgiveness because you might be wrong about your inference about BH created to wipe christians from the north. Thats why in terms of conspiracy or saying something we dont fully understand we say Allah knows best. I agree that the north hates christians but dont forget they hate anyone who is not hausa/fulani because we have heard them kill yoruba and other ethnic groups at the slightest provocation so i believe it has more to do about their nature as an ethnic group rather than religion.

As for Bokoharam i think its more political than religion IMO.

Like i said Allah knows best.

I have nothing against that because I have strong evidence on my allegations.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Hero10001: 10:11am On May 05, 2015
Ancientx:


Hmmm thanks for the info which is unnecessary because i was referring to the spanish inquisition sorry if i didnt make that clear earlier and i wasnt referring to the fact that they actually fought the war but pointing it out to you that christianity has his large share in terrorism and still up to date. If you want references just say it.

To answer the second you made a very good point by accepting what we are all asking for RESPECT. You said Islam respect but dont trust but i beg to differ if the poster or artist have respected other peoples believe then we wont be here having this discussion.. Trust is something huge that is built over time but respect has to come first bro. I dont know about you but i respect all my friends but there are some i dont trust with certain issues and we have been friends for almost 20 years now and it hasnt crumble and i dont see it crumbling because i respect them for who they are.

As for Jesus(pbuh) comment well he speaks in parables sometimes, exaggerate and most of the time over his disciples head.. Just like the verse that he told them to get sword to harm themselves is that for protection?.. Or the parable where he told them to bring is enemies here and slay them before him? and many more.. I agree we must learn to live with one another but dont forget Jesus wasnt the meek and gentle Jesus yall described him as just read the bible or if you want i can give you more reference.

We should learn to forgive other but you and i know they did it on purpose. We should also condemn provocations in the name of freedom of speech as well. As the quran says.. Surah 42: verse 40 - 43 paying close attention to 43 it says and i quote. "And verily, whosoever shows patience and forgives that would truly be from the things recommended by Allah."

Tell me what is written in the quran is about the painting.. You said people wont lie on muhammed(pbuh) for anything?.. are you for real? Maybe because you are not a muslim.. I have a collections of lies written against him..As long as i don't abuse anyone's mother or believe If abusing my Mother or Religious believe will make me intolerable then so be it..

Btw the bible reference you gave was talking about a brother in same faith.. Maybe you should give me another reference.

Thank you and goodnight.




Okay, is there any meekeness greater than these;
They aint parables.

Matt 5:45, But I say to you, love your enemies and bless the
one who curses you, and do what is beautiful to
the one who hates you, and pray over those who
take you by force and persecute you.

Mark 12:31, 'Love your neighbour as yourself .."

Luke 6:29, If someone slaps you on one cheek, offer the other cheek also. If someone demands your coat, offer your shirt also.

Matt 5:5, Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

That was Jesus talking to "every faith" and the list is endless, else you have a different definition for meekeness..

Unlike the hate speeches by moha and his likes.
(I don't wanna put the quranic verses)
" If someone puts their hands on you
make sure they never put their hands on
anybody else again".
-Malcolm X.

However, I said pple won't lie on moha for anything cos if you lie on Jesus, it won't sell cos we'rall know the truth, e.g you cant tell us that Jesus raped kids, killed men blah blah?! Omg!! cos it didn't happened at any point of his life on earth..The guy is clean and blameless.
I think same thing should apply to moha when pple lie on him, you dare em to point to where it was recorded.


I'm not disputing the fact that christian don't breed terrorists too but extremism is bad.
I think what we need is love, cos love conquers all and that's why the greatest commandment of Jesus is Love.
If there is love, there won't be provocations or ts likes, it will bound us together and we will live in peace.
However, such won't happen cos this is earth where the devil is king somehow blood must flow to balance the ecosystem.
Over 60million pple dies yearly, if there aint no killings who would give up life willingly?

Well, this discussion will go down the wire if we don't stop now.
I object to violence because violence is the last refuge of the incompetent and when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

May the good Lord guide and protect us from every fiery darts of the wicked IJMN Amen.
Re: Anti Mohammed Cartoon Shootings In America by Ancientx(m): 10:32am On May 05, 2015
Hero10001:





Okay, is there any meekeness greater than these;
They aint parables.

Matt 5:45, But I say to you, love your enemies and bless the
one who curses you, and do what is beautiful to
the one who hates you, and pray over those who
take you by force and persecute you.

Mark 12:31, 'Love your neighbour as yourself .."

Luke 6:29, If someone slaps you on one cheek, offer the other cheek also. If someone demands your coat, offer your shirt also.

Matt 5:5, Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

That was Jesus talking to "every faith" and the list is endless, else you have a different definition for meekeness..

Unlike the hate speeches by moha and his likes.
(I don't wanna put the quranic verses)
" If someone puts their hands on you
make sure they never put their hands on
anybody else again".
-Malcolm X.

However, I said pple won't lie on moha for anything cos if you lie on Jesus, it won't sell cos we'rall know the truth, e.g you cant tell us that Jesus raped kids, killed men blah blah?! Omg!! cos it didn't happened at any point of his life on earth..The guy is clean and blameless.
I think same thing should apply to moha when pple lie on him, you dare em to point to where it was recorded.


I'm not disputing the fact that christian don't breed terrorists too but extremism is bad.
I think what we need is love, cos love conquers all and that's why the greatest commandment of Jesus is Love.
If there is love, there won't be provocations or ts likes, it will bound us together and we will live in peace.
However, such won't happen cos this is earth where the devil is king somehow blood must flow to balance the ecosystem.
Over 60million pple dies yearly, if there aint no killings who would give up life willingly?

Well, this discussion will go down the wire if we don't stop now.
I object to violence because violence is the last refuge of the incompetent and when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

May the good Lord guide and protect us from every fiery darts of the wicked IJMN Amen.

I agree with you in some cases but what am saying is that you can pick and choose selected verses that suit you. In as much as there are verses that are non violent there are also some that are violent in the bible spoken by Jesus so stop selecting to suit yourself.. We are in a discussion to learn theres no point holding back verses.. State the hate speeches in the quran and lets hear it.. You said muhammed (pbuh) rapes kid(s) i will like to see a verse or see some reference please..

About Jesus cant be lied on because y'all know the truth.. If all christians like you claim knows the truth why is it for fact that 90% atheist have christian /catholic backgrounds?.. And enough books have been written why they believe Jesus Dont exist. Talking about all know the truth.. This is a simple truth anyone can be lied on same way several words have been attributed to the person of Jesus but they are not actually Jesus words which is recorded in the bible is that a lie? If you want evidence let me know..

This is the kind of discussions we need with evidences so as to learn and appreciate each other more. You talk about love but whats love when we neither understand nor respect each other.. We should be open minded and learn from each other and appreciate why this brother reasons like this or that not pretend that we should be the same in every aspect. We should all object violence but i still stand to the fact that terrorism/extremism is not a monopoly to any religion.

Salam.

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