₦airaland Forum

ZUBY77:
Evils.
Whatever Nigeria is today, these two also contributed massively to it.
But the problem of black man is that old evil is forgotten the moment new evil shows up.

Very true that we black people have a very short time frame/reference either for looking back at the past or for projecting into the future.
We are so engrossed with the here & now hence we remain the scumbags of the earth depending on other races to bail us out on everything including ordinary diseases like malaria

Head. Or tail I don't see the masses winning any war against their oppressors.
One way or the other these people have contributed negatively to this country. They still see and chill together according to OP.
God is never a friend of the downtrodden.
I will never be poor in my life.

Keneking:
Jonathan should now be preparing to faced tribunal....after office. Can anyone what is on the fire cooking.....

Sai Buhari

certificate saga

OBJ is like father to all politicians and technocrats in Nigeria. They can still wine and dine with him than his counterpart and former head of state, Babangida.

ZUBY77:
Evils.

Whatever Nigeria is today, these two also contributed massively to it.
But the problem of black man is that old evil is forgotten the moment new evil shows up.

In another year from now, we will be engrossed with how bad Buhari is and nobody will be talking about Jonathan.

The problem is not with these people but with Nigerians or should I say the black man who is condemned to the pitfalls of history.....repeatedly.

coolhamid:
SLS takes the Emir of a thing so serious...
This guy should be managing our finance in this country and not sitting on a Throne in kano ..
He is an asset


I believe he would be Useful as a Finance Minister than being an Emir of Kano.

Am dedicating this space to my wife who is in NYSC camp presently...
I miss her no be small and the three weeks camp be like three years for my eyes...



Coolhamid

Hmmmmm for the wife in camp

there is a striking similarities btw OBJ and Arsene Wenger.... like wenger OBJ tends nt to send his critics......
like IBB who is Maradona of Naija, OBJ is d Messi

davidebamidele:
If she were your legit wife, she should've been redeployed back to where you are based....

She would be redeployed after the three weeks in camp, when she provides evidence that she's married... Newly married though.

henrysam:
Head. Or tail I don't see the masses winning any war against their oppressors.

Did our longer-nosed fellow homo sapiens not win the war against their oppressors?

HOW did they do it such that we black people are eager to be their voluntary SLAVES now

both of them are buffoons...

iyobs7:
He was sacked because of his incompetence and irresponsible and wayward practice while he was the CBN Governor. If you have a venture or a company don't tell me you will employ someone who is changing figures and does not verify his account before blowing the whistle...
Shiorrrr

Shame on you friend of thieves!

Alhaji Olusegun Obasanj

iyobs7:
He was sacked because of his incompetence and irresponsible and wayward practice while he was the CBN Governor. If you have a venture or a company don't tell me you will employ someone who is changing figures and does not verify his account before blowing the whistle...

Shiorrrr

Pathetic f.ool.

anonimi:
So that the man can resume the dashing of OUR money to people without any regard for the rules





Many of our MUMU fellow citizens do not realise that was AFTER this query that Sanusi started singing about missing $50 billion then $20 billion etc from NNPC

We are too GULLIBLE I swear

Lies. SLS said if he was not permitted by law to make those donations he would refund the money from his personal account.

And that fictitious query came after the letter he wrote to GEJ had been leaked. Against the norm, GEJ didn't give him a chance to respond to the query instead they touted it as the reason for his suspension.

Going by the same Token Abba Moro and Deziani too should have been suspended while they responded to queries concerning their respective ministries. But they were not, because to GEJ, stealing is not corruption. While the person who warns you about the corruption faces the brunt for your recklessness and incompetence.

Thank God we voted your demonic a$$ out!

Discussion on how to treat Jonathan's fu¢k up is underway. You ain't seen anything yet.

coolhamid:
SLS takes the Emir of a thing so serious...
This guy should be managing our finance in this country and not sitting on a Throne in kano ..
He is an asset


I believe he would be Useful as a Finance Minister than being an Emir of Kano.

Am dedicating this space to my wife who is in NYSC camp presently...
I miss her no be small and the three weeks camp be like three years for my eyes...



Coolhamid

I hope say no be abuja camp o? becos if na abuja then she go get more 'orientation' than u bargain end for o

Sanusi is also a thief

why was he forming saint then ??


useless Dan buzu

Celebrating the death of the common enemy.
What next? The party can't go on forever.

iyobs7:
He was sacked because of his incompetence and irresponsible and wayward practice while he was the CBN Governor. If you have a venture or a company don't tell me you will employ someone who is changing figures and does not verify his account before blowing the whistle...

Shiorrrr

Only a confused jerk changes figures the way sls did. He should bury his head in shame for that singular act because as cbn governor, he was an authority and had all information he needed before making a case. I wonder how Nigeria's celebrate corrupt, inarticulate and confused people who proud themselves as professionals. If the MD of Diamond banks presents 3 figures on the same issue on 3 different occasions, won't he be fired? Yet a cbn governor behaved like a fool and a lot of fools think he should be kept because he is a northerner 'a sacred cow' a 'superior Nigerian'
Nonsence.

coolhamid:
SLS takes the Emir of a thing so serious...
This guy should be managing our finance in this country and not sitting on a Throne in kano ..
He is an asset


I believe he would be Useful as a Finance Minister than being an Emir of Kano.

Am dedicating this space to my wife who is in NYSC camp presently...
I miss her no be small and the three weeks camp be like three years for my eyes...



Coolhamid

if SLS had contest as the president i would have prefered it. GMB

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coolhamid:
SLS takes the Emir of a thing so serious...
This guy should be managing our finance in this country and not sitting on a Throne in kano ..
He is an asset


I believe he would be Useful as a Finance Minister than being an Emir of Kano.

Am dedicating this space to my wife who is in NYSC camp presently...
I miss her no be small and the three weeks camp be like three years for my eyes...



Coolhamid

No worry I go help you dey gbensh am for camp

iyobs7:
He was sacked because of his incompetence and irresponsible and wayward practice while he was the CBN Governor. If you have a venture or a company don't tell me you will employ someone who is changing figures and does not verify his account before blowing the whistle...

Shiorrrr

Who laughed last?

Did Obssanjo not midwife the present most corrupt and expensive presidential system of government for Nigeria?

After the British helped Nigerian federal troops to force old southeast region back to one Nigeria in the civil war, Nigeria abandoned nearly every thing about the British, including British Right hand drive, British Pound, imperial weight/measures system, etc.

Parliamentary system of government would have suited Nigeria since then.

In Parliamentary system, policy makers and parliamentarians debate, approve or reject nearly every important government move, and without bottle necks and too much official red tape.

In this presidential system in unitary government in Nigeria, a few persons sit in Aso Rock and formulate government policies for about 170million people.

And some people in Nigeria continue to fool the population that corruption can be stopped in Nigeria's peculiar political structure with presidential system of government.

Anybody suggesting to OBJ and the Kano emir, Sanusi, about returning parliamentary system of government to Nigeria may be committing a sin before the two.

That's the photo of two snakes;
Make that one snake and one baboon

millionaireman:
Did Obssanjo not midwife the present most corrupt and expensive presidential system of government for Nigeria?

After the British helped Nigerian federal troops to force old southeast region back to one Nigeria in the civil war, Nigeria abandoned nearly every thing about the British, including British Right hand drive, British Pound, imperial weight/measures system, etc.

Parliamentary system of government would have suited Nigeria since then.

In Parliamentary system, policy makers and parliamentarians debate, approve or reject nearly every important government move, and without bottle necks and too much official red tape.

In this presidential system in unitary government in Nigeria, a few persons sit in Aso Rock and formulate government policies for about 170million people.

And some people in Nigeria continue to fool the population that corruption can be stopped in Nigeria's peculiar political structure with presidential system of government.

Anybody suggesting to OBJ and the Kano emir, Sanusi, about returning parliamentary system of government to Nigeria may be committing a sin before the two.

Interesting post....

The problem with parliamentary system in Nigeria is that it really made our tribal divisions much sharper. In other words....we ended up with parties that were essentially tribal interest organizations....which did much to make governing the country difficult...and which was one of the causes of the civil war BTW.

The American system we practice on the other hand ended much of the tribalism by forcing many of the old tribal parties to become more national in outlook(eg the Second Republic....where the old NPC and AG had to get out of their shell and gain members across the country to win elections. Under the old parliamentary system....NPC would have just used its majority seats to form a minority government.).

I know our system is messed up by corruption....but so was the old parliamentary system (Read Nzeogwu's coup speech...where he refers to ten per centers....the euphemism for corrupt officials/politicians back then. As it was in the beginning....).

Remember it was not OBJ who decided that we should go American....it was the Constituent Assembly of 1977-78...whose delegates included a lot of the old 1960's politicians who had seen first hand the tribal warfest that was Nigeria's parliamentary system....and decided that American system was better....and thus they enshrined it in the 1979 Constitution....which the 1999 Constitution is just a revision of. Their decisions were confirmed in the 1988 Constituent Assembly, the 1995 Constitutional Conference, the 2006 Conference and even the 2014 Conference. No one wants to go back to the Parliament.

The lady behind them is the recently sacked Obasanjo Foundation CEO.....Anne Walsh.....

bushdoc9919:
Interesting post....

The problem with parliamentary system in Nigeria is that it really made our tribal divisions much sharper. In other words....we ended up with parties that were essentially tribal interest organizations....which did much to make governing the country difficult...and which was one of the causes of the civil war BTW.

The American system we practice on the other hand ended much of the tribalism by forcing many of the old tribal parties to become more national in outlook(eg the Second Republic....where the old NPC and AG had to get out of their shell and gain members across the country to win elections. Under the old parliamentary system....NPC would have just used its majority seats to form a minority government.).

I know our system is messed up by corruption....but so was the old parliamentary system (Read Nzeogwu's coup speech...where he refers to ten per centers....the euphemism for corrupt officials/politicians back then. As it was in the beginning....).

Remember it was not OBJ who decided that we should go American....it was the Constituent Assembly of 1977-78...whose delegates included a lot of the old 1960's politicians who had seen first hand the tribal warfest that was Nigeria's parliamentary system....and decided that American system was better....and thus they enshrined it in the 1979 Constitution....which the 1999 Constitution is just a revision of. Their decisions were confirmed in the 1988 Constituent Assembly, the 1995 Constitutional Conference, the 2006 Conference and even the 2014 Conference. No one wants to go back to the Parliament.

Interesting too.


Note: NPC and Action Congress were political parties under the old Parliamentary System of government in Nigeria - not under the Presidential System as your post showed..

That Nigeria made more development strides during the few years of Parliamentary System, than since the Presidential System, can only be contested by a fellow arguing for argument sake.

Obssanjo as military HoS supervised the Constituent Assembly that midwifed the 1979 Constitution which was progressively revised by subsequent Constituent Assemblies also supervised by machine gun-carrying military dictators and which birthed the present 1999 constitution. Guess what a military dictator could do to influence the civilians drafting the constitution to have the type of constitution the dictator wanted.

Which country in today's world operates a constitution ultimately supervised by military dictators with origin from one area of a country of multi-ethnic groups? Perhaps only Nigeria.

The same class of dictators from one side of Nigeria divided Nigeria into states through wrong use of land mass as a criterion, with resultant proliferation of states and accruing over-representation of the far north in Nigeria's polity.

What Nigeria ought to have at the end of states creation is equal multiples of states from the federating units that existed when states started to be created.

Observe that worse tribe-based political parties like UPN, NPN and the NPP emerged after adoption of Presidential System of government in 1979, such that the ruling NPN had to look for a partnering political party to be able to govern. Was that not like resorting to Parliamentary System of government?

Buhari struck and terminated the Presidential System experiment then over excuse of corruption which Nzeogwu also gave as reason for terminating the earlier Parliamentary System.

IBB's two party system aimed to excise tribal political parties within a Presidential System was aborted at conception - guess why.

And you may not agree, today, Nigeria has entered a most divisive political party formation phenomenon where political eggheads from tribal groups form alliances unarguably aimed at taking over the control of oil resources. Tomorrow may prove me right or wrong on this.

As for the apparent obsession by some set of Nigerians to hold on to Presidential System because they believe it is the path to keep Nigeria one, that is borne out of diffidence on the part of those with that obsession. Nationhood is never built by force. Just marking time waiting for the bad day. Only crude oil proceeds weld Nigeria together.

Nigeria's Presidential System of government with unitary government system in a multi-ethnic country has created an indolent citizenry which sits down with little or no work, no tax, and wait for Abuja for monthly doles.

And what do we have about a "United Nigeria" where most southerners have been chased away from the northern part of the country, yet all parts depend on Abuja central government for sustenance? In which other country of the world do we have a situation like this?

A National Conference in a democratic environment to draw up a democratic political structure and constitution is what Nigeria urgently needs.

coolhamid:
SLS takes the Emir of a thing so serious...
This guy should be managing our finance in this country and not sitting on a Throne in kano ..
He is an asset


I believe he would be Useful as a Finance Minister than being an Emir of Kano.

Am dedicating this space to my wife who is in NYSC camp presently...
I miss her no be small and the three weeks camp be like three years for my eyes...



Coolhamid

Hamid,

Move go de town wey de NYSC Camp dey o!

In PSquare's voice: "E no easy eeeehhh......."

Forum352:
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Caught!

I don't like seeing Sanusi in royal regalia all the time. It simply does not make sense.