₦airaland Forum

voltron:
Why am I laughing.. There are thousands of jobless graduates who went through nysc. companies are hiring far less graduates and more polytechnic and noun students to reduce human capital cost. Who dey suffer now

y are you so pathetic. Are trying to categorize polytechnic graduates as less worthless people or the HND holders as non graduates. Don't be a bigot

Raxxye:
Is that why you wrote all that long epistle?
Isn't NOUN a part-time degree program? Part-time graduates(even from conventional universities) do not participate in the NYSC from the word go!

And what's the biggie about NYSC by the way? Those of us who went do sometimes wish we had used our time for better things to improve our lives.

Point of correction please.
NOUN is not a part time degree program. It's a 100 percent full time program. The beauty of the school is that it runs through ODL (Open Distance Learning) and its highly sophisticated. The school runs it's normal academic programs and its not affected by ASUU strike.

bushdoc9919:
The last time something like the subject was broached......there was weeping and gnashing of teeth all over.

NYSC is here to stay....unless you want raised levels of low literacy (NYSC corpers virtually run our rural schools these days....).

you are perfectly right..I am a serving corp member in a rural area I can specifically say youth corp members serve as 60 percent teachers..they even need more..its that bad ...someone even mused about me staying ..I say if I hear..no light,no banks ,no clubs ,no supemarket e.t.c ...I don try my best for tis village

sochima1989:
. For me? NYCS should remain till d end of Nigeria cos of NCCF...........its doing so much our churches and gov't can't do through those corps members

were you an Nccf papa.

ikkkkk:
Point of correction please.
NOUN is not a part time degree program. It's a 100 percent full time program. The beauty of the school is that it runs through ODL (Open Distance Learning) and its highly sophisticated. The school runs it's normal academic programs and its not affected by ASUU strike.

Stop deceiving yourself. What's the difference between part-time and distance learning ?

nzeobi:
I even suggest buhari should ban that NYSC stuff, the only thing people do there is just to go take pictures.
Every graduate should be given like 500k to venture in agriculture or something else and not wasting one year wearing khaki and T shirt around.
My opinion though

Best comment for the day.

ikkkkk:
Point of correction please.
NOUN is not a part time degree program. It's a 100 percent full time program. The beauty of the school is that it runs through ODL (Open Distance Learning) and its highly sophisticated. The school runs it's normal academic programs and its not affected by ASUU strike.

bur I heard noun admission comes out as soon as u apply . N they don't even use jamb. Why do you think they will be allowed for service.

Iamsynord:
haa..My friend Chibuzor that stayed at home for 4 years..and finally went to Open university to study law for five years.. So he no go do NYSC ??
My guy way never get babe way day hope say na NYSC camp God go do am..choi

haha dis one strong nobi lies.

ikkkkk:
Point of correction please.
NOUN is not a part time degree program. It's a 100 percent full time program. The beauty of the school is that it runs through ODL (Open Distance Learning) and its highly sophisticated. The school runs it's normal academic programs and its not affected by ASUU strike.

Abeg, make we hear word jare! No be only sophisticated!
NOUN ko, Pronoun ni!

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bilms:
OPEN UNIVERSITY: BARRED FROM SERVING THE NATION
Abdulrazaq O Hamzat

Let me begin by asking a question, is it right to bar some citizens from serving the nation without the basis of law? I think not, but as it stands, graduates of the first of its kind National Open University of Nigeria has been officially barred or excluded from serving our father land. This should be a source of concern to all meaning Nigerians. After the end of the Civil War, the leadership of the country thought of a way to re-unite the country in an effort to bridge the fracture caused by the civil war, and after much deliberation, the National Youth Service Corp was given birth to. According to SECTION 1 of the NYSC decree, it states that, there is hereby established a scheme to be known as the National Youth Service corps (in this Decree referred to as "the Service Corps". The decree states that, the objectives of the service corps shall be: • to inculcate discipline in Nigerian youths by instilling in them a tradition of industry at work, and of patriotic and loyal service to Nigeria in any situation they may find themselves • to raise the moral tone of the Nigerian youths by giving them the opportunity to learn about higher ideals of national achievements, social and cultural improvement • to develop in the Nigerian youths the attitudes of mind, acquired through shared experience and suitable training, which will make them more amenable to mobilization in the national interest • to enable Nigerian youths acquire the spirit of self reliance by encouraging them to develop skills for self employment • to contribute to the accelerated growth of the national economy • to develop common ties among the Nigerian youths and promote national unity and integration • to remove prejudices, eliminate ignorance-and confirm at first hand the many similarities among Nigerians of all ethnic groups • to develop a sense of corporate existence and common destiny of the people of Nigeria In order to achieve the objectives in this decree, the service corps shall ensure: o that the Nigerian youths are exposed to the modes of living of the people in different parts of Nigeria o that the Nigerian youths are encouraged to eschew religious intolerance by accommodating religious differences. The above are the reason for the establishment of NYSC. However, it was a surprise that today, the same NYSC which was founded to bridge divide has now resorted to discrimination without basis. This is against the principle of the scheme. Going through the NYSC decree, those qualified to participate in scheme were well spelt out. SECTION 2 of the decree states that: Subject to the provisions of this Decree, every Nigerian shall: • if, at the end of the academic year 1972-73 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent academic year, he shall have graduated at any university in Nigeria ( ANY UNIVERSITY IN NIGERIA) Since this law has not been changed or the decree amended, it is a gross offense and flagrant disobedience of the laws of our land to exclude Open University graduates from the NYSC. Here we can see that, nothing in this decree indicate that students from Open University are not qualified, it only informed us of the purpose of this scheme which is to build capacity of the Nigerian youths and imbibe the culture of national service, tolerance and accommodation in them. However, rather than admit graduates of Open University into the NYSC scheme to serve their fatherland, the National Youth Service Corps governing council without any basis, continue to exclude the first of its kind institution. They designate Open university as excluded, and the graduates are given what they call, exclusion certificate to indicate that they have been officially excluded from serving our nation. This is a grave injustice. Let me note that, this exclusion certificate was alien to the NYSC Act. What the act recognize is exemption certificate, but only some categories of people are qualified for the exemption. Exemption certificate is different from Exclusion certificate. According to amended NYSC act: Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this act, with effect from 1st August, 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if; at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification - • He is over the age of thirty. • He has served in the armed forces of the Federation or the Nigeria Police Force for a period of more than nine months. • He has been conferred with any National Honour. • He is member of staff of any of the following, that is: i. the Nigerian Security Organisation ii. the State Security Service iii. the National Intelligence Agency iv. the Defence Intelligence Service As we can see in the above, these are the only categories of people that are qualified for NYSC exemption certificate, nothing like exclusion certificate was ever mentioned in the NYSC act, but because the governing council of the NYSC are bent on denying our institution equal rights of participation for reasons best known to them, they introduced what they call exclusion, which they dumped on the faces of distinguish NOUN graduates. It is quite disappointing that, after 4 years of academic grinding, plus hard work in an institution with no equal, where you have obtained the best of knowledge under a properly guided system devoid of any form of examination Mal-practices, what you get is discrimination from some government establishments. It is important to note that, Open University is a federal university, accredited by the same National University Commission which accredited other institutions in the country. For no reason should her graduate be sidelined,as this would discourage prospective students from enrolling in the institution,thus defeating the purpose for which it was created.

We have seen all over the world that graduates of Open Universities are accorded front seat roll, they are seen as people who deserve first class treatment. Nigeria shouldn’t ignorantly relegate this noble institution and its distinguish graduates, they cannot be relegated. Many students from this university feel pained when they see other graduates in the youth corps uniform moving about their places of assignment. They wish that one day, it would be them in those uniforms, holding their head high in service to their fatherland, but this dream seems to be under threat, as graduates after graduates, the discrimination yet continues. I therefore call on those in authority to desist from this discrimination, failure of which the students would be forced to drag the NYSC to court for legal redress. Finally, we are aware that the president have the power to resolve this issues without further delay, as the NYSC act states that, the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces may, by Order published it, the Gazette, extend the application of the provisions of subsection (1) of this section to other categories of Nigerians who shall have obtained such diplomas, certificates or other qualifications as may "be prescribed in the Order from universities, colleges and other institutions of higher learning within or outside Nigeria, and the Order may specify different dates for call-up in relation to different categories of those affected or to be affected by the Order. Therefore, the president should as a matter of urgency, intervene to correct this unjustifiable exclusion of Open university graduates from National Youth Service.

Abdulrazaq O Hamzat Congress of Noun Students

. I, had that national open university lack the merit to participate in NYSC, because Nigerians are yet to understand the structure of the institution.

Bluetooth2:
Stop deceiving yourself. What's the difference between part-time and distance learning ?

NOUN also has full time programs and part of their fees has a jamb exemption fee for each student which is paid to nysc.

NYSC has lost its relevance. A lot has changed about it just like things have changed for bad for most of our respectable institutions of the 70s and 80s eg, the military and most of our academic institutions. They should scrap the NYSC and introduce something more beneficial. Imagine people influencing postings, bribing people so they don't have to appear and stress themselves up, etc etc.

Also, if the scheme must continue, they should tighten its procedures and restructure it. I don't understand how some useless universities manage to get their students called up.

AbuuUsaamah:
This is what happens when you think you are smarter than your counterparts who go through a lot studying in the four walls of a classroom.

Education is of the mind. It has nothing to do with the four walls. A lot of cultists have passed through the four walls and they have become plagues to the society. Conventional university or Open university, the student reserves the right to make the best of what either of the two has to offer. Nigeria and undue, un-necessary discrimination. SMH....

brownlord:
National Year of Sex and Comfort NYSC?...just ban that silly programme and stop sending graduates to Place of Promiscuous Activity PPA...

Maziomenuko the bad guy

@op, do you know what I went through at the University of Nigeria , Nsukka to bagged my degree, it can never be compared to what NOUN graduates passed through...
It's not about sitting in front of a laptop to receive course materials, its about being on the campus to face professors and doctor in your chosen discipline..

VIPERVENOM:
NOUN also has full time programs and part of their fees has a jamb exemption fee for each student which is paid to nysc.

Noun is a virtual educational system for adults. Take it or keep off. There are over 150 conventional universities in Nigeria, read well, pass your jamb and post ume, graduate and go for Nysc.

Simple as ABC !

Lol people wey no serve are angry ooo. Why wld u want NYSC stopped? U dey vex cos u be parttime abi cos u no go sch at all and the pictures dey vex u? I miss NYSC yrs abeg. Why person wey go sch once a wk serve wit person wey spend 8hrs in sch? No way abeg.

ikkkkk:
Point of correction please.
NOUN is not a part time degree program. It's a 100 percent full time program. The beauty of the school is that it runs through ODL (Open Distance Learning) and its highly sophisticated. The school runs it's normal academic programs and its not affected by ASUU strike.

word!
the only set of people speaking against NOUN are the ones. who are oblivious of it's activities. NOUN is the best around.

They are not serious, even all those mushroom universities and polytechnics students do go for service why not the NOUN students.

Bluetooth2:
Stop deceiving yourself. What's the difference between part-time and distance learning ?

U seem not to understand what ODL is all about. There are lots of differences bro and the two ain't in anyway related.

Just google ODL and u will see the differences yourself.

coolhamid:
@op, do you know what I went through at the University of Nigeria , Nsukka to bagged my degree, it can never be compared to what NOUN graduates passed through...
It's not about sitting in front of a laptop to receive course materials, its about being on the campus to face professors and doctor in your chosen discipline..

please include the blocking of lecturers that occurs in your school

metorichmond:
I am doing my master now @ open university sha. Hp coys won't tell me nonsense when out for jobs with big pay. Loool.

You have wasted a lot of time in that your dream,you better wake up and face reality. No offence meant.

JigsawKillah:
please include the blocking of lecturers that occurs in your school

. what do ye mean? I dont understand

Bluetooth2:
Noun is a virtual educational system for adults. Take it or keep off. There are over 150 conventional universities in Nigeria, read well, pass your jamb and post ume, graduate and go for Nysc.

Simple as ABC !

Been there. Done that. Thank u very much

This must not allow to happen, the NYSC Governing council should revise their decision

Noun is not a part time program but a distance learning for those who were not opportuned to attend the normal conventional university. Its believed that most of the students of noun are workers or above the age of 30 which make them not elligible for nysc. Also as a distance learning program many people have attained previous degrees before enroling in the school, though due to jamb frustration so many young people are enroling in the institution. They give exclusion certificate .

What are you saying, what about all those mushroom schools that do send dial students for service nko, you can still talk to your lecturer or professor, can you question already programmed computer

coolhamid:
@op, do you know what I went through at the University of Nigeria , Nsukka to bagged my degree, it can never be compared to what NOUN graduates passed through...
It's not about sitting in front of a laptop to receive course materials, its about being on the campus to face professors and doctor in your chosen discipline..

ikkkkk:
Point of correction please.
NOUN is not a part time degree program. It's a 100 percent full time program. The beauty of the school is that it runs through ODL (Open Distance Learning) and its highly sophisticated. The school runs it's normal academic programs and its not affected by ASUU strike.

U made me laff in spanish, how do u expect such a school to be affected by ASUU, that's a big degrading to ASUU if they can allow such a school join their association, a so called university that take lectures and write exams under a canopy. U must be a jokker.

Mind u, even abroad the school u finish from will determine how long u will stay at home before getting a job, u can't go to a college or a university with low quality of education and think u will be treated the same way people that went to quality schools are treated.

Another thing u dnt know now is that if u dnt have a jamb admission letter, even spend 7 years in school u r not serving so probably when ur school starts writing jamb they might be considered for NYSC.

@op
The last time I checked,national open university of Nigeria was established to cater for workers who have intentions of learning to acquire certificates through the institution's various part-time programs, so I wonder wat all this long old testament write up is all about cos part time graduates are not eligible to go for NYSC. Instead of una to read like una mates ,pass jamb and enter the various regular universities wey full everywhere(atleast one now per state),una wan use shortcut graduate,oya come serve now make we see.

clemz88:
were you an Nccf papa.

no sir......but the Uncle

I, had national open university lack the merit to participate in NYSC, because Nigerians are yet to understand the structure of the institution.