ShymmexOBE:


Bwahahahaha. I knew you were going to post this - and I was patiently waiting for it.

Yes, he was obnoxious in whatever he said cos he doesn't understand the need for every black person to always rally around Africa, and try as much as possible to help, so as to project a universal great image of black people. Once Africa finds its way into the league of nations and takes its rightful place - every black person on this planet will feel the impact. That's just me looking at it, from a deeper perspective due to my level of consciousness. Ditto he can expand his business empire into Africa and become stupendously richer than he's now, like Isaiah Washington is doing in Sierra Leone and a host of others across the continent.

You have no level of consciousness so lets just get that out of the way. Why didn't Ali say he will wait until Africa finds its way into the league of nations before he stepped foot there? You make no sense whatsoever, you are one of those self hating black zombies who worship materialism and prioritise the wrong things in life, you have no depth or self love. You are just another wanna be desperate to be identified with what you perceive as the in crowd. Mayweather is not intelligent or business savvy enough to even begin to think about business on an international level so your statement about him expanding his so called business empire is laughable. Mayweather is just like the vast majority of black people in the westrn world who have low self esteem, he is a consumer, he consumes in order to fill the deep hole of low self esteem and inferirority complex that many blacks in the west are afflicted by. He craves acceptance by whites but he will never be accepted by them. It has already been proven that he is not a good athlete therefore he will never be admired or respected by them, and the money he has made will not fill up that deep hole of insecurity.

However, really and truly bruddah, on the surface, did he tell a lie? What has Africa done for him? Where was Africa when mum and dad were in jail and he was living on the streets as a kid, and had to turn to the gym for succour? Has Africa ever reached out to black people in America to offer them help through all their trials and tribulation (on the flip-side AAs have done a lot for Africa - and I can list gazillion of influences)? How are those Africans who have stolen billions from Africa helping and why should he be the one to carry the burden with the money he worked hard for when there are thousands of stupendously rich Africans who benefited from the continent who have refused to help? How about Africa looking inwards and telling those corrupt thieves who stole from it, to help?

Only an illiterate with no knowledge of self can make the statement that Mayweather made. Mayweather grew up in the ghettos of Michigan but I can bet you he never had to live one day without running water and electricity. Many Africans live without the most basic necessities of life therefore when you look at it Mayweather, to some extent had it better than many Africans, he should therefore have more empathy but he doesn't because the truth of the matter is that Mayweather does not give a damn about anyone but himself, he doesn't even give a damn about the poor black people he left behind in those Michigan ghettoes.

I remember my boy (he was the third of my tripod of closest friends all through Uni), who's also of Nigerian descent, and was born here as well but from Brixton used to say the same thing when we were in Uni, during the period when we were all embracing Afrocentricism. He used to say fvck Nigeria - and what has Nigeria done for him? Where was Nigeria when he was drinking cereal with water and sugar, and robbing people at night as a kid at the cash point just to get money to help his parents with the heating? And why didn't Nigeria save his mother who went there for holiday after 20 years and ended up dying right there in the country? Once you look at it from his perspective, you'll get where he's coming cos Nigeria isn't a poor country by any stretch and there are tons of Nigerians who're stupendously rich - so they should be the ones helping Africa, not someone like him who has never benefited anything from the place. Heck, they killed his mum. So can you fault him for that?

The problems of Nigeria were not caused by the people of Nigeria, I m sure you know that, Nigeria is owned and run by the british govt and any attempt to overthrow the status quo will result in the british govt sending troops to fight on the side of the corrupt lackeys who run the country on their behalf .

However, have you ever tried to look at the bigger picture and mirror what he's doing here with his moves with Al Haymon? They're breaking barriers and creating ways for future generations. Yes, he isn't perfect - but the economics is greater than his imperfection. It's just like how Jay Z is trying to break the Jewish record companies' monopoly with Tidal - can you hate on that regardless of whatever imperfections he has? It's like trying to critique Che Guevara for what he said about black people, and not remembering the fact that he actually went to Zaire to fight side by side with Africans against the beast created by King Leopold. Black man, you still have a long way to go when it comes to understanding the dynamics of the world. It's not by being overly emotional and race-baiting, with the blame game (blaming the "white devil" at every opportunity) - while spouting the same evil by the white media to destroy other black people trying to create something.

You are so delusional its embarrassing. Which moves? Do you really think this semi literate flunky has any economic muscle in an industry owned and controlled by whites. You are a joke. He is just on a payroll like all the other black sports men and when his time is up he will end up broke just like the long list of black athletes who depend on their white handlers to make money.

Furthermore, aren't light skinned black women also black? Stop the colourism, black is black regardless of the shade and there's no crime in having a preference. The most important thing is that he dates and has kids with black women - period. Unlike other folks who opt for white women as soon as they get rich. Moreover, isn't Mike Tyson also guilty of the same crime? Why are you leaving him out of the critique? Hypocrite much? The funniest thing is that for everything you accused him of, Tyson has done worse. You accused him of domestic violence (despite the fact that there was never proofs of physical injuries and one of the women is back with him singing his praises everywhere) - but Tyson rap.ed a woman, was accused of sexual assault, and has been accused of domestic violence countless of times.

Im not going to go into this again with you but one thing ill tell you is that none of the women with him would touch him with a ten foot barge pole if he didn't have any money, one of his baby mamas has recently served him with a $20m child support claim, as stu.pid as he is even he knows that deep down inside none of those women give a damn about him.

You just hate this guy because that's what the white man wants you to do for not playing by the white man's rule. Hysterical coming from Mr. Almighty Pro-black militant. So you can actually be a tool for the white man, black man? Hmmm...shyte happens and it happens all the time to negroes.

This is where you totally miss the point - Mayweather is totally playing the white man's game, he makes money for them, he hates his own people, he spends his money in white owned shops and he worships at the alter of materialism - these are all the things white people want him to do and these are all the things people like you aspire to.

cap28:

You have no level of consciousness so lets just get that out of the way. Why didn't Ali say he will wait until Africa finds its way into the league of nations before he stepped foot there? You make no sense whatsoever, you are one of those self hating black zombies who worship materialism and prioritise the wrong things in life, you have no depth or self love. You are just another wanna be desperate to be identified with what you perceive as the in crowd. Mayweather is not intelligent or business savvy enough to even begin to think about business on an international level so your statement about him expanding his so called business empire is laughable. Mayweather is just like the vast majority of black people in the westrn world who have low self esteem, he is a consumer, he consumes in order to fill the deep hole of low self esteem and inferirority complex that many blacks in the west are afflicted by. He craves acceptance by whites but he will never be accepted by them. It has already been proven that he is not a good athlete therefore he will never be admired or respected by them, and the money he has made will not fill up that deep hole of insecurity.

Only an illiterate with no knowledge of self can make the statement that Mayweather made. Mayweather grew up in the ghettos of Michigan but I can bet you he never had to live one day without running water and electricity. Many Africans live without the most basic necessities of life therefore when you look at it Mayweather, to some extent had it better than many Africans, he should therefore have more empathy but he doesn't because the truth of the matter is that Mayweather does not give a damn about anyone but himself, he doesn't even give a damn about the poor black people he left behind in those Michigan ghettoes.

The problems of Nigeria were not caused by the people of Nigeria, I m sure you know that, Nigeria is owned and run by the british govt and any attempt to overthrow the status quo will result in the british govt sending troops to fight on the side of the corrupt lackeys who run the country on their behalf .

You are so delusional its embarrassing. Which moves? Do you really think this semi literate flunky has any economic muscle in an industry owned and controlled by whites. You are a joke. He is just on a payroll like all the other black sports men and when his time is up he will end up broke just like the long list of black athletes who depend on their white handlers to make money.

Im not going to go into this again with you but one thing ill tell you is that none of the women with him would touch him with a ten foot barge pole if he didn't have any money, one of his baby mamas has recently served him with a $20m child support claim, as stu.pid as he is even he knows that deep down inside none of those women give a damn about him.

This is where you totally miss the point - Mayweather is totally playing the white man's game, he makes money for them, he hates his own people, he spends his money in white owned shops and he worships at the alter of materialism - these are all the things white people want him to do and these are all the things people like you aspire to.

Brev, I'll keep destroying your arguments cos you can never compare your level of consciousness/enlightenment and understanding of things to mine. I look at everything beyond the (sur)face level, and that comes with supreme cognitive approach/reasoning to everything I do, and learning from the greats. I wasn't raised by YouTube and all these vacuous Pro-black plonkers all over cyberspace - I was educated by grandmaster teachers. And you need to start learning from the knowledge I'm kicking. Black consciousness isn't about moaning and whinging everywhere like you always (yes, you can point out the wickedness/hypocrisy of the white man from time to time, but never dwell on it) - it's about solving the unique black problems, with black minds. And Malcolm X taught us to empower ourselves and he also told us that the future belongs to those who prepare for it today. You're acting more like a coon-brother than a conscious brother, and people like you are the reason why Africa is so backward. You have no understanding anything whatsoever and you're not a problem solver. Majority of folks who populate this forum are just like you - modern-day slaves.

Now let me get to the nitty-gritty of your retorts:

1). I honestly don't want to say anything negative about Muhammad Ali, but after the Rumble in the Jungle against Foreman, when he returned to America and was asked about his experience on the continent, didn't he say, “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat.” How's that different (if not worse) than Mayweather saying Africa never did anything for him?

Oh, he craves acceptance by whites, yet he doesn't play by their rules and his whole team is black, with a few Latinos, and he cut them off from all his earnings, no? While your Tyson was surrounded by white folks throughout his career and worked like a slave to make them richer, yes? Hell yeah, a consumer who turn hate into the big boxing empire ever with Al Haymon, and they just started - in 10 years' time - the duo should dominate everything in the sport.

Truth be told, you say a lot of things without understanding what you talk about - and I'm here to help you and cure your ignorance as a black man.

2). Listen, hardship and growing poor in any part of the world is relative. In as much as he wouldn't be able to relate to poverty in Africa, those in Africa wouldn't be able to relate to being raised in the slums of Grand Rapids, Michigan - infested by drugs and gang violence, with both parents hooked on drugs and were jail birds. They wouldn't know what it means to dodge bullets every night from gang members, while losing families and loved ones all the time to gang violence. And that was the crack era. He owes Africa nothing, and you can't make him responsible for the unique problems of Africa.

Erm, let me correlate my life to paint a better picture for you (And the UK is very peaceful compared to where he was raised). From age 15-19 at the height of gun violence in London, I lost four of my friends to dem gully roads and three of my distant cousins are still prison right now (they have been there now for almost a decade now). Can a teenager in Africa relate to that? Now use that to compare a place like Grand Rapids, Michigan, that's 10 times more violent - especially during the peak of the crack/heroin era.

3). Oh, here we go again - blame the "white devil" for everything wrong with Nigeria - but absorb the pilfering thieves who have robbed the country blind, of any blame whatsoever - while trying to critique a black man from America who worked hard for his money for saying he doesn't owe Africa anything. You're a gift that keeps on giving, and your mentality is messed. Are you ever going to given up on ya obtuse tripe, and start apportioning blames to the right places? You're the type of coon-brother that can't stand a successful black man, doing his thing his own way. You're a lost cause!

4). Based on the illogical nonsense you keep spouting all over the thread - you wouldn't understand what basic economics is. The only language you understand is the blame game. You don't understand what ownership and making power moves, by rendering supreme profit-oriented services under ya own company - while getting paid in return, without the need to pay a middle-man entails. You wouldn't know what profiting directly from ya own sweat and maximising ya profits entail. So there's absolutely no need to trifle a trifle here cos you wouldn't get it.

5). At the end of the day, they touched him and had kids for him. Why are you so pained? And isn't Tyson far more fugly and re.tarded with lisp and speech impediment? Why aren't you hard on him? You think Robin Givens would have touched Tyson if he never had money - hysterical. I guess that was why she was fvcking Brad Pitt when they were together. Another senseless and obtuse retort from you - you sound so pained and bitter.

6). And how does he make money for them? Expatiate on that, Mr. Faux-Black-Power Militant.

I'll keep Schooling you like I school all those Kufi wearing wingnuts and id.iotic pro-black plonkers who're more or less a tumor to the black race than a blessing.

ShymmexOBE:


What theories are you alluding to? I posted links to everything I said, yet you're still grasping at straws - just say you have to argument, end of. Utter ridiculous and innuendo rebuttals won't cut it with me.

You sound pained. Baby fighter who has beaten everyone put in-front of him and remained undefeated. Brev, stick to brawling - you're just showing yourself out the more you post.

The sweet science is about BOXING not BRAWLING!

It's obvious you never paid attention to the fight cos you were looking for a brawling contest. If you did, you would have see what happened in the 4th and 6th round. Pacman the roid biiitch threw flurries and won both rounds convincing yet the biitch claimed a fake injury after the fight.

I can't keep regurgitating the same thing over and over again. Read all my previous post to Cap28 and all the links I provided about how Tyson NEVER had $20 million in his account. Ditto all the videos I posted.

You lost when you failed to even include Tyson even in ya top-5 heavyweight fighters ever. You're basically just arguing for the sake of it. It's boring now.

Why not tell him to move up to the heavyweight division to face Wladimir Klitschko since you want him to move up two divisions to face a natural middleweight? Do you even know how old he's and that he's a natural welterweight? You lot just talk for the sake of it - I bet you don't even know how the divisions work in boxing. Tired of back and forth with casual fans who know nothing about the sweet science.

Tell Golovkin the hype job to stop running from Andre Ward and get in the ring with him, so ward can school him like he did those before him. At least they're both just one division apart, and both are still relatively young.

Lol your links mean nothing, they have no relevance in this context. You're the only one connecting some imaginary dots here and trying to pass it as valid reason.

I don't need any link to tell me what I witnessed or what is generally known. Tyson made shi*t load of money in his career, even as far back as the late 80s when he divorced his first wife, she walked away with more than $10 million. Any link stating contrary is nothing but bullsh*it, not even worth the click.

Except you can show me where it's explicitly said that Tyson walked home with much less money than reported, then there's no point here.

Tyson said everything in his undisputed show, go and watch it. He'd no reason to lie there.

From what you've said do far, even almost going as far as saying Floyd Mayweather Junior is greater the great Muhammad Ali... It's already obvious you're not a boxing fan at all, just a Mayweather fan. Which is cool, after all the money team bandwagon is full of loyal supporters (including 50 cent who jumped back on the bandwagon after saying all the shi*t he said about Floyd... Talk about a man behaving like a groupie)

Why can't Floyd go up to middleweight? That's very feasible than going up to heavyweight where Wladimir Klitschko fights. Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield, James Toney, David Haye did similar thing, even Pacquiao his nemesis moved up from 107lb to 147lb... Mayweather is almost at middle weight, he doesn't even need to add up to 30lbs to fight Golovkin, that should be easy peasy for him.. At least if he wants to silence the naysayers forever.

Golovkin will fight Ward, and he would just be another knockout to his record.

Forget what the Mayweather fans boys might say to hype their man, the boxing world knows mayweather will forever be remembered as a hype who not only ducked fighters in their prime but also ducked them in the ring by running around like a bitc*h!! The bitc*h doesn't even like boxing, he's given up his belts so he won't be forced to face mandatory challengers.

Like tyson said " Floyd Mayweather is delusional, he's just a weak, little scared man" Hahahahahahahahaha tyson gave him a verbal KO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA24sDTpMuA

As a big fan of the pugilist trade, I have zero respect for any fighter who steps into the ring without the intention to impose his will, punish and knockout the other man. It's very disrespectful of the sport.

As a man, he has no class, I really don't get why most black folks are blindly rooting for him, he's not even done anything for black people, nothing!! Apart from floss his wealth, make blasphemous statements and be a cash cow for bitc*hes.

Don't worry, your boy Mayweather would retire soon and all of you his fans would retire with him.

50calibre:

Lol your links mean nothing, they have no relevance in this context. You're the only one connecting some imaginary dots here and trying to pass it as valid reason.

I don't need any link to tell me what I witnessed or what is generally known. Tyson made shi*t load of money in his career, even as far back as the late 80s when he divorced his first wife, she walking away with more than $10 million. Any link stating contrary is nothing but bullsh*it, not even worth the click.

Except you can show me where it's explicitly said that Tyson walked home with much less money than reported, then there's no point here.

Tyson said everything in his undisputed show, go and watch it. He'd no reason to lie there.

From what you've said do far, even almost going as far as saying Floyd Mayweather Junior is greater the great Muhammad Ali... It's already obvious you're not a boxing fan at all, just a Mayweather fan. Which is cool, after all the money team bandwagon is full of loyal supporters (including 50 cent who jumped back on the bandwagon after saying all the shi*t he said about Floyd... Talk about a man behaving like a groupie)

Why can't Floyd go up to middleweight? That's very feasible than going up to heavyweight where Wladimir Klitschko fights. Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield, James Toney, David Haye did similar thing, even Pacquiao his nemesis moved up from 107lb to 147lb... Mayweather is almost at middle weight, he doesn't even need to add up to 30lbs to fight Golovkin, that should be easy peasy for him.. At least if he wants to silence the naysayers forever.

Golovkin will fight Ward, and he would just be another knockout to his record.

Forget what the Mayweather fans boys might say to hype their man, the boxing world knows mayweather will forever be remembered as a hype who not only ducked fighters in their prime but also ducked them in the ring by running around like a bitc*h!! The bitc*h doesn't even like boxing, he's given up his belts so he won't be forced to face mandatory challengers.

Like tyson said " Floyd Mayweather is delusional, he's just a weak, little scared man" Hahahahahahahahaha tyson gave him a verbal KO

As a big fan of the pugilist trade, I zero respect for any man who steps into the ring without the intention to impose his will, punish and knockout the other man. It's very disrespectful of the sport.

As a man, he has no class, I really don't get why most black folks are blindly rooting for him, he's not even done anything for black people, nothing!! Apart from floss his wealth, make blasphemous statements and be a cash cow for bitc*hes.

Don't worry, your boy Mayweather would retire soon and all of you his fans would retire with him.

Lol, you're starting to look like a gift that keeps on giving with ya retorts. What are you on about with context? I know reading/comprehension isn't the forte of the overwhelming majority of folks who populate this forum, however, I don't expect you to be part of the gang cos I rate you higher than the rest. Go back and read my post again, and this time read carefully/slowly.

Err, let me break it down for you again in simple terms, and I hope you'll be able understand clearly:

- I said Holyfield is broke and bitter - and his washed up bitter ar.se just lost a charity boxing crap match to Mitt Romney. And isn't he well documented that Holyfield is broke? Didn't he look like a class clown and an idi.otic spook doing stupid charity boxing match with Mitt Romney? So what dots and context are you alluding to?

- I said Oscar De La Hoya is a crackhead and he's just bitter that Al Haymon has taken his boxers. And isn't Oscar De La Hoya a crackhead? You mean a guy who has been to rehab more than once in the last 4 years isn't a crackhead, no? Another link for you: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9658985/oscar-de-la-hoya-says-going-rehab-again

Also, didn't Golden Boy Promotions (Oscar De La Hoya's company) sue Al Haymon for taking his boxers? Link here: http://www.cityam.com/215220/floyd-mayweathers-manager-al-haymon-sued-300m-oscar-de-la-hoyas-golden-boy-promotions So what dots and context are you alluding to?

- I said Tyson and Mayweather don't get along cos of sexual assault case from way back. Did I tell a lie? And didn't Mike Tyson via his assistant affirm the story in the link I posted? So what dots and context are you alluding to?

Basically, you expect me to take the opinions of these bitter and washed clowns who have a problem with Mayweather seriously, and not the opinions of objective folks like: Lennox Lewis, Teddy Atlas, Roy Jones, Benard Hopkins, Amir Khan, Andre Berto, Andre Ward, Paulie Malignaggi etc.. Heck, even Carl Froch who was at the ringside as the co-host for ShowtimeUK marvelled at Mayweather's genius and he couldn't stop praising him. Brev, I'm bored of this back and forth, to be honest.
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Stop exposing your limited knowledge of boxing. Mayweather walks around (even when not boxing) at 150lbs max (he's a natural welterweight) but you expect him move up at least two divisions up to go take on a Golovkin (a natural middleweight) who walks around at over 170lbs, no? How ridiculous can you casual boxing fans get with ya unnecessary hate? Why not tell him to move up to heavyweight to fight Wladimir Klitschko? That was the same way you lot were making noise about Pacroid and his roid rage till Mayweather schooled him, and the midget filipino had to create some phantom injury after those Mayweather's straight rights and vicious left hooks/jabs kept him at bay. What theory are you going to come up with next? - he ducked a middleweight fighter as a welterweight, no? - bwahahahahahaha

Err, why not tell Golovkin to stop running like a biiitch and go fight Andre Ward and Lara? Or since you want a 39-year old Mayweather to move up to middleweight to him - how about tell Golovkin to also move up two division to take on Adonis Stevenson or Sergey Kovalev? I'd even put my money on Saul Alvarez to knock the Golovkin hype job out in 7 rounds cos Saul walks around at 160lbs now.

Anyway, who has Golovkin even fought apart from tomato cans and bums? Name one decent fighter he has fought? The media created a hype job about a brawler with punching power, but no jab and footwork, yet all the casual fans keep spamming everywhere with noise about some useless Golovkin. WHo has he fought apart from tomato cans? Why can't he take on folks on the level they claim he's before crowning him? I'd even wager that Mayweather would school him if it makes business sense, but even with after schooling him - you lot are going to come back and ask Mayweather to move to the heavyweight division as a welterweight to face Wladimir Klitschko. That's how irritating/annoying/nauseating you casual fans can get sometimes.

Hopefully, when Golovkin the hype gets smacked by Andre Ward or Saul Alvarez; bum ar.se Wladimir Klitschko retires; and midget Filipino Pacroid wakes up from a combo Mayweather and Marquez's straight rights - you'll leave boxing the sweet science with them, and move to the MMA/UFC where animals in human skin fight in cages like brutish savages.

With Andre Ward, Dirrell brothers, Terence Crawford, the new cautious Saul Alvarez, Lomachenko, Anthony Oluwafemi Joshua, Errol Spence, Keith Thurman, Charlo brothers, Adrien Broner (if he can stop being a clown), Nicholas Walters, and Rigondeaux - we boxing purists have a lot to look forward to. The future is bright!

Life is good

Cap28 and 50calibre

In the spirit of celebrating the legend of Ice Cube the black god and the 25th anniversary of his classic "AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted" album. Ice Cube was that nyggah and with the consciousness and beats of Bomb Squad productions - he was untouchable back then.

Make sure you play this album for ya unborn kids and teach ya kids how to be black in this white man's world.

I'm dedicating this tune off that album to the both of you! West West Y'all!

Ice Cube - The Nigga Ya Love To Hate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPV3PObjHGg

ShymmexOBE:


Brev, I'll keep destroying your arguments cos you can never compare your level of consciousness/enlightenment and understanding of things to mine. I look at everything beyond the (sur)face level, and that comes with supreme cognitive approach/reasoning to everything I do, and learning from the greats. I wasn't raised by YouTube and all these vacuous Pro-black plonkers all over cyberspace - I was educated by grandmaster teachers. And you need to start learning from the knowledge I'm kicking. Black consciousness isn't about moaning and whinging everywhere like you always (yes, you can point out the wickedness/hypocrisy of the white man from time to time, but never dwell on it) - it's about solving the unique black problems, with black minds. And Malcolm X taught us to empower ourselves and he also told us that the future belongs to those who prepare for it today. You're acting more like a coon-brother than a conscious brother, and people like you are the reason why Africa is so backward. You have no understanding anything whatsoever and you're not a problem solver. Majority of folks who populate this forum are just like you - modern-day slaves.

Quoting texts that you don't understand and parroting pro black slogans is where your "consciousness" begins and ends, you are a text book example of a simp, a zombiefied simp who has been conditioned to hate yourself. I am not really surprised to be honest because right from birth you have been told that you are inferior by the system that you grew up in. Think about it, from age 0 to 18 you were a victim of the british educational system which conditions blacks to be ashamed of their heritage, it would be a miracle if you went through this system and came out unscathed. Sadly you will remain a basket case until your mind is deprogrammed and your soul is cleansed of all the self hate that you are soaked in.

I was gonna ignore you but that trash that you attributed to Ali got me irritated and I decided to to let you have it one final time just incase some impressionable young people might stumble on your post and believe your lies, so for the sake of posterity let me remind you of just how great Ali was.

First of all Ali wasn't just a boxer he was a statesman, something you and peabrained Mayweather will never be able to grasp.

Ali was a man who stood up for what he believed in, he refused to go and die in Vietnam for white supremacy. Can you imagine coward Mayweather having the balls to thumb his nose at his paymasters? Mayweather would think about all the Maybachs he would lose out on, all the strip clubs he wouldn't be able to spend money in, no way jose Mayweather would never dream of taking a stand on anything especially if it involved losing money.
Ali joined the Nation of Islam at the height of his career and openly associated with Malcolm X and Elijah Mohammed knowing full well it would attract a backlash from white America and harm his career could Mayweather in a million years do this?

Ali openly criticised the Vietnam war stating famously that no Vietcong ever called him nigger. He went to Africa in the 1970s to fight Foreman and whilst there unlike Foreman he mingled with the people of Zaire and they fell in love with him. He jogged through the streets attracting crowds of admirers and fans and took pictures with the women and children. He embraced Africa and Africa responded with love, that is a true leader, a great man, a towering icon and a hero. Ali is the kind of man you and Mayweather will never be in a million life times so don't you ever open your mouth again to vomit trash about a man whose feet you are not fit to kiss.
Stay in your lane and on your level, Mayweather is on your level, Ali is the man you and Mayweather can never and will never be, a proud black man who stood up to be counted, a man who hung out with ordinary people not strippers and prost.itutes. A man who spoke with infinite wisdom and knowledge not stark illiterate Mayweather whose low self esteem and inferiority complex prevents him from understanding about what is important in life.
A word is enough for the wise!

ShymmexOBE:
Cap28 and 50calibre

In the spirit of celebrating the legend of Ice Cube the black god and the 25th anniversary of his classic "AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted" album. Ice Cube was that nyggah and with the consciousness and beats of Bomb Squad productions - he was untouchable back then.

Make sure you play this album for ya unborn kids and teach ya kids how to be black in this white man's world.

I'm dedicating this tune off that album to the both of you! West West Y'all!

Ice Cube - The Nigga Ya Love To Hate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPV3PObjHGg

These are the people you emulate! - Ice cube sold out as soon as he got rich just like the rest of those pathetic rappers. Get your mouth off their nuts nigga!

Fearless, charismatic, intelligent, courageous, the great Muhammed Ali:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4dKIS4wSs

Shymmexx watch and learn, you and Mayweather are not fit to kiss this man's feet

The great Muhammed Ali training in Zaire:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Jom8Ok_DA

cap28:


Quoting texts that you don't understand and parroting pro black slogans is where your "consciousness" begins and ends, you are a text book example of a simp, a zombiefied simp who has been conditioned to hate yourself. I am not really surprised to be honest because right from birth you have been told that you are inferior by the system that you grew up in. Think about it, from age 0 to 18 you were a victim of the british educational system which conditions blacks to be ashamed of their heritage, it would be a miracle if you went through this system and came out unscathed. Sadly you will remain a basket case until your mind is deprogrammed and your soul is cleansed of all the self hate that you are soaked in.

I was gonna ignore you but that trash that you attributed to Ali got me irritated and I decided to to let you have it one final time just incase some impressionable young people might stumble on your post and believe your lies, so for the sake of posterity let me remind you of just how great Ali was.

First of all Ali wasn't just a boxer he was a statesman, something you and peabrained Mayweather will never be able to grasp.

Ali was a man who stood up for what he believed in, he refused to go and die in Vietnam for white supremacy. Can you imagine coward Mayweather having the balls to thumb his nose at his paymasters? Mayweather would think about all the Maybachs he would lose out on, all the strip clubs he wouldn't be able to spend money in, no way jose Mayweather would never dream of taking a stand on anything especially if it involved losing money.
Ali joined the Nation of Islam at the height of his career and openly associated with Malcolm X and Elijah Mohammed knowing full well it would attract a backlash from white America and harm his career could Mayweather in a million years do this?

Ali openly criticised the Vietnam war stating famously that no Vietcong ever called him nigger. He went to Africa in the 1970s to fight Foreman and whilst there unlike Foreman he mingled with the people of Zaire and they fell in love with him. He jogged through the streets attracting crowds of admirers and fans and took pictures with the women and children. He embraced Africa and Africa responded with love, that is a true leader, a great man, a towering icon and a hero. Ali is the kind of man you and Mayweather will never be in a million life times so don't you ever open your mouth again to vomit trash about a man whose feet you are not fit to kiss.
Stay in your lane and on your level, Mayweather is on your level, Ali is the man you and Mayweather can never and will never be, a proud black man who stood up to be counted, a man who hung out with ordinary people not strippers and prost.itutes. A man who spoke with infinite wisdom and knowledge not stark illiterate Mayweather whose low self esteem and inferiority complex prevents him from understanding about what is important in life.
A word is enough for the wise!

Lmao...you personified the definition of a stupefied coon-brother and a modern-day slave. All you ever do is moan about "white devil" with utter useless conspiracy theories and idi.otic YouTube videos, without proffering solutions to the unique/fundamental problems of people of African descent. You don't understand what black consciousness is all about. You don't understand black history. You don't understand the mistakes black leaders from one generation to the other made, and the need for this generation to correct those mistakes. However, when it comes to parroting the blame game and moaning like a coon that has gone barmy after overdosing on wacky-backy, you always find your voice. Do you even know how you sound most times? - you sound like those psychotic Black Hebrew Israelites who run around disturbing the peace of everyone with their useless theories. Malachi York will be extremely proud of you, brother. Regardless, you're still my brother and I still have the utmost love/respect for you - but you have to follow my lead for a new beginning.

Listen, my mind was deprogrammed time ago (thanks to Malcolm X, Steven Biko, and all the grandmaster teachers) and I've embraced my blackness. Hence I'm the original black man.

Lmao @ you trying to bait me into talking about the sins of Muhammad Ali. Someone I vowed never to say anything negative about. It won't work, brother. But go read about how he fell out with Malcolm x and his regrets.

Anyway, stick to Tyson and leave the great Muhammad Ali out of it.

The great Muhammed Ali:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F30t-weDqko

ShymmexOBE:


All you ever do is moan about "white devil" with utter useless conspiracy theories and idi.otic YouTube videos, without proffering solutions to the unique/fundamental problems of people of African descent. You don't understand what black consciousness is all about. You don't understand black history. You don't understand the mistakes black leaders from one generation to the other made, and the need for this generation to correct those mistakes. However, when it comes to parroting the blame game and moaning like a coon that has gone barmy after overdosing on wacky-backy, you always find your voice. Do you even know how you sound most times? - you sound like those psychotic Black Hebrew Israelites who run around disturbing the peace of everyone with their useless theories. Malachi York will be extremely proud of you, brother.

This one of the major issues bedeviling so called black conscious folks... We play victim too much and are always pointing our hands at the almighty white man. We try to follow past leaders template without actually analysing them to see why they failed. It gets old yo

On a side note I don't think malachi york would be proud of the victim shouts. I am well acquainted with his teachings and know folks who follow it here. The last thing they do is cry victimization and they do practice black economics and are doing good for themselves.

Black conscious groups be hooked on conspiracy theories though... Nuwaupians included lol.

cap28:

These are the people you emulate! - Ice cube sold out as soon as he got rich just like the rest of those pathetic rappers. Get your mouth off their nuts nigga!

Lol, the more you post the more you show yourself out as a perpetual coon-brother. You have been hanging on Mike Tyson's nuts for three days straight now. The same Tyson who represents everything wrong with black people, apart from being a great boxer. The same Tyson who has been ra.ped all his life by white people and a spook who loves bowing down to white people for crumbs to eat.

However, you hate every black person who understands economics and is a goal-getter. Do I need to remind you that O'Shea Jackson the legendary Ice Cube left NWA because he was being rap.ed by the Jews, and moved to New York to join forces with Bomb-Squad/Public-Enemy under the tutelage of the great Chuck D? The same Ice Cube who combined gangster rap with political/black consciousness while dissing white power and the establishment sold out, no?

The same Ice Cube who started Lench Mob Records and signed Mack 10 and WC (to put food on other back people's table), doing it independently is a sell out? The same Ice Cube who has made tons of independent movies without bowing down to the white establishment is a sellout, yes?

You're a spook and the only type of black people you like are slaves and silly ones who don't know anything about black economics and making money, while keeping it in their communities.

ShymmexOBE:


Lol, you're starting to look like a gift that keeps on giving with ya retorts. What are you on about with context? I know reading/comprehension isn't the forte of the overwhelming majority of folks who populate this forum, however, I don't expect you to be part of the gang cos I rate you higher than the rest. Go back and read my post again, and this time read carefully/slowly.

Err, let me break it down for you again in simple terms, and I hope you'll be able understand clearly:

- I said Holyfield is broke and bitter - and his washed up bitter ar.se just lost a charity boxing crap match to Mitt Romney. And isn't he well documented that Holyfield is broke? Didn't he look like a class clown and an idi.otic spook doing stupid charity boxing match with Mitt Romney? So what dots and context are you alluding to?

- I said Oscar De La Hoya is a crackhead and he's just bitter that Al Haymon has taken his boxers. And isn't Oscar De La Hoya a crackhead? You mean a guy who has been to rehab more than once in the last 4 years isn't a crackhead, no? Another link for you: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9658985/oscar-de-la-hoya-says-going-rehab-again

Also, didn't Golden Boy Promotions (Oscar De La Hoya's company) sue Al Haymon for taking his boxers? Link here: http://www.cityam.com/215220/floyd-mayweathers-manager-al-haymon-sued-300m-oscar-de-la-hoyas-golden-boy-promotions So what dots and context are you alluding to?

- I said Tyson and Mayweather don't get along cos of sexual assault case from way back. Did I tell a lie? And didn't Mike Tyson via his assistant affirm the story in the link I posted? So what dots and context are you alluding to?

Basically, you expect me to take the opinions of these bitter and washed clowns who have a problem with Mayweather seriously, and not the opinions of objective folks like: Lennox Lewis, Teddy Atlas, Roy Jones, Benard Hopkins, Amir Khan, Andre Berto, Andre Ward, Paulie Malignaggi etc.. Heck, even Carl Froch who was at the ringside as the co-host for ShowtimeUK marvelled at Mayweather's genius and he couldn't stop praising him. Brev, I'm bored of this back and forth, to be honest.
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Stop exposing your limited knowledge of boxing. Mayweather walks around (even when not boxing) at 150lbs max (he's a natural welterweight) but you expect him move up at least two divisions up to go take on a Golovkin (a natural middleweight) who walks around at over 170lbs, no? How ridiculous can you casual boxing fans get with ya unnecessary hate? Why not tell him to move up to heavyweight to fight Wladimir Klitschko? That was the same way you lot were making noise about Pacroid and his roid rage till Mayweather schooled him, and the midget filipino had to create some phantom injury after those Mayweather's straight rights and vicious left hooks/jabs kept him at bay. What theory are you going to come up with next? - he ducked a middleweight fighter as a welterweight, no? - bwahahahahahaha

Err, why not tell Golovkin to stop running like a biiitch and go fight Andre Ward and Lara? Or since you want a 39-year old Mayweather to move up to middleweight to him - how about tell Golovkin to also move up two division to take on Adonis Stevenson or Sergey Kovalev? I'd even put my money on Saul Alvarez to knock the Golovkin hype job out in 7 rounds cos Saul walks around at 160lbs now.

Anyway, who has Golovkin even fought apart from tomato cans and bums? Name one decent fighter he has fought? The media created a hype job about a brawler with punching power, but no jab and footwork, yet all the casual fans keep spamming everywhere with noise about some useless Golovkin. WHo has he fought apart from tomato cans? Why can't he take on folks on the level they claim he's before crowning him? I'd even wager that Mayweather would school him if it makes business sense, but even with after schooling him - you lot are going to come back and ask Mayweather to move to the heavyweight division as a welterweight to face Wladimir Klitschko. That's how irritating/annoying/nauseating you casual fans can get sometimes.

Hopefully, when Golovkin the hype gets smacked by Andre Ward or Saul Alvarez; bum ar.se Wladimir Klitschko retires; and midget Filipino Pacroid wakes up from a combo Mayweather and Marquez's straight rights - you'll leave boxing the sweet science with them, and move to the MMA/UFC where animals in human skin fight in cages like brutish savages.

With Andre Ward, Dirrell brothers, Terence Crawford, the new cautious Saul Alvarez, Lomachenko, Anthony Oluwafemi Joshua, Errol Spence, Keith Thurman, Charlo brothers, Adrien Broner (if he can stop being a clown), Nicholas Walters, and Rigondeaux - we boxing purists have a lot to look forward to. The future is bright!

Damn!! You don't give up do you?

Are you seriously trying to tell you don't understand what I'm trying to say?

Holyfield is broke, yes!! De la Hoya was a drug addict, yes!! Tyson is bankrupt, yes!! Holyfield fought Romney for charity, yes!! What relevance are all of these in this context, (context meaning "discourse" ) what has it got to do with their expert opinion? Its really that simple.

Why the hell should Holyfield be bitter with floyd, bitter about what anyway? De la Hoya isn't broke so you grab at his drug addiction... Why are you linking up different unrelated subjects? Or is it just a desperate attempt to discredit their professional opinion?

FYI Holyfield couldn't care less about Floyd, he was invited on ESPN to give a prediction before the fight and he gave an objective analysis but failed to give a prediction.

Tyson don't get along with Floyd, yet they've hung out together, even featured together in commercials. Loolz. Tyson said (in his book by the way) that Floyd set him up in 99 .. Ok!! but it's funny how you chose to accept that part of his story which suits your argument, yet refuse to accept other part of his story. Lol

The opinions of all those guys you mentioned, objective or subjective as they may be, they do count... after all they've all laced boxing gloves and fought professionally. Even the great Muhammad Ali tipped Pacquiao to win, so what?

Your boxing argument proves you're not even a boxing fan, no disrespect but you know much less about boxing than I thought you did. You should have known fighters move up and down the weight classes (I even gave you examples) and no mayweather isn't a natural 150lb, he's moved up four or five weight classes so moving up isn't a problem for him. Canelo Alvarez came down to fight him, Golovkin I'm sure would be willing to come down to fight him if that's what it takes. Golovkin would pulverise floyd to dust

Mayweather is no stranger to moving weights, he's moved weights several times, he moved weights to fight De la Hoya, Marquez, cotto... these are little things I'd expect a staunch mayweather fan to know.

I watched Carl Froch's analysis on fight night and he was obviously star struck by mayweather even more so after mayweather recognised him. The guy was given the opportunity to co-interview floyd and he made a right mug of himself. He was given a ring side seat (something that's naturally out of his league) so what do you expect from a guy who's never had any major fight outside his backyard, who's biggest fight was Wembley stadium?

We've obviously reached an impasse, neither of us would agree and you're also not making it a worth while argument by constantly evading the truth (truth i'd expect someone like you to know) and making some utterly ridiculous arguments. So I will leave it at that, maybe we can pick it up some other time when there will be real boxing fans in the house so we could see who's truly the "casual fan"

When I watch boxing, I wanna see skill and intelligence but most importantly I wanna see blood, cut, punishment. I wanna see the cuts man in each corner going to wok at the end of each round. You want to see a man running around, baby punching and hugging another man fair enough!!

ShymmexOBE:


Lol, the more you post the more you show yourself out as a perpetual coon-brother. You have been hanging on Mike Tyson's nuts for three days straight now. The same Tyson who represents everything wrong with black people, apart from being a great boxer. The same Tyson who has been ra.ped all his life by white people and a spook who loves bowing down to white people for crumbs to eat.

Without Cus DAmato Tyson was destined for one of two places- the mortuary or Attica Federal Prison , Cus saved Tyson's life, NOW GET THIS INTO YOUR THICK SKULL - not all white people are evil. Tyson's life started going downhill when all the white people who MADE HIM either died or were removed from his life , GET THAT INTO YOUR FCKNG CRANIUM SIMP BOY.
Tyson was failed by his mother and father (black people) and was SAVED by whites who made him RICH. I know it hurts you to know that Tyson had the kind of money you will never see in a thousand millennia - $400 million baby, but it is what it is, deal with it , $400m to his name at the tender age of 29 .

However, you hate every black person who understands economics and is a goal-getter. Do I need to remind you that O'Shea Jackson the legendary Ice Cube left NWA because he was being rap.ed by the Jews, and moved to New York to join forces with Bomb-Squad/Public-Enemy under the tutelage of the great Chuck D? The same Ice Cube who combined gangster rap with political/black consciousness while dissing white power and the establishment sold out, no?

You are such a simp, every single successful rapper that is out there today is only successful becaue the power structure ALLOWED them to be successful, if you don't sell out you can never be rich, keep deceiving yourself into thinking that the likes of ice cube could ever dream of being successful without selling out. Ask yourself why Ice cube no longer sings about bringing down the system you think he would have an acting career and all that money in the bank if he were seeking to bring down the very system that has made him rich.
You are one of the most naïve people I have ever come across in my life, every single "successful" black entertainer in the US is only successful becaue the power structure ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN, even Chuck D that you mention mellowed and stopped with the militant lyrics because he knew that if he didn't he would end up poor, I would advise you to watch Akala's videos that is one intelligent brother, he will give you a much needed education on how the hip hop industry is controlled by corporate America.

The white man is ten steps ahead of you and knows that simps like you are easy to fool and bamboozle. Jay Z, Kanye West and all the other sell outs are rich because they have been allowed to become rich, the system is THEIRS dummy not yours.

cap28:
The great Muhammed Ali training in Zaire:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Jom8Ok_DA

Damn!! the golden days of boxing... I really wish I was born in that era.

This was when boxing was huge, being the heavyweight champion was like being the biggest celebrity in the world.

They selected the toughest jungle to stage the fight with the approval of Mobutu Sese Seko. They said temperatures in Zaire were so high the fighters were already sweating before entering the ring.

On Ali's way to the ring the crowds were chanting "Ali Bomaye" meaning Ali kill him.

Today causal boxing fans want to see a man smooch another man in the ring instead of fight

quimicababes:

This one of the major issues bedeviling so called black conscious folks... We play victim too much and are always pointing our hands at the almighty white man. We try to follow past leaders template without actually analysing them to see why they failed. It gets old yo

On a side note I don't think malachi york would be proud of the victim shouts. I am well acquainted with his teachings and know folks who follow it here. The last thing they do is cry victimization and they do practice black economics and are doing good for themselves.

Black conscious groups be hooked on conspiracy theories though... Nuwaupians included lol.

Lol, don't mind these modern-day lazy slaves. They personify all those slaves who refused freedom by Harriet Tubman cos they don't know they're slaves. All they ever do is moan about the "white devil" in one breath, while trying to destroy brothers doing things their own way without bowing to the white establishment. They're bitter souls - a bad mix of house negros and delusional pseudo-pro-black militants. They're race traitors hiding under being pro-black - the type that assassinated Malcolm X.

These folks don't even understand black economics.

50calibre:

Your boxing argument proves you're not even a boxing fan, no disrespect but you know much less about boxing than I thought you did. You should have known fighters move up and down the weight classes (I even gave you examples) and no mayweather isn't a natural 150lb, he's moved up four or five weight classes so moving up isn't a problem for him. Canelo Alvarez came down to fight him, Golovkin I'm sure would be willing to come down to fight him if that's what it takes. Golovkin would pulverise floyd to dust

Mayweather is no stranger to moving weights, he's moved weights several times, he moved weights to fight De la Hoya, Marquez, cotto... these are little things I'd expect a staunch mayweather fan to know.

I watched Carl Froch's analysis on fight night and he was obviously star struck by mayweather even more so after mayweather recognised him. The guy was given the opportunity to co-interview floyd and he made a right mug of himself. He was given a ring side seat (something that's naturally out of his league) so what do you expect from a guy who's never had any major fight outside his backyard, who's biggest fight was Wembley stadium?

I'm bored of the needless back and forth cos it's obvious you know next to nothing about boxing. However, I'll ask you a few questions, just to expose you further cos you have expanded the topic:

1). Since you want Mayweather at 39 who walks around as 150lbs to move up two divisions to face Golovkin, who is naturally a middle weight and walks around 170lbs...why not tell Golovkin who's still 33 and yet to move up in weight like all boxers do to move two weights up to light heavyweight to face Sergey Sergey Kovalev(who walks around at around 185-190lbs)? Note: the differences in weight are the same for Mayweather/Golovkin vis-a-vis Golovkin/Sergey Kovalev.

2). You asserted that Carl Froch, a multiple time world champion at middleweight and a future HoF, was star struck of Mayweather? If so, why wasn't he star struck when he saw Pacroid, since you believe he's greater than Mayweather?

I'm going to start picking you apart just to show how vacuous your arguments are.

I thought this thread was supposed to be about Adams Oshiomole and his new bride.

cap28:

Without Cus DAmato Tyson was destined for one of two places- the mortuary or Attica Federal Prison , Cus saved Tyson's life, NOW GET THIS INTO YOUR THICK SKULL - not all white people are evil. Tyson's life started going downhill when all the white people who MADE HIM either died or were removed from his life , GET THAT INTO YOUR FCKNG CRANIUM SIMP BOY.
Tyson was failed by his mother and father (black people) and was SAVED by whites who made him RICH. I know it hurts you to know that Tyson had the kind of money you will never see in a thousand millennia - $400 million baby, but it is what it is, deal with it , $400m to his name at the tender age of 29 .

You are such a simp, every single successful rapper that is out there today is only successful becaue the power structure ALLOWED them to be successful, if you don't sell out you can never be rich, keep deceiving yourself into thinking that the likes of ice cube could ever dream of being successful without selling out. Ask yourself why Ice cube no longer sings about bringing down the system you think he would have an acting career and all that money in the bank if he were seeking to bring down the very system that has made him rich.
You are one of the most naïve people I have ever come across in my life, every single "successful" black entertainer in the US is only successful becaue the power structure ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN, even Chuck D that you mention mellowed and stopped with the militant lyrics because he knew that if he didn't he would end up poor, I would advise you to watch Akala's videos that is one intelligent brother, he will give you a much needed education on how the hip hop industry is controlled by corporate America.

The white man is ten steps ahead of you and knows that simps like you are easy to fool and bamboozle. Jay Z, Kanye West and all the other sell outs are rich because they have been allowed to become rich, the system is THEIRS dummy not yours.

So, basically because the white man is ten steps ahead, black people must sit their ar.ses down and moan everyday like you always do - and not create wealth independent of the white establishment, no? And when they do like Mayweather and Ice Cube are doing independently, while keeping the riches in black hands under their own companies (Floyd Mayweather owns Mayweather Promotions while Ice Cube owns Lench Mob Records and an independent movie production company), we should hate on them, no?

However, we should all support a broke coon like Mike Tyson who has been ra.ped by white people from birth to date. He owns no company and whenever you see him around or in movies, he's always acting like a class clown, with big ar.se tattoo on his face like Gucci Mane.

That's your logic, coon-brother.

Cap28

I need to call on my nyggah, Nasir Oludara Jones the Nas, Nasty Nas, the God's son, and Escobar to call you what you're.

You're a black zombie!!

Nas - Black Zombie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zHMmvYrLNo

ShymmexOBE:

So, basically because the white man is ten steps ahead, black people must sit their ar.ses down and moan everyday like you always do - and not create wealth independent of the white establishment, no? And when they do like Mayweather and Ice Cube are doing independently, while keeping the riches in black hands under their own companies (Floyd Mayweather owns Mayweather Promotions while Ice Cube owns Lench Mob Records and an independent movie production company), we should hate on them, no?
However, we should all support a broke coon like Mike Tyson who has been ra.ped by white people from birth to date. He owns no company and whenever you see him around or in movies, he's always acting like a class clown, with big ar.se tattoo on his face like Gucci Mane.
That's your logic, coon-brother.

Obviously your sub standard sink estate education has resulted in you having sub standard comprehension skills. Let me say it again very slowly, THE SYSTEM IS RUN AND CONTROLLED BY WHITES, BLACK ENTERTAINERS WHO SUCCEED WITHIN THE SYSTEM ONLY DO SO BECAUSE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO SO. The idea that illiterate Mayweather could run a soup kitchen let alone a business is as I said before nothing more than a sick joke, remember Damon Dash used to be a "multi millionaire business man" in the 90s, where is he today? Black athletes and entertainers are made and propped up by white backers and financiers and the minute they stop dancing to the tune of the paymaster they get shafted. Damon Dash found that out the hard way. Ice cube depends on the same Jews that you are castigating dummy, how does he get the acting roles? Does he own a film studio, this is why I say you are a fool, hip hop is financed and propped up by white corporations and the few independent labels that existed in the 90s were bought out for pennies, whites control the media and he who controls the media dictates what is shown on it.

Speaking of solutions, I would really like to hear what yours are. I mean other than hanging onto every other rapper or entertainers nutl sack what exactly is your grand plan for the economic emancipation of the black race?

Let me guess sitting around hailing sell out rappers who would step over you in the street without a backward glance - right gotcha!

Simp boy rappers are guardians of the system of white supremacy, they are rich because they agreed to cut deals with white corporations and make music that degrades dehumanises blacks, their is nothing revolutionary or emancipatory about them, setting up a record company to sell disgusting music to your own people is the equivalent of being a crack cocaine dealer in the hood - both achieve the same thing - the destruction of the black race.


Tyson has lived the kind of life and achieved the kind of things that you can only dream of acheiving, he remains a hero and inspiration to people from all walks of life all over the world, he overcame huge obstacles to become the youngest heavy weight champ in boxing history, what have you done with your miserable life? Lets face it you are a nothing and a nobody and no-one will miss you when you eventually do the world a favour and shuffle off the face of this earth, the same can never be said of Tyson, he is a fighter and survivor and I respect him whereas you are a nothing a nobody and a zero. Does anyone care about you or your opinions? I think we both know what the answer is to that.

ShymmexOBE:


I'm bored of the needless back and forth cos it's obvious you know next to nothing about boxing. However, I'll ask you a few questions, just to expose you further cos you have expanded the topic:

1). Since you want Mayweather at 39 who walks around as 150lbs to move up two divisions to face Golovkin, who is naturally a middle weight and walks around 170lbs...why not tell Golovkin who's still 33 and yet to move up in weight like all boxers do to move two weights up to light heavyweight to face Sergey Sergey Kovalev(who walks around at around 185-190lbs)? Note: the differences in weight are the same for Mayweather/Golovkin vis-a-vis Golovkin/Sergey Kovalev.

2). You asserted that Carl Froch, a multiple time world champion at middleweight and a future HoF, was star struck of Mayweather? If so, why wasn't he star struck when he saw Pacroid, since you believe he's greater than Mayweather?

I'm going to start picking you apart just to show how vacuous your arguments are.

Hahahaha you wanna pick apart someone who has pugilism in his DNA? Ok! I hope you know what you're doing.

1 - Golovkin is willing to move up to light heavyweight to fight Kovalev should there be need for it. He will inevitably move up anyway after facing every challenger at 160lb.

Kovalev at the moment, wants no piece of Golovkin, apparently they're sparing partners and he can attest to golovkin'a punching power which will surely become more lethal when he moves up.

Floyd on the other hand has faced every challenger in the 147lb category, Pacquiao was the last. Who else is there to face? He could take up the challenge and move up for one or two more big PPV fights but I know that's never going to happen, Mayweather is too smart and too much of a coward to step into the ring with Golovkin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9pi6uYm6Jk


http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no

http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no

Golovkin - Kovalev will most likely happen sometime in the future, even golovkin's manager doesn't rule out its possibility

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/363731-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-anyone

Or alternatively, since Floyd holds all the aces, he could make Golovkin an offer to come down to 147lb to fight him. It's very possible.

2 - Carl Froch was so star struck, it was so glaring and embarrassing. At one point, he was flattering him and when he realised Mayweather knew who he was, ohhhh! He became wet.

Who told Froch wasn't star struck when he met Pacquiao? Well I can't speak about that, I only saw him meet Floyd. Froch's attitude is understandable anyway, given Floyd's flamboyance, it's only normal for a local champion like Froch to get carried away

I'm sorry but all he did on fight night was ride Mayweather's coc*k hard. Sky sports won't be inviting him to anymore mayweather fights, he's a fanboy and couldn't give reasonable/objective analysis.

If he had this reaction with bitc*h Floyd, he would have fainted if he met Tyson.

ShymmexOBE:


Lol, don't mind these modern-day lazy slaves. They personify all those slaves who refused freedom by Harriet Tubman cos they don't know they're slaves. All they ever do is moan about the "white devil" in one breath, while trying to destroy brothers doing things their own way without bowing to the white establishment. They're bitter souls - a bad mix of house negros and delusional pseudo-pro-black militants. They're race traitors hiding under being pro-black - the type that assassinated Malcolm X.

These folks don't even understand black economics.

Expecting black folks to practice black economics is like waiting for Jesus Christ to come.We are that messed up and don't recognize in a capitalistic society that is the main way you can protect yourself and minimize the effects of racism etc.Watch the Asians...despite whites not liking them...they are not totally dependent or at the mercy of whites to hire them and their generations unborn after university.They strive as hard as possible to have independent channels of wealth..with blacks usually being their mumu customers lol.

So far I be liking and agree totally with what Claud Anderson be saying and economics is one of the major reasons a lot of the black liberation movements failed as the very persons behind them are struggling for their daily bread.How you gon bun the system and you can't feed yourself,cloth yourself nor shelter yourself?...where many don't even own their own homes etc.

Having grown up around people who claim black consciousness...I personally find they are just as lost and confused as the sheeple just they can spit yo the Black man is God yada yah...same shit different package.Just my 2 cents.

quimicababes:

Expecting black folks to practice black economics is like waiting for Jesus Christ to come.We are that messed up and don't recognize in a capitalistic society that is the main way you can protect yourself and minimize the effects of racism etc.Watch the Asians...despite whites not liking them...they are not totally dependent or at the mercy of whites to hire them and their generations unborn after university.They strive as hard as possible to have independent channels of wealth..with blacks usually being their mumu customers lol.

So far I be liking and agree totally with what Claud Anderson be saying and economics is one of the major reasons a lot of the black liberation movements failed as the very persons behind them are struggling for their daily bread.How you gon bun the system and you can't feed yourself,cloth yourself nor shelter yourself?...where many don't even own their own homes etc.

Having grown up around people who claim black consciousness...I personally find they are just as lost and confused as the sheeple just they can spit yo the Black man is God yada yah...same shit different package.Just my 2 cents.

Lmao...don't mind them. They don't know black folks will never amount to nothing without understanding black economics and learning how to create wealth, independent of the establishment.

Hence these coons hate black folks who have mastered the economics.

50calibre:

Hahahaha you wanna pick apart someone who has pugilism in his DNA? Ok! I hope you know what you're doing.

1 - Golovkin is willing to move up to light heavyweight to fight Kovalev should there be need for it. He will inevitably move up anyway after facing every challenger at 160lb.

Kovalev at the moment, wants no piece of Golovkin, apparently they're sparing partners and he can attest to golovkin'a punching power which will surely become more lethal when he moves up.

Floyd on the other hand has faced every challenger in the 147lb category, Pacquiao was the last. Who else is there to face? He could take up the challenge and move up for one or two more big PPV fights but I know that's never going to happen, Mayweather is too smart and too much of a coward to step into the ring with Golovkin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9pi6uYm6Jk


http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no

http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no

Golovkin - Kovalev will most likely happen sometime in the future, even golovkin's manager doesn't rule out its possibility

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/363731-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-anyone

Or alternatively, since Floyd holds all the aces, he could make Golovkin an offer to come down to 147lb to fight him. It's very possible.

2 - Carl Froch was so star struck, it was so glaring and embarrassing. At one point, he was flattering him and when he realised Mayweather knew who he was, ohhhh! He became wet.

Who told Froch wasn't star struck when he met Pacquiao? Well I can't speak about that, I only saw him meet Floyd. Froch's attitude is understandable anyway, given Floyd's flamboyance, it's only normal for a local champion like Froch to get carried away

I'm sorry but all he did on fight night was ride Mayweather's coc*k hard. Sky sports won't be inviting him to anymore mayweather fights, he's a fanboy and couldn't give reasonable/objective analysis.

If he had this reaction with bitc*h Floyd, he would have fainted if he met Tyson.

50calibre:

Hahahaha you wanna pick apart someone who has pugilism in his DNA? Ok! I hope you know what you're doing.

1 - Golovkin is willing to move up to light heavyweight to fight Kovalev should there be need for it. He will inevitably move up anyway after facing every challenger at 160lb.

Kovalev at the moment, wants no piece of Golovkin, apparently they're sparing partners and he can attest to golovkin'a punching power which will surely become more lethal when he moves up.

Floyd on the other hand has faced every challenger in the 147lb category, Pacquiao was the last. Who else is there to face? He could take up the challenge and move up for one or two more big PPV fights but I know that's never going to happen, Mayweather is too smart and too much of a coward to step into the ring with Golovkin.

http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no

http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no

Golovkin - Kovalev will most likely happen sometime in the future, even golovkin's manager doesn't rule out its possibility

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/363731-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-anyone

Or alternatively, since Floyd holds all the aces, he could make Golovkin an offer to come down to 147lb to fight him. It's very possible.

2 - Carl Froch was so star struck, it was so glaring and embarrassing. At one point, he was flattering him and when he realised Mayweather knew who he was, ohhhh! He became wet.

Who told Froch wasn't star struck when he met Pacquiao? Well I can't speak about that, I only saw him meet Floyd. Froch's attitude is understandable anyway, given Floyd's flamboyance, it's only normal for a local champion like Froch to get carried away

I'm sorry but all he did on fight night was ride Mayweather's coc*k hard. Sky sports won't be inviting him to anymore mayweather fights, he's a fanboy and couldn't give reasonable/objective analysis.

If he had this reaction with bitc*h Floyd, he would have fainted if he met Tyson.

Lmao...you've pugilism in ya DNA, yet you think with ya brittle hands, you can actually cause damage to someone's face with an 8oz gloves, when real boxers whose hands are more or less weapons can't do it? Do you even know what an 8oz gloves look like and why they call it the pillow gloves? - get the porky pies out of ya mouth, you're starting to sound utter ridiculous apart from being a casual fan.

So basically your proof that Golovkin is willing to move to light heavyweight is a YouTube video of an interview with Golovkin's coach about sparring with Kovalev, no? And you mean the same Golovkin who already said he isn't ready to move up in weight to face Andre Ward Super-middleweight - claiming money, is actually going to move up to face Kovalev? How ridiculous can you get? He'll get knocked out old at little heavyweight with ease. Just tell him to stop giving excuses about money and ducking like a biitch and face Andre Ward after Ward schools Paul Smith.

Mayweather will destroy him at 147. A guy with no jab and footwork like Golovkin would be schooled like a biitch at 147 the same way Mayweather schooled Saul Alvarez. And you casual fans will come more excuses about how he was weight drained.

You said Carl Froch was star struck when he saw Mayweather hence he commended him for his genius in the ring and how he picked Pacroid apart. However, you're back again saying he was probably star struck of Pacroid as well. Okay, let's now accept that he was star struck of both fighters. So would agree that opinions that day were objective? (I'm sure you will come back again to spin it another way)

Anyway, let me leave you in ya delusion, with a post by my doozy on CIF yesterday when we were debating casual boxing fans like you:


Denial

Floyd didn't win. Pacquiao won. Floyd ran all night and barely threw a punch or land one. Only one person came to fight.

Anger

I can't believe I paid money for this/stayed up all night to watch this. So disappointed I didn't get to see Pacquiao knock out Mayweather. I can't believe the boxing authorities allow boxers to use the entire good footwork and hit and not be hit!!

Bargaining

Oh Pacquaio was injured. That is why he didn't knock out Mayweather. That explains it.

Depression

Oh my God. If that was the best boxing had to offer it is dead. I'm off to watch UFC. Thanks a lot Mayweather and you too, Obama!

Acceptance

OK. I've seen the fight again and Mayweather did win but he will never be called an all-time great because he hasn't fought anyone in their prime.

Mayweather should go up a weight and fight Golovkin. He'll do to Mayweather what Pacquiao couldn't do because he was injured..

Yeah... Golovkin. He'll let me finally get my wish to see Mayweather really get hurt bad.

That will be great for ME, I mean great for boxing...

***

Some of you bitter numpties are so transparent

Off to to bed, it's past my bed time....numpties numpties numpties. We love you!

Cap28 and 50calibre

While the both of you are hating, Floyd "Money and Pretty Boy" Mayweather is singing this tune, saying, "Cash rules everything around me/cream get the money/dollar dollar bills yo".

Let Wu Tang Clan tell you how it's:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwAxmrE194

ShymmexOBE:




Lmao...you've pugilism in ya DNA, yet you think with ya brittle hands, you can actually cause damage to someone's face with an 8oz gloves, when real boxers whose hands are more or less weapons can't do it? Do you even know what an 8oz gloves look like and why they call it the pillow gloves? - get the porky pies out of ya mouth, you're starting to sound utter ridiculous apart from being a casual fan. .

Lolz why are you doing this to yourself? You know quite alright you have little to no knowledge regarding this subject, why continue trying to convince yourself that you do? Ok let me indulge you for a moment.

8oz gloves are so small, they're more of kids toys. Here's a link to sports direct, you could order one right now for your little cousin.

http://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/Product/partNumber/9267332.htm

Now for someone like me who weights above 190lb, lacing those gloves (that's if they actually fit) and punching someone with it, it's guaranteed to have almost the same effect as bare knuckle. Here's a little glove knowledge for you, take the time to read it and be informed in the subject.

http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-basics/boxing-equipment/what-boxing-gloves-to-use

So basically your proof that Golovkin is willing to move to light heavyweight is a YouTube video of an interview with Golovkin's coach about sparring with Kovalev, no? And you mean the same Golovkin who already said he isn't ready to move up in weight to face Andre Ward Super-middleweight - claiming money, is actually going to move up to face Kovalev? How ridiculous can you get? He'll get knocked out old at little heavyweight with ease. Just tell him to stop giving excuses about money and ducking like a biitch and face Andre Ward after Ward schools Paul Smith.

What other evidence were you expecting? A signed contract?

Did you read my previous post at all? I said he would move to light heavyweight if need be . Do you expect a fighter to just move up weight like that for peanuts? If the money comes correct, I guarantee he'd move up just for a single fight else why should he when he's not fought every challenger in his current weight class?

Hence I said since Mayweather is the money man, he calls the shots and runs his own empire, he could offer Golovkin some good money to have him come down and fight him.. He doesn't need to offer him the world, I'm sure a meagre $5 or $10 million would do.

C'mon tell ya boy Floyd to rep the money team

Mayweather will destroy him at 147 . A guy with no jab and footwork like Golovkin would be schooled like a biitch at 147 the same way Mayweather schooled Saul Alvarez. And you casual fans will come more excuses about how he was weight drained.

Lolz wishful thinking. Are you going to wager on Mayweather against that guy? Golovkin will hurt Floyd so bad, he may be permanently damaged. The guy is a stalker, he stalks his opponent till he weakens them with power punches to the body, to the face, arms.. everywhere.. And he's got a good chin too.

You said Carl Froch was star struck when he saw Mayweather hence he commended him for his genius in the ring and how he picked Pacroid apart. However, you're back again saying he was probably star struck of Pacroid as well. Okay, let's now accept that he was star struck of both fighters. So would agree that opinions that day were objective? (I'm sure you will come back again to spin it another way)

Carl Froch is a fan boy, a mayweather dic*k rider, it was so obvious on fight night. He's almost the same age as Floyd but on May 2 he was like a little 15 year old Justin Beiber fan

Was he not the same guy who said he isn't an Ali fan... That's shows he's a man of poor taste.

Anyway, let me leave you in ya delusion, with a post by my doozy on CIF yesterday when we were debating casual boxing fans like you:


Denial

Floyd didn't win. Pacquiao won. Floyd ran all night and barely threw a punch or land one. Only one person came to fight.

Anger

I can't believe I paid money for this/stayed up all night to watch this. So disappointed I didn't get to see Pacquiao knock out Mayweather. I can't believe the boxing authorities allow boxers to use the entire good footwork and hit and not be hit!!

Bargaining

Oh Pacquaio was injured. That is why he didn't knock out Mayweather. That explains it.

Depression

Oh my God. If that was the best boxing had to offer it is dead. I'm off to watch UFC. Thanks a lot Mayweather and you too, Obama!

Acceptance

OK. I've seen the fight again and Mayweather did win but he will never be called an all-time great because he hasn't fought anyone in their prime.

Mayweather should go up a weight and fight Golovkin. He'll do to Mayweather what Pacquiao couldn't do because he was injured..

Yeah... Golovkin. He'll let me finally get my wish to see Mayweather really get hurt bad.

That will be great for ME, I mean great for boxing...

***

Some of you bitter numpties are so transparent

Off to to bed, it's past my bed time....numpties numpties numpties. We love you!

lol enjoy you psychology lecture, it's for you, Froch and other mayweather fanboys besides have you ordered your money team T-shirt and cap?

50calibre:

Lolz why are you doing this to yourself? You know quite alright you have little to no knowledge regarding this subject, why continue trying to convince yourself that you do? Ok let me indulge you for a moment.

8oz gloves are so small, they're more of kids toys. Here's a link to sports direct, you could order one right now for your little cousin.

Now for someone like me who weights above 190lb, lacing those gloves (that's if they actually fit) and punching someone with it, it's guaranteed to have almost the same effect as bare knuckle. Here's a little glove knowledge for you, take the time to read it and be informed in the subject.

Lmao...the straw you're grasping at now is the kids' gloves at argos, no? I'd wager that you also believe kids' rackets are also the same as the professional ones, no? Thanks for the good laugh and for exposing yourself. You don't know anything about boxing, mate. And the more you post the more you get exposed.

Just go check why they call the everlast 8oz gloves the pillow gloves, and come back to me.

Also, size has absolutely nothing to do with punching power the way your knuckles are formed. If that were the case, then Nikolai Valuev should be the most powerful puncher ever. I shall keep picking you apart.

What other evidence were you expecting? A signed contract?

A video of him calling Kovalev out should suffice not some kiddies' tale by his trainer.

Did you read my previous post at all? I said he would move to light heavyweight if need be . Do you expect a fighter to just move up weight like that for peanuts? If the money comes correct, I guarantee he'd move up just for a single fight else why should he when he's not fought every challenger in his current weight class?

Hence I said since Mayweather is the money man, he calls the shots and runs his own empire, he could offer Golovkin some good money to have him come down and fight him.. He doesn't need to offer him the world, I'm sure a meagre $5 or $10 million would do.

C'mon tell ya boy Floyd to rep the money team

However, why do you want Mayweather to move up to face him then? Golovkin's fan-base is still very small, apart from the HBO hype job. He has no following like the likes of Canelo and Cotto. So what's the business sense in it for Mayweather, apart from folks like you who just want him to take on anyone you think can beat him?

Golovkin doesn't even have the skillset to beat Mayweather - he's too green, with no jab and footwork. Couple with the fact that he leans forward with his head all the time. He fight more like a bigger Ricky Hatton and Mayweather shouldn't have any problem schooling him, if they ever meet.

Lolz wishful thinking. Are you going to wager on Mayweather against that guy? Golovkin will hurt Floyd so bad, he may be permanently damaged. The guy is a stalker, he stalks his opponent till he weakens them with power punches to the body, to the face, arms.. everywhere.. And he's got a good chin too.

Canelo Alvarez with a the same punching power and a better pedigree got schooled like an amateur by Mayweather. The same fate awaits ya hype job called: Golovkin.

Carl Froch is a fan boy, a mayweather dic*k rider, it was so obvious on fight night. He's almost the same age as Floyd but on May 2 he was like a little 15 year old Justin Beiber fan

Was he not the same guy who said he isn't an Ali fan... That's shows he's a man of poor taste.

Lmao...and another twist like I predicted. You're a gift that keeps on giving. Just bow to King Mayweather and stop being stubborn - TBE.

lol enjoy you psychology lecture, it's for you, Froch and other mayweather fanboys besides have you ordered your money team T-shirt and cap?

TBE and TMT - that's how we're rolling!

ShymmexOBE:


Lmao...the straw you're grasping at now is the kids' gloves at argos, no? I'd wager that you also believe kids' rackets are also the same as the professional ones, no? Thanks for the good laugh and for exposing yourself. You don't know anything about boxing, mate. And the more you post the more you get exposed.

Just go check why they call the everlast 8oz gloves the pillow gloves, and come back to me.

You mean this one?

http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/everlast-8oz-junior-boxing-gloves-131987?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Summit-Google-_-NonBrand-_-PLA&_$ja=cgid:18000973096%7Ctsid:49590%7Ccid:320438656%7Clid:18283950120%7Cnw:g%7Ccrid:57096822616%7Crnd:5121281427678534586%7Cdvc:m%7Cadp:1o2%7Cbku:1

Hahahaha an 8oz gloves is an 8oz gloves it's simple as ABC... please stop embarrassing yourself, you've lost. Just accept defeat, it doesn't make you a lesser man.

Also, size has absolutely nothing to do with punching power the way your knuckles are formed. If that were the case, then Nikolai Valuev should be the most powerful puncher ever. I shall keep picking you apart.

What? Did you just say this? Hahahahaha it's official, my man has more boxing knowledge than you. This unforgivable statement right here is conclusive proof that you're a boxing novice and all your boxing arguments are hereby rendered invalid

A video of him calling Kovalev out should suffice not some kiddies' tale by his trainer.

lol they're sparing partners and perhaps friends so they're not going to call each other out.

Just stop, I'm wiping the floor with you.

Please go upgrade your knowledge of the sport before we can have a proper boxing debate.

This might be a good place to start

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/may/18/boxing-gennady-golovkin-willie-monroe-jr-floyd-mayweather-middleweight-wba-kevin-mitchell

http://www.sportingnews.com/sport/story/2015-05-18/mayweather-golovkin-manny-pacquiao-canelo-alvarez-miguel-cotto-ggg-gennady-floyd-boxing

That's an advice for Floyd to steer clear of that KO artist.

50calibre:

You mean this one?

Hahahaha an 8oz gloves is an 8oz gloves it's simple as ABC... please stop embarrassing yourself, you've lost. Just accept defeat, it doesn't make you a lesser man.

An 8oz glove is an 8oz glove, just as kids' head tennis rackets are the same as the professional head tennis rackets, no? Your logic right there. You can't make this up.

What? Did you just say this? Hahahahaha it's official, my man has more boxing knowledge than you. This unforgivable statement right here is conclusive proof that you're a boxing novice and all your boxing arguments are hereby rendered invalid

lol they're sparing partners and perhaps friends so they're not going to call each other out.

Just stop, I'm wiping the floor with you.

Please go upgrade your knowledge of the sport before we can have a proper boxing debate.

This might be a good place to start

That's an advice for Floyd to steer clear of that KO artist.

So, you had to pull a vacuous article from GuardianUK by Kevin Mitchell, a perennial/perpetual Mayweather hater, who's also a freelance journalist - hence he hasn't been sacked from the Guardian yet due to the large volume of complaints they get on how anti-Mayweather he's, no? If you're an avid Guardian reader, you'd know that Kevin Mitchell has been hating on Mayweather since he whooped Ricky Hatton's ar.se.

And that's who you had to quote to show ya knowledge of boxing? - hahahahaha. You're a gift that keeps on giving.