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weedtaker:
ashley young won't reach the heights cause he doesn't play the real madrid way, just as di maria won't reach youngs heights cause he's not playing the united way.

young height? Real. Madrid way? United way?
I'd love u to talk more on the last two.
Then we'll talk about the first

coogar:
the cats here get easily fooled by foreign players. di maria's numbers @madrid were inflated because he was surrounded by goal machines while there. ozil also generated 20+ assists in that league & he's completely dried up @arsenal right now.


i guess ozil is still adjusting to england's football life too. any fool can generate assists in la liga. it's the equivalent of the scottish league. 3 solid teams on top & 17 rubbish teams below them. in which other top league are the front 3 generating this kinda numbers?

I went to check which year Ozil had 20+ assists and I didn't find any, his highest was 17!

BTW is Ozil the only play that switched from la liga to EPL? The top 2 'assisters' in la liga last year are also still the top 2 in EPL this season, so what where you saying?

coogar:
we should sell him to PSG to nick pogba or vidal.

as long as we recoup that hefty fee we paid and even possibly make a profit I won't mind at all.

i would choose young 20 times over.
young wouldn't complain on the bench & his workrate is better than di maria's. of course, di maria has the wow moments to get you jumping off your feet once in a while but that is not enough in the premier league.

that's what makes young the ultimate squad player. Hardly anything more.
And di Maria isnt going to be inconsistent forever.

a fit ashley young in madrid would cop 35 assists. did you see the chart i posted? 118 goals in one season between 3 forwards and you think young wouldn't provide 1/3 of that at least?

lol. A fit young wouldn't get in the team, how then can he paste those numbers.

PietroRico:
as long as we recoup that hefty fee we paid and even possibly make a profit I won't mind at all.

he can fly for £50m

lol. A fit young wouldn't get in the team, how then can he paste those numbers.

he will make their team.
this team once paraded gravesen in their midfield & they have players like contreao too. la liga is the easiest league to generate stats if you play for barca or madrid.

homesteady:
I went to check which year Ozil had 20+ assists and I didn't find any, his highest was 17!

assists per season(all competitions)
jeez!

BTW is Ozil the only play that switched from la liga to EPL? The top 2 'assisters' in la liga last year are also still the top 2 in EPL this season, so what where you saying?

what are their numbers in la liga - what are their numbers in the premier league. why is ozil not performing in england?

PietroRico:
lol. A fit young wouldn't get in the team, how then can he paste those numbers.

but a declining british traditional winger (beckham) got into a madrid team stronger than dis current one

PietroRico:
The Maria signing wasn't something we really needed last summer and it was something I very quickly pointed out

We needed a Dm more and as we would have it, hindsight has done justice to that assertion

we grabbed the chance to sign one of the best and most in-form players in the world so as to fortify a particular position that has suffered so badly since the exit of Ronaldo and the losses of form for both nani and Valencia. This IMO, wasn't a bad idea.

PietroRico:
Add someone like vidal to the team and remove di maria, I think it makes sense to suggest that we would not have ended up fighting looserpool for 4th place.

This is hilarious...

How would the acquisition of Vidal have prevented LVG from playing the 3-5-2 system that made us play so poorly, or the injuries that ravaged our back line at the start , or the lackluster performances of our centre forwards all season(if you ask me, these are the major factors that affected us )

PietroRico:
That said, the fact that di Maria has had trouble adjusting to football and generally life in England.

If we must become a top team in Europe once again, we need to have a fit and firing di Maria .

Exactly....

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weedtaker:
but a declining beckham got into a madrid team stronger than dis current one

a useless beckham & a rotten owen got into that madrid side. abeg, di maria is average. he's too inconsistent. few people pointed this out last season but some people can't dig their fingers out of their bums.

has he been an improvement on what we had? no, he hasn't. if nani had stayed and was given the same amount of time as young this season, i have no doubt we woulda been higher on the table. woodward just wanted to please the fans with di maria.

he wasn't what we really needed last summer.

coogar:
& did di maria play as a left back this season? you are a dunce!

i am not assuming - i know young is a stat machine. there was a time young was producing 17 assists per season as a winger.

has danny rose ever been a winger or have you traded your IQ with a pot of porridge? why not say if de gea had been a winger, he would have notched 300 assists? when you get found out for your lack of intelligence, you start spewing balderdash.

you are the biggest cretin this section has produced with your subzero IQ. are you even reading what you are typing? young is a winger that got deployed to do a job at the back to accommodate di maria in the first half of the season. he's naturally a winger.
danny rose has always been a defender - there's no precedence or history of him ever excelling as a winger. so for you to sit there and think rose as a winger would produce more stats tells me your child development was badly mismanaged. you are an obnoxious serial idïot.

fück outta here before i pee in your face.

Lmaoooooooooooo! this guy has enough energy oh! Just a little discussion and you are spitting venom on me as if I used juju to make you impotent! If you have so much energy to burn, don't waste it on me, I suggest you should burn it by trekking for either GEJ or GMB!

1) You said Young is the most productive winger in the world apart from Messi and Cr7
2) We compared with Di Maria, and he dusted Young, but you said he played as a left back for half of the season! Okay, I agreed

3) I decided to use a permanent left back for comparison because if I use another winger, you'll still come up with your 'Young played as a left back for half of the season' excuse!

4) I used Danny Rose as my example - modern full backs and wingers almost play the same style, but one is a defender and the other an attacker! It is expected that the winger should have far better stats than the full back ( thats why you Di Maria has better stats than Young) But Danny Rose has almost equal stats with some one that played as a winger for half of the season, (though he played more mins) So you see, your Young is not as productive as how you are making him to look like!

PietroRico:
tbh I didn't believe he was going to struggle this hard.
I just felt the improvement he was going to bring would have been better elsewhere.

I was complaining that he was going to be inconsistent, but he proved me wrong
He was consistently rubbish


This however takes nothing away from di maria as a player.
He obviously has more in his locker to offer.
In an ideal scenario...
If I have the option of choosing between an Ashley young and a di Maria at their best, I would still go for angel a thousand times over.


Ashley young in that Madrid team would not reach di Maria's heights

Even at the start of the season

coogar:
the same ashley young that has graced the PFA team of the season twice has one decent season? amnesia is a terrible disease - see your GP asap!



that was exactly what i said last summer. i told these herbs that di maria wouldn't improve the wingers we already had in the squad and his fees should be spent in the midfield area. lo & behold, young has kept di maria away from the starting XI with back to back MOTM awards.


the cats here get easily fooled by foreign players. di maria's numbers @madrid were inflated because he was surrounded by goal machines while there. ozil also generated 20+ assists in that league & he's completely dried up @arsenal right now.

i guess ozil is still adjusting to england's football life too. any fool can generate assists in la liga. it's the equivalent of the scottish league. 3 solid teams on top & 17 rubbish teams below them. in which other top league are the front 3 generating this kinda numbers?

But how come Di Maria managed to have second highest assist despite his poor season coupled with misfiring forwards

homesteady:
Lmaoooooooooooo! this guy has enough energy oh! Just a little discussion and you are spitting venom on me as if I used juju to make you impotent! If you have so much energy to burn, don't waste it on me, I suggest you should burn it by trekking for either GEJ or GMB!

1) You said Young is the most productive winger in the world apart from Messi and Cr7
2) We compared with Di Maria, and he dusted Young, but you said he played as a left back for half of the season! Okay, I agreed

3) I decided to use a permanent left back for comparison because if I use another winger, you'll still come up with your 'Young played as a left back for half of the season' excuse!

4) I used Danny Rose as my example - modern full backs and wingers almost play the same style, but one is a defender and the other an attacker! It is expected that the winger should have far better stats than the full back ( thats why you Di Maria has better stats than Young) But Danny Rose has almost equal stats with some one that played as a winger for half of the season, (though he played more mins) So you see, your Young is not as productive as how you are making him to look like!

Dadehmola:
we grabbed the chance to sign one of the best and most in-form players in the world so as to fortify a particular position that has suffered so badly since the exit of Ronaldo and the losses of form for both nani and Valencia. This IMO, wasn't a bad idea.



This is hilarious...

How would the acquisition of Vidal have prevented LVG from playing the 3-5-2 system that made us play so poorly, or the injuries that ravaged our back line at the start , or the lackluster performances of our centre forwards all season(if you ask me, these are the major factors that affected us )

your 1st point has been trashed here repeatedly.
Now is not such a good time to go into it again.


We struggled because of very many reasons

The lack of proper dm is arguably the biggest of them as illustrated by how we fell flat on our asses when carrick got his latest injury

homesteady:
Lmaoooooooooooo! this guy has enough energy oh! Just a little discussion and you are spitting venom on me as if I used juju to make you impotent! If you have so much energy to burn, don't waste it on me, I suggest you should burn it by trekking for either GEJ or GMB!

i don't trek for no one - i ain't a jobless maggot like you.

1) You said Young is the most productive winger in the world apart from Messi and Cr7
2) We compared with Di Maria, and he dusted Young, but you said he played as a left back for half of the season! Okay, I agreed

over the past 6-8 seasons.
i didn't just scoop out that stats based on this season. i based it on his entire career in the premier league. please pay attention to the details. young was producing 16 league assists in aston villa for mid-tier strikers like agbonlahor. 16 league assists!

3) I decided to use a permanent left back for comparison because if I use another winger, you'll still come up with your 'Young played as a left back for half of the season' excuse!

your decision was stupïd cos rose has never played as a winger. daft analogy!

4) I used Danny Rose as my example - modern full backs and wingers almost play the same style, but one is a defender and the other an attacker! It is expected that the winger should have far better stats than the full back ( thats why you Di Maria has better stats than Young) But Danny Rose has almost equal stats with some one that played as a winger for half of the season, (though he played more mins) So you see, your Young is not as productive as how you are making him to look like!

tell us one season then that rose copped 16 league assists. failure to do that then you are a brainless sheep. danny rose does not have equal stats as young. that silly comment stemmed from the fact that you cannot read statistics.

Dadehmola:


Even at the start of the season

being rubbish for three quarters of a season is mind blowing consistency

PietroRico:
your 1st point has been trashed here repeatedly.
Now is not such a good time to go into it again.

The more reason why I was surprised you brought it up, despite this well-publicized interview last summer...

"At this moment, we have five no. nines and four no. 10s – and we don't have any wingers to give us attacking width.Or, I should say, we don't have wingers of the highest level, like Ronaldo or Di Maria or somebody like that. So, I have to play another way –and you have seen that already. I only buy when I think we need to buy –the position that is necessary."

PietroRico:
We struggled because of very many reasons

The lack of proper dm is arguably the biggest of them as illustrated by how we fell flat on our asses when carrick got his latest injury

Yeah, but the same carrick was absent when we were playing the diamond that worked so well at the start of the season.

Like you said earlier, let's hope di Maria and other players (both current and potential signings) stay in form for considerable and key periods next season.

Since this argument has dragged on..we might as well keep at it.I cnt bliv pipl are comparing Young to Ozil,Di Maria and oda world class players.Young has been okay dis season.I said it b4.He has been nothing special.Young has been completely useless for 3 years and now he is playing decently..Pipl av started saying he is d best thing since sliced bread.Lets put this in context;Pipl keep talking abt Hw di maria has been average and shit dis season and yet d reality is he is more productive dan Young who is d best invention after d internet according to some pipl.Its like saying I am so bad and yu are so good in academics and yet d person who is bad carries 2nd position while d oda who is claimed to b so good carries 12 th position and yet dis is wat most here are doing.Wud Young ever play for real madrid?Y are top clubs intersted in Ashley Young since according to one bugger he is d best winger after Messi and Ronaldo? Wud Young be d record premier league signing or record la liga signing?Y are we evn having dis stupid discussion?

Well, I wouldn't mind trading Di Maria for Thiago Silva.

Everyone's happy

Di Maria no doubt is an inconsistent player ,I hv said dis b4 n I'll keep on saying it but he is still a world class player ,for sm1 who is having a horrible season n still boasts of 11 assists n could hv gotten more if our strikers were not sh1t dis season ,I definitely will take him over an Ashley young any time ...


Ashley Young ,no doubt ,is a hardworking SOB n he is a team player ,an out n out primary winger n a utility player but if we r looking at competing with d big boys again ,we certainly need a supercharged hungry di Maria to get us dia n we also need a lumberjack Ashley Young in d team as cover. The signing of Di Maria was to mk a statement dat united can still attract d big guns n if we had gotten a DMF ,2 center halves n a right back ,we would be singing a different tune

coogar:
assists per season(all competitions)
jeez!

lmao you are grasping at straws now -
ozil also generated 20+ assists in that league Was it a ghost that wrote this?

what are their numbers in la liga - what are their numbers in the premier league. why is ozil not performing in england?

Didn't you see the numbers I posted?
Why is Fabregas the assist king in England?

PietroRico:
being rubbish for three quarters of a season is mind blowing consistency

Since you have agreed that his 1st year has been very difficult (due to the obvious reasons you yourself stated), there's no need dwelling over this issue again.

homesteady:
lmao you are grasping at straws now -
ozil also generated 20+ assists in that league Was it a ghost that wrote this?

in that league is different from in spanish la liga. 20+ assists is referring to all competitions, you doofus.

Didn't you see the numbers I posted?
Why is Fabregas the assist king in England?

cesc was an assist king before he left for spain. cesc was blooded in england, one of the reasons he became an outcast in barca. you have an uncanny ability of bringing up daft analogies.

parrotibaba: Di Maria no doubt is an inconsistent player ,I hv said dis b4 n I'll keep on saying it but he is still a world class player ,for sm1 who is having a horrible season n still boasts of 11 assists n could hv gotten more if our strikers were not sh1t dis season ,I definitely will take him over an Ashley young any time ...

ashley young had 16 league assists at villa when he had agbonlahor & carew as strikers. di maria was shyte abeg. let's not forget he also played in the centre for many games too where he was closest to the centre forward to tread a final ball to them.

Despite Young having more minutes dis season he cnt evn beat in any stats at all and dis is supposed to b Ashley Maradona dis season.I wonder wat last year wud b like wen Young was completely terrible and di maria was d best winger in d world.Some pipl dnt use their brains.Comparing Young to di maria is like needing a doctor for mental examination

Kemizee:
Despite Young having more minutes dis season he cnt evn beat in any stats at all and dis is supposed to b Ashley Maradona dis season.I wonder wat last year wud b like wen Young was completely terrible and di maria was d best winger in d world.Some pipl dnt use their brains.Comparing Young to di maria is like needing a doctor for mental examination

Even though I'm not a stats person, I would like you to post the comparison matrices of di Maria, silva, Sanchez etc

Thats for Sanchez,Fabregas,Di Maria and Silva bro.Zoom to see clearer if u not using a PC

Kemizee:
Thats for Sanchez,Fabregas,Di Maria and Silva bro.Zoom to see clearer if u not using a PC

your stats are flawed - stop posting absolute numbers when drawing conclusions on statistics. the number of minutes each of them played does not reflect in these stats. seriously, how did some of you pass junior WAEC?

I have added Hazard!

coogar:
your stats are flawed - stop posting absolute numbers when drawing conclusions on statistics. the number of minutes each of them played does not reflect in these stats. seriously, how did some of you pass junior WAEC?

den obviously ur eyes are flawed because d first thing beneath each name is d no. of minutes played.Go for an eye correction test

Ashley young was okay this season because he had people like fellaino to convert his crosses, when push comes to shove and crosses ain't working, he rarely make those individual runs like di maria does, Comparing Di Maria with Ashley Young is really disgusting, Di Maria on his own day will trounce any winger. There are many times ronaldo and others would be having an off day, it's di maria that will make things happen.
I really hope Di Maria put his doubters to sword next season.
GGMU...

Kemizee:
den obviously ur eyes are flawed because d first thing beneath each name is d no. of minutes played.Go for an eye correction test

you are a tool!
so if hazard has 92 created chances in 3283 mins then he's better than david silva with 91 created chances in 2548 mins? after all, 92 is higher than 91 according to a doofus like you. i ask again, how did you pass junior WAEC with this level of gross stupïdity?

Numerouuuno:
Ashley young was okay this season because he had people like fellaino to convert his crosses, when push comes to shove and crosses ain't working, he rarely make those individual runs like di maria does, Comparing Di Maria with Ashley Young is really disgusting, Di Maria on his own day will trounce any winger. There are many times ronaldo and others would be having an off day, it's di maria that will make things happen.
I really hope Di Maria put his doubters to sword next season.
GGMU...

so why was he sold then?
di maria the saviour was sold but ronaldo & co with many off-days were retained. ronaldo would win european golden shoe this season without di maria providing the ammo. united would have the lowest goalscorer of any league season in the history of the premier league this year with di maria........and di maria is the saviour?


@SIRCUMALOT,
for the 3rd season running, silva undressed eden hazard again. are you going to throw in the towel now that david silva is the most creative player in england? statistically, the only thing hazard does better than silva is scoring awoof penalties & making irrelevant dribbles.

coogar:
you are a tool!
so if hazard has 92 created chances in 3283 mins then he's better than david silva with 91 created chances in 2548 mins? after all, 92 is higher than 91 according to a doofus like you. i ask again, how did you pass junior WAEC with this level of gross stupïdity?



so why was he sold then?
di maria the saviour was sold but ronaldo & co with many off-days were retained. ronaldo would win european golden shoe this season without di maria providing the ammo. united would have the lowest goalscorer of any league season in the history of the premier league this year with di maria........and di maria is the saviour?

I'm sure your anus must be jealous of your mouth cause of the amount of shi,t it spews, you have gone from where are the minutes played to 92 and 91, you are the doofus here, an idiotic one at that.. the treatment di maria got at Madrid is what bale is getting now, according to your daft logic, bale must be shyte then, the only person who wouldn't get such treatment at Madrid is Ronaldo

If young likes, let him play like this from now till eternity, only clubs like tottenham and liverpool will come for him, and if he is sought after by clubs like chelsea, Madrid or man city, then it's to become a squad player and that's fact that even a slowpoke like you know

Young is so good and he has never made top 20 in Europe.... coogar, I've always known you were foolish but this foolish? Jeez

Omo! Still observing since last night!
*Grabs chair* *Grabs chin-chin* *Grabs juice*

IKILL:
I'm sure your anus must be jealous of your mouth cause of the amount of shi,t it spews, you have gone from where are the minutes played to 92 and 91, you are the doofus here, an idiotic one at that.. the treatment di maria got at Madrid is what bale is getting now, according to your daft logic, bale must be shyte then, the only person who wouldn't get such treatment at Madrid is Ronaldo

your anus is jealous of your father for the amount of shyte he polluted your mother's womb with to conceive you. gareth bale is shyte. di maria was even better than bale @madrid.

If young likes, let him play like this from now till eternity, only clubs like tottenham and liverpool will come for him, and if he is sought after by clubs like chelsea, Madrid or man city, then it's to become a squad player and that's fact that even a slowpoke like you know

man utd went after young - they are the biggest club in england. young has already graced the PFA team twice - he was once the best young player in the EPL. he has done well for himself with his limited skills. he's already 30, why would he be sought after at the age of 30? were you born brain dead?

Young is so good and he has never made top 20 in Europe.... coogar, I've always known you were foolish but this foolish? Jeez

you are a laboratory retärd!
top 20 my arsê. so di maria the top winger in the world got dumped by madrid & he's being kept out of the starting XI by ashley young? if he's a top winger then he has to be the unluckiest winger in the world. you are a cretinous troll.