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coogar:
age has caught up with RVP. there's a rumour he's going back to holland. rooney should be relegated to a squad player. he can never be the same excellent striker he was 10 years ago. we need top tier strikers that are in the same level as aguero, suarez, etc

My point exactly, i only wish PSG would buy Rooney instead of ADM lol.
I would like to see ADM play at least a 2nd season.
1) ADM,Depay,Mata and Young rotating the wings with a pacy,agile no 9 and not a hyena like RVP.

2) Fellaini, Herrera,Carrick, Blind, summer buy no1,summer buy no2 rotating midfield.

3) Another fake player that will be exposed next season is Rojo

SailorXY:
there's nothing solid about an attacking Valencia. he's the reason there's not much threat from spaces opened up on the right by virtue of the drifting inwards of Juan Mata.

Exactly. Still clueless as an overlapping fullback. The guy should be a Mai ruwa with his speed,PAWA and stamina.....he has no business on a football field

coogar:
age has caught up with RVP. there's a rumour he's going back to holland. rooney should be relegated to a squad player. he can never be the same excellent striker he was 10 years ago. we need top tier strikers that are in the same level as aguero, suarez, etc

SailorXY:
there's nothing solid about an attacking Valencia. he's the reason there's not much threat from spaces opened up on the right by virtue of the drifting inwards of Juan Mata.

Not every RB is Dani Alves. I think Tony tried this year sha. You don't be running up and attacking every time

Our Branislav now thinks he's a winger, and he's now the weaklink in our back line

afrodoc2:
My point exactly, i only wish PSG would buy Rooney instead of ADM lol.
I would like to see ADM play at least a 2nd season.
1) ADM,Depay,Mata and Young rotating the wings with a pacy,agile no 9 and not a hyena like RVP.

2) Fellaini, Herrera,Carrick, Blind, summer buy no1,summer buy no2 rotating midfield.

3) Another fake player that will be exposed next season is Rojo

he's done well for his first season. I'ld rather him than Blackett & Evans

afrodoc2:
My point exactly, i only wish PSG would buy Rooney instead of ADM lol.
I would like to see ADM play at least a 2nd season.
1) ADM,Depay,Mata and Young rotating the wings with a pacy,agile no 9 and not a hyena lie RVP.

2) Fellaini, Herrera, Carrick, Blind, summer buy no1,summer buy no2 rotating midfield.

3) Another fake player that will be exposed next season is Rojo

rojo is an LCB.
you cannot really judge his performance as LB. if shaw wasn't such an unfit entity, rojo shouldn't be playing LB for us at all.

Nihilist:
Not every RB is Dani Alves. I think Tony tried this year sha. You don't be running up and attacking every time
Our Branislav now thinks he's a winger, and he's now the weaklink in our back line

branislav is a CB.
he's just doing a job as RB & he should thank the outstanding defensive abilities of john terry & cahill that are covering his behind. if chelsea want to win bigger things next season, they need a RB themselves. his height is one of the reasons he gets into the team otherwise azpili should be the #1 right back for you guys. ivanovic is a defensive liability.

SailorXY:
he's done well for his first season. I'ld rather him than Blackett & Evans

He will be exposed next season, watch this space.
Blackett regressed after a good start, he is still young....there is HOPE for him.
Evans is a waste of space, an accident waiting to happen. He is our absolute worst player..........apart from Falcao.

He wasted all those years of education by Rio and Vidic, we should have kept Shawcross.

Januzaj should be loaned out, dat guy has great potential, but at de moment man-united is too big 4 him, i'll also like to keep valencia as an emergency right black, evans own tire me upon de years wey him don spend with vidic nd ferdinand him no learn anytin na only dia errors him learn, jones na good defender him just need to stay fit, i've got a feelimg he will be our john terry, and ehm dat angelo henriquez de improve, we need to loan him to any team in de top 5 european leagues, and dat is if we are not ready to bring him back to O.T. Wat of nani and chicha? Dem still get future 4 O.T? Mata nkor?

afrodoc2:
He will be exposed next season, watch this space.
Blackett regressed after a good start, he is still young....there is HOPE for him.
Evans is a waste of space, an accident waiting to happen. He is our absolute worst player..........apart from Falcao.

He wasted all those years of education by Rio and Vidic, we should have kept Shawcross.

ok why exactly are you sounding so sure he'll fail next season? reasons..

coogar:
rojo is an LCB.
you cannot really judge his performance as LB. if shaw wasn't such an unfit entity, rojo shouldn't be playing LB for us at all.

Not composed enough to play CB in the EPL with pacy and physical players. 80 PERCENT of his tackles are rash,last ditch near-foul tackles.
The law of averages will swing against him soon and those near-fouls will become fouls.

SailorXY:
ok why exactly are you sounding so sure he'll fail next season? reasons..

He lacks composure to be a very good CB.
If Jones was a little smaller and a little slower you would get Rojo.
He runs as if he is carrying a backpack of rocks.

weedtaker:
Januzaj should be loaned out, dat guy has great potential, but at de moment man-united is too big 4 him, i'll also like to keep valencia as an emergency right black, evans own tire me upon de years wey him don spend with vidic nd ferdinand him no learn anytin na only dia errors him learn, jones na good defender him just need to stay fit, i've got a feelimg he will be our john terry, and ehm dat angelo henriquez de improve, we need to loan him to any team in de top 5 european leagues, and dat is if we are not ready to bring him back to O.T. Wat of nani and chicha? Dem still get future 4 O.T? Mata nkor?

I'll like to see Nani back, not likely tho. he's got talents but has chicken heart unlike Ronaldo who had the belief of a prime Gorilla. that's a similarity Depay has with Ronaldo, & the reason I have high hopes for him.

Guy leave all dose yarnins, rojo is a good player, he'll be better next season, and dat otamendi fit flop o

weedtaker:
Guy leave all dose yarnins, rojo is a good player, he'll be better next season, and dat otamendi fit flop o

ok

Nihilist:
But Valencia has turned out to be one of the better rightbacks in the league this season....

Very solid in attack and defence.

Defence? Yes. Attack?? Not so much

afrodoc2:
He lacks composure to be a very good CB.
If Jones was a little smaller and a little slower you would get Rojo.
He runs as if he is carrying a backpack of rocks.

you never can tell, there's room for fine-tuning - he's still a young lad & it was sorely missed last season. those crunchy tackles of Keane or Vidic got Old Trafford rocking many a time & even his troops on the pitch.

that's why I'll like us to get Otamendi or Laporte - not Hummels.

afrodoc2:
Not composed enough to play CB in the EPL with pacy and physical players. 80 PERCENT of his tackles are rash,last ditch near-foul tackles.
The law of averages will swing against him soon and those near-fouls will become fouls.

rojo isn't bad at all!
he's decent - not the top CB we require but he can do a job. let's not forget we didn't have a top DM for most parts of the season too. for all daley blind's outstanding quality, he gets bullied off the ball so easily. blind can pass, he has got good vision & a world class football brain but his physical attributes are light weight.

van gaal's team would be suited to european games more than the PL.

weedtaker:
Januzaj should be loaned out, dat guy has great potential, but at de moment man-united is too big 4 him, i'll also like to keep valencia as an emergency right black, evans own tire me upon de years wey him don spend with vidic nd ferdinand him no learn anytin na only dia errors him learn, jones na good defender him just need to stay fit, i've got a feelimg he will be our john terry, and ehm dat angelo henriquez de improve, we need to loan him to any team in de top 5 european leagues, and dat is if we are not ready to bring him back to O.T. Wat of nani and chicha? Dem still get future 4 O.T? Mata nkor?

smalling is the supreme leader in that defence. evans would get sold & jones needs one more season to prove himself worthy.

i wouldn't mind having nani back though. mata has played himself back into the first team. chicharito must also come back abeg!

SailorXY:
you never can tell, there's room for fine-tuning - he's still a young lad & it was sorely missed last season. those crunchy tackles of Keane or Vidic got Old Trafford rocking many a time & even his troops on the pitch.

that's why I'll like us to get Otamendi or Laporte - not Hummels.

I hope i am wrong, there is no joy in being right if he remains a United player ( as he most likely will).

Funny thing is he is the type that a 3 man defence favours.
He is not big or composed enough to be a good CB in a 2 man partnership, and he is not quick or creative enough to be a pure LB.

coogar:
rojo isn't bad at all!
he's decent - not the top CB we require but he can do a job. let's not forget we didn't have a top DM for most parts of the season too. for all daley blind's outstanding quality, he gets bullied off the ball so easily. blind can pass, he has got good vision & a world class football brain but his physical attributes are light weight.

van gaal's team would be suited to european games more than the PL.



smalling is the supreme leader in that defence. evans would get sold & jones needs one more season to prove himself worthy.

i wouldn't mind having nani back though. mata has played himself back into the first team. chicharito must also come back abeg!

Send Wilson on loan, send Falcao back to Monaco, sell RVP.
Since realistically we can't sell Rooney we can keep Rooney,recall 1 of Henriquez / Chicharito, and 1 star striker acquisition.

Nihilist:
But Valencia has turned out to be one of the better rightbacks in the league this season....

Very solid in attack and defence.

This is an objective assessemnt from a neutral point. I have seen many people who said Valencia is the most important player for Manchester United this season. Some of are United fans, some Arsenal fans and some United fans.

As for me, Val is the unsong hero.Valencia was pivotal to Gaal's possession football this season. Every time United held the ball shakily, there was almost immediate calm the moment the ball got to Valencia.

As for all the talk that Rafael would have been more creative, I always ask, what is Rafael's average Assists per season since he joined Manchester United, even playing in Ferguson's champion teams. Rafael has been a weak link whenever we faced big teams with creative players like Hazard, Silva, Sterling, etc. He can be good against straight running pacing wingers, but poor against creative players. He was one of those who let us down against Leicester earlier this season.

elampiro:
As for all the talk that Rafael would have been more creative, I always ask, what is Rafael's average Assists per season since he joined Manchester United, even playing in Ferguson's champion teams. Rafael has been a weak link whenever we faced big teams with creative players like Hazard, Silva, Sterling, etc. He can be good against straight running pacing wingers, but poor against creative players. He was one of those who let us down against Leicester earlier this season.

Rafael is hardly fit enough to play half a season, but he's a better RB.

you don start all these your assumption - what games did Rafael play poorly against Hazard, Silva or Sterling
how did Rafael let us down against Leicester? Nigga was barged out of the way by a baboon & ref became blind bartemeous

talking about let downs - how about the wonderful through ball that knocked us out of FA Cup?

SailorXY:
Rafael is hardly fit enough to play half a season, but he's a better RB.

you don start all these your assumption - what games did Rafael play poorly against Hazard, Silva or Sterling
how did Rafael let us down against Leicester? Nigga was barged out of the way by a baboon & ref became blind bartemeous

talking about let downs - how about the wonderful through ball that knocked us out of FA Cup?

rafael is 500% better than valencia
there's no debating about that. i can name 10 different games valencia screwed up in the defence and lost those games. if valencia had reacted quickly & matched hazard's run @ stamford bridge, we wouldn't have conceded. the mumu valencia suddenly stopped tracking back, he was expecting de gea to do his magic.

weedtaker:
With the above explanation elampiro gave us about di maria operating as a left handed central midfielder in a midfield 3 (though i'm convinced he operated as an AMF), that means the arrival of depay won't be a problem for him, his link up plays with depay will even be superb, i just pray he picks his best form and become consistent, his battle is with fellaini, juan mata nd d rest.. The problem now, na our abino captain.

Skills don't leave a player over night. Di Maria is still playing well for Argentina and can still win games single handedly. The problem has to be with the philosophy he finds himself, coupled with the players around him, the nervousness in the team and the over expectation from him. Despite all these hurdles, he is by far the most creative and productive player in the team.

You mentioned left handed central midfield. I think that his best position. That was were it's being reported he did his best job in Benfica, he also did his best job for Madrid in that position, and he did his best job this season for Man United in that left side of our diamond midfield. The need to play Van Persie, Falcao and Rooney at same time meant one defender was sacrificed for more forward players- one number 10, two strikers.

Di Maria was the principal victim of such a decision to play all big players. He had more work to do in the massive ground left in midfield because of the one man less at the back. He did his part by creating chances which were squandered principally by RVP and Falcao during the period we played the diamond, although some of the chances resulted in Assists while he himself took the bull by the horn and score a few.

The problem however, was that due to the missed chances, we couldn't kill games early enough, our opponents recovered back into the game when Di Maria got tired from the 60th minute. Gaal needed to address this and at same time play all his big players when they were fit. This meant instead of playing the Diamond with a back four, Gaal went for another formation that will accommodate everyone. Di Maria, our best performer that period was taken off his comfort zone.

With the acquisition of De Pay, Gaal's United next season will play more direct and aggressive like the Holland team of 2014 world cup if we have Di Maria and De Pay starting our games. More like SAF counter attacking football of 2007/8 seson instead of the tiki taka we are currently trying to play. If we are however, going to continue this tikitaka, I am afraid it will never fit Di Maria, just as Madrid style this season wouldnt have favoured him. Di Maria has never been one to get high good pass accuracy, he likes to have the space to use the ball, to run with it, burst forward and hit it for another team mate running. This was why he find Ronaldo, Bale, Marcelo easy to play with. Hit the ball in their front and they will catch it. When they beat Bayern, it was purely from counter started by Modric to Di Maria to forwards, before you know it, Di Maria who started it all is on hand to score again or provide the last pass.


Such a long one. But I needed to explain it.

SailorXY:
Rafael is hardly fit enough to play half a season, but he's a better RB.

you don start all these your assumption - what games did Rafael play poorly against Hazard, Silva or Sterling
how did Rafael let us down against Leicester? Nigga was barged out of the way by a baboon & ref became blind bartemeous

There is nothing like assumptions. I have noticed all these even before I joined this thread. In Ferguson'slast season, Rafael and Evra regressed so much in their defensive duties but they were still good going forward. Against City last season, Siva and Nasri ate Rafael for dinner.

SailorXY:
talking about let downs - how about the wonderful through ball that knocked us out of FA Cup?

Mistakes are bound to happen. Rafael has had mistakes in the past, even against Bayern Munich when he was sent off.

However, his overall defensive play is in suspect. He is now shaking. He is easily shaken off the road.

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nihilist, do you not think rafael would have certainly intercepted hazard because he reads the game much better?

look at valencia & see how he gave up like a bïtch.

coogar:
rafael is 500% better than valencia
there's no debating about that. i can name 10 different games valencia screwed up in the defence and lost those games. if valencia had reacted quickly & matched hazard's run @ stamford bridge, we wouldn't have conceded. the mumu valencia suddenly stopped tracking back, he was expecting de gea to do his magic.

That was Herrera's ball to track. Herrera was the only one who could have tracked it.

According to you, Valencia lost us 10 matches. How many matches did Manchester United lost all season? Ukwu!!!

If Valencia lost us so many games as you said, how come Van Gaal kept Raphael on the bench for him? What I saw was Valencia saving us in games, making last man tackle off his position against Aguero, etc.

When I first came here Coogar was trying a little to be an analyst. Now Coolieguy Tortoise would pass more as a fictionist. Also very slippery such that you hold his hand, he says it's leg. When you hold his leg, he says it's head, then tongue.


When we lost to Sawsea and Leicester earlier in the season, Valencia wss not there. When we lost to Swansea again, Valencia did not start the match.

elampiro:
That was Herrera's ball to track. Herrera was the only one who could have tracked it.

According to you, Valencia lost us 10 matches. How many matches did Manchester United lost all season? Ukwu!!!

If Valencia lost us so many games as you said, how come Van Gaal kept Raphael on the bench for him? What I saw was Valencia saving us in games, making last man tackle off his position against Aguero, etc.

how come young kept di maria on the bench even when it's obvious young is the inferior player? it's all about the style & the players who would adapt to it.

rafael is an all-action type. he carries the attacking threat on the right hand side & fergie lets him take those risks. fergie's teams could care less about possession. it's attack attack attack!

valencia is more disciplined but part of that is because he is extremely limited. he carries no threat, he's painfully one-footed and he has no common sense at all to apply what is required in certain situations. under moyes, valencia lost close to 15 games due to his ball-watching.

elampiro:
When I first came here Coogar was trying a little to be an analyst. Now Coolieguy Tortoise would pass more as a fictionist. Also very slippery such that you hold his hand, he says it's leg. When you hold his leg, he says it's head, then tongue.


When we lost to Sawsea and Leicester earlier in the season, Valencia wss not there. When we lost to Swansea again, Valencia did not start the match.

what about the loss to chelsea, everton & west brom? valencia wasn't there too? what about his disgraceful back pass to de gea in the FA cup? what about when we lost to southampton & man city?

elampiro: That was Herrera's ball to track. Herrera was the only one who could have tracked it.

herrera was never in control to start with & we all know hazard would win that particular rat race every day of the week.

valencia was ahead when the play developed & he's the fastest player in europe. with a bit more common sense & the ability to sense danger, he would have reacted quickly to block hazard's path. he pretended he was going to run & then stopped at the edge of the box.

this is all you need to know between valencia & rafael in the defence. rafael anticipates & reads the game better - this is why rafsel makes more clearances, intercepts more & blocks more shots. he's a natural defender. valencia is just hanging on to save his career.

coogar:
how come young kept di maria on the bench even when it's obvious young is the inferior player? it's all about the style & the players who would adapt to it.

rafael is an all-action type. he carries the attacking threat on the right hand side & fergie lets him take those risks. fergie's teams could care less about possession. it's attack attack attack!

valencia is more disciplined but part of that is because he is extremely limited. he carries no threat, he's painfully one-footed and he has no common sense at all to apply what is required in certain situations.

Valencia will still keep Rafael on the bench next season. Forget all these your stories. You can deceive others not me. All Rafael's 'sense', how many Assists does he have in his career?

coogar:
under moyes, valencia lost close to 15 games due to his ball-watching.



what about the loss to chelsea, everton & west brom? valencia wasn't there too? what about his disgraceful back pass to de gea in the FA cup? what about when we lost to southampton & man city?

Now, it's under Moyes. lol How many games did Valencia play as a right back under Moyes? I doubt if he played up to 5 games because Rafael, Smalling, Jones all play right back.

Chelsea game= blame Herrera's poor pace for Hazard's goal because he read the situation more than anyone. According one one article, that was a reason for United to get a DM like Macherano because even Carrcik wouldnt have stopped it. The report said Busquet had the athleticism to stop such.

Everton= McNair has major fault.
West Bom McNair. RVP missed a penalty.
Southampton= Carrick lost the ball, Herrera outsmarted by Wanyama, and Blackett failed to react fast.



You see how you have become a fictionists?

coogar:
herrera was never in control to start with & we all know hazard would win that particular rat race every day of the week.

valencia was ahead when the play developed & he's the fastest player in europe. with a bit more common sense & the ability to sense danger, he would have reacted quickly to block hazard's path. he pretended he was going to run & then stopped at the edge of the box.

this is all you need to know between valencia & rafael in the defence. rafael anticipates & reads the game better - this is why rafsel makes more clearances, intercepts more & blocks more shots. he's a natural defender. valencia is just hanging on to save his career.

Hahahaha. You are more than this.

Did Raphael play in 3 man defence?
Did Rafael play wing back in successive matches?
What about tackles, and othr dozens of defensive stats.

Abeg carry this dirty comot or my face. You will soon go and fetch gifs.

elampiro:
Valencia will still keep Rafael on the bench next season. Forget all these your stories. You can deceive others not me. All Rafael's 'sense', how many Assists does he have in his career?

once we buy clyne, valencia would warm the bench. there's no way valencia would start as a RB for us next season.....and he's not even good enough to displace mata in the team. tell your idol to start packing his bags.

Now, it's under Moyes. lol How many games did Valencia play as a right back under Moyes? I doubt if he played up to 5 games because Rafael, Smalling, Jones all play right back.

that's easy now.
i can name 7 league games in my head that valencia started as a RB last season. even in the games where he was RM, he was the culprit to the goals we conceded. he allowed oviedo to get a win for everton last season due to his ball watching.


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valencia looked like a tourist in the box.

Chelsea game= blame Herrera's poor pace for Hazard's goal because he read the situation more than anyone. According one one article, that was a reason for United to get a DM like Macherano because even Carrcik wouldnt have stopped it. The report said Busquet had the athleticism to stop such.

nothing to do with herrera.
if valencia was in position, hazard wouldn't have scored. it's unthinkable to believe midfielders won't lose a battle....this is why we have defenders. hazard ran close to 30 yards before slotting the ball in. where was valencia that was supposed to be marking that zone?

Everton= McNair has major fault.
West Bom McNair. RVP missed a penalty.
Southampton= Carrick lost the ball, Herrera outsmarted by Wanyama, and Blackett failed to react fast.

abeggi....
so rafael was the reason we conceded 5 goals against leicester? it wasn't rooney assisting the opponents or blackett brainfarting or mata slipping? you dunno your football.

First it was Young vs Di Maria. Then Young (winger) vs Young(CAM). Then it was small arguement about Rooney. Now its Rafael vs Valencia. Next Fellaini vs RVP

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