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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by thorpido(m): 1:18pm On May 30, 2015
kandiikane:


I believe you confused yourself, it was quite straight forward.

I'm not speaking of what she said here.I'm talking generally of some of the things she says
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She is right, you do not have to cook because you are a woman, you cook because you are human, you guys are hungry and need to eat. If you don't feel like cooking and the guy is at home, he can do the cooking because he is equally human, hungry and needs to eat. What exactly is ridiculous here?
You cook because you are hungry and I already said the cooking could be done by the man sometimes.Having a timetable for who should cook or not would be ridiculous to me.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by ireneidiva(f): 1:23pm On May 30, 2015
tintingz:
This her statement is full of hypocrisy.
How?

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by kandiikane(m): 1:24pm On May 30, 2015
thorpido:
You cook because you are hungry and I already said the cooking could be done by the man sometimes.Having a timetable for who should cook or not would be ridiculous to me.

Who talked about timetable, are they children? You are saying the same thing she said. Like I said earlier you have confused yourself. It could be done by a man at anytime because he is human and he needs to eat so can a woman.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Nobody: 1:30pm On May 30, 2015
Excellent speech.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Nobody: 1:31pm On May 30, 2015
kandiikane:


She is right, you do not have to cook because you are a woman, you cook because you are human, you guys are hungry and need to eat. If you don't feel like cooking and the guy is at home, he can do the cooking because he is equally human, hungry and needs to eat. What exactly is ridiculous here?

Well said, Kandiikane.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by thorpido(m): 1:32pm On May 30, 2015
kandiikane:


Who talked about timetable, are they children? You are saying the same thing she said. Like I said earlier you have confused yourself. It could be done by a man at anytime because he is human and he needs to eat so can a woman.
I'm only using a timetable as a reference.There is nothing confusing here.
There are roles a man takes up in the home and there are some the women take up too.However,those roles are flexible and can be taken up by anyone at anytime.What I'm trying to point out is that you can't say just because you are a woman you wouldn't do certain things just so you don't fit into the perceived roles of a woman.I only used the cooking part as an example.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by smileysmiles(f): 1:34pm On May 30, 2015
thorpido:
Isn't it what the women portray?They say the men don't give them a chance and that they should be given the opportunity.Some of the women in these position are there just because they are women,not because they got the votes.

"They say" men dont or "Men dont" give them the chance?
In all honesty do you think if buhari was a woman with all his experience and good qualities and al that APC would have made him their presidential candidate?

Can you homestly say nigeria is in a state where Men will vote women as presidents ( evenwhen they are fully qualified)? If your answr is NO.. it raises the question ; why??

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by thorpido(m): 1:47pm On May 30, 2015
smileysmiles:


"They say" men dont or "Men dont" give them the chance?
In all honesty do you think if buhari was a woman with all his experience and good qualities and al that APC would have made him their presidential candidate?

Can you homestly say nigeria is in a state where Men will vote women as presidents ( evenwhen they are fully qualified)? If your answr is NO.. it raises the question ; why??


it depends on what you mean by qualification.You need to know that in politics,it's not about degrees for instance.There was a female presidential candidate in the last elections and from the votes she got,it's obvious even the women didn't vote for her.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Stillfire: 1:51pm On May 30, 2015
The political social and religious structures of the world have belittled the feminine gender into being seen as nothing but second to the male gender.

And we need to add that women themselves are enablers of such attitudes.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Stillfire: 1:56pm On May 30, 2015
And in media interviews make sure fathers are asked how they balance family and work. In this age of ‘parenting as guilt,’ please spread the guilt equally. Make fathers feel as bad as mothers. Make fathers share in the glory of guilt.
Campaign and agitate for paid paternity leave everywhere in America.

I said it. Men should be invested in the home front as women. Tehehehe grin grin grin kiss

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Stillfire: 2:02pm On May 30, 2015
Okay, one last thing about my mother. My mother and I do not agree on many things regarding gender. There are certain things my mother believes a person should do, for the simple reason that said person ‘is a woman.’ Such as nod occasionally and smile even when smiling is the last thing one wants to do. Such as strategically give in to certain arguments, especially when arguing with a non-female. Such as get married and have children. I can think of fairly good reasons for doing any of these. But ‘because you are a woman’ is not one of them. And so, Class of 2015, never ever accept ‘Because You Are A Woman’ as a reason for doing anything.

Let me add that, men are finding it very, very hard to adapt to the changing idea of womanhood...a woman that does not use nuances/passive aggression/pretense (you know the whole characteristics we have of being the 'virtuous woman') to speak her mind, but would tell it as it is. The male gender is attracted to a weak, suppressed, subdued, naive and vulnerable woman. This trait of being attracted to that type of woman is more pronounced in some cultures more than the others. These are all learned and conditioned behaviors, and how your environment and upbringing shapes you to view women. Well all I have to say is that, those who fail to adapt to a changing environment would eventually go extinct. Lol, the confusion also here is that we have empowered the girls, nobody taught the men how to adapt to the empowered woman. grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Jahblessme: 2:06pm On May 30, 2015
Chimamanda my heroine!!
Excellent speech, saving as a prototype for my children,they are still too little to understand.

Excellent points @kandiikane and stillfire!

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by 5minsmadness: 2:14pm On May 30, 2015
smileysmiles:


"They say" men dont or "Men dont" give them the chance?
In all honesty do you think if buhari was a woman with all his experience and good qualities and al that APC would have made him their presidential candidate?

Can you homestly say nigeria is in a state where Men will vote women as presidents ( evenwhen they are fully qualified)? If your answr is NO.. it raises the question ; why??


Because women menstruate.
Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Stillfire: 2:22pm On May 30, 2015
Now being an empowered woman is not analogous to being unable to adapt to polite society. cool Ghetto, razz and crass women who want to hide under the cloak of feminism take note! cool Bad manners are just bad manners as a result of your bad upbringing. kiss

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by smileysmiles(f): 2:22pm On May 30, 2015
thorpido:
it depends on what you mean by qualification.You need to know that in politics,it's not about degrees for instance.There was a female presidential candidate in the last elections and from the votes she got,it's obvious even the women didn't vote for her.

Lemme rephrase if buhari was a woma under APC and a preaidential candidate.... would he get the same number of votes he got?
Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Nobody: 2:23pm On May 30, 2015
smileysmiles:


"They say" men dont or "Men dont" give them the chance?
In all honesty do you think if buhari was a woman with all his experience and good qualities and al that APC would have made him their presidential candidate?

Can you homestly say nigeria is in a state where Men will vote women as presidents ( evenwhen they are fully qualified)? If your answr is NO.. it raises the question ; why??


Reason why "Hilary Clinton" lost to Obama, assuming she was a white man, Obama wouldn't have stood a chance.

I pray she win next election.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by smileysmiles(f): 2:23pm On May 30, 2015
5minsmadness:

Because women menstruate.

Dats what i thought smiley
Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by smileysmiles(f): 2:25pm On May 30, 2015
FrancisTony:

Reason why "Hilary Clinton" lost to Obama, assuming she was a white man, Obama wouldn't have stood a chance.

I pray she win next election.

Fingers crossed
Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Nobody: 2:26pm On May 30, 2015
Stillfire:


I said it. Men should be invested in the home front as women. Tehehehe grin grin grin kiss
Men need paternity leave. grin

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Nobody: 2:35pm On May 30, 2015
The reason why Chimamanda is so important to me is because of what she represents in today's society. She is the first outspoken feminist ever in Nigeria. She has brought awareness home and to the younger generation. Many people who can relate to her on a cultural level, will seize to perceive feminism as a white thing but as a fight all women share around the world.

Most importantly, her decision to not use the redundant "Mrs" title and to keep her maiden name is so powerful to me. We need to have important models who look just like your average Nigerian girl that young girls in Nigeria can point to and say, "Look at Chimamanda, she was able to do it." It's harder to follow through or stand your ground with uncommon decisions like this, when you don't know anyone who has done it successfully before you.

Lupita's dream as a Hollywood actress was made possible because in her earlier years, she saw women who look like her act in Hollywood. It is important that we have women who are African, speak up for women's movement. It sends the message that it is okay to be feminist and African.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Nobody: 2:39pm On May 30, 2015
Really a great speech... Never do anything because you're a woman, do it because you want to. ..

Except the natural roles though. . Like giving birth, breastfeeding et al...

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by missterious(f): 2:45pm On May 30, 2015
JoeCutie:
You wanna join them feminists? Rich feminist!

Babe, feminists have the greatest s*x. They demand for o.rg.asms. grin

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by thorpido(m): 2:48pm On May 30, 2015
smileysmiles:


Lemme rephrase if buhari was a woma under APC and a preaidential candidate.... would he get the same number of votes he got?
He probably wouldn't and that's partly because majority of the women who voted for him will not vote for him.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by bukatyne(f): 2:54pm On May 30, 2015
thorpido:
I agree with her words here.I don't agree with every statement of hers though.

Isn't it contradictory that women shouldn't do some things because they are women,yet they want political offices in Nigeria because they are women and should be given the opportunity.
As per doing some things because you are a woman,well who should stay with a breas.tfeeding baby?The woman because she is a woman or the man?
I believe man and woman are equal,they are just not the SAME.Like some silly girls (and men) started the free the nip.ple campaign.

Ladies should be taught to aspire towards their best and deserve all that men can get too.

Breastfeeding is natural to woman same as pregnancy tongue

@bold: I also do not subscribe to quota system. Giving a woman a position because she is a woman means she is not deserving of that position in the first place.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by bukatyne(f): 2:59pm On May 30, 2015
MarvellousGod:
Really a great speech... Never do anything because you're a woman, do it because you want to. ..

Except the natural roles though. . Like giving birth, breastfeeding et al...

If only we could switch the pregnancy part

Hehehehe
Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by bukatyne(f): 3:00pm On May 30, 2015
Stillfire:
Now being an empowered woman is not analogous to being unable to adapt to polite society. cool Ghetto, razz and crass women who want to hide under the cloak of feminism take note! cool Bad manners are just bad manners as a result of your bad upbringing. kiss

Words on marble kiss

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by Ngokafor(f): 3:04pm On May 30, 2015
...Well said Chimamanda..

..Waiting for the Nairaland Mourning crew to do what they know how to do best..

..Wail and cry about 'Feminism' like it can stop Chimamanda from doing her thing. cheesy

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by missterious(f): 3:13pm On May 30, 2015
thorpido:
I'm for equality and i support the movement that empowers women, protects them and ensures they have a voice in the society.

What I just disagree with is the movement that wants a woman to do whatever a man does.An example is the free the nip.ple movement that some are promoting.Just because some men do not wear a shirt in public(not that it is right), a woman also should do the same.
Another example;in the home,if it's time for dinner and food is to be cooked,should there be a need to throw a dice to pick who should do the cooking?I'm not saying it has to always be the woman who should do the cooking or that she should even cook if she is not in a good position to do so but to say because she's a woman she shouldn't have to do it will be ridiculous to me.

Why are people so scared of the female nipp.le? grin It's no different from that of the male.

Some men enjoy cooking & even cook better than their wives. It's all about doing what you're best suited for.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by okotv(m): 3:22pm On May 30, 2015
Some civilian talk there. Its easier in those fields. The day women will start thinking of equality in my field then I would take them serious.

Women sha...

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by thorpido(m): 3:33pm On May 30, 2015
bukatyne:


Breastfeeding is natural to woman same as pregnancy tongue

@bold: I also do not subscribe to quota system. Giving a woman a position because she is a woman means she is not deserving of that position in the first place.
I'm not just talking about the breas.tfeeding part,I'm also talking about the nursing part.
Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by thorpido(m): 3:40pm On May 30, 2015
missterious:


Why are people so scared of the female nipp.le? grin It's no different from that of the male.

Some men enjoy cooking & even cook better than their wives. It's all about doing what you're best suited for.
Can you come around so we compare yours and mine(na joke o)?

Some men enjoy cooking and do it often or as occasion permits.However,you naturally won't find a man who daily and routinely feeds his family.That is what I'm taking about.

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Re: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by kandiikane(m): 3:41pm On May 30, 2015
thorpido:
I'm only using a timetable as a reference.There is nothing confusing here.
There are roles a man takes up in the home and there are some the women take up too.However,those roles are flexible and can be taken up by anyone at anytime.What I'm trying to point out is that you can't say just because you are a woman you wouldn't do certain things just so you don't fit into the perceived roles of a woman.I only used the cooking part as an example.

Yes I can say I should not cook because I am a woman. unless it is naturally in you like child birth and even that you can choose not to give birth. Any woman has the right to not want to be part of the societal structures put in place. We need to break this gender norms as cooking or cleaning is not gender specific anyone can do it. Same way, you have the right to not pay for a woman's meal just because you are a man or a man trying to impress, you do it because you are generally that kind of human and would do it regardless of who it is. I have a right to choose not to be allocated to something just because I am a woman.

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