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plaetton:
Funny, sad, but true.
And this encapsulates the problem.

Jesus is the problem.
The Nigerian people are still being held hostage in The Slaveship Jesus , which is ironically, the name of the First merchant ship that carried the first batch of West African slaves across the atlantic.

Foreign Religions and all their associated bullshytes occupy a greatly disproportionate space in the African mind.
This is undeniable, and vastly responsible for the low intellectual girth of this generation.

lol you had to blame it on Jesus and religion. Jesus and the religion is the cause of everything wrong with Nigeria and by large, Africa.

An0nimus:
lol you had to blame it on Jesus and religion. Jesus and the religion is the cause of everything wrong with Nigeria and by large, Africa.

Yes.
And it's not a loling situation.

Would you like me to elucidate more on this issue?

plaetton:
Funny, sad, but true.
And this encapsulates the problem.

Jesus is the problem.
The Nigerian people are still being held hostage in The Slaveship Jesus , which is ironically, the name of the First merchant ship that carried the first batch of West African slaves across the atlantic.

Foreign Religions and all their associated bullshytes occupy a greatly disproportionate space in the African mind.
This is undeniable, and vastly responsible for the low intellectual girth of this generation.

I think it's more of a by-product than a cause

SAMBARRY:
Nigerian students in full display

Ha an. But the student expanded it now

if na so you expand am you go still dey write waec na

cococandy:


Ha an. But the student expanded it now

Onegai:
If i may also add, Nigerians are lazy. They truly don't want to know. Truly. They also have Responsibility. It is so much easier to blame someone else and they would rather take that route (that is why they are lazy). They equate working strenuously with doing the job right or the easiest way out as being "smart". Never wanting to take personal responsibility means turning God and religion into an insurance policy.

Which is why if you ask a lot of pregnant women in Nigeria, the number 1 book amongst them is something titled "Supernatural Birth", rather than links on the NHS website. Which is why you will see someone collapse on the road, people will gather and be praying furiously whilst someone pours cold water and no-one will think of leaning the person's head back, opening the mouth and breathing air into it (I know everyone has gone "n yama!!" wait till you need first aid... ). Which is why one of your neighbours will refuse to pay his share of a street guard's salary, telling you N5,000 is too much, then drives off in his car. Or someone will collect a bribe from you (or "gift" whilst insulting government. Sigh.

We all don't have to be intellectuals, just apply critical reasoning to a problem and think of the greater good. But I don't see that happening in Nigeria ever so...

Sadly true that we may not get to eldorado anytime soon when one considers how many hail, as excellent, a governor who scored 14% (2,000/14,000) in the vital area of providing public schools so ALL our children receive basic education that promotes CRITICAL reasoning for the greater good, it is very clear that we are yet to even start our journey!



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Having had my secondary education in Nigeria and the rest abroad, the problem lies with the students as much as it does with the teachers and parents.

When I was in secondary school in Nigeria, we were basically encouraged to "cram" in order to pass. There was no real studying done. There were no student-teacher engagements. I mean.. how could there be.. when every student saw his/her teacher as a mini god. Coming over here and seeing how education is done, it's not hard to understand why kids of the western world are seemingly more intelligent and intellectually sound.

Go into classrooms and you see students having intelligent conversations with their teachers. Engaging in respectful arguments which eventually bring up points that prompt further research, thereby adding to what they already know. This teacher-student relationship strengthens the bond between both parties involved. Students are not afraid to ask questions for fear that they would get reprimanded for doing so. They are also confident in the answers that they will receive.
Education is made to be enjoyable.. and people actually look forward to learning. As far as I know.. this is lacking in most of our secondary institutions back home.

Take it outside of educational institution and bring it home. Allow me to opine that parents these days do not do enough to see that their children are getting the best in terms of learning. Growing up.. say around age 5 - 10, my mum would see to it that I completed my assignments, help me right my wrongs etc. She went out of her way and bought me books to read. After reading, we would go over the books together to reinforce what I had learned. As I grew older, this gradually changed. She slowly withdrew her involvement in my education. I won't say I blame her.. she had other responsibilities she had to take care of and this took away from the time she would have had to spend with me. It's a tough world for the Nigerian parent today, but why not give priority to what priority is due? Youths these days are allowed to their education into their hands too early. When they sense that they have no one to answer to, and know that they only have to do little to get by.. that little is all they do.

Let's ditch the blame game for a while and focus on the students themselves. As much as the teachers and parents have a responsibility to ensure the intellectual soundness of these kids, the kids have the greatest responsibility. Nigerian students these days no longer want to read. They now believe in cheating (Expo) and similarly, at the university level, blocking. As soon as there's a shortcut available.. that's where you'll find them. Actually.. let me hold my horses for a bit and look at this from a different standpoint. Do you really blame them? They've been conditioned to believe that their environment only rewards those who engage in such practices and punishes those who actually take their time to study. When lecturers are failing those who labored hard to earn a grade and rewarding those who "blocked", why would a student engage in the former?

I could write on and on. The truth is that the downfall of the Nigerian educational system is influenced by so many factors. The rot is at the core. If the core is not fixed, I'm afraid we would continue to experience a steady decline.

SAMBARRY:
Nigerian students in full display

LOL!

plaetton:
Funny, sad, but true.
And this encapsulates the problem.

Jesus is the problem.
The Nigerian people are still being held hostage in The Slaveship Jesus , which is ironically, the name of the First merchant ship that carried the first batch of West African slaves across the atlantic.

Foreign Religions and all their associated bullshytes occupy a greatly disproportionate space in the African mind.
This is undeniable, and vastly responsible for the low intellectual girth of this generation.

Why do people always either blame Jesus or the devil.
So the problem has nothing to do with low quality education/schools?

buggaboo:
Why do people always either blame Jesus or the devil.
So the problem has nothing to do with low quality education/schools?

The quality of education is poor because we spend more time learning and regurgitating middle east myths than in practical science and mathematics.
Students spend more time in churches and mosques than in libraries.

How many religious denominations did you have in your university campus?,. And what exactly was their business there?

plaetton:
The quality of education is poor because we spend more time learning and regurgitating middle east myths than in practical science and mathematics.
Students spend more time in churches and mosques than in libraries.

How many religious denominations did you have in your university campus?,. And what exactly was their business there?

The number doesn't even bother me, but the accompanying noise. All those sects have chosen a particular day to "terrorise" the school, thereby disrupting a conducive environment for learning. This happens day in, day out. And guess what? Our then so called lecturers were their leaders.

KissesandWine:
Having had my secondary education in Nigeria and the rest abroad, the problem lies with the students as much as it does with the teachers and parents.

When I was in secondary school in Nigeria, we were basically encouraged to "cram" in order to pass. There was no real studying done. There were no student-teacher engagements. I mean.. how could there be.. when every student saw his/her teacher as a mini god. Coming over here and seeing how education is done, it's not hard to understand why kids of the western world are seemingly more intelligent and intellectually sound.

Go into classrooms and you see students having intelligent conversations with their teachers. Engaging in respectful arguments which eventually bring up points that prompt further research, thereby adding to what they already know. This teacher-student relationship strengthens the bond between both parties involved. Students are not afraid to ask questions for fear that they would get reprimanded for doing so. They are also confident in the answers that they will receive.
Education is made to be enjoyable.. and people actually look forward to learning. As far as I know.. this is lacking in most of our secondary institutions back home.

Take it outside of educational institution and bring it home. Allow me to opine that parents these days do not do enough to see that their children are getting the best in terms of learning. Growing up.. say around age 5 - 10, my mum would see to it that I completed my assignments, help me right my wrongs etc. She went out of her way and bought me books to read. After reading, we would go over the books together to reinforce what I had learned. As I grew older, this gradually changed. She slowly withdrew her involvement in my education. I won't say I blame her.. she had other responsibilities she had to take care of and this took away from the time she would have had to spend with me. It's a tough world for the Nigerian parent today, but why not give priority to what priority is due? Youths these days are allowed to their education into their hands too early. When they sense that they have no one to answer to, and know that they only have to do little to get by.. that little is all they do.

Let's ditch the blame game for a while and focus on the students themselves. As much as the teachers and parents have a responsibility to ensure the intellectual soundness of these kids, the kids have the greatest responsibility. Nigerian students these days no longer want to read. They now believe in cheating (Expo) and similarly, at the university level, blocking. As soon as there's a shortcut available.. that's where you'll find them. Actually.. let me hold my horses for a bit and look at this from a different standpoint. Do you really blame them? They've been conditioned to believe that their environment only rewards those who engage in such practices and punishes those who actually take their time to study. When lecturers are failing those who labored hard to earn a grade and rewarding those who "blocked", why would a student engage in the former?

I could write on and on. The truth is that the downfall of the Nigerian educational system is influenced by so many factors. The rot is at the core. If the core is not fixed, I'm afraid we would continue to experience a steady decline.

U really didn't spend d better parts of ur life in dis country. U opined dat d deplorable state of our educational system is caused by so many factors, without naming one factor....

When last did u visit dis country?

plaetton:
The quality of education is poor because we spend more time learning and regurgitating middle east myths than in practical science and mathematics.
Students spend more time in churches and mosques than in libraries.

How many religious denominations did you have in your university campus?,. And what exactly was their business there?

Exactly!! -----> sad!

buggaboo:
LOL!

them plenty o. Another one

Greatest nigerian students
articulate nigerian students


answer na


your hand work

Deeper life
mountain of fire
winners chapel
cac
Methodist Church
Catholic church
celestial church
Anglican church etc


their business there
to help students get closer to God and supporting them with prayers so that they will pass their exams


Mosque too dey o . uncountable number sef

plaetton:
The quality of education is poor because we spend more time learning and regurgitating middle east myths than in practical science and mathematics.
Students spend more time in churches and mosques than in libraries.

How many religious denominations did you have in your university campus?,. And what exactly was their business there?

SAMBARRY:
Greatest nigerian students
articulate nigerian students


answer na


your hand work

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SAMBARRY:
Deeper life
mountain of fire
winners chapel
cac
Methodist Church
Catholic church
celestial church
Anglican church etc


their business there
to help students get closer to God and supporting them with prayers so that they will pass their exams


Mosque too dey o . uncountable number sef

Funny, sad, but bingo!, there you go.
Why do black people need to get closer to god more than any other race?
Why do black people always need god to support them with bailouts in passing exams?
What happened to learning and knowing what t was learnt, practicing what was learnt ?

This dovetails with issue being discussed on this thread. Pls visit this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/2355917/africa-foreign-religions-cultural-genocide

Why are we socially engineered to feel inferior, to feel that we cannot discern and deal with reality on own, to perpetually be beholden to and reliant upon wishy washy mythical worldviews for which t even the originators have long since abandoned?

A lady of African descent once approached me on a subway train full of people to preach to me. I was so infuriated, but I kept my Cool. After she finished her blah blah blah, I gently asked her to look around the train, and tell me why she thinks that the black man in the train was the only one who needed god and the godspell, more than all Caucasians and other races in the train. I asked her why she did not approach the white people in the train to preach to them. I asked her whether she thinks that a black man is an inferior creature who is lost and needs spiritual bailouts more than the rest. I told her that she was condescending and insulting me by preaching to me the crap that she dared not preach to the white people on the same train.
Behind all this prelidiction to foreign religious bullshytes, underlies racism and inferiority complex of the worst kind.

If Nigerian students need to be closer to god , and to help them pass their exams and whatnots, then , first, we still don't understand what education is about, and secondly, we are tacitly admitting that our cranial dexterity is not at par with the rest of humanity.
That is a falsehood that we must demystify eliminate.


I went to university abroad, and didn't see religious sects and denominations taking more space than Faculties on campus. I didn't see lecturers and professors hawking ancient middle east bullshytes as truths, rather than of promoting and disseminating rational thinking.

So, sincerely, whenever I visit a Nigerian University campus and see religious sects trying to outdo each other, I wonder in amazement. I realize that something is wrong here, there is something insidious and pernicious going on here.
I always ask myself " Who did this to us " ?

Why are we still holding on to this heavy pot of lead that we were swindled into accepting?

I share your sentiments and that reminds me of what my pastor said. He said God gave us a brain so that our prayer requests can be reduced

.1. If we fix our health care system we would not need to pray or jump from one prophet or spiritualist for deliverance
2. If we deal with issues of sentimentalism, tribalism, nepotism we will have responsible leaders. Tell me whether first world countries have to pray and fast for good leaders or for Nepa to bring light


nigeria is nigerias problem and only nigerians can solve it if we take away illiteracy, blind superstition and all. My dear if you said this here they will label you a wizard or someone from the occult and you need deliverance


Infact when some people say you need deliverance I also say you need deliverance of the brain and everything closes there



Africa has not yet emancipated themselves from mental slavery that is why they will keep praying for Nigerian refineries to automatically work in a miraculous manner while some political touts go and sabotage the refineries so that oil bloc merchants and politicians will not go out of business

plaetton:
Funny, sad, but bingo!, there you go.
Why do black people need to get closer to god more than any other race?
Why do black people always need god to support them with bailouts in passing exams?
What happened to learning and knowing what t was learnt, practicing what was learnt ?

This dovetails with issue being discussed on this thread. Pls visit this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/2355917/africa-foreign-religions-cultural-genocide

Why are we socially engineered to feel inferior, to feel that we cannot discern and deal with reality on own, to perpetually be beholden to and reliant upon wishy washy mythical worldviews for which t even the originators have long since abandoned?

A lady of African descent once approached me on a subway train full of people to preach to me. I was so infuriated, but I kept my Cool. After she finished her blah blah blah, I gently asked to look around the train, and tell me why she thinks that the black man in the train was the only one who needed god and the godspell more than all Caucasians and other races in the train. I asked her why she did not approach the white people in the train to preach to them. I asked her whether she thinks that a black man is an inferior creature who is lost and needs spiritual bailouts more than the rest. I told her that she was condescending and insulting me by preach to me the crap that she dared not preach to the white people on the same train.
Behind all this prelidiction to foreign religious bullshytes underlies racism and inferiority complex of the worst kind.

If Nigerian students need to be closer to god , and to help them pass their exams, then , first, we still don't what education is about, and secondly, we are tacitly admitting that our cranial dexterity is not at par with the rest of humanity.
That is a falsehood that we must eliminate.


I went to university abroad, and didn't see religious sects and denominations taking more space than Faculties on campus. I didn't see lecturers and professors hawking ancient middle east bullshytes as truths, rather than of promoting and disseminating rational thinking.

So, sincerely, whenever I visit a Nigerian University campus and see religious sects trying to outdo each other, I wonder in amazement. I realize that something is wrong here, there is something insidious and pernicious going on here.
I always ask myself " Who did this to us " ?

Why are we still holding on to this heavy pot of lead that we were swindled into accepting?

I agree with OP. It seems to be getting worse. youths are just anti knowledge nowadays. even with the internet

Someone would make erroneous statements online, still argue blindly when he can simply google the right answer.

I remembered when I was growing up my dad used to buy 2 newspapers per day and I made sure I read it. I first started with Sports, later I went to politics. I realized from Primary school that you would "shine" if you are knowledgeable. I would go into newspapers and textbooks to read some information I am sure my classmates wouldn't have heard before just to "shine" in School. That way it became a competition between ouin primary school.

One day in Primary 3, My classmate told me Australia is in Asia and I "shamed" him, From that day we started a competition in Primary School before primary 5, Like 8 of us knew all the countries of the world and their capital. Later we stepped it up to countries and Presidents, We later stepped it up to everyone studying encyclopedia, we later stepped it to having a current affairs competition organised by we the students, the winner would set questions for the next round.

We took it to High school and still continued with the competition, But nowadays especially with so much entertainment around, youths now don't even want to bother with anything educational.

In my time, the surest way to get a babe and be popular in school was to be a member of the school quiz, JET or debate team

nowadays Its always latest dance steps, music, clothes etc

There are still some Nigerian products who are very good and excel but their percentage to the total are reducing very quick

raumdeuter:
I agree with OP. It seems to be getting worse. youths are just anti knowledge nowadays. even with the internet

Someone would make erroneous statements online, still argue blindly when he can simply google the right answer.

I remembered when I was growing up my dad used to buy 2 newspapers per day and I made sure I read it. I first started with Sports, later I went to politics. I realized from Primary school that you would "shine" if you are knowledgeable. I would go into newspapers and textbooks to read some information I am sure my classmates wouldn't have heard before to shine in School. That way it became a competition between us in primary school.

One day in Primary 3, My classmate told me Australia is in Asia and I "shamed" him, From that day we started a competition in Primary School before primary 5, Like 8 of us knew all the countries of the world and their capital. Later we stepped it up to countries and Presidents, We later stepped it up to everyone studying encyclopedia, we later stepped it to having a current affairs competition organised by we the students, the winner would set questions for the next round.

We took it to High school and still continued with the competition, But nowadays especially with so much entertainment around, youths now don't even want to bother with anything educational.

In my time, the surest way to get a babe and be popular in school was to be a member of the school quiz, JET or debate team
nowadays Its always latest dance steps, music, clothes etc

There are still some Nigerian products who are very good and excel but their percentage to the total are reducing very quick

So so true. Which mouth would an olodo boy use to toast a babe? Lol, his own is finished.
Nigerian babes that would dump you if you repeated a class, lol.
It's not as if we did not know about the latest dance steps then, but there were priorities.
I still think our teachers should have done more though, some of us just braced through school by cramming.

Stillfire:
So so true. Which mouth would an olodo boy use to toast a babe? Lol, his own is finished.
Nigerian babes that would dump you if you repeated a class, lol.
It's not as if we did not know about the latest dance steps then, but there were priorities.
I still think our teachers should have done more though, some of us just braced through school by cramming.

Those days once we go to one school and win a quiz or debate, you are guaranteed at least 1 or 2 babes because all the girl(brilliant ones) would be flocking round you. Highlight of the week is when the principal calls your name out as one who represented the school and won a prize.

Do they still do inter school quiz and debates nowadays. I remember that time of Pronto Brain match that was on National Radio.. Now na danceathon and Big brother.

The parents are to blame because child education begins from home

plaetton:
The quality of education is poor because we spend more time learning and regurgitating middle east myths than in practical science and mathematics.
Students spend more time in churches and mosques than in libraries.

How many religious denominations did you have in your university campus?,. And what exactly was their business there?.

What a ridiculous statement.
Seems like you are focusing only on tertiary institutions. Even at that, uni students spend more time partying than in church, so why blame religion.

buggaboo:
What a ridiculous statement.
Seems like you are focusing only on tertiary institutions. Even at that, uni students spend more time partying than in church, so why blame religion.

No sir.
Primary and secondary schools are even worse.
I think I am in a better position judge this. I did both primary and secondary in two different societies, so it was very easy to see the differences and recognise where Nigerian society errs.
In Nigerian primary school, I vividly remember being taught every single day, and expected to remember, cram and regurgitate about Paul's journey to Damascus, his first and second missionary journeys, and so many other useless garbage.

Imagine stuffiing a young child's mind with this much useless crap.

While still in primary school, I transited to a different society, where, in primary school, we were encouraged to do science projects, study the solar system, take and study daily weather informations like Temperature, atmospheric pressure, wind speed, locate, identify and track different types of clouds.

So, while my brethren in Nigeria were craming the Acts of the Apostles, I was studying climatic zones and bird migration in one of the nations that actually brought middle east religion to our shores.
Isn't that an irony, a sad one at that?

So, tell me friend, which of these two societies is more likely to progress materially and socially, the society that encourages its young citizens to think, explore and rationally embrace reality, or the one that wickedly yolks and encumbers the minds of her young citizens with meaningless religious Bullshytes from the ancient middle east?

If the acts of the Apostles had any value, Why do you think that those that sold it to us never allow it in their public educational system?
This is an important question that begs for an answer.

So, yes. I reiterate, The Slaveship Jesus is our captor. Our society is a prisoner in this Slaveship.

plaetton:
No sir.
Primary and secondary schools are even worse.
I think I am in a better position judge this. I did both primary and secondary in two different societies, so it was very easy to see the differences and recognise where Nigerian society errs.
In Nigerian primary school, I vividly remember being taught every single day, and expected to remember, cram and regurgitate about Paul's journey to Damascus, his first and second missionary journeys, and so many other useless garbage.

Imagine stuffiing a young child's mind with this much useless crap.

While still in primary school, I transited to a different society, where, in primary school, we were encouraged to do science projects, study the solar system, take and study daily weather informations like Temperature, atmospheric pressure, wind speed, locate, identify and track different types of clouds.

So, while my brethren in Nigeria were craming the Acts of the Apostles, I was studying climatic zones and bird migration in one of the nations that actually brought middle east religion to our shores.
Isn't that an irony, a sad one at that?

So, tell me friend, which of these two societies is more likely to progress materially and socially, the society that encourages its young citizens to think, explore and rationally embrace reality, or the one that wickedly yolks and encumbers the minds of her young citizens with meaningless religious Bullshytes from the ancient middle east?

If the acts of the Apostles had any value, Why do you think that those that sold it to us never allow it in their public educational system?
This is an important question that begs for an answer.

So, yes. I reiterate, The Slaveship Jesus is our captor. Our society is a prisoner in this Slaveship.

Oga plaetton, did you school in a monastry in Nigeria?
In the average Nigerian school religious studies is just one out of about 12 subjects.

I hope you went to church today.

I am surprised that a thread as thought-provoking as this is yet to make front page.

Lalasticlala, Ishilove don't you guys think this is front page worthy? We should all contribute our part towards building a Nigeria of our dreams and a good way to start is the education of our youths by promoting threads that stimulate deep-thinking.

This thread is introspective and serves as a call-back to parents and youths alike. There is a dearth in the intellectual quality of our youths and something has to be urgently done about it. I think our educational system needs to be overhauled and our learning processes improved upon

SAMBARRY:
Greatest nigerian students
articulate nigerian students
answer na
your hand work

On the contrary I think the student's response even though technically wrong still shows deep thinking. He could process the question and analyse it but just didn't get the correct answer where you get into bacteria and micro-organisms being the causative agents of food poisoning.

The teacher was rather harsh. Rather than insulting the boy she could have set it up as a debate in the next class. You'd be surprised at how many other class mates share the same view with the boy. Putting it up for discussion in class would have been an excellent opportunity to further explain and guide the students understanding through practical excersises like food spoilage etc. Even the juju aspect could have been explained as being concentrated sources of germs or opium from poisonous plants... Something to get the students thinking critically with a problem solving mindset.

Also the use of local parlance juju, babalawo etc by the student validates the need for learning to be done in local Nigerian languages that students can easily identify with like the French, Chinese,Indians etc have in their respective countries