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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:06pm On Jun 03, 2015
coogar:
the king that has never won a golden boot or lead his team to any major trophy. grin cheesy

if rooney was from denmark, he would be driving trucks in copenhagen grin
Haba naa
U harsh oo
Don't worry, King Rooney would do us proud by Scoring 30+ goals next season and make up for all he's lost gringrin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:11pm On Jun 03, 2015
Rooney scored as a CF against:

Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
Tottenhma-------1 goal

8 goals as a centre forward but Ekwe Sample will always lie to us.

How can 8 become 4?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:12pm On Jun 03, 2015
elampiro:
They are wrong, as they always do. Rooney had 8 matches as a CF. iLISTED THEM ALL
After the htrick he went 1,000 matches without a goal. grin
rooney played 14 games as CF & scored 4 goals. 2 of the best football sites had it so, where's your own link that proves otherwise?

Welbeck won the FA Cup. This boosted his rating very high. Whoscored award extra marks to triumphant teams and their players. grin
welbeck didn't play in the FA cup final or semis...

stop lying!

That's a lie. Red card has little negative mark. Rooney had a red card and still got average marking marking in the match. He didnt have below. Fabregas got a red card and till made whoscored bext XI. Phil Jones had many yellow cards, yet still made EPL best XI.
rooney wasn't a CF when he got his red card - i fail to see how that could have affected his rating in the CF role.

Jones >>>> Smalling
jones & smalling played in one position throughout the season. smalling bagged a red, jones didn't. that's the only difference between them this season.

Rooney greater than all these players.

Hazard 7.96 1st in the EPL
Rooney 7.28
Kane 7.28
Sterling 7.27
Young 7.23
Oscar 7.20
RVP 7.11
Benteke 7.08
Ramsey 7.07
etc,etc


I cant even see Welbeck in the first 100. Rooney is 27 in EPL, 3rd in Manchester United.
in the CF role,
welbeck >>>>>> rooney

elampiro:
Rooney scored as a CF against:
Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
Tottenhma-------1 goal
8 goals as a centre forward but Ekwe Sample will always lie to us.
How can 8 become 4?
why do you always lie?
then you listed the sunderland game when the premier league website confirmed rooney played in the hole behind falcao. how's rooney a CF when he was in the hole?

2 goals against sunderland should not be in your calculation. rooney scored 4 in 14, welbeck scored 5 in 14. rooney has 1 away goal in the league since march last year. cheesy

welbeck is rooney's father. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:20pm On Jun 03, 2015
coogar:
rooney played 14 games as CF & scored 4 goals. 2 of the best football sites had it so, where's your own link that proves otherwise?
Lies from the pit of hell. Rooney scored 8 goals from 16 CF games. He had 3 Assists.

coogar:
rooney played 14 games as CF & scored 4 goals. 2 of the best football sites had it so, where's your own link that proves otherwise?



welbeck didn't play in the FA cup final or semis...

stop lying!



rooney wasn't a CF when he got his red card - i fail to see how that could have affected his rating in the CF role.
It doesnt matter where Rooney played and got his red card. As long as he got a red card it affected his over all season rating.

Rooney beats Welbeck in overall season rating by the zillion mark.

coogar:
jones & smalling played in one position throughout the season. smalling bagged a red, jones didn't. that's the only difference between them this season.
Red card is just -1 in one match. Yellow card is -0.5. I see no difference here. I am sure Jones even had more cards sef.

coogar:
in the CF role,
welbeck >>>>>> rooney
Rooney 8 goals from CF
Welbeck 4 goals.

Rooney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welbeck. In all department of the game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:27pm On Jun 03, 2015
coogar:
why do you always lie?
then you listed the sunderland game when the premier league website confirmed rooney played in the hole behind falcao. how's rooney a CF when he was in the hole?

2 goals against sunderland should not be in your calculation. rooney scored 4 in 14, welbeck scored 5 in 14. rooney has 1 away goal in the league since march last year. cheesy

welbeck is rooney's father. grin
Lies. Premier League website copy opta's presumed formation crafted out from the starting eleven. This was how they always mislead people ad I have exposed them here times without number.

Against Sunderland, Rooney was a CF. You remember when you lied that Falcao left immediately he won the penalty until I brought the time he left. Rooney scored two goals as a CF. Rooney has 8 goals as a CF.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:29pm On Jun 03, 2015
grin grin Coogar and Elampiro are at it again. U guys are a marriage made in heaven. Both of u cant go 3 days on dis thread without arguing sha.......
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:30pm On Jun 03, 2015
elampiro:
Lies from the pit of hell. Rooney scored 8 goals from 16 CF games. He had 3 Assists.
it is 4 in 14.

rooney fired blanks as a CF against....
sunderland(away)
burnley(away)
newcastle(away)
liverpool(away)
man city
everton(away)
palace(away)
hull(away)

chaiiiii, rooney is a liability. grin

It doesnt matter where Rooney played and got his red card. As long as he got a red card it affected his over all season rating.
but we are not talking about his overall rating. we are looking at the respective ratings in the CF position. if rooney didn't bag the red in the CF position then his rating with welbeck in the CF position can be compared without excuses.

where's your logic?

Rooney beats Welbeck in overall season rating by the zillion mark.
but he didn't beat welbeck as a CF....look at their ratings in the CF position.

Red card is just -1 in one match. Yellow card is -0.5. I see no difference here. I am sure Jones even had more cards sef.
that -1 could be the 0.15 difference over the season.


Rooney 8 goals from CF
Welbeck 4 goals.

Rooney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welbeck. In all department of the game.
rooney 4 in 14
welbz 5 in 14

welbeck shytes on rooney!

elampiro:
Lies. Premier League website copy opta's presumed formation crafted out from the starting eleven. This was how they always mislead people ad I have exposed them here times without number.
how can premier league copy opta stats when EA sports run their matches. another lie exposed!

Against Sunderland, Rooney was a CF. You remember when you lied that Falcao left immediately he won the penalty until I brought the time he left. Rooney scored two goals as a CF. Rooney has 8 goals as a CF.
you are a tool!
falcao won the penalty, rooney scored from it. the difference between when the goal was scored & when falcao went off was the period it took to send brown off(sunderland were protesting against the foul & the mistake the ref made sending the wrong man off), the time rooney wasted in taking the penalty, restart the game. during this period, no football action was recorded.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:35pm On Jun 03, 2015
SMalling's red card is even a lame excuse.

Smalling 1 red card, 1 yellow card.

Jones 3 yellow cards.


These cancels each other out.

Jones beat Smalling in tackles, Interceptions and Clearances. Yori Yori!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 11:41pm On Jun 03, 2015
elampiro:
Nothing like that. I have made my last post on the subject.
lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:42pm On Jun 03, 2015
coogar:
it is 4 in 14.

rooney fired blanks as a CF against....
sunderland(away)
burnley(away)
newcastle(away)
liverpool(away)
man city
everton(away)
palace(away)
hull(away)

chaiiiii, rooney is a liability. grin



but we are not talking about his overall rating. we are looking at the respective ratings in the CF position. if rooney didn't bag the red in the CF position then his rating with welbeck in the CF position can be compared without excuses.

where's your logic?



but he didn't beat welbeck as a CF....look at their ratings in the CF position.



that -1 could be the 0.15 difference over the season.




rooney 4 in 14
welbz 5 in 14

welbeck shytes on rooney!



how can premier league copy opta stats when EA sports run their matches. another lie exposed!



you are a tool!
falcao won the penalty, rooney scored from it. the difference between when the goal was scored & when falcao went off was the period it took to send brown off(sunderland were protesting against the foul & the mistake the ref made sending the wrong man off), the time rooney wasted in taking the penalty, restart the game. during this period, no football action was recorded.
1. Rooney CF 8 goals in 16 matches. Welbeck 4 goals in 14. grin
.
Rooney scored as a CF against:
Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
Tottenhma-------1 goal

2. Smalling red card was just -1. Jones yellow cards= -1.5

These is even insignificant considering they played over 20 matches each. -1.5 mark over twenty matches = less than 0.1 mark.

Look for another excuse.

3. I f I listed the matches Welbeck fired blank, the page will be begging me.... cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:47pm On Jun 03, 2015
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:49pm On Jun 03, 2015
elampiro:
1. Rooney CF 8 goals in 16 matches. Welbeck 4 goals in 14. grin
.
Rooney scored as a CF against:
Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
Tottenhma-------1 goal
against QPR & swansea, rooney was an SS. he had a strike partner. welbeck was a lone striker in all the matches he played as a CF. how can you call rooney a CF when he had a partner & a CF when he was a lone striker?

elampawa, you are a fraud!

2. Smalling red card was just -1. Jones yellow cards= -1.5


These is even insignificant considering they played over 20 matches each. -1.5 mark over twenty matches = less 0.1
so smalling didn't bag yellow cards here & there? are you high on skunk?

Look for another excuse.

3. I f I listed the matches Welbeck fired blank, the page will be begging me....... cheesy
no page can beg you!
the most damning stat is that king rooney hasn't scored an away goal in the league for the past 15 months. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:58pm On Jun 03, 2015
coogar:
against QPR & swansea, rooney was an SS. he had a strike partner. welbeck was a lone striker in all the matches he played as a CF. how can you call rooney a CF when he had a partner & a CF when he was a lone striker?

elampawa, you are a fraud
Which kind talk be this? Did Van Gaal list who was the SS among his two strikers? Gaal played two CFs.

Rooney played only 8 matches as a lone striker. So what excatly does your 14 matches stand for?

coogar:
so smalling didn't bag yellow cards here & there? are you high on skunk?
no page can beg you!
the most damning stat is that king rooney hasn't scored an away goal in the league for the past 15 months. grin
Smalling had only 1 yellow card all season. Jones had 3 yellow cards.

Apart from Rojo who had 6 yellow cards, our defenders did well in terms of discipline.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:02am On Jun 04, 2015
elampiro:
Which kind talk be this? Did Van Gaal list who was the SS among his two strikers?

Rooney played only 8 matches as a lone striker. So what excatly does your 14 matches stand for?
there was a strike partner!
hernandez played against swansea
RVP played against burnley


Smalling had only 1 yellow card all season. Jones had 3 yellow cards.
smalling has 2 yellow cards that became 1 red. 2 yellow, 1 red

Apart from Rojo who had 6 yellow cards, our defenders did well in terms of discipline.
this information is irrelevant!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:06am On Jun 04, 2015
coogar:
there was a strike partner!
hernandez played against swansea
RVP played against burnley
Okay, can you list the 14 matches you said Rooney played as a centre forward? Let's know the matches you are referring to.

You are confusing yourself here. When you started the argument, you weren't referring to a lone striker. Which line do you want to tow now?

coogar:
smalling has 2 yellow cards that became 1 red. 2 yellow, 1 red

this information is irrelevant!
Whoscored treats them as two yellow cards. -0.5 and -.05. He had 3 yellows which is -1.5

Jones is -1.5 too.

At them end, these figures matter not. It will only result in less that -0.01. So what's the use of it?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:15am On Jun 04, 2015
elampiro:
Okay, can you list the 14 matches you said Rooney played as a centre forward? Let's know the matches you are referring to.
i shouldn't be doing your job for you.
you know those games - add up his league games and the FA cup.

You are confusing yourself here. When you started the argument, you weren't referring to a lone striker. Which line do you want to tow now?
where did welbeck play as a CF? did he use the help of a strike partner in any of the games he started as a 9? if rooney & hernandez started upfront together, which of them is the 9?

Whoscored treats them as two yellow cards. -0.5 and -.05. He had 3 yellows which is -1.5
he was sent off!
he got 2 yellows & a red. it would be treated as 3 different offences, the red would have a bigger impact on his numbers.

Jones is -1.5 too.

At them end, these figures matter not. It will only result in less that -0.01. So what's the use of it?
the difference would be between smalling's average in the other games he played AND the one where he bagged the red.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:39am On Jun 04, 2015
coogar:
i shouldn't be doing your job for you.
you know those games - add up his league games and the FA cup.
.
Rooney only played 8 games as a lone striker in all competitions. Not 14 games.

As a centre forward, he played about 16 games and scored 8.
Rooney scored as a CF against:
Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
Tottenhma-------1 goal FA CUP

Sunderland ---2
coogar:
where did welbeck play as a CF? did he use the help of a strike partner in any of the games he started as a 9? if rooney & hernandez started upfront together, which of them is the 9?
Is playing as two forwards now an advantage after you told us two strikers is a disadvantage as the goals are shared?


coogar:
he was sent off!
he got 2 yellows & a red. it would be treated as 3 different offences, the red would have a bigger impact on his numbers.
the difference would be between smalling's average in the other games he played AND the one where he bagged the red.
No, it's counted as two yellows. If you count it that way, it will now be marked heavier than a straight red card.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:42am On Jun 04, 2015
coogar:
the difference would be between smalling's average in the other games he played AND the one where he bagged the red.
This is not how it's worked out. It's cumulative average match day after match day all season. Dont you follow it? Phil Jones was on top from almost the beginning of the season to the end. It was only Di Maria and Herrera who briefly took over and then fell back.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 7:29am On Jun 04, 2015
coogar:
yes o!
florentino perez is addicted to winning the UCL. benitez did it for liverpool, he can do it for madrid......but i am worried for their league campaign.
Nah, I don't believe he can do it for madrid
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 7:29am On Jun 04, 2015
suxxman:
Yes!!
Alright thanks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 8:33am On Jun 04, 2015
chrisley024:
We seriously need a destroyer in our midfield. We should get Schneiderlin
Do you mean "destroyer" literally... Cattermole comes to mind - he is the direct descendant of Keano grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:39am On Jun 04, 2015
RuuDie:
Do you mean "destroyer" literally... Cattermole comes to mind - he is the direct descendant of Keano grin
grin not literally. A destroyer also decent in ball possession.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:14am On Jun 04, 2015
dopeJemi:
Nah, I don't believe he can do it for madrid
Why are the fans sleeping on Rafa ?
He is a very good coach and he won the la liga with valencia isn't that the same feat that has catapulted Simeone to the elite class ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 9:53am On Jun 04, 2015
Andreas Pereira came on at halftime to virtually transform the game for brazil. One assist for the equaliser and a penalty as the winner.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 10:51am On Jun 04, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Why are the fans sleeping on Rafa ?
He is a very good coach and he won the la liga with valencia isn't that the same feat that has catapulted Simeone to the elite class ?
Never said he wasn't a good coach, I just don't see him taking madrid anywhere
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 11:57am On Jun 04, 2015
chrisley024:
grin not literally. A destroyer also decent in ball possession.
Asking for too much are we!!? I don't care if my "destroyer" cannot kick a ball to save his life... my only requirement is a 'ferocious' tackle - winning the ball or not is not even a concern!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:10pm On Jun 04, 2015
lol... die hard ninjas... how una dey?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:11pm On Jun 04, 2015
RuuDie:
Asking for too much are we!!? I don't care if my "destroyer" cannot kick a ball to save his life... my only requirement is a 'ferocious' tackle - winning the ball or not is not even a concern!
translation : one red card every 3 games!!! cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 2:37pm On Jun 04, 2015
Hahahahahahahaha! Lee Catermole is a deadly 'destroyer'!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:03pm On Jun 04, 2015
failed £110m bid for Bale & Varane!?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:30pm On Jun 04, 2015
RuuDie:
Asking for too much are we!!? I don't care if my "destroyer" cannot kick a ball to save his life... my only requirement is a 'ferocious' tackle - winning the ball or not is not even a concern!
haha grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:31pm On Jun 04, 2015
SailorXY:
failed £110m bid for Bale & Varane!?
We don't need another young defender
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